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Reply of owners engineer approval sheet

Ref.No. 0937-HM-CG-00-052
Sub: Karuma HPP: Design & Drawings of Under Sluice Bulkhead Gate
1. Design Calculation NO.(C-MD-MS-001-R1)
a) General:
Comments of EIPL
(i) Design of Bye-Pass Valve has not been furnished in spite of earlier comments. It is essential
for the approval of drawings. This needs to be submitted for review.
(ii) The material 3Cr13 may be replaced with 30Cr13 in the entire design.
(iii) Only the calculation of lifting eye is given instead of the entire pulling rod. Moreover, by
providing the pulling rod according to drawing no.DD-GE-MS-016-R0, it will not be possible
to pull out the gate above the deck level with pulling rod. With the provided arrangement of
pulling rod, the legs height of the gantry crane will have to be increased up to at least 13m from
deck level to the pulley center.
Or else to avoid the above problem, it is advised to provide an automatic engaging &
disengaging type lifting beam so that the gate can be taken out from the grooves without any
problem.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Noted and revised, please refer to the revised calculation sheet.
(ii) OK, 3Cr13 has been revised to 30Cr13 in entire design.
(iii) The 2x320kN gantry crane is shared with other opening of gates in dam. If directly use
the automatic lifting beam, the pulley assembly of the lifting beam will interfere with the gate
slotconsidering the angle of wire rope of the pulley assembly in operation, so it need add
a pull rod to make the pulley assembly not enter the slot.

Pulley assembly of the 2x320kN gantry crane


The operation procedure of the bulkhead gate is described as following:
1) When the gate is not used, it is disengaged with the pull rod and locked on the upper
slot. The pull rod could be stored in equipment warehouse.

2) When the gate to be in use, first lifting the pull rod above the gate with gantry crane
and connect the pull rod with the gate lifting point, then drop the gate;

3) When the gate need lift up, first lifting the pull rod with the gate together until the
gate reach its locking location and lock the gate, then disassemble the pull rod and

put it in the equipment warehouse.

1) Drawings:
a) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-016-R0:
Comments of EIPL
(i) The comments vide para-1-a-IV above hold good for this drawing also.
(ii) In detail B, the seal compression shown as 10 mm should be replaced with 5 mm
to avoid the damage of the seal as per book" design of hydraulic gates by Paulo C.F. Erbisti.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) The reply above hold good for this drawing also.
(ii) Agree to reduce to 5mm. Please refer to the revised drawing.

b) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017,017-1 & 17-2,17-2-4:


Comments of EIPL
(i) Show side guide/guide shoe in the drawing.

(ii) Since the bearing is of roller type it requires grease nipple along with grease slot will have
to be provided. In case as stated in your reply to earlier comment, provide the copy of catalogue
in support of self greasing/lubricating bearing.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Side guide/guide shoe is already shown in the General drawing of gate leaf (No. DD-GEMS-017) as item 5, which is welded to the gate structure, so the gate structure drawing not need
show the side guide/guide shoe
(ii) Add grease hole in wheel, please refer to the revised drawings of DD-GE-MS-017-2-0 and
DD-GE-MS-017-2-1
Other reply for comments in drawings:
DD-GE-MS-017-1:
1) The dimension 95mm of item 21 has been shown in View B-B.
2) Location dimension for item 17 has been shown in the drawing, the detail molding
dimension is determined by lofting while manufacturing.
DD-GE-MS-017-2-0:
1) The characteristic of Spherical roller bearing please refer to the attached document.

c) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017-2-1,17-2-2,17-2-5,17-2-6,17-3-1,17-3-4,17-35,17-4,17-4-1 to 17-14-10,18-3 to 18-5:


Comments of EIPL
(i) These drawing are generally in order.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i)Noted.

d) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017-2-3:


Comments of EIPL
(i) Please specify the material of shield ring properly. Since specified 35 does not spell anything.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) The material of 35 steel is a kind of carbon structural steel, which is equivalent to ASTM
1035 or BS 060A35.
The performance figure is it listed as below:
Chemical composition
C 0.320.40
Si0.170.37
Mn0.500.80
S 0.035
P 0.035
Cr0.25
Ni0.25
Cu0.25
Mechanical property
Tensile Strength b (MPa)530(54)

Yield strength s (MPa)315(32)


Elongation 5 (%)20
Percentage reduction of area (%)45
Impact toughness kv (J/cm²)69(7)
Hardness197HB (without heat treatment)
National StandardGB699-1999

e) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017-3 & 17-3-3:


Comments of EIPL
(i) Please include the quantity of corner seal in the BOQ and provide its detail.
(ii) In Section C-C, provide maximum compression of 5 mm as per book "design of hydraulic
gates by paulo C.F.Erbisti.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Corner seal is a standard product by seal manufactory. Please refer to the item1 Corner Seal
in the BOQ of Drawing of No. DD-GE-MS-017-3-0 Seal Assembly, and a detail drawing of
Detail B has been added in this drawing for review.
(ii) Agree to reduce to 5mm, although we still think the value is not enough and it might cause
leakage for the manufacture and installation deviation. Please refer to the revised drawing.
Other reply for comments in drawings:
DD-GE-MS-017-3-3: Add Corner to open 90 degrees V notch bend in the revised drawing.

f) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017-5:


Comments of EIPL
(i) The width of the side guide shoe should be 30+6+6=42mm instead of 50 mm to prevent
larger swing of the gate during operation. Please check and correct.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Agree and revised, please refer to the revised drawing.

g) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-017-6:


Comments of EIPL
(i) The comments vide para-1-a-IV above hold good for this drawing.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) The reply above hold good for this drawing also.

h) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-018:


Comments of EIPL
(i) Provide the locking beam revolving horizontally with pivot to avoid any theft
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Please refer to our earlier reply about the same issue of other gates.

i) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-018-1 & 18-2:


Comments of EIPL

(i) Show the weld symbol in section A-A.


Reply by Sinohydro:
(i)Noted and revised, please refer to the revised drawing.

j) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-018-6:


Comments of EIPL
(i) The comments vide para-2-i-ix above hold good for this drawing
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) The reply above hold good for this drawing also.

Sub: Karuma HPP: Design & Drawings of Under Sluice Service Gate
1. Design Calculation NO.(C-MD-MS-001-R1)
a) General:
Comments of EIPL
(i) The material of steel shown as 3Cr13 may be replaced with 30Cr13 in the entire design.
(ii) Provide the locking beam revolving horizontally on pivot to avoid any theft. Redesign the
beam accordingly.
(iii) On page 18, please provide the calculation for 5T counter weight.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) OK, 3Cr13 has been revised to 30Cr13 in entire design.
(ii)This issue has been replied before in other gates.
(iii) The counter weight size is 165*400*800 (in mm), The density of steel is 7.85 t/m3, so the
weight of one piece of counter weight is
G=165*400*800*7.85=0.4145 t
Total 12 pieces of counter weight is 12*G=4.974t5t.
Above has been added in the revised calculation sheet, please refer to it.
2. Drawing:
b) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-019-R0:
Comments of EIPL
(v) Mark the top seal elevation and hoist platform elevation.
(vi)Other comments marked in red need to be attended.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(v) Elevations have been added in the revised drawing, please refer to them.
(vi) Noted and revised.
c) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-020:
Comments of EIPL
(vii) In table serial no. 1 & 5, it is not clear that from where the reference of the drawings has
been taken. Please mark the same clearly.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(vii) No 1 is refer to the drawing of DD-GE-MS-017-2-0 Fixed wheel assembly of UNDER
SLUICE MAINTENANCE GATE
No 5 is refer to the drawing of DD-GE-MS-017-5 Side guide device of UNDER SLUICE
MAINTENANCE GATE
d) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-020-1, 20-2-1,20-2-2, 20-2-3,20-3,21-3:
Comments of EIPL
(viii )These drawings are generally in order.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(viii) Noted.
e) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-020-2:

Comments of EIPL
(ix) In section D-D, provide maximum compression of 5 mm as per book "design of hydraulic
gates by paulo C.F. Erbisti."
Reply by Sinohydro:
(ix) Noted and revised.
f) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-021:
Comments of EIPL
(x) The comments vide para 1 a (iii) above hold good for this drawing also.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(x) Noted.
g) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-021-1 & 021-2:
Comments of EIPL
(i)Show the weld symbol in section A-A.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) Revised, please refer to the revised drawings.
h) Drawing Nos. DD-GE-MS-021-4:
Comments of EIPL
(i) In section A-A, the dimension 360mm is not matching with item no.6 mentioned in BOQ.
Please check and correct.
Reply by Sinohydro:
(i) In section A-A, the dimension 360mm is for the item No.8. The dimension of item No. 6 is
370mm. Refer to the mark in drawing.

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