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Wodzimierz Nowak & Angelika Kuniak. My Warsaw Madness. The Other Side of the
Warsaw Uprising.
Gazeta Wyborcza, 08/27/2004.
Copyright 2005-2008 Project InPosterum. All rights reserved.
Mathias Schenk, an 18-year old Belgian served as Sturmpionier (assault engineer) in
Wehrmacht during the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. Members of his unit
were assigned to various SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger platoons as demolition engineers.
In 2002 Mathias Schenk story was made into a documentary lm titled Mathi Schenks letzte
Reise nach Polen directed for ZDF by Dietrich Schubert.
Initial translation: Piotr Dawidko, Grzesiek (Alphabet 76), Grzegorz Hermanowicz, Alfred
wiaty. Final translation: Elbieta Kaska.
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In Warsaw I partook in 19 ghts on knives and bayonets. In cellars. Cellars were a second
Warsaw. When you ght in a cellar, it's quiet, you don't see anything. I was faster. I killed
that Pole. Warsaw my most terrible experiences.
Summer of 1944. Mathi Schenk and Peter, his friend from the army, are eating bean soup at
some inn. Both in Wehrmacht uniforms. They somehow managed to leave the barracks and
go to town. They talk about that fool Fels, and about some guys who escaped from the army
yesterday. Mathi can't escape because Gestapo have threatened that they'll send his father to
the Eastern front. He's the youngest soldier in the 46th Assault Brigade, they call him Bubi.
Recently he had his 18th birthday. They're stationing near Bonn. They were incorporated
into the Brigade by a trick. First, the Germans looked for volunteers to incorporate into SS,
then into the new Assault Brigade. None came. So they announced that they need truck
drivers. The boys were eager. Everyone wanted to drive. Mathi was happy that he got in.
They got new uniforms, goggles and were transported near Bonn. There Lieutenant Fels
welcomed them:
You impudent swines, you look like some clowns, take those goggles off!
Since then there wasn't a single word about trucks.
The inn owner turns up the volume on the radio. They're talking about the Fuhrer, that there
was an assassination, that he's probably dead. The inn becomes silent. Soldiers are riding
motorcycles in the street. Suddenly the inn becomes deserted. The food is left behind, none
paid. The inn owner hides behind the counter. Mathi and his friend escape through the back
door.
There is a huge mess in the barracks, the sirens are howling.
Is Hitler dead? some soldier asks.
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Shut up your muzzles! Even if we're totally alone, we'll be loyal to our Fuhrer! Who
hesitates, will be shot! Fels shouts. He places guards around the barracks and the soldiers
are laughing that they don't even have their weapons yet.
After a few days they got their ries and grenades. Readiness. The orchestra was playing.
They marched to the train station. They were sure that they were going to France. They were
happy with that, because in France it's easier to escape. They had food for two days and lots
of red wine in 20-liter [5.2 gallon] barrels. The railway wagons were open; there was hay on
the oor. Comfortable. They drank, they sang. They played cards. People in the elds were
waving. At the station they sent Bubi to the back of the train to get the next 20 liters of wine.
The train was long. When it started moving Bubi couldn't get to his wagon. He sat all night
on a step between the wagons. That's why he was the only one sober when at dawn they
reached a village. He immediately thought that it was Poland he saw at terrain and houses
with thatched roofs. They started drinking again. It was hot August 1st. They lay on the
hay and listened to the clatter of the train wheels. Suddenly he saw that wood from the
planks is splintering. Yelling, blood. Someone's shooting at us! The train started to move
back. The wounded were dying, drunken people were waking up. Damn, they brought us to
the Russian front! Even the company's commander was staggering, he was incapable to
ght. Some children were asking for bread. A soldier was running through the eld, with his
face covered in blood. There's an uprising in Warsaw! he shouted.
In 'Horsey Village'
Summer of 2004. 1,200 km [746 miles] from Warsaw to Bullingen, a small Belgian village
near the border with Germany (on one side of the street a Belgian pub, on the opposite a
German). A beautiful region with windmill power plants. Mathias Schenk lives in a small
house with his wife and the youngest son. The house has a thatched roof. Their grandparents
called this place 'Horsey Village' because of a horsey swarm living in the old oak.
There's a Saint Mary of Czestochowa painting over the replace. A gift from the Polish
farmers who saved Mathias' life in 1945. We went to 'Horsey Village' to listen to his
account about the Warsaw Uprising. An account coming from the opposite side.
A 78-year old Belgian Mathias Schenk, in 1944 an 18-year old Sturmpionier (assault
engineer) is talking. His train was the last one, which reached the uprising Warsaw on
August 1st.
It's impossible to say... the old man is frowning. When you burn bodies they are moving.
You can hear sounds similar to moans. Back then I thought that they're still alive. And these
ies, worms. How many people were killed in Warsaw? Some 350,000, yes?
The Captain's Orderly
Since I was a child, I always wanted to be a veterinarian. We had a farm. When in 1940 the
German army entered our village, I was 14. (The Eupen-Malmedy region is today's Germanspeaking Belgium. As a border area, it changed hands a lot. In 1919 it was accepted as part
of Belgium. After conquering Belgium Hitler incorporated this area into the Reich). Some of
the neighbors started to greet themselves with Heil Hitler!. We said traditional Guten Tag.
They looked at us like we were traitors because we didn't have swastikas in our windows.
The Nazis were asking my father why I wasn't in the Hilterjugend. They also interrogated
my parents because my two brothers escaped into occupied Belgium. We had visits from
Gestapo, they interrogated me too. The third brother was hiding in our neighborhood. They
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found some tomatoes. We were constantly shot at. The next evening the infantry came to the
rescue but we made no progress. Then a SS unit arrived. They looked strange. They had no
ranks on their uniforms and reeked of vodka. They attacked instantly screaming hooorrraaay
and were dying by dozens. Their commander dressed in a black leather coat was raging in
the back pushing his men to attack. A tank arrived. We rushed with the SS troopers behind it.
A few meters from the buildings the tank was hit. It exploded and a soldiers hat ew high
up. We ran away again. The second tank was hesitating. We were covering the front as the
SS-men were rushing civilians out of their homes and positioning them around the tank,
forcing some to sit on the armor. For the rst time in my life I saw such a thing. They were
speeding up a Polish woman in a long coat. She was holding a little girl in her arms. People
crowded on the tank were helping her to climb up. Someone took the girl. When he was
handing her back to the mother the tank started moving forward. The child fell down under
the tracks and got crushed. The woman was screaming in terror. One of the SS-men frowned
and shot the woman in the head. They continued driving. Those who tried to escape were
killed by SS-men.
The attack was successful. The Poles were retreating. We chased behind them. Behind us
civilians were getting out of cellars with their arms up. They were screaming nicht partisan
(we are not partisans). I didnt see what was happening there because we were exchanging
re with the Poles but I heard as this SS commander in the leather coat was shouting to his
men to kill everyone, including women and children.
We followed the Poles into one of the houses. There were three of us. We were on the
ground oor. The Poles were attacking from upper oors and the cellar. All night we were
burning furniture to see something. Time after time we were ghting bayonet to bayonet. At
dawn I saw that there are only two of us. The third soldier had his throat slit. There were
bodies in every room. A sniper was shooting at us from the roof of a house across the street.
Weve hit him, he fell down but his leg caught on the construction beam. He was hanging
upside down. He lived for a long time before he died. When we were returning, bodies of
Poles were scattered all over the streets. There was no other way than to walk on dead
people. In the heat they were decaying rapidly. The sun was covered with dust and smoke.
Plenty of ies and worms. We were covered with blood. The uniforms were sticky. This
fanatic fool Lieutenant Fels welcomed us. Where have you been, you cheeky pigs? He was
praising the SS for a good job. I couldnt eat anything. We were all throwing up.
We Called Him 'The Butcher'
In the barracks Bubi heard that this big SS-man in the black coat is Oscar Dirlewanger and
his people were criminals released from prisons. He learned more about his 'comrades in
arms' after the war. In 1940, with Himmlers consent, Dirlewanger ordered the poachers out
of prisons because they possessed extraordinary shooting abilities and could set traps.
Dirlewanger himself, a political sciences Ph.D. and NSDAP member since 1923, had also
been in prison before for child molestation.
They were trained in the Oranienburg Concentration Camp. They made themselves known
for their numerous crimes and atrocities in the Lublin area and in Belarus. The losses were
reinforced with new criminals often with pending death sentences and SS- men from
punishment units. In the summer of 1944 they were upgraded to a brigade. On August 5,
1944, Himmler pushed them to subdue the Warsaw Uprising.
SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger was attacking from Wolska and Towarowa Streets. It was
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'pacifying' the Old Town, Powisle, Upper Czerniakow and City Centre. In mid-August,
Dirlewanger got promoted to Oberfuhrer and at the end of September he got the Iron
Knights Cross.
Then in the cellars of Warsaw we were calling him the butcher. Silently because in his
units the way to the rope was short. He had a habit of hanging people every Thursday. Poles
or his own people for nothing. Very often he himself kicked the chairs from under his
victims feet.
In the restaurant, old Schenk sits in a corner, always with his back to the wall.
Stupid habit, he smiles. Also an Uprising souvenir.
After a few days of ghting we were assigned to Dirlewanger. Three Sturmpioniere for
each SS platoon. Our job was to make way for SS-men, blow up all obstacles and doors. We
were jumping into houses and chasing out people. We were Fels people but during the ght
we were under Dirlewangers command.
Always in the lead. Run, place the explosive and after the detonation jump into the
building. We were followed by Dirlewangers horde. They were looking like bums. Dirty
and shredded uniforms. Not all of them had weapons; they were taking them from the dead.
Every morning they were getting vodka. We, the Sturmpioniere did too. We were drinking
on an empty stomach; before attack one does not eat. If you get shot in an empty stomach,
you may survive; if you are shot in a full stomach you die in pain.
Dirlewanger walked in the rear, sometimes rode in a tank, always under a good cover. He
rushed his men forward. Those who lagged behind were shot by him in the back.
Nurse With a Tiny White Flag
Usually a large crowbar was enough to open doors of buildings and houses. To open
stronger ones we were setting explosives or clusters of three grenades. The heavy, twowinged doors of the Bishops Palace blew out in two directions. Inside everything was
purple. In the dining room food was set on the table. Still warm. We didnt try it, because we
were afraid it was poisoned.
It's important to know where to set the explosives. From the side, in the middle. All
depends where you want the doors to y after the explosion and everything must be done as
silent as possible because the Poles were standing behind doors listening and shooting. So
we sometimes scratched opposing ends of doors to mislead the Poles.
I was setting explosives under big doors, somewhere in Old Town. From inside we heard
Nicht schieen! Nicht schieen! (don't shoot). The doors opened and a nurse appeared with a
tiny white ag. We went inside with xed bayonets. A huge hall with beds and mattresses on
the oor. Wounded were everywhere. Besides Poles there were also wounded Germans.
They begged the SS-men not to kill the Poles. A Polish ofcer, a doctor and 15 Polish Red
Cross nurses surrendered the military hospital to us. The Dirlewangerers were following us.
I hid one of the nurses behind the doors and managed to lock them. I heard after the war that
she has survived. The SS-men killed all the wounded. They were breaking their heads with
rie butts. The wounded Germans were screaming and crying in despair. After that, the
Dirlewangerers ran after the nurses; they were ripping clothes off them. We were driven out
for guard duty. We heard women screaming. In the evening, on Adolph Hitler's Square [now
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Pisudzki Square] there was a roar as loud as during boxing ghts. So I and my friend
climbed the wall to see what was happening there. Soldiers of all units: Wehrmacht, SS,
Kaminski's Cossacks, boys from Hitlerjugend; whistles, exhortations. Dirlewanger stood
with his men and laughed. The nurses from the hospital were rushed through the square,
naked with hands on their heads. Blood ran down their legs. The doctor was dragged behind
them with a noose on his neck. He wore a rag, red maybe from blood and a thorn crown on
top of the head. All were lead to the gallows where a few bodies were hanging already.
When they were hanging one of the nurses, Dirlewanger kicked the bricks she was standing
on. I couldn't watch that anymore. We ran to our quarters, but before we reached them we
saw Kaminskis Cossacks rushing with civilians. We called those 'Cossacks Hiwis' from
Hilfswillige (volunteers, willing to help). Next to them a Polish pregnant woman fell down.
One of the Hiwis turned back and whipped her, she tried to escape on knees, but they killed
her running over her with horses.
Poles Sang a Lively Song
We were sleeping in cellars. In the quarters, between attacks, we drank a lot of vodka; we
talked a lot, too. 'Maybe tomorrow I will be wounded and return home', we were saying.
We had nightmares. I screamed in my sleep. Then my companions were waking me up with
cold water saying 'Bubi, Du hast den Warschaukoller' (Bubi, you have the Warsaw
madness).
We slept in clothes, continuous alarms; Raus! Raus! Fels yelled. More than once we could
hear the Poles on the other side of the wall. Once they even sang a lively song. Sometimes I
cried. When you attack you are not afraid, but in the quarters you shake. We drank a lot.
Commando of Ascension
We demolished a wall which was obstructing the view of a big yard. SS planned to storm
the buildings on the other side of it. When a colleague was battering the doors with a
crowbar, I saw a Pole on my left side. I pulled my colleagues into a hole in the wall, but both
got hit. One got the whole magazine, the second in the lungs, the bullet bounced from the
dog tag. When he was breathing, blood was pouring out of his mouth. I put soil in his lung
wound. I was lying with the dead and the wounded. I pressed against the wall. My colleague
groaned, the Poles tossed grenades. I threw one back, the second rolled out of my reach. I
was red from the blood and esh. In the afternoon four soldiers from Wehrmacht came with
stretchers. We managed to break through, but the wounded colleague got three shots and
died. I couldn't say a word; I shivered and was throwing up. The Major gave me a day to
rest, so I saw the burial of my colleagues. They took their shoes off, threw them into a ditch
with other killed and sprinkled with lime. Polish civilians had to do everything.
Colleagues were perishing, new ones were sent to us. I had stupid luck, maybe because
when Fels forced me to action, he wished me to die like a dog. (Schenk is laughing). I
don't think he liked me. Our group of assault engineers was called then the
Himmelfahrtskommando (Commando of Ascension), because we always were rst, and the
Poles were shooting, no one knew from where. The bullet whizzes and you y to heaven.
We quickly learned from clever Poles how to hide. They could shoot from under a slightly
risen roong tile. Many fought in German uniforms and spoke German very well. We
couldn't wear our metal helmets as Poles were wearing them too. We were afraid we would
start shooting at our own troops.
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In the beginning I was a bad shooter. I was punished for lack of aim. I couldn't shut my left
eye. They were suspecting I'm simulating. They sent me to a doctor and he told me to shoot
from the other hand. I became a left eye shooter. It was quite handy in street ghts.
Once in a hand-to-hand combat a Pole yanked the rie from a new colleague. Fels came in
with SS-men and ordered him to retrieve the gun. The boy was shaking all over, but Fels
drew his own gun and ordered him to follow the Poles. The boy returned quickly badly
wounded with a knife; he was screaming and bleeding.
I was left alone once more. My storm troop mates were heavily wounded with knife and
bayonet. It was August 6th. From that point on the dates are blurry. I can only remember the
heaviest ghts in a certain order, but without dates. I remember, that on August 14th I got a
postcard from the pastor from Mineeld; last message from home. On September 15 I was
looking at the other bank of the Vistula River. I saw a Russian tank Then a second and third.
They came to the bank. We all panicked. The Russians must have had a great view of our
positions; they weren't shooting. The tanks disappeared between houses.
Something Hot
I was lying in an apartment on the third oor. A SS ofcer ordered us to hold the house.
The whole apartment was covered with a thick layer of sand. Good idea, I was admiring the
owners. I would do the same. They must have worked hard. The sand protected the
apartment from re. After the war all they will need to do is remove it, I thought. I was
throwing gasoline bottles through the window at the cinema on the other side of street.
Houses attacked with such bottles usually were starting to burn. I thought we smoked out the
Poles, but they were still shooting and tossing grenades. In the dust of the last detonation I
started to run downstairs. When I moved by a window on the staircase, I felt pain like from a
strike of a whip and something hot. Hands and face in blood. I felt I was seriously wounded.
My friends too. They took my pants off and started to roll on the oor laughing. I had a
small mark on my butt. A bullet hit the canteen with coffee.
Gefreiter Bubi in a Newspaper
Probably at that time Bubi was promoted to the Gefreiter (corporal) rank. The promotion
was automatic after 15 hand-to-hand ghts. Every ght was noted in the soldier's military
book. Even Fels mentioned something about Schenks courage. Especially as there was an
article in the front paper Das Weichselblatt (Vistula News), which stated that Gefreiter
Schenk freed German prisoners of war.
It was complete coincidence. I just blew out the next door. I was setting the charge and
heard: Nicht schieen! There was a white ag in the window. The doors opened and 30
German soldiers came out. They were crying from happiness, kissing me everywhere. They
said, that Poles that took them captive, treated them well.
For Warsaw Bubi was awarded Second Class Iron Cross.
My Wife Sleeps Long, I Try to Count Them All
Sometimes in the movies, there are scenes from the Uprising, but there is nothing that I've
seen. I haven't told that to anybody yet with such great detail. You ask about everything. Its
your right, but everything is coming to life again. Back then we had no idea that those killed
will never die, that they will always be with us. Everything happened so quickly. Shouting,
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There was a shortage of water in Warsaw. There was a bathtub at a dressing point, where
fresh water was stored. Once I jumped into it. Many others jumped too. A paramedic I knew
told me about lots of underwear left in an abandoned cellar. It was blue, non-regulatory. I got
rid of the military rags and took the blue ones. Later on I got one week of penitentiary
company from the sergeant. I had to carry mines on the river's bank.
My second penitentiary watch was for a priest. We blew up the back door to a monastery
very heavy, they lead to a cellar. The monastery, a huge building near the Old Town, was
already very damaged by bombs and grenades. Two of us jumped inside. There was a priest
standing in front of us. He held a wafer and a chalice in his hands. Maybe this was an
impulse, I don't know. We genuected and took the communion. Then a third from our group
ran in and did the same. SS-men stormed in and the usual shots, screams, and groans could
be heard. The nuns were in habits. A few hours later I saw that priest in Dirlewangerers'
hands. They drank wine from the chalice, the wafers were scattered and broken. They were
pissing on a cross that was leaning against the wall. They were torturing the priest: he had a
bloody face, torn cassock. We took that priest from them, it was an impulse. They were
surprised, but so drunk, that they didn't know what was happening. The next day they also
didn't remember what happened. We passed the priest to our battalion. I didn't hear about
him anymore. But on the road we meet Fels. For the priest I got a solitary guard duty on a
bridge. I think it was the Kierbiedz Bridge. Bridges on the Vistula River were already
demolished, but part some of the spans were still standing. The Russians had a machine gun
nest on their side of the river and we had ours on our side. Day and night I had to stand in
the middle of the bridge and gather intelligence. I hid behind steel cranes. The night was
peaceful. From time to time the guns were shooting at each other, more into the air because
of large distance. During the day the Russians were moving around rather carefree. In the
back small cars were bringing food and ofcers with wide epaulettes observed through
binoculars our part of Warsaw. Soldiers were sun tanning.
On another penal guard, hidden in a bale of fabric in a textile factory, I watched the Poles.
In case of attack I had to shoot a red are and run away. There were 40 of them. A
uniformed ofcer was leading the group. They looked pitiful. Many were wounded. I saw
women with weapons, civilians, and children. Their weaponry was poor. In the evening I
returned with a report. We stormed that hideout in the morning.
I don't remember when we decided to kill this pig Fels. To survive because he constantly
pushed us ahead. Seven or eight of us drew ries at random. Two were loaded. When the
occasion came up that Fels was in front of us we shot him in the back. He fell and we
escaped. The new commander was much more humane.
Pants Heavy With Gold
Today I don't know if we blew up the State Securities Printing House or maybe the Polish
Bank. It was somewhere downtown. We couldn't conquer that target for a long time. They
told us to dig a tunnel. We dug in pairs, wearing only underpants. We changed in the fore.
When I was in front, I smelled a strange odor and then my colleague stopped taking soil
from me. I crawled to him; he was dead. The tunnel exited into a cellar. I heard Poles. They
probably took it over. At night I crawled out of the hole and walking through the cellars
managed to rejoin ours. I couldn't recognize the sentry. He ordered me to lie on the ground. I
screamed my name and password: Heidekrug (pot of the heather). He asked why I'm clad in
underpants only. Eventually he believed me.
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The next day they brought a Goliath. Civilians had to lead its path, because Poles learned
how to detonate a Goliath at our lines and many soldiers died. The Goliath made a hole in
the wall. The whole night we were chasing the Poles in the cellars and on the oors. In the
morning a tank came and the building was taken. Lots of gold coins lay about in the cellars.
We were stufng our pockets so full so that our pants were falling off. Then the gold
disappeared. The boys were whispering that Dirlewanger took it somewhere.
I Knew Who Would Live
That was probably my last action in Warsaw. We were storming some building, I ran
through a eld. A wounded soldier lay on the ground. I gave him some water from my
canteen, than ran forward to blow some doors. The SS was moving behind us. When I ran
back, Dirlewanger stopped me. He pointed to the wounded soldier: You gave water to this
pig? Only then did I notice, that on a German uniform the wounded had a dirty white-red
armband.
Shoot him! Dirlewanger handed me his pistol.
I stood motionless, sick of all of that. Dirlewanger was so furious, that I couldn't understand
what he was shouting. The Pole looked at me. I will never forget his eyes. In Warsaw I
learned to recognize if a wounded would survive the next ten minutes or a couple of hours.
When one sees so many people dying you just know how long they will live. One of
Dirlewanger SS-men grabbed the gun from me and shot the Pole.
Dirlewanger shouted that he will shoot me on site. Then some Wehrmacht soldiers arrived
so he began to threaten me with court martial. One infantry ofcer started a violent
discussion with him. I ran away.
By the end of September three Poles approached me with their hands up. They handed over
a machine gun and two pistols. One of them spoke perfect German. I stood alone at my post.
I didn't know what to do. I said they have to wait, and better not be noticed by anyone. I was
lucky, I quickly found our new lieutenant. He took the POWs personally and escorted them
to the SS.
The last stronghold of the Uprising surrendered. Some high-ranking ofcer came, as a
representative of the nation, with a white ag. We led him to our battalion commander. I saw
there our Major Wullenberg, Dirlewanger and other commanders. After a couple of hours
the Poles arrived, with a vast number of people following them. All the wounded were
placed in a huge warehouse of a vinegar factory. We were ordered to leave. From the outside
we heard screams and shots. I know what happened there.
During the last days of the Uprising I ran across Fels. He was seriously wounded, but
survived our shots. I carefully avoided him. I saw Dirlewanger for the last time he was
walking among the ruins accompanied by two beautiful women. The city was burning, dead
bodies were everywhere in the streets. His leather coat was worn out. The women one
blonde, one brunette were very elegant, clean. They were chattering away happily. I didn't
know if these women were Polish I was too far.
The remnants of Warsaw were being blown up by demolition squads. We were relocated,
but in November we returned to Warsaw once again. We were playing soccer. The ball fell
into a cellar. I jumped in to bring it back. In the cellar there were uncountable human bodies,
now almost skeletons.
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