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Francis Malofiy, Esq.


Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Rd. | Suite 105
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000; F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com
Attorney for Plaintiff
Glen L. Kulik, Esq. (SBN 082170)
Kulik Gottesman & Siegel LLP
15303 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1400
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
T: (310) 557-9200; F: (310) 557-0224
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Attorney for Plaintiff

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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MICHAEL SKIDMORE, as Trustee for


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Hon. R. Gary Klausner

Plaintiff,
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Case No. 15-cv-03462 RGK (AGRx)

LED ZEPPELIN; JAMES PATRICK


PAGE; ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT;
JOHN PAUL JONES; SUPER HYPE
PUBLISHING, INC.; WARNER MUSIC
GROUP CORP., Parent of
WARNER/CHAPPELL MUSIC, INC.;
ATLANTIC RECORDING
CORPORATION; RHINO
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DECLARATION OF FRANCIS
MALOFIY IN SUPPORT OF
PLAINTIFFS MOTION TO
COMPEL TRIAL TESTIMONY

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DECLARATION OF FRANCIS MALOFIY IN SUPPORT OF
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I, Francis Malofiy, declare:

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I am an attorney in the law firm of Francis Alexander, LLC, and I represent

Plaintiff Michael Skidmore, as Trustee for the Randy Craig Wolfe Trust in the above-

captioned matter. I have personal knowledge of the facts recited below, and, if called as

a witness, I could and would testify competently to the facts contained in this declaration.

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Attached to this declaration as Exhibit 1 is a true and correct copy of

subpoenas and notices to attend and testify that were served upon defense counsel.
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Attached to this declaration as Exhibit 2 is a true and correct copy of emails

exchanged between Plaintiffs counsel and defense counsel.


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Attached as Exhibit 3 is a true and correct copy of the April 25, 2016, pre-

trial conference hearing transcript.


I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America
that the foregoing is true and correct.
Executed this 17th day of May, 2016 at Burlington, Vermont.

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/s/ Francis Malofiy


Francis Malofiy

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DECLARATION OF FRANCIS MALOFIY IN SUPPORT OF
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AJ Fluehr
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Attachments:

Francis Alexander Malofiy


Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:42 PM
AJ Fluehr
Francis Alexander Malofiy
FW: Skidmore
Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to Warner-Chappell.pdf; Notice to Attend and
Testify Directed to Atlantic Recording.pdf; Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to
James Patrick Page.pdf; Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to John Paul Jones.pdf;
Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to Rhino Entertainment.pdf; Notice to Attend
and Testify Directed to Robert Anthony Plant.pdf; Notice to Attend and Testify Directed
to Super Hype Publishing.pdf; Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to Warner Music
Group Corp..pdf

From:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy
Sent:Thursday,April21,201612:34AM
To:PeterJ.Anderson<pja@pjanderson.com>;HeleneM.Freeman<hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com>
Cc:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy<francis@francisalexander.com>;AJFluehr<aj@francisalexander.com>;GlenKulik
<gkulik@kgslaw.com>
Subject:RE:Skidmore

DearPeter,

SeeattachedNoticestoAttendandTestify.

Forpurposesofschedulingwitnesses,pleasesharewithmewhetherornotMr.Page,Mr.Plant,andMr.Joneswill
appearinCourtonMay10th,2016.

PleasealsoadviseastotherestoftheNotices.

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NOTE: ADDRESS CHANGED TO SUITE 1


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With every good wish, I am,
Francis Malofiy, Esquire
Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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Francis Malofiy, Esquire


Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Rd. | Suite 1
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E: francis@francisalexander.com

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Glen L. Kulik, Esq.


Kulik Gottesman & Siegel LLP
15303 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1400
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T: (310) 557-9200; F: (310) 557-0224
E: gkulik@kgslaw.com
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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MICHAEL SKIDMORE, as Trustee for


the RANDY CRAIG WOLFE TRUST,

Hon. R. Gary Klausner


Plaintiff,

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND


TESTIFY DIRECTED TO
JAMES PATRICK PAGE

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Case No. 15-cv-03462 RGK (AGRx)

LED ZEPPELIN; JAMES PATRICK


PAGE; ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT;
JOHN PAUL JONES; SUPER HYPE
PUBLISHING, INC.; WARNER MUSIC
GROUP CORP., Parent of
WARNER/CHAPPELL MUSIC, INC.;
ATLANTIC RECORDING
CORPORATION; RHINO
ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY,

Date: May 10, 2016


Time: 9:00 a.m.
Room: 850

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND TESTIFY DIRECTED TO


JAMES PATRICK PAGE
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PLAINTIFFS NOTICE TO ATTEND AND TESTIFY DIRECTED TO JAMES PATRICK PAGE

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TO: JAMES PATRICK PAGE


Peter J. Anderson, Esquire
100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
T:(310) 260-6030
F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording
Corporation, and Rhino Entertainment Company, James Patrick Page,
Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and
John Paul Jones (collectively with John Bonham (Deceased),
professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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TO DEFENDANT JAMES PATRICK PAGE AND HIS COUNSEL OF

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RECORD:

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PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT plaintiff Michael Skidmore demands the presence of

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James Patrick Page on May 10, 2016, at Roybal Courthouse, Room 850, 255 East Temple Street,

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Los Angeles California 90012-3332 to testify in the above-captioned matter.

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DATED: April 20, 2016

FRANCIS ALEXANDER, LLC

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By

/s/ Francis Malofiy


Francis Malofiy
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
Plaintiff hereby represents that Plaintiffs Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to James
Patrick Page has been served upon counsel by email:
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
(collectively with John Bonham (Deceased), professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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Peter J. Anderson, Esquire


100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
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F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording Corporation,
and Rhino Entertainment Company; James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John
Paul Jones

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Respectfully submitted,

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Francis Alexander, LLC

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/s/ Francis Alexander Malofiy

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Francis Alexander Malofiy, Esquire


Attorney ID No.: 208494
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
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F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

/d/ April 20, 2016

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Francis Malofiy, Esquire


Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Rd. | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000; F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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Glen L. Kulik, Esq.


Kulik Gottesman & Siegel LLP
15303 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1400
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
T: (310) 557-9200; F: (310) 557-0224
E: gkulik@kgslaw.com
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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MICHAEL SKIDMORE, as Trustee for


the RANDY CRAIG WOLFE TRUST,

Hon. R. Gary Klausner


Plaintiff,

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND


TESTIFY DIRECTED TO
JOHN PAUL JONES

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Case No. 15-cv-03462 RGK (AGRx)

LED ZEPPELIN; JAMES PATRICK


PAGE; ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT;
JOHN PAUL JONES; SUPER HYPE
PUBLISHING, INC.; WARNER MUSIC
GROUP CORP., Parent of
WARNER/CHAPPELL MUSIC, INC.;
ATLANTIC RECORDING
CORPORATION; RHINO
ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY,

Date: May 10, 2016


Time: 9:00 a.m.
Room: 850

Defendants.

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND TESTIFY DIRECTED TO


JOHN PAUL JONES
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PLAINTIFFS NOTICE TO ATTEND AND TESTIFY DIRECTED TO JOHN PAUL JONES

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TO: JOHN PAUL JONES


Peter J. Anderson, Esquire
100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
T:(310) 260-6030
F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording
Corporation, and Rhino Entertainment Company, James Patrick Page,
Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and
John Paul Jones (collectively with John Bonham (Deceased),
professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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TO DEFENDANT JOHN PAUL JONES AND HIS COUNSEL OF RECORD:

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PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT plaintiff Michael Skidmore demands the presence of

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John Paul Jones on May 10, 2016, at Roybal Courthouse, Room 850, 255 East Temple Street, Los

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Angeles California 90012-3332 to testify in the above-captioned matter.

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DATED: April 20, 2016

FRANCIS ALEXANDER, LLC

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/s/ Francis Malofiy


Francis Malofiy
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
Plaintiff hereby represents that Plaintiffs Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to John
Paul Jones has been served upon counsel by email:
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
(collectively with John Bonham (Deceased), professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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Peter J. Anderson, Esquire


100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
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F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording Corporation,
and Rhino Entertainment Company; James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John
Paul Jones

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Respectfully submitted,

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/s/ Francis Alexander Malofiy

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Francis Alexander Malofiy, Esquire


Attorney ID No.: 208494
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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Francis Malofiy, Esquire


Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Rd. | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000; F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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Glen L. Kulik, Esq.


Kulik Gottesman & Siegel LLP
15303 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1400
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
T: (310) 557-9200; F: (310) 557-0224
E: gkulik@kgslaw.com
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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MICHAEL SKIDMORE, as Trustee for


the RANDY CRAIG WOLFE TRUST,

Hon. R. Gary Klausner


Plaintiff,

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND


TESTIFY DIRECTED TO
ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT

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Case No. 15-cv-03462 RGK (AGRx)

LED ZEPPELIN; JAMES PATRICK


PAGE; ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT;
JOHN PAUL JONES; SUPER HYPE
PUBLISHING, INC.; WARNER MUSIC
GROUP CORP., Parent of
WARNER/CHAPPELL MUSIC, INC.;
ATLANTIC RECORDING
CORPORATION; RHINO
ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY,

Date: May 10, 2016


Time: 9:00 a.m.
Room: 850

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NOTICE TO ATTEND AND TESTIFY DIRECTED TO


ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT
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TO: ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT


Peter J. Anderson, Esquire
100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
T:(310) 260-6030
F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording
Corporation, and Rhino Entertainment Company, James Patrick Page,
Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and
John Paul Jones (collectively with John Bonham (Deceased),
professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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RECORD:

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PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT plaintiff Michael Skidmore demands the presence of

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Robert Anthony Plant on May 10, 2016, at Roybal Courthouse, Room 850, 255 East Temple Street,

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Los Angeles California 90012-3332 to testify in the above-captioned matter.

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DATED: April 20, 2016

FRANCIS ALEXANDER, LLC

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/s/ Francis Malofiy


Francis Malofiy
Attorneys for Plaintiff

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
Plaintiff hereby represents that Plaintiffs Notice to Attend and Testify Directed to Robert
Anthony Plant has been served upon counsel by email:
Helene Freeman, Esquire
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10103-0084
T: (212) 841-0547
F: (212) 262-5152
E: hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com
Attorneys for Defendants James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John Paul Jones
(collectively with John Bonham (Deceased), professionally known as Led Zeppelin)

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Peter J. Anderson, Esquire


100 Wilshire Blvd. | Suite 2010
Santa Monica, CA 90401
T:(310) 260-6030
F: (310) 260-6040
E: pja@pjanderson.com
Attorney for Defendants Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., Atlantic Recording Corporation,
and Rhino Entertainment Company; James Patrick Page, Robert Anthony Plant, and John
Paul Jones

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Respectfully submitted,

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/s/ Francis Alexander Malofiy

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Francis Alexander Malofiy, Esquire


Attorney ID No.: 208494
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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From:PeterJ.Anderson[mailto:pja@pjanderson.com]
Sent:Friday,May06,20167:23PM
To:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy<francis@francisalexander.com>;HeleneM.Freeman<hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com>
Cc:AJFluehr<aj@francisalexander.com>;GlenKulik<gkulik@kgslaw.com>
Subject:RE:Skidmore

Francis:
It really is important that you not misrepresent what Helene and I have said and written, and that you
meet the courts deadlines rather than ignore them.
As Helene and I previously raised multiple times, if you wanted to use deposition testimony in lieu of
live testimony you were required to have provided marked transcripts at the 40 day meeting. You
didnt do so.
Also, even if you could cure that now, you havent done so. For example, you were required to
provide the full transcripts (not mini or newspaper-formatted versions) marked to show the testimony
you intend to offer, so that the full transcripts with our objections noted can be lodged with the court
with the required index. You cant lodge the mini versions with small type and objections squeezed
in.
I also dont understand your statement that it is nearly impossible to designate the testimony you
intend to offer in lieu of live testimony if that is so, then what did you just send us?
As to the various assertions in your e-mail, you know (for example from defendants inserts to the
April 24, 2016 filing) that youve got the facts wrong and also have no legal basis for the relief you
threaten to seek. It is sufficient to say you are incorrect, we disagree with your assertions and the
record confirms you are incorrect. As an example, only, we have previously made it clear that
Messrs. Page and Plant will attend the trial, but with them coming from England we cannot guarantee
the day they will arrive. As for Mr. Jones, he was granted summary judgment and is no longer a
defendant in the case, although we expect him to testify as a defense witness.
Best regards.
Peter.

From: Francis Alexander Malofiy [mailto:francis@francisalexander.com]


Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 11:11 PM
To: Peter J. Anderson; Helene M. Freeman
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Cc: Francis Alexander Malofiy; AJ Fluehr; Glen Kulik


Subject: RE: Skidmore

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DearPeter,
AttachedpleasefindPlaintiffsDesignations.Weintendtousethesedesignationsincludingthedepositionvideoattime
oftrial.Wewillalsobeusingdefendantsdeclarations,answers,anddiscoveryresponsesinourcaseinchief(including
butnotlimitedto:Page,Plant,andJones,thecorporatedefendants,anddismisseddefendants).
AdditionallyandespeciallynowbecauseofthetimeconstraintsofthetrialIrepeatmyselfinaskingthatforpurposes
ofschedulingwitnessesandpreparingfortrialthatyousharewithmewhetherornotMr.Page,Mr.Plant,andMr.
JoneswillappearinCourtonTuesday,June14,2016at9am.Iftheyarenottoappearonthisdateandtime,pleasetell
medefinitivelyadateandtimewhentheywillbepresentinCourtifatall.
Asyouareaware,wenoticedandsubpoenaedthesedefendantsanditisnearlyimpossibletodesignatewhatportions
oftheirtestimonywillbenecessarywithoutknowingifMr.Page,Mr.Plant,orMr.JoneswillappearinPlaintiffscasein
chief.Ithereforekindlyreiteratemyrequesttoyouastheircounseltoinformmewhetherornottheywillappearas
noticedandsubpoenaed.
Becauseyouhavefailedtoworkwithmeinregardstoschedulingthepartyopponentsfortrial,Plaintiffreservesall
rights,includingbutnotlimitedtoaskingtheCourtforanegativeinference,precludingdefendantsfromtestifyingin
defendantscaseinchief,andforadefault.Plaintiffadditionally,reservestherighttosupplementormodifythe
attacheddesignations.
Totheextentawitnessisunavailablefortimeoftrial,Plaintiffreserveshisrighttousetheirdepositiontestimonyand
video.
TotheextentyouwishtodiscussfurtherIamworkingandavailablenow.Additionally,Iwillbeintheofficeallday
tomorrow(Friday).
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With every good wish, I am,
Francis Malofiy, Esquire
Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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From:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy
Sent:Thursday,April21,201612:34AM
To:'PeterJ.Anderson'<pja@pjanderson.com>;'HeleneM.Freeman'<hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com>
Cc:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy<francis@francisalexander.com>;AJFluehr<aj@francisalexander.com>;'GlenKulik'
<gkulik@kgslaw.com>
Subject:RE:Skidmore
DearPeter,
SeeattachedNoticestoAttendandTestify.
Forpurposesofschedulingwitnesses,pleasesharewithmewhetherornotMr.Page,Mr.Plant,andMr.Joneswill
appearinCourtonMay10th,2016.
PleasealsoadviseastotherestoftheNotices.

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With every good wish, I am,
Francis Malofiy, Esquire
Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

From:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy
Sent:Thursday,April14,201611:54PM
To:'PeterJ.Anderson'<pja@pjanderson.com>;HeleneM.Freeman<hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com>
Cc:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy<francis@francisalexander.com>;AJFluehr<aj@francisalexander.com>;GlenKulik
<gkulik@kgslaw.com>
Subject:RE:Skidmore
Peter,
Tobeclear:
(1) Youarerefusingtoacceptsubpoenasonbehalfofyourclients?(Page,Plant,Jones,andthecorporate
defendantswhichyourepresent)
(2) AlthoughwedisagreewhetherornotyourclientsarewithinthesubpoenapoweroftheCourt,canyouconfirm
thatyouwillhaveyourclientsJimmyPageandRobertPlantattrialfromthestartonMay10.Asyouknow
wefullyintendtohaveJimmyPageandRobertPlanttestifyinPlaintiffscaseinchief.Becauseofschedulingof
witnessesandaddressingissueswiththeCourt,doyouforeseeanyissuewiththisschedulingofPage,Plant,and
Jones?
(3) ImnotsurewhyyouaremakinganissueregardingPage,Plant,andJonesvideodeposition,asIsharedwith
you,wefullyintendtousethefullvideodepositionstobeplayedforthejurysubjecttoyourobjectionswhich
wecandiscuss.Asyouknow,manythousandsofdollarswerespentgettinghighqualityvideodepositionsof
defendantstobeusedattrial.Obviously,ifPlantandPagefailtoappearorrefusetoappearwewillbeleft
withnochoicebuttoplaythefulldepositiontothejury.

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With every good wish, I am,
Francis Malofiy, Esquire
Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
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T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

From:PeterJ.Anderson[mailto:pja@pjanderson.com]
Sent:Thursday,April14,201610:32PM
To:FrancisAlexanderMalofiy<francis@francisalexander.com>
Cc:HeleneM.Freeman<hfreeman@phillipsnizer.com>;AJFluehr<aj@francisalexander.com>;GlenKulik
<gkulik@kgslaw.com>
Subject:RE:Skidmore

Francis:

Attached is your draft of the joint witness list, marked to show the changes.

As to presenting testimony by deposition/video in lieu of a witness appearing, you were required


under our local rules and the courts order to, for example, identify the witness and the testimony you
intended to use by providing marked copies of the deposition transcripts at the 40-day meeting. You
never did that, so you waived the right to use depositions in lieu of live testimony.

You may recall that I told you that I had marked the Ruhlman and Andes deposition testimony in the
summary judgment papers and that is what I would use for Ruhlmann and, if Andes didnt appear, for
him. However, we dont intend to call Ruhlmann and youve advised youre producing Andes.

As to subpoenas, Im not sure what you mean by subpoenas for The Corporate Defendants. If you
mean Messrs. Blietz and Woerhle or any substitute PMK, Im happy to find out if theyll accept
subpoenas and will let you know. The individual defendants, of course, are outside the courts
subpoena power, so even if they were to be served that would be an idle act. But I do expect them to
appear to testify, if thats any help.

Best regards.

Peter.

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From: Francis Alexander Malofiy [mailto:francis@francisalexander.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 5:32 PM
To: Peter J. Anderson; Helene M. Freeman
Cc: Francis Alexander Malofiy; AJ Fluehr; Glen Kulik
Subject: RE: Skidmore

DearPeter,

SeeattachedJointWitnessList.

Pleaseconfirmthatyouwillacceptserviceforyourclientsforsubpoenasforthemtoappearattestifyattrial.

Mr.JimmyPage;
Mr.RobertPlant;
Mr.JohnPaulJones;and
TheCorporateDefendants

*****
With every good wish, I am,
Francis Malofiy, Esquire
Francis Alexander, LLC
280 N. Providence Road | Suite 1
Media, PA 19063
T: (215) 500-1000
F: (215) 500-1005
E: francis@francisalexander.com

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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA; MONDAY, APRIL 25, 2016
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9:08 A.M.

CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA - WESTERN DIVISION

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HONORABLE R. GARY KLAUSNER, U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE

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MICHAEL SKIDMORE, as Trustee for the: )


RANDY CRAIG WOLFE TRUST,
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CASE NO.
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THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Calling calendar item number

five, case number Civil 15-3462-RGK, Michael Skidmore vs.

Led Zeppelin, et al.

Counsel, please come forward and state your appearances.

MR. ANDERSON: Good morning, Your Honor. Peter

Anderson for defendants Warner/Chapell Music, Rhino

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Entertainment Company, Atlantic Recording Corporation,

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Mr. Plant and Mr. Page, and with me is Ms. Freeman.

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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF
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MONDAY, APRIL 25, 2016
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THE COURT: Okay.

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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, counsel.

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SHAYNA MONTGOMERY, CSR, RPR, CRR


FEDERAL OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
312 NORTH SPRING STREET
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90012
(213) 894-2665

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MR. KULIK: Good morning, Your Honor. I'm Glen


Kulik, co-counsel for the plaintiff.

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Let's talk a little bit about -- why don't you have a


seat, we'll be a few minutes.

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APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:

FOR THE PLAINTIFF:


FRANCIS ALEXANDER, LLC
BY: FRANCIS MALOFIY
Attorney at Law
280 North Providence Road, Suite 1
Media, Pennsylvania 19063
(215) 500-1000

KULIK GOTTESMAN & SIEGEL LLP


BY: GLEN L. KULIK
Attorney at Law
15303 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 1400
Sherman Oaks, California 91403
(310) 557-9200

LAW OFFICES OF PETER J. ANDERSON PC


BY: PETER J. ANDERSON
Attorney at Law
100 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 2010
Santa Monica, California 90401
(310) 260-6030

FOR THE DEFENDANTS JAMES PATRICK PAGE, ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT AND
JOHN PAUL JONES:

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decide -- or to understand what's going to happen when you come

in in a couple of weeks as far as the trial is concerned.


Let me, first of all, start by talking to you about --

well, let's get the tough part over first, the part the

attorneys never like, and that is, is we set time limits here.

I set them off witness statements that -- the joint witness

list you've submitted as to what they'll be testifying to and

what's significant and what the issues are, and we adhere by

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FOR THE DEFENDANTS WARNER/CHAPELL MUSIC, RHINO ENTERTAINMENT


COMPANY, ATLANTIC RECORDING CORPORATION, ROBERT ANTHONY PLANT
AND JAMES PATRICK PAGE:

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FOR THE PLAINTIFF:

PHILLIPS NIZER LLP


BY: HELENE M. FREEMAN
Attorney at Law
666 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10103
(212) 977-9700

Let's talk about pretrial. This is to help you out to

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first came in here, you said 15 days. I told you at that time
1 ten minute speech" because you have to focus, you have to
probably about four or five days. I even think four or five
days may be a little long in this case. You have basically
four issues or areas that you're going to be going into.
You're going to be going into whether or not there is a valid
copyright on it by the plaintiff. Number two, you're going to
be looking at whether or not there's similarities in the two.
If there are, then you're going to be looking at access. If
there is access, similarities and copyright, then you're
looking at damages. You're looking at four areas.
So even if you spend a couple of hours on copyright and a
couple of hours on access, three or four hours on similarities
between the songs, couple hours in damages, you're looking at
about ten hours on this case. It should be able to be
presented in ten hours without any problem. I'm going to
double that. I'm going to give ten hours per side. So each
side will get up to ten hours to try their case. Now -- and I
may or may not review that and revise that on the trial date,
but that's what we can count on now, ten hours a side.
Let me talk to you about the ten hours. That comes from
any time you're asking questions or any time you're
cross-examining, any time you're talking, when there's
witnesses on the stand, that's part of the ten hours. It does
not include opening statement. It does not include closing
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figure what exactly has to get in there, et cetera. So it's


going to be more preparation on you, but it's going to be a
much cleaner case. It's going to be much more focused. It's
going to go to the jury without red herrings and things that
are going to confuse them, and it'll be a better trial on
everyone's behalf.
Okay. Let me talk to you about motions in limine. On
motions in limine, let me just give you tentatives at this
time, and I want you to keep in mind something on motions in
limine. As we know, they're really evidentiary rulings by the
Court, and they're tentative evidentiary rulings. Basically,
what it's saying is no, you can't get into that unless the
Court changes its mind. And the reason I tell you that is that
during the trial, depending on what evidence comes in,
something that we may have said was excluded may become
relevant at one time and then you bring it in.
So these are tentative rulings that the Court's going to
be issuing on these, and this is going to be tentative,
tentative rulings because I'm going to -- on the day of the
trial, I'm going to most probably say the same reason I gave
you today, hold. But between now and then, I'm going to be
looking at a few things and some of them may change, so the
motions in limine, the final ruling on the motions in limine
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you know, on the day of the trial. But keep in mind I will
keep a running tally, kind of a time clock thing, as to
those -- as to your time. I'll give it to you in terms of
minutes rather than hours. For instance, what, that's 600
minutes for ten hours, and I'll let you know each day what
you're down to, how much time you have left.
If you use up those ten hours or whatever those time
limits are and the other side hasn't, keep in mind that as
they're asking questions you're not going to be able to
cross-examine. Once you've used your time, you're out. That's
it. So be very careful that you plan your case accordingly.
Make sure that you use your time accordingly.
Now, keep in mind nobody's infallible, even this Court,
and so sometimes we get that wrong. And if at the end of the
trial or at the end of your time limits I'm convinced that
you've used your time efficiently and effectively and the
interest of justice calls for more time, I'll give it to you.
I'll give you more time if I think you -- caveat, in 14 years
since I've been here that's only happened once, so don't count
on it, but I will -- I will take that into consideration.
So keep in mind that ten hours and plan accordingly. I
know it takes more preparation. There used to be a great
commentator on TV that used to say, "It takes me take me four
or five hours to" -- or, excuse me, "It takes me half hour to
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But let me give you -- so that you can prepare the case,
let me tell you what the tentatives on this are. As to the
defendants' motions in limine -- and you know what your motions
in limine are, so I'm just going to go through by number. Some
of them I'll stop and talk to you about. If you're confused as
to what that motion in limine is, stop me and I'll be happy to
explain to you which motion in limine it is.
But, for instance, on the defense, on number one
concerning Randy Wolfe's statement, that will be granted.
Number two concerning the newspaper articles and books, as
to the books that'll probably be granted. As to pages,
statements that were made in magazines, that may very well be
relevant as far as accessibility, as far as whether or not they
saw people talking to each other, et cetera.
Number three, motions to exclude the recordings, again
this is about composition and protected areas under the
composition, not the recording, so that would be granted.
Number four, motions to exclude testimony of exhibits
of -- excuse me, motions to exclude the testimony and exhibits
of the plaintiff's experts, that's a little difficult to
explain, but the expert testimony that is based on the
composition itself incoming, any expert testimony that's based
on the musical composition, the musical performance, would not
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Led Zeppelin will be granted.
1 songs, et cetera. But I don't want it argumentative or to go
Motions to exclude reports from the historians would be
granted.
Number seven, motions to exclude levels of wealth will be
granted.
Number eight, motions to exclude evidence regarding
charitable goals of the Trust will be granted.
Number nine, motions to exclude reference to
extraterritorial revenues and revenues earned outside of the
limitation period. As to province earned outside of the
limitation period, that will be granted. As to territorial
limits, that would be denied.
Number ten, I'm going to have to give you a little bit
more reading on this when you come in for trial. These are the
motions to exclude witnesses that have not been disclosed. The
fact that you put a whole bunch of witnesses' names into
hundreds of pages of discovery doesn't necessarily give you
notice that these may be potential witnesses. So the Court's
looking at it as whether or not you are on notice that these
may be witnesses or not. Some of them, it looks like, are
going to be excluded; some of them may not be. For instance,
one that may not be is Wolfe because I think both sides
understand that Wolfe was, you know, a participant in Spirit,
et cetera, and may be called as a witness, but I'll give you
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longer than maybe a paragraph, just something short we can read


to them.
I also want every day an order of the witnesses that you
intend to call that day, and make it for the next maybe two
days so I know when the witnesses are going to be called and
what order they'll be called. I've got a list of the
witnesses, but I don't know what order you're going to be
calling them in.
Number three, voir dire, the Court conducts the voir dire
in cases in this court. We will be bringing in -- well, first
of all we're going to pick a jury of eight so we have two
extras in case there's any problem. That means I'm going to
give you four peremptory challenges on each side. We'll be
bringing in the jury. We'll sit 14 up -- it's a six-pack-type
thing. We'll be sitting 14 up there. The Court will voir dire
them. After I voir dire them -- and by the way, any questions
that you would like to ask on voir dire, if you've not already
submitted them, you can submit them and the Court will consider
those and incorporate them to the extent I feel it's
appropriate during my voir dire.
The 14 will sit there. We'll go through the voir dire.
After I've done that, we'll meet over here at the side bench,
counsel and myself, and we'll go through your challenges,
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Number 12 as to alcohol abuse, that will be granted.


Number 13 as to insurance or indemnity agreement, that
will be granted.
Number 14 as to the actual complaint going in front of
jury, that will not happen. They'll be told what the causes of
action are, but the actual complaint will not be in front of
them.
As to the plaintiff's motions in limine as to the validity
or legitimacy of the Trust, that will be granted. As to
evidence concerning the son of Wolfe and whether or not he owns
a copyright or not, that will be denied. And as to the motion
to exclude any experts on damages by the defense, that, I'm
assuming, is going to be in rebuttal. So it'll be denied as
far as rebuttal is concerned.
Okay. Now that's on the motions in limine. Let me talk
to you a little bit about what you can expect when you come in
for trial. First of all, I don't know if you have it or not,
you'll have to tell me. Do you have a short statement of the
case already filed with the court?
MR. ANDERSON: Not yet.
MR. MALOFIY: No, we do not, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. What I'd like is -- when I say a
short statement, the operative word there is "short." Maybe a
paragraph just to tell the jury what it's about, you know,
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box. Peremptory challenges only as to the first eight. No


reason to exercise a peremptory challenge before one of the
eight, you know, it doesn't make much sense. Remember as you
go through that on your peremptory challenges, if you pass on a
peremptory challenge, you do not lose it, which means that we
may end up in a situation where somebody has two or three
peremptory challenges left and the other side doesn't have any.
That's fine, but you remember that if you pass and the other
side passes, you've got your jury. You can't go back and
exercise and begin if both sides pass, but you don't lose it if
you pass, is what I'm saying.
When we finish the voir dire over here -- excuse me, the
challenges over here, I'll take the bench, and I'll excuse.
When we get to seven jurors being excused, I'll get -- come
back, take the bench, and I'll excuse the seven jurors by just
calling their number and excusing them. They will not know who
excused them or why they were excused, whether it's for cause
or peremptory or whatever. We'll just excuse those seven.
Then we'll bring another seven in. We'll go through the same
process again, go through the same process as far as challenges
until we get a jury of eight that we can sit.
I don't know if you have any questions on that process
that I've just told you as far as voir dire.
MR. ANDERSON: Not on voir dire, Your Honor. I do
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THE COURT: Well, we'll get to other matters in a
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THE COURT: Save your question, I'll address it. I
just want to -- on voir dire, any other questions on voir dire?
Okay.
If not, keep in mind something interesting. That bench
conference we have over there will be the only bench conference
that we'll ever have during the trial. I don't have bench
conferences during a trial. I'll talk to you maybe a little
bit later on it, but if you have objections and you want to be
heard on the objections, you bet, but you'll be heard at the
next time we make a break. I'll be ruling on the objection.
We'll proceed. Next time we make a break, you put it on the
record and we can either correct it if it has to be corrected
or at least preserve the record for later, but we do not break
in front of jury for bench conferences.
A couple of the procedural things that I just wanted to
address -- every court does it a little differently -- in here,
any time you make an objection please stand so I know you're
making an objection. Sometimes if you don't stand and, you
know, in a very low voice you say, "Objection," I won't even
hear it. So, you know, stand and let me know you're making the
objection. Do not argue objections in court. You can tell us
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around, talking in front of there, you don't here. You speak


from the lectern and only from the lectern.
If you introduce evidence or exhibits that are voluminous,
only introduce those pages that have been referred to in the
testimony. If you have a 100-page document and you only refer
to three pages, only introduce those three pages, not the
entire voluminous document -- document on it. You will find
out that almost anything that the attorneys agree on, the
Court -- as long as it doesn't affect the jury and the time
limits, the Court will go along with you. If you want to call
witnesses out of order, if you want to do this or that, I'm
very big on the attorneys' cooperation in the case and what you
decide to do, and if you both agree to do it, I almost always
will ride with it. So before you bring anything to the Court's
attention, I really want you to -- the two sides to talk about
it, see if you can agree on it. If you can't, bring it to my
attention. I'll be happy to make the call on it.
The one area that somebody asked me the other day about,
is there anything that we have to know about the Court's
idiosyncrasies, you know, really irritating the Court, and the
answer is yeah. Not a whole lot, but the biggest thing is if
there's any lack of civility. And I don't expect that here,
but if there's any lack of civility at all, I wouldn't want to
be in your shoes, is all I can say. I want this jury when they

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do not argue in front of the jury as to what the objection is,


and the other side can say "Not offered for the truth of the
matter." That's fine, but we don't argue further than that.
Any time you present evidence to this Court always present
it through the clerk. Never approach a witness directly,
always through the clerk and give it to the clerk and she'll
take it to the witness. You know, I don't think it has to be
said because I think, you know, we're pretty professional here,
but never refer to a witness by first name. Everybody has the
dignity in this court by being referred to by their last name.
If -- and this is just to run the case smoothly -- if
somebody says, "I want to introduce Exhibit 1 or whatever it is
into evidence," I will always wait about three or four seconds,
and if I don't hear an objection I'll probably say "Received."
The reason I say that is don't feel obligated to get up and
constantly say "No objection." You can if you want, but you
don't have to say no objection on it. If there's no objection
within three or four seconds, I'm assuming there's not going to
be an objection.
When you speak, always speak -- with the exception of
making the objection where you could stand where you are -when you speak, always speak from the podium or the lectern,
whichever one you want to call it here, because everything has
to be on the record. I've got -- I need you in front of the
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leave here to be under the impression that both sides are very
professional and both sides respect each other as attorneys and
as lawyers and as officers of the court.
I don't care what you do in the alleys behind court after
session when we're not in session, but when you're in court,
each side is going to show utmost respect to each other. If
you don't, the Court will come down heavily on you as far as
sanctions, and even sometimes if you don't follow the court
order or you're causing troubles in court, many times it will
be to the point where I will correct you and admonish you in
front of the jury, and you don't want that to happen. You
know, nobody wants to be admonished in front of the jury. It
looks bad. There's no reason for that, I don't expect that in
this case, but I just wanted to give you a heads up so that
nobody's blindsided on it, that civility is a real big thing in
this court.
Let's see. Time, let me talk to you a little bit about
time and -- I haven't forgotten you, I'm going to get to your
question, counsel, in just a second. Time. When you come on
in the first day you'll come in at nine o'clock, we'll do some
logistical things, get things wrapped up. At quarter of 10:00,
we'll have the jury down here. We'll pick the jury at quarter
of 10:00 and proceed at that time. The first day, because
we're starting a little bit late that way, we'll have to adjust
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Now, the second and remaining days of the jury trial will
1 consider that you haven't put in your moving papers, go ahead
always be on a schedule, and it'll be from 8:30 in the morning
until 11:30. We'll take a break for lunch until 1:00. We'll
come back at 1:00 and go until 4:00. That's a three-hour
session in the morning, three-hour session in the afternoon.
We'll give you a 15-minute break in there to take care of
needs, et cetera, but you can set your watch by that. At 8:30
we're going to be starting, and the jurors will know this too,
you know, if somebody's missing, even a juror, we'll probably
sit here with everyone in court waiting as that person walks
in, which will for sure be embarrassing. We'll start right at
8:30.
Keep in mind that it's just as important to end on time as
it is to start on time. At four o'clock, if you're in the
middle of a question, I'll probably say, "Remember that
question. You can repeat it tomorrow morning, but you're not
going to ask it now." Four o'clock we break. Jurors who we
call in -- you know, and it's never comfortable for them, and
they've got families that work here. They're entitled to know
when they're free and when they're not. They're going to know
that at four o'clock they're going to be free, so if they have
somebody picking them up, if they have to do some obligation
after court, that they can count on that because they will be
through at four o'clock, and they can do whatever they want.
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and submit it in the next day or two. I'll look at it again.


As I said, these are tentative until day of trial.
MR. ANDERSON: Okay, but, Your Honor, my question is
whether plaintiff can be required at this point to provide the
Rule 26(f) -- the 26 reports for the experts that were never
provided. And -- so is Your Honor considering that we'll
proceed to trial without either 26 -- Rule 26 reports from
plaintiff's experts on the transcription and depositions of
those experts?
THE COURT: The general rule applies, and that is if
you have not followed the rules and it's not properly
admissible, it's not going to come in, you know.
MR. ANDERSON: That's fine. Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yeah.
MR. ANDERSON: Thank you for the clarification.
THE COURT: Oh, sure.
MR. ANDERSON: I may have misheard, but I think on
in Limine Number 10, which seeks the exclusion of Mr. Knight,
Mr. Lee and -- both Mr. Lees and others, I believe I heard you
refer to Mr. Wolfe as a witness.
THE COURT: Oh, I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry.
Mr. Knight I was referring to.
MR. ANDERSON: Okay.
THE COURT: I misspoke.

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at one o'clock we'll start. So you can almost set your clock
by that.
Now, interesting thing, what happens if you get to quarter
of 4:00 and you've run out of witnesses, and you say, Would you
mind if we end a little bit early rather than late? Would you
mind if we ended quarter of 4:00? The answer is no, I don't
mind if you end early, but that 15 minutes is going to come off
your time, so -- just as if you're questioning a witness. So
you want to make sure you always have backup witnesses so that
that doesn't happen.
Well, counsel, you know, I've been talking a lot here.
I've been going kind of fast, and I don't want to bore you all.
You've been in trials before.
So let me ask you this: What questions might you have at
this time? And you said you had one.
MR. ANDERSON: Yes, Your Honor, thank you.
On the Motion in Limine Number 3, we, of course,
appreciate the Court's ruling that the evidence and the experts
will be confined to the transcriptions. Our concern is
several. One is none of the plaintiff's experts have ever
issued -THE COURT: Counsel, let me help you out. The
motions in limine were briefed fully by both sides. The
Court's made rulings on them. I'm not opening it up for
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MR. ANDERSON: Thank you, Your Honor. And -THE COURT: Mr. Wolfe would be tough to get in as a
witness.
MR. ANDERSON: Yes, we tried, Your Honor, but
weren't able to pull that one off. And then the only other
thing I supposed I should repeat the request for a Daubert
hearing if any of the experts that plaintiff has identified do
get past the Rule 26 issue.
THE COURT: Well, again, anybody in a case could
file any motions they wish to file. If you want to make them,
that's fine, make those motions. The Court will determine,
number one, whether or not they're timely and should be
addressed, or we'll rule on them. So I'm not foreclosing you
from making any motions you want.
MR. ANDERSON: Thank you very much, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Counsel, anything for you?
MR. MALOFIY: Yes, Your Honor.
May it please the Court, couple questions to address with
the Court. One issue is that in this case, defendants had
agreed to personal jurisdiction of this court rather than the
court of Philadelphia. It was transferred from the Eastern
District of Philadelphia to this court, and now defendants are
refusing to appear in this court in the claims against them.
Plaintiff intended to, at all times, bring them in plaintiff's
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defense counsel, that they're outside the power of this court
1 take a brief deposition of him to be used in this case before
and they won't appear. If that's the case, plaintiff would be
asking for, at the very least, a negative inference or default
if they're not going to appear in this court.
THE COURT: Nothing has to be to argued. He's just
saying that that's what he's going to do.
MR. ANDERSON: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Anything else? If you're asking for
rulings today, counsel, anything you want, put it in writing
and I'll rule on it, and those are things that should be
addressed before court because they may not be timely. So
there -- and I appreciate you letting everybody know, myself
and counsel know, that this may be something you'll be raising.
MR. MALOFIY: It is an issue also because in
preparation for the case -THE COURT: Okay.
MR. MALOFIY: -- and to be conscience of the Court's
calendar, the witnesses -- calendaring of the witnesses as
well, if we're going to be using designations, we need to know
if they're going to appear. And if they're not going to
appear, we're going to spend quite a bit of time chopping up
the videos for time of trial, and that's a concern that we
have. I wanted to raise it with the Court because it deals
with calendaring and it deals with scheduling. That's just
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trial.
THE COURT: Okay. Well, see what you can work out
with counsel. If not, make the motion, I'll be happy to rule
on it.
MR. MALOFIY: Thank you, Your Honor.
Next issue, I believe you had said that each side gets ten
hours, and I wasn't sure if that was in our case-in-chief or -in our case-in-chief and also for cross-examination.
THE COURT: Any time any testimony is being given.
MR. MALOFIY: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: It does not include opening statement or
closing argument.
MR. MALOFIY: Understood. Is there any time
limitation on the opening statement or closing argument?
THE COURT: Oh, yeah, there will be, but I'll talk
to you about it. What is it normally? I can tell you right
now. It's normally about a half hour, 45 minutes for opening
statement, but I'll tell you on the day of trial for sure.
MR. MALOFIY: All right. One -THE COURT: Many times opening statement can be
done -- you know, it depends on how -- how complicated the case
is, and one of the things everyone knows is you can make a case
as complicated as you want or as streamline as you want. But
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THE COURT: I appreciate that, and go ahead and put


it in writing. I appreciate that, I'm just not going to be
ruling on anything today on it.
MR. MALOFIY: All right. Understood. Thank you,
Your Honor.
THE COURT: Any time any issue comes up, I want to
make sure that it's in writing in front of the Court and that
the other side has an opportunity to respond to it, and then
I'll make the writing. A lot of people -- or the ruling. A
lot of people like to bring up things and have them done right
here in court, and that's not fair to either side. So I always
want it in writing, and we'll address it.
MR. MALOFIY: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: But thank you for notifying us. It's
always better to let us know what your plans are.
MR. MALOFIY: Another issue is there was a witness,
a Mike Ware, who was actually at the concert in the UK and was
at the front row and has a clear and distinct memory of seeing
Robert Plant in the front row watching the Spirit show. Now,
he has Parkinson's and he doesn't have a passport, but he said
-- and we just found out about him, I believe in the last week,
and we disclosed it immediately to the other side.
He asked -- he said he would like to testify, but he would
be -- if it was possible, to do it telephonically or a video
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Okay?
MR. MALOFIY: One other issue as it relates to the
trial technology, my understanding is -- and from viewing the
room, it has monitors and other technology here. As far as the
audio exhibits we intend to play at time of trial, it uses a
special program, Pro Tools program, which we would require two
laptops. It's my understanding that your rules only allow one
laptop for a trial tech, and my request of this Court is would
this Court allow, because this is a case that is very much
focused on the audio and things relating to the case, if we
could have an additional laptop with a trial audio tech to run
that.
THE COURT: Yeah, I may very well consider that, but
put it in writing what you want. If you want an exception to
the rules, just let me know.
MR. MALOFIY: Last two things is would we be
permitted to bring high fidelity speakers into the courtroom?
THE COURT: Probably not.
MR. MALOFIY: Okay. As far as -THE COURT: Let me make sure, just the value of the
idea that -- and some cases come in and they say, Well we want
the courtroom for five days. Other things we may be doing to
the courtroom, that's why -- that's why when boxes of exhibits
are brought in, sometimes the attorneys are upset that they
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can't we just store them in the courtroom? This is a courtroom
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MR. ANDERSON: Thank you, Your Honor.
that has a lot of cases, obviously, not just one. So I just
want to disavow anybody of the idea that we own the courtroom
for three or four days or five days, whatever it is.
Go ahead -- and as far as the technical equipment, if it's
needed, we allow it in. Talk to the technicians about it, see
if they can resolve it for you. If they can't, make a motion
to me, and if it's something that's necessary, yeah, we'll let
it in.
MR. MALOFIY: Last thing, as far as courtroom
technology, do you prefer the projection screen -- I believe
one's built into this room -- or do you prefer using the
monitors?
THE COURT: Monitors. We do have a projection
screen, but they've had so much problems with it.
MR. MALOFIY: Understand.
THE COURT: We have monitors on both sides as you
can see.
MR. MALOFIY: As far as setting up, is that
something to discuss with you now?
THE COURT: No, that's with the technicians.
MR. MALOFIY: Okay. Very well, Your Honor.
I'm not sure -- I believe that's all the questions I have.
I don't know if my co-counsel has additional ones. May I speak
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MR. MALOFIY: Thank you, Your Honor


THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: All rise. Court is in
recess.
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THE COURT: There's no such thing as an attorney


that doesn't have a question, counsel. Go ahead.

CERTIFICATE OF OFFICIAL REPORTER

MR. MALOFIY: Also, in Limine Motion Number 11,


could you repeat your ruling, Your Honor? And I apologize.
THE COURT: Sure, no problem. Let me get it.

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Number 11?

MR. MALOFIY: Yes, Your Honor.


THE COURT: That's the one that I coupled with 10.
Probably would allow -- would not exclude and would deny that

I, SHAYNA MONTGOMERY, Federal Official Realtime

Court Reporter, in and for the United States District Court for

the Central District of California, do hereby certify that

pursuant to Section 753, Title 28, United States Code that the

motion because I think Knight probably is someone that you knew

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foregoing is a true and correct transcript of the

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denying that, but I want to go over it. It kind of relates

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MR. MALOFIY: Understood.


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much. We'll see you back in on the trial date.

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