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Adobe Premiere: Difference between Indexing and Conforming? (self.premiere)


submitted 2 years ago by bradhotdog
I'm working on a large project in Premiere where I'm doing a sort of highlights of lots of videos our
station has made over the last year. There are about 60 something videos, all are about 1-2 hours long
each (they're large tv shows) but the file sizes are about 3-4 GB's each.
I imported them into Premiere, and then, like usual, it has to do it's indexing and conforming at the
bottom right corner of the screen. (CS6)
My two questions are: 1)What is the difference between indexing and conforming?
2) Is it ok for me to start working on the project while Premiere is doing these tasks? I've always tried to
not do anything just in case something becomes corrupt, but It's been working on all these files for the last
4 hours, and it's getting ridiculous that I have to wait 4 hours before just being able to work on my project

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[]dirtyfries 1 point 2 years ago
I was always under the impression video is indexed and audio is conformed.
Both processes are basically Premiere getting the footage ready to be used in the timeline for easy
scrubbing and editing.

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[]bradhotdog[S] 1 point 2 years ago


so would you recommend not editing or using the footage until the indexing and conforming is
completed?

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[]dirtyfries 1 point 2 years ago


Correct. Let it finish before working with it.
Just re-read - had no idea it was taking 4 hours. That's sort of insane...though it sounds like you do have a
ton of footage. Sad reality of the situation.
If there's any footage you don't need try to drop it from the project so it doesn't need to get
conformed/indexed.

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[]flame2bits 1 point 2 years ago


Just once right? Its gonna be a hassle to start working with it before done.

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[]bradhotdog[S] 1 point 2 years ago


correct, just once

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[]fanamana 1 point 2 years ago*


You have tons of video, and it sounds like the files are all delivery formats rather than something more
readily editable. You guys may want to consider that if this will be an annual or semiannual project.
Having a master file that is either a good intermediate or finishing codec will save time, quality, and
system performance if the material needs to become a source file.
What's happening now is Premiere is creating Temp files to allow frame accurate preview & editing from
source material that has negligible information for most of the frames. You're basically processing 100+
hours of raw footage.

One way to attack the project would be to break your project in to 10 - 12 subprojects. The Processing of
4-8 long form videos will be more tolerable than 60 in one go.
You can pull selects and subclips for each subproject, then create a master project at the end of the preselect editing process.
You can import each sub project into the master project, and Premiere will not have to re-conform/index
source videos as long as you did not clear the cache or move or rename files/folders.
This would also be a good way to get familiar with so much damn source material, and envision what the
final edited video should be.

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[]bradhotdog[S] 1 point 2 years ago


This is not a normal thing. We work at a Cable Access TV station, and there is an award we're looking at
getting, but it requires us to send in a video no longer than 20 minutes long that has unedited clips from
all different types of programming that we air, Public, Educational, and Government. So that's why I have
so much footage to work with, all the final exports of shows from our playback system.
They're all in final delivery formats because that's what they are meant for. We don't normally ever do
reedits after a shows done. The final delivery format is for broadcasting on TV. That's why all of these are
in this format. Not to mention, most of the footage is not produced or edited by us, but turned in from
contractors or local producers.
Sounds like that might be a good idea if I just want to not sit to long at a time, but regardless, I'll still have
to have them all conformed and indexed, so it really doesn't make a difference, I'll just let them all go at
once. Can't really finish up the project till they're all done anyway.
Good to know exactly what it's doing though when it's making the index and conforming files. Still wish
Premiere did not work in this way. I edit on FCPX (use to use FCP6) at my house, and one of the great
things I love about it is being able to edit all my footage the second I click import. It can transcode and
create proxy files for me if I choose, but it does that in the background and switches to those after it's
done processing, but in the meantime, i can start editing with the raw footage from the second i click that
import button. really helps get things done a lot faster. just didn't know if there was a way to get things
done faster on Premiere or if this is a handicap i'm going to have to deal with each time i use Premiere

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[]fanamana 1 point 2 years ago


So you really think this project would be cake on your FCP_X system?

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[]bradhotdog[S] 1 point 2 years ago


me personally, yea i think so. i don't have a choice though unless i bring my imac into work, which i don't
wanna do. we have Premiere at work. Which i do love Premiere. It's just the one issue with it is having to
wait so long to load all these files up before you can start working with them. It's usually not a big issue if
i don't have that much footage to bring in, but being this is a special project where i have an ungodly
amount of stuff to bring it, it's taking a long time.
Editing it would take me the same amount of time on either NLE system, but just because I have to wait
so long to load all this material into Premiere, it's making FCPX seem like the one i'd want to use just
because of the unusually large amount of files and footage i need to bring into the program.

http://best-mac-tips.com/2014/02/03/adobe-premier-media-cache-delete/

Cleaning up the Adobe Premiere cache


Posted on February 3, 2014
Today I was going through my drive with DaisyDisk to see what was taking up large amounts of
space on my relatively small SDD hard drive. One culprit was the folder:
/Users/Jonathan/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common/Media Cache Files

Some of the files in here were close to 2 gb in size. Adobe has the following to say about these
files:

Move or clean the Media Cache Database


When Premiere Pro imports video and audio in some formats, it processes and
caches versions of these items that it can readily access when generating
previews. Imported audio files are each conformed to a new .cfa file, and
MPEG files are indexed to a new .mpgindex file. The media cache greatly
improves performance for previews, because the video and audio items do
not need to be reprocessed for each preview.
Note:
When you first import a file, you may experience a delay while the media is
being processed and cached.
A database retains links to each of the cached media files. This media cache
database is shared with Adobe Media Encoder, After Effects, Premiere Pro,
Encore, and Soundbooth, so each of these applications can each read from
and write to the same set of cached media files. If you change the location of
the database from within any of these applications, the location is updated
for the other applications, too. Each application can use its own cache folder,
but the same database keeps track of them.

Choose Edit > Preferences > Media (Windows) or Premiere Pro >
Preferences > Media (Mac OS), and do one of the following:

To move the media cache or the media cache database, click


the respective Browse, button.

To remove conformed and indexed files from the cache


and to remove their entries from the database, click
Clean. This command only removes files associated with

footage items for which the source file is no longer


available.
Note:
Before clicking the Clean button, make sure that any storage devices
that contain your currently used source media are connected to your
computer. If footage is determined to be missing because the storage
device on which it is located is not connected, the associated files in
the media cache is removed. This removal results in the need to
reconform or reindex the footage when you attempt to use the
footage later.
Cleaning the database and cache with the Clean button does
not remove files that are associated with footage items for
which the source files are still available. To manually remove
conformed files and index files, navigate to the media cache
folder and delete the files.

I have put in bold blue the parts relevant to cleaning up these files. In my case using the Clean
button only removed some of the files. Some very large files remained. So I deleted those
manually. The key point is that it is safe to do so.

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View Full Version : Why does Premiere Pro conform files already of the correct sample rate?
adoniscik
5th February 2004, 05:19
I am editing NTSC DV in Premiere Pro and would like to know if there is a way to disable
conforming. The audio sampling rate in the Project Settings matches that of the source (i.e.,
48KHZ). Why then does it insist on conforming everything, wasting my precious time?
jkwarras
5th February 2004, 10:56
Originally posted by adoniscik
I am editing NTSC DV in Premiere Pro and would like to know if there is a way to disable
conforming. The audio sampling rate in the Project Settings matches that of the source (i.e.,
48KHZ). Why then does it insist on conforming everything, wasting my precious time?
I'm sure there must be an option to disable that, but that must be well "hiden" :) I've too
experienced that behaviour, but I didn't find it (but i didn't look very close either).
Regards
communist
6th February 2004, 00:04
Yeah thats one annoying thing about Pro. It does conform them all to '32-bit quality' - whatever
that means (I'm no sound expert).
This is done always and there is no way to disable it :( :devil:
adoniscik
8th February 2004, 01:59
An email I received was as follows:
yes I have !
export first video without audio, second time audio only and mux them
together in the third pass. somehow, exporting audio by itself works
OK (no more clipping)
jkwarras
8th February 2004, 13:57
Originally posted by adoniscik
An email I received was as follows:
I'll try this. Thanks a lot for the info.
Regards

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Indexing and Conforming question with


premiere pro
Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by JoJosh, May 5, 2006.

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JoJosh Guest
I notice that when I import files, in the bottom corner of the
workspace, the
files are "Indexed" and then they are "conformed". Being a novice, what
is the definition of these functions and what do they prepare? Layman
term if possible. Some files seem to take a long time especially wmv
types.
tks

JoJosh, May 5, 2006


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>I notice that when I import files, in the bottom corner of the
> workspace, the
> files are "Indexed" and then they are "conformed". Being a novice, what
>
> is the definition of these functions and what do they prepare? Layman
> term if possible. Some files seem to take a long time especially wmv
> types.
> tks
>
Found this on the adobe web site.
Conforming - http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/317366.html
Indexing - dont know about this one but I have never seen it!
dAVE

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Support Knowledgebase
Troubleshoot audio playback (Adobe Premiere Pro)

This document can help you resolve audio problems that occur while you use Adobe Premiere
Pro. Performing these tasks can help you resolve the most common problems.
To benefit most from this document, perform the tasks in order. Keep track of the tasks you
perform and the results of each, including errors or other problems. Adobe Technical Support can
use this information to better assist you, should you need to call.
Before performing any of these tasks, back up all personal files (for example, Adobe Premiere
Pro files you created).
1. Check your connections.
Ensure that your speakers, capture card audio ports, and DV devices are properly connected.
2. Make sure that the system meets the requirements for the capture card.
Some capture cards require special cabling, settings, and drivers to enable audio playback. For
more information, refer to the documentation for your capture card.
3. Install the recommended installation of QuickTime.
Install or reinstall QuickTime, and select the Recommended or Full installation. The problem can
occur if the Minimum version of QuickTime is installed.
4. Ensure that Adobe Premiere Pro has finished conforming audio.
When you import audio into a project, Adobe Premiere Pro conforms the audio, converting it to
the project's audio sample rate. While Adobe Premiere Pro conforms audio, it may not play
correctly. A status bar in the lower right bottom of the screen displays the progress while Adobe
Premiere Pro conforms audio.
5. Specify a new location for conformed audio files.
If the folder in which a project's conformed audio files are stored is full or inaccessible, Adobe
Premiere Pro returns the error, "Disk Write Error. Verify drive connections, available disk space
and disk access privileges. Then save, close and re-launch the project." If you receive this error,
specify a new location with available space.

To specify a new location for conformed audio files:


1. Find and note the current location of conformed audio files. The default location of conformed
audio files is My Documents/Adobe/Premiere Pro/ [ version number] /Conformed Audio Files.
2. Choose Edit > Preferences > Scratch Disks and then specify a location for Conformed Audio.
3. Save, and close the project.
4. Delete the old Conformed Audio folder.
6. Update the playback settings to play audio on audio hardware.
By default, Adobe Premiere Pro previews audio through the DV device to external speakers only.
If you change the audio playback to Play Audio on Audio Hardware, Adobe Premiere Pro plays
audio through the computer's hardware and speakers.
To update the playback settings to play audio on audio hardware:
1. Choose Project > Project Settings> General.
2. Click Playback Settings.
3. Choose Play Audio on Audio Hardware.
4. Click OK to close the Project Settings dialog box.
7. Update the audio sampling rate of your project to match the audio sampling rate of your
clip.
Clicks or pops may occur during playback if the audio sampling rate of your clip differs from the
audio sampling rate of your project. Create a new Adobe Premiere Pro project with the same
audio sampling rate setting as the media clips, and then import the old Adobe Premiere Pro
project into the new one.
8. If the problem is specific to a clip, test the media file in another application.
Check the media file by playing it in an application such as Windows Media Player outside of
Adobe Premiere Pro. If you can't hear the clip when you use an alternative application, recapture
or replace the clip and test again.
9. If the problem is specific to a track, ensure that the audio is enabled and not muted.

Ensure that the audio has been enabled for the track in the Sequence, and that the track has not
been muted in the Audio Mixer.

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