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06-21-2010, 10:22 PM

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5.4L 3V Spark Plugs Engine Build Dates before 10/09/07

If you haven't seen any threads about changing the spark plugs
myself on the issue, and I figured it was time for a thread that addressed everyo

For those of you wondering why a simple spark plug change gets so much attent
hours of labor and waiting to receive some special tools:

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The culprit is a specially designed spark plug (and the head that recieves it) that
the body of the plug (the broken piece in the above picture). Carbon deposits de
When you remove the plug, the torque breaks the lower piece off. Ford changed
issue. Unfortunately the new plugs require the new heads, and as such are not b

Over the years, Ford has developed a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) to instruct
few times, and has become TSB 08-7-6. Read it in full text with pictures and diag

Dealer's have figured out that the spark plugs break, and you'll find most membe
can see, this is different than the actual Ford "book" values of:
Base spark plug removal: 1.4 hrs Warranty / 2.2 hrs Standard
Broken plug extraction: Actual hours worked
These quotes can range from $270 with no broken plugs, to upward of a grand w

A number of members have followed the TSB and successfully removed and repl
porcelain) on hand. Several companies make the tools: Rotunda (Ford OEM), Sna
The penetrant used to perform the TSB (Motorcraft carb cleaner in the TSB) can

Although I haven't seen any evidence that it definitely works, a lot of guys will us
attempt to remove some of the carbon (I am a Seafoam user).
NOTE, THERE IS SOME CONTROVERSIAL INFO IN THIS SECTION:

Now that all that's out there, on to the replacement plugs. Despite what you'll re
what I've read, the Autolite is the manufacturer for Motorcraft, and are also two

There are two choices for one piece replacement plugs, Champion and Brisk.
Champions claim to be a one piece "improved OEM" replacement, and are double
reports of early fouling with the plugs (this is what I've heard, not personal expe
The Brisk plugs are racing plugs, and while one piece, are not double platinum, m

IMHO SECTION:
I wouldn't rush to change your plugs earlier than the 100k recommended by Ford
preventative type, go for it at 50k, you may spend some more (a set of Motorcra

I personally am using Motorcraft replacement plugs. I trust Motorcraft for its valu
gas tank (in progress) and probably Seafoam the crankcase through the vacuum
8 hours worse case. I'm sure there will be much profanity in the garage, and I'll
Well there you go, I hope this helps explain the basics to those of you that were
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wrong information posted as a response, we can delete it.

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Just for informational purposes Ford does recommend 60,000 plug changes for c

20266 2004-2008 F150/2006-2008 MARK LT/2005-2008 EXPEDITION/N


CONCERNS/VERIFY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE COMPLETE
SOME 2004-2008 F150 / 2006-2008 MARK LT / 2005-2008 EXPEDITION
THAN 60,000 MILES, THAT ARE SUBJECTED TO SPECIAL OPERATING CON
DRIVABILITY CONCERNS UNDER HIGH-LOAD OR WIDE OPEN THROTTLE
AND/OR LOW-SPEED DRIVING FOR LONG DISTANCES AS IN HEAVY COM
LIVERY. BEFORE ATTEMPTING REPAIRS, VERIFY RECOMMENDED 60,000
INCLUDES SPARK PLUG REPLACEMENT. REFER TO TSB 08-07-06 WHICH
REPLACEMENT DOES NOT CORRECT THE CONDITION CONTINUE WITH N

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06-23-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 1997XLT


where do you get the engine build date, is it the same as the sticker inside the
Remember this only affects 04 (non heritage)+ which have the 3 valve version

Per the TSB: The engine build date can be read on the left hand
cam cover information sticker.
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Per the TSB: The engine build date can be read on the left hand
cam cover information sticker.

Thanks. And yea, i know it doesnt affect my '97. Just intersted in knowing be

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so why did it take ford so long to fix this problem and is there any type of recall?
about these plugs I am kinda worried about it I just rolled 90,000 miles so it alm

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so why did it take ford so long to fix this problem and is there any type of reca
reading about these plugs I am kinda worried about it I just rolled 90,000 mile

By the time a company finds out it has a problem like this........ Not noticed unt
issues with plug breakage....... Why would they fix it?
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It would be good to save face... But realize that most of the general buying pub
change- It is not a safety issue- it is not a mechanical issue in the sense that it

It would be like replacing mufflers because they had a batch that would rust ou

A lot of the owners who originally bought these vehicles did not deal with this is

For the most part if it isn't broke- don't fix it- While a design change was neede
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FWIW the Lisle tool is VERY easy to use and after you get the first broken one ou
passenger or the rear on the driver side. After soaking, I had 3 plugs break with t
can tell) the first broken plug took about 15 mins to remove. The other two took
a plug for the one piece motorcraft plugs. If you coat the plug properly with anti-

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My Question is if any of you guys that are having problems with spark
85 also so I was just wondering if that could have a different affect on removing plu
but wondeing if I should go ahead and change them before I get to many more mile

http://www.f150forum.com/f4/5-4l-3v-spark-plugs-engine-build-dates-before-1009-07-a-56871/