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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT


EASTERN DISTRICT OF OKLAHOMA
1. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
FORENSIC COUNSELORS, INC., a Nevada
Non-Profit Corporation, and
2. AMERICAN ACADEMY OF CERTIFIED
FORENSIC COUNSELORS, INC., d/b/a
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF CERTIFIED
FORENSIC COUNSELORS, a Nevada ForProfit Corporation,

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Plaintiffs,
v.
1. NARCONON INTERNATIONAL, a
California Non-Profit Corporation,
2. NARCONON OF OKLAHOMA, INC.,
d/b/a PITA GROUP, d/b/a
ADVANCE DETOX, d/b/a ARROWHEAD
MEDICAL DETOX, d/b/a NARCONON
CHILOCCO NEW LIFE CENTER, an
Oklahoma Non-Profit Corporation, et al.,
Defendants.

Case No. 14-CV-00187-RAW

DEFENDANTS WITNESS LIST

COME NOW the Defendants Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc., Gary Smith, Derry Hallmark,
Janet Watkins, Tom Widmann, Vickie Smith, Michael Otto, Michael J. Gosselin, Kathy
Gosselin, Michael George, Michael St. Amand, Rebecca Pool, Dena Goad, Kent McGregor, Pita
Group, Inc., Narconon International, Association for Better Living and Education, Jason Burdge,
James McLaughlin, and Robert Newman, and for their Witness List, offer the following:

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- Preliminary Statement The fact that Defendants have listed or will list an individual in their Witness List and/or
in any Amended or Supplemental Witness List is not an acknowledgment or admission by
Defendants that any part or all of the individuals testimony is admissible into evidence at trial or
in any pretrial proceeding. Defendants reserve their right to object at trial or in any pretrial
proceeding to all or part of the testimony, including any affidavit or declaration, of any
individual identified below or in any Amended or Supplemental Witness List submitted by
Defendants, and reserve their right to withdraw unilaterally the name of any such individual.
WITNESSES
No.
1.

Name / Contact
Gary Smith
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Subject Matter of Anticipated Testimony


Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his
Answer and Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.s Answer and
Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.s Answer to Plaintiffs
Complaint; matters relating to his CCDC; other relevant
matters as a staff member of Narconon Arrowhead.

2.

Derry Hallmark
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119 (918)
587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to his
CCDC; other relevant mattes as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

3.

Janet Watkins
c/o Counsel:

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in her


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; other relevant matters as a

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4.

5.

6.

M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

staff member of Narconon Arrowhead.

Tom Widmann
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; other relevant matters as a
staff member of Narconon Arrowhead.

Vicki Smith
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in her


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to her
MAC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

Michael Otto
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to his
CCDC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

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7.

8.

9.

10.

Michael J. Gosselin
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to his
CCDC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

Kathy Gosselin
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in her


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to her
CCDC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

Michael George
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to his
CCDC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

Michael St. Amand


c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer and Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.s Answer to
Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to his CCDC and other
certifications and/or credentials; other relevant matters as a
staff member of Narconon Arrowhead.

RIGGS, ABNEY, NEAL,


TURPEN, ORBISON &
LEWIS

502 West 6th Street


Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161
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15.

Rebecca Pool
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in her


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; matters relating to her BAC;
other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead.

Dena G. Goad
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in her


Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint; other relevant matters as a
field representative of Narconon Arrowhead.

Kent McGregor
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in his


Answer and Pita Group, Inc.s Answer to Plaintiffs
Complaint.

Levent Onart
Istanbul, Turkey

Will testify to matters relating to removing references to


Plaintiffs alleged certification marks from websites; other
relevant information relating to his work as an internet
consultant for Defendants.
Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and her
CCDC; other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead; her interaction and work with Dena Goad and
Levent Onart; her own interaction with other Defendants.

DannaSue Pruett
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,

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NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

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19.

Craig Silver
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and his CCDC;


other relevant matters as a staff member of Narconon
Arrowhead

Maureen St.Amand
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint; her CCDC


and other certifications and/or credentials; other relevant
matters as a staff member of Narconon Arrowhead

Virginia Reiter
c/o counsel
David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
Keesling Law Group
11114-B S. Yale Ave.
Tulsa, OK 74137

Will testify to matters addressed in Plaintiffs Complaint and


Defendants Answers; other relevant matters relating to
NAFC.

Claire Pinelli
c/o Counsel:
M. David Riggs
Donald M. Bingham
Wm. Gregory James
RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

Will testify to matters relating to McGregor/Pita Group


working in conjunction with NAFC to certify individuals;
other relevant matters relating to Pita Group, Inc.

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502 West 6th Street


Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161
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24.

Diana Cervantes
Darrell Hall
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Will testify to matters relating to NAFC's supposed attempts


to become a certifying entity in California.
His interaction and work with Dena Goad; material
allegations of the Complaint.

Karla Taylor c/o


c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Jonathan Deisler
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Francis/Frank Deisler
aka Palani
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

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26.

27.

28.

29.

Christopher Deisler
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Lucas Catton
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Eric Tenorio
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC

11114 South Yale


Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101
Clark Carr
c/o John Tucker
Rhodes Hieronymus
Jones Tucker & Gable
Two West Second
Street, 10th Floor
Tulsa, OK 74103
918.582.1173 - Phone

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and in


Narconon International's Answer to Plaintiffs Complaint

Jason Burdge
c/o Charles D. Neal, Jr.
Stacie Hixon
Michelle Harris

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and his


Answer.

Steidley & Neal


(McAlester)

P O Box 1165
McAlester, OK 74502
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31.

32.

33.

Robert Newman
c/o Charles D. Neal, Jr.
Stacie Hixon
Michelle Harris
Steidley & Neal
(McAlester)
P O Box 1165
McAlester, OK 74502

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and his


Answer.

James McLaughlin
c/o Charles D. Neal, Jr.
Stacie Hixon
Michelle Harris
Steidley & Neal
(McAlester)
P O Box 1165
McAlester, OK 74502

Will testify to matters in Plaintiffs Complaint and his


Answer.

W.L. Haskins
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Kevin Stewart
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC

11114 South Yale


Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74137
(918) 924-5101
Brett White
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone

34.

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC

11114 South Yale


Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74137
(918) 924-5101
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35.

36.

37.

38.

39.

Melvin Slawick
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Joseph Marinello
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Barry Levy
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

David R. Payne, Payne


& Associates
119 N. Robinson, # 400
Oklahoma City, OK
73102
Tel: (405) 272-0511
Fax: (405) 272-0501

Same as subjects described in Defendants Disclosure of


Experts and Amended Disclosure of Experts.

Susan S. McDonald, PhD

Same as subjects described in Defendants Disclosure of


Experts and Amended Disclosure of Experts.

1835 Market Street


Philadelphia, PA
19103-2984
(215) 496-6800
Fax: (215) 496-6801

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45.

Magnir Group, Inc.,


Same as subjects described in Defendants Disclosure of
Fred Menge, Mark
Experts and Amended Disclosure of Experts.
Davis, LLC, and Mark
Davis
1441 S. Carson Ave.,
# 101, Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 878-9037
Shlomo S. Sawilosky
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Same as subjects described in Defendants Disclosure of


Experts and Amended Disclosure of Experts.

Sam Darcy
Same as subjects described in Defendants Disclosure of
Darcy Consulting
Experts and Amended Disclosure of Experts.
Group LLC
1202 Walden Dr.
New Smyrna Beach, FL
32168
Erica Catton
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Supplementation, impeachment, and rebuttal of testimony by


Lucas Catton; material allegations set forth in the Complaint;
her own dealings with Defendants.

Desiree Danner Romero


c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

Her own interaction with Dena Goad, including taking an


NAFC test with Ms. Goad; material allegations set forth in
the Complaint; her own dealings with Defendants.

502 West 6th Street


Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161
Billy Bill Frix
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

His own interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations set


forth in the Complaint; his own dealings with Defendants.

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46.

47.

48.

Amanda Anzelone
OConnor
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Her own interaction with Dena Goad, including taking an


NAFC test with Ms. Goad; material allegations set forth in
the Complaint; her own dealings with Defendants.

Mike Anzelone
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

His own interaction with Dena Goad, including taking an


NAFC test with Ms. Goad; material allegations set forth in
the Complaint; his own dealings with Defendants.

Representatives of
NCCA and/or
ICE/NOCA
c/o Counsel for these
entities

Relationship and dealings between NCCA, ICE, NOCA,


NBAE, Karla Taylor, Frank Deisler, Jonathan Deisler,
Christopher Deisler, and Plaintiffs.

David R. Keesling

Counterclaims asserted by Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc. and


Kent McGregor, and Mr. Keeslings own responses to those
counterclaims; his own communications with USPTO as
referenced in those counterclaims and his responses thereto.
Counterclaims asserted by Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc. and
Kent McGregor, and Mr. Keeslings responses to those
counterclaims; his communications with USPTO as
referenced in those counterclaims and his responses thereto;
her own communications with USPTO; her communications
with and work for Mr. Keesling and other associates and
employees of his law firm regarding those counterclaims, Mr.
Keeslings responses thereto, and relevant communications
between his law firm and USPTO.
Counterclaims asserted by Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc. and
Kent McGregor, and Mr. Keeslings responses to those
counterclaims; his communications with USPTO as
referenced in those counterclaims and his responses thereto;
her own communications with USPTO; her communications
with and work for Mr. Keesling and other associates and
employees of his law firm regarding those counterclaims, Mr.
Keeslings responses thereto, and relevant communications
between his law firm and USPTO.
Same as subjects listed above for David Keesling, Sloane

49.
Sloane Lile

50.

Heidi Shadid

51.

52.

Representatives of

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USPTO

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60.

Christopher Clancy
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, OK 74119
(918) 587-3161

Lile, and Heidi Shadid; USPTO investigation, findings and


decision regarding the alleged incontestability of NAFCs
registered mark.
Husband of Dena Goad; his own interaction and work with
Dena Goad concerning her work as an independent
contractor, her response to the allegations and demands made
by NAFC; any other subject relevant to the allegations made
against Dena Goad specifically that appear in the Complaint.

Derek Derosier
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Maggie Geig
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Scott Geig
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Kevin Koerwitz
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Curtis James
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Kurt Carch
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

Megan Bedford
c/o RIGGS, ABNEY,
NEAL, TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS

NAFC testing, application, and certification process;


interaction with Dena Goad; material allegations of the
Complaint.

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61.

62.

Dr. Michael K. Haynes,


Ph.D.
FBCTI
4311 S. 31st Street,
Suite 150/127
Temple, TX 76502
(254) 231-4334

Regarding his organization's certifications

Ray Caesar
ODMHSAS
1200 NE 13th Street,
Oklahoma City, OK
73117
(405) 522-3908

Matters relating to the Oklahoma Chapter of the National


Association of Forensic Counselors and conversations with
Dr. Willie Haskins and NAFC representatives.

Representative of

Regarding the organization's certifications.

National Association for


Alcoholism and Drug
Abuse Counselors

63.

(NAADAC)
44 Canal Center Plaza,
Suite 301
Alexandria, VA 2314
800.548.0497
Representative of

Regarding the organization's certifications

National Board for


Certified Counselors

64.

65.

66.

67.

(NBCC)
3 Terrace Way
Greensboro, NC 27403
336-547-0607
Representative of
California Certification
Board of Chemical
Dependency
Counselors (CCBCDC)

Regarding the organization's certifications

Representative of the
Regarding the organization's certifications.
International
Certification and
Reciprocity Consortium
Cynthia Tuohy,
Executive Director of
NAADAC

Regarding her organization's certifications, and her


certifications.

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69.

70.

71.

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74.

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76.

77.

Representative of the
Maryland Addiction
and Behavioral-health
Professionals
Certification Board

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of
Union College, KY

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of Sober
College, School of
Addiction Studies,
Woodland Hills,
California

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of
Houston Community
College, Houston,
Texas

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Stewart Myrick, Texas


Addictions Board

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of
SUNY Niagara County
Community College,
Sanborn, NY

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of The
Ohio Chemical
Dependency
Professionals Board

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of
Cleveland State
University

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of
Century Community
and Technical College,
White Bear, MN

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Representative of St.
Cloud University, St.
Cloud, MN

Regarding the organization's certifications.

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79.

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81.

82.

Representative of South
Dakota Board of
Addiction and
Prevention
Professionals

Regarding the organization's certifications.

Stephanie Barshay
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Hale Humphrey Jones


c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Karen Lewis
c/o David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
KEESLING LAW
GROUP, PLLC
11114 South Yale
Avenue, Suite B
Tulsa, OK 74137
(918) 924-5101

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint.

Rubina Quereshi
c/o John Tucker
Rhodes Hieronymus
Jones Tucker & Gable
Two West Second
Street, 10th Floor
Tulsa, OK 74103
918.582.1173 - Phone

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and ABLE's


Answer

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83.

84.

Phil Hart c/o John


Tucker
Rhodes Hieronymus
Jones Tucker & Gable
Two West Second
Street, 10th Floor
Tulsa, OK 74103
918.582.1173 - Phone

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and NI's Answer

Ronald D. Bookmyer,
CPA

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint, and the finances


of Defendants.

Olivia Bowles

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Cort W. Christie

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Jennie DiBartolomeo

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Dennis L. Hoeppner

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Donald W. Lytle

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Arthur E. Mandelbaum

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Warren E. Matthias

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Steven Steckel

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Michael Stone

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and Plaintiffs'


claimed damages
Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of
Defendants

85.

86.

87.

88.

89.

90.

91.

92.
93.

Stephen D. Trotter
94.
Charles Yetman

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Rich Allen

Regarding the history of Defendants

95.
96.

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97.

Steve Eichel

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint

Matthias Gus

Regarding the allegations in the Complaint and the history of


Defendants

Brad Lackey

Regarding claims of destroyed documents

Vicky Lackey

Regarding claims of destroyed documents

Bill Morgan

Regarding Plaintiffs' interactions with the Department of


Transportation
Regarding Plaintiffs' interactions with the Department of
Transportation
All witnesses needed to authenticate, identify, sponsor, or lay
an evidentiary foundation for the admission of any exhibit,
affidavit, or declaration offered by any Defendant at trial or in
any pretrial proceeding.
Any individual needed to oppose any attempt by Plaintiffs to
authenticate, identify, sponsor, or lay an evidentiary
foundation for the admission of any exhibit, affidavit, or
declaration offered by either Plaintiff at trial or in any pretrial
proceeding.
Any individual who has been or will be identified by
Plaintiffs as an anticipated or potential witness, whether lay or
expert, in discovery or otherwise, if Defendants waive their
objections to any part or all of the individuals testimony.
Any individual identified, referred to, or described by either
Plaintiff in any Preliminary Witness List, Witness List, or any
Amended or Supplemental Witness List, and any individual
whose affidavit or declaration is offered, submitted, or filed
by either Plaintiff, if Defendants waive their objections to any
part or all of the individuals testimony.
Any individual identified, listed, or referred to by any other
Defendant or Co-Defendant as an anticipated or potential
witnesses, lay or expert, if Defendants waive their objections
to any part of or all of the individuals testimony.
Any individual named, identified, or referred to by either
Plaintiff in any Interrogatory Answer or otherwise, as being
an individual who has personal knowledge of any material
fact.

98.
99.
100.
101.
102.

103.

104.

105.

106.

107.

108.

Jim L. Swat

Defendants reserve the right to amend or supplement this Witness List as discovery
progresses or as otherwise permitted by the Court.

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Respectfully submitted,
BY: /s/ Wm. Gregory James
M. David Riggs, OBA #7583
Donald M. Bingham, OBA #794
Wm. Gregory James, OBA #4620
RIGGS, ABNEY, NEAL TURPEN,
ORBISON & LEWIS, PC
502 West 6th Street
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74119
(918) 587-3161
(918) 587-9708 Fax
don_bingham@riggsabney.com
gjames@riggsabney.com
and,
David B. Goldstein [admitted pro hoc vice]
Rabinowitz, Boudin, Standard,
Krinsky, & Lieberman, P.C.
45 Broadway, Suite 1700
New York, NY 10006-3791
212-254-1111 x103
(F) 212-674-4614
www.rbskl.com

Attorneys for Defendants Narconon of


Oklahoma, Inc., Gary Smith, Derry Hallmark,
Janet Watkins, Tom Widmann, Vickie Smith,
Michael Otto, Michael J. Gosselin, Kathy
Gosselin, Michael George, Michael St. Amand,
Rebecca Pool, Dena Goad, Kent McGregor and
Pita Group, Inc.
and,
William H. Forman (admitted pro hac vice)
Gregory A. Ellis (admitted pro hac vice)
Scheper Kim & Harris LLP
601 W. 5th Street, 12th Floor
Los Angeles, California 90071
(213) 613-4655
(213) 613-4656 Fax
wforman@scheperkim.com
gellis@scheperkim.com
Attorneys for Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.,
Gary Smith, Michael St. Amand, and Rebecca
Pool

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w/ Permission: __ /s/ John H. Tucker________


John H. Tucker, jtucker@rhodesokla.com
Colin H. Tucker, chtucker@rhodesokla.com
Kerry R. Lewis, klewis@rhodesokla.com
Denelda L. Richardson, drichardson@rhodesokla.com

Rhodes Hieronymus Jones Tucker & Gable


P.O. Box 21100
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74121-1100
and
w/ Permission: __/s/ Thomas M. OLeary_____
Thomas M. O'Leary, thomas.o'leary@leclairryan.com

LeClairRyan, LLP
725 S Figueroa St, Ste 350
Los Angeles, CA 90017
Attorneys for Defendants Narconon
International and Association for Better Living
and Education
w/Permission: __/s/ Stacie L. Hixon______
Stacie L. Hixon, slh@steidley-neal.com
Michelle Harris, mbh@steidley-neal.com
Steidley & Neal (Tulsa)
2448 E. 81st St., Ste 5300
Tulsa, OK 74137
and
Charles D. Neal, Jr., cdn@steidley-neal.com
Steidley & Neal (McAlester)
P O Box 1165
McAlester, OK 74502
Attorneys for Defendants Jason Burdge, James
McLaughlin, Robert Newman

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I hereby certify that on 1st day of June, 2016, I electronically transmitted the attached document
to the Clerk of Court using the ECF System for filing. Based on the records currently on file, the
Clerk of Court will transmit a Notice of Electronic Filing to the following ECF registrants:
David R. Keesling
Laurel A. Carbone
Timothy S. Kittle
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
Also on June 1, 2016 I mailed a copy of the above and foregoing pleading to:
D. Eric Mitchell, Pro Se
6418 Wildwood Dr.
Brentwood, TN 37027-4860
/s/ Wm. Gregory James
Wm. Gregory James

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