Atheist Philosopher Dilemma: if God exist, he is Evil!

God created everything, he also created satan. We blame satan for being evil,
however, if God created him then God created evil too!. Why judge us for something
he created? The atheist philosopher asked me.
I asked him what made him refute the existence of God. He said it was his past, he
would work with Hiv infected mothers to prevent the transmission of the virus to the
baby. However, some of those mothers were faithful mothers. It was the husband
who was unfaithful and transmitted the virus to them. The children were as well
innocent. He saw them die, some had red soared mouths from the virus. All this
happened while the bible says God is neither fast neither slow to act. He is that, but
he could see these people dying. So the God had to be fake. It had to be a myth.
He went on to say the creation story was a myth. Man has always been selfish, he
uses everthing to benefit himself. He objectifies everything. Thus he created the
creation myth so as all creation is objectified so as he can do with it as he pleases.
He accomplishes the same by putting dominion in himself by the creation myth.
Make everything look like it does not think or feel pain while for centuries trees have
cried for being cut down. All living things an animals.
This position has sent countless people to the conclusion that God is not a loving
God, he is evil. All atheist and philosophers in analyzing God, have used their
limited minds to use rationality and logic based on fraud assumptions to prove he
does not exist or if he does, he is evil. I do not cite verses to atheist, I argue with
them in their own logic to see if it makes sense to themselves. Thus I told this
atheist to assume am atheist and we discuss his logic.
you claim God created evil, Have you ever thought before that God might exist
separate from good and evil? That these entities are not part of God? Have you
thought about it that evil existed before satan was created? I asked him.
You mean the dualism concept he laughed hard. if good and evil exist separate
from God, it means that either in the beginning the two co-existed with God or they
are bigger than God. God has to transcend good and evil he responded.
No, evil and good exist separately from God. Only God chose to embody good in
himself I answered.
He criticized that position since it meant God had choices to choose from. If he had
choices to choose from it means evil and good existed before him so as he can be
able to choose from them when he existed. Thus, having made free choice to do
good, he is not a master of good or evil, thus he has no right to control evil.
Knowing he was a philosopher I had to use his philosophy knowledge to make him
get it. In a certain branch of philosophy, everything exist as physical things, and as
just forms, conceptual forms. Thus a spoon exist as a spoon you see, but also as a

word, which has other words describing what it is its concepts. For example, a knife,
exist as something iron, thin blade, sharp at the edge, with a handle somewhere.
This is called the form. The real knife is called the substance. Thus things exist
twice, as a form and as a substance. The form can be made to actualize. The image
I have created in your mind is the form, thus the knife exist there too. With this
knowledge, I set out to make the atheist philosopher to grasp something profound.
I set out by giving him an analogy. consider the first thinking being that existed. At
the point of his emergency, he had words in his head. Among them were the words
good and bad right I asked him.
Yes He responded. every word has its conceptual form, so if the first being had
these words, then the concept that make them up were with him too. The
conceptual thing of evil was with him too, thus he co-existed with them he argued.
No, what the first being had was knowledge of these two words. He knew the word
good, he knew the word evil. He had knowledge of the concepts that make them up.
Having knowledge of a word and the concept that make them up, does that make
you that word? I asked him to which bound by logic, he responded correctly that it
does not make you that word.
Then we put three combs on the bed we were sitting on, since we were in a girls
room. The first comb represented God, the second comb represented the word good
and its concepts, the third comb represented evil and its concepts.
We thus logically agreed that the first being was neither those two words, he was a
separate entity from those two words. We had also agreed that the only thing the
first being had was the knowledge of the words and the concepts that make them
up.
Remember then that since he is the first being to exist with words, the word good
or evil did not exist before him. His emergency brought these two words to
existence too. However, they only existed as words and concepts and not reality.
That is they existed as forms only and not substance. Yes? I asked him to see if we
are flowing together in logic to which he agreed too.
Now, lets take the first being choses between the two words, and he choose to
actualize the word good. Thus he takes the word good from its existence as a form
and he does an act that is good thus brings good to exist as a substance cant he
thus say that all good things come from him? I asked.
He laughed and said no. He said I was jumping stages in thought and what not, so I
stopped since leaving that line of thought was not doing any harm to our logic.
Fine, remember that he has chosen the word good to actualize it, remember by this
time evil does not exists as a substance yet. Thus the first being has chosen to
emboldy the concepts of good. Thus he uses the powers he has to actualize the

good only. It is only the good now that has come to existence. Yes? to which he
agreed too.
This thus defeats your argument that for him to make a choice, the things had to
exist before him or else they coexisted. Your logic was fraud. There was a scenario
in which the two evil and good would come to existence only at his emergencey.
While they come to exist at his emergency, he is neither them nor are they existing
too. He only has knowledge of them. I said.
now, lets assume the first being wants to create someone resembling himself. TO
be true to himself, he thus can only create a being that also has knowledge of the
word good and evil right? I asked him. At this juncture, we put a paper on the bed
to represent the created being. While the comb of good was put together with the
comb representing the first being.
If the being creates another being, the second being does not have free will like he
had. His path is already determined. Just as a certain philosopher said. If God is,
then we are not free, or else if we are free then God is not. Do you get what I am
saying? He asked. I responded that I totally get him.
Yes God told the being that he created that him as his creator, he had chosen to
embody good, and if he chooses to actualize evil, he will die. If he choose to
actualize good, He will live. Knowing those two paths, the created being had a
choice to choose between the two conceptual words on which concept to actualize.
Thus he also had free will to choose and fully knowing the consequences of
actualization of either I said.
now, lets assume the created being choose to actualize the word evil and its
concept. It is him who brings it to existence right? Remember that up to now, evil
did not exist, it is only the knowledge of the word evil and its concepts that did. I
asked him to which he agreed.
Thus, would it be right to blame the first being to say he created evil? I continued
my question.
No, its the second being that creates evil, we cannot blame his actions on the first
being, he had a will to choose from the two. He responded.
There you have it. God, satan, evil, good, and how they are positioned! Do not ever
blame God again for the evil you see. He has nothing to do with it, neither did he
create it by creating satan. Go yee and tell all your other atheist. I concluded.
He confessed, he loved our conversation and that it was his first time to be
engaged as thus. He concluded by telling the girls outside that he waits the time My
God will go bow befor him. The girl just insulted him. Bet he loved that.Rekindled his
thought that religious people fear criticisms. Hahaha.

I would have loved to also tell him about how satan is also not responsible for all the
evil in the world, that some of it, is totally created from the form in the mind of the
people too. Thus the evil of the world has never been Gods caused thingy and only
the poor in mind reach such a conclusion. They should never call themselves
philosophers. God. The author of all Good things!