Jihadists aren't the enemy?

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GLENN: By the way, counterterrorism czar John Brennan has revealed that we have
a new national strategy.
PAT: That's a good one.
GLENN: It is a good one. Do we have it on audio? Here it is. This is a good one.

BRENNAN: The president's strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face.
Our enemy is not terrorism.
PAT: Nope.
BRENNAN: Because terrorism is but a tactic.
GLENN: Yes.
BRENNAN: Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind and as Americ
ans we refuse to live in fear.
PAT: So there's no terror.
BRENNAN: Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadist.
GLENN: No.
BRENNAN: Or Islamist
PAT: No.
BRENNAN: Because jihad is a holy struggle.
GLENN: A holy struggle.
BRENNAN: A legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself in one's communit
y and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent me
n, women and children.
GLENN: I am so glad —
BRENNAN: Indeed characterizing our adversaries this way would actually be counte
rproductive. It would play into a false perception that they are religious leade
rs defending a holy cause when, in fact, they are nothing more than murderers.
PAT: That's so —
BRENNAN: Including the murder of thousands upon thousands of Muslims.
GLENN: Now, I want him to know that it's good that they are murderers and not te
rrorists.
PAT: Yeah.
GLENN: The tea party members are terrorists.
PAT: Those are terrorists.
GLENN: Those are terrorists. These are just simple unrelated murderers. That's a
ll they are.
BRENNAN: Muslim leaders around the world have spoken out forcefully at great ris
k of their own lives.
PAT: All the time, all the time.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? I am so sick of the Muslim community speaking s
o forcefully! I know!
PAT: Stop it! We heard it a million times! I know!
GLENN: I know, I know! You don't, you don't side with murderers. I know.
PAT: That's why it's so easy to tell. That's why it's so easy to tell the good M
uslims from the not so good ones.
GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on just a second. Did you not hear our new policy?
PAT: Oh, that's right.
GLENN: They are all good Muslims.
PAT: They are all good Muslims.
GLENN: They are all good Muslims.
PAT: We're not at war with anybody but creeps, creeps who kill. It's the war on
creeps who kill.
GLENN: Thank you very much. War, why war?
PAT: It's not war.
GLENN: It's the police action.
PAT: Overseas contingency plan on creeps who kill.
GLENN: Could we add Christian creeps that kill. We could because we don't know f
or sure if they are not Christian. I saw on PBS, and I like this, Tavis Smiley w
ho has a cartoon.
PAT: I thought it was a joke named for him. I thought it was a joke.
GLENN: I was going to say it's a cartoon name: It's the Tavis Smiley show! Good
morning, kids! It's something like, you know, Ren & Stimpy would have put, you k
now, what are you doing? I'm running the Tavis Smiley show! I mean, it's ridicul
ous.
So apparently your taxpayer dollars are going to Tavis Smiley, and he had Ayaan
Hirsi Ali before. Now, I have had Ayaan before. She was the only person that I h
ad on the program that actually had Secret Service agents next to the cameras. I
've had Secret Service agents in the studio.
PAT: There a jihad declared on her?
GLENN: Not a jihad, no. There's no such thing as — jihad is only a —
PAT: That's right.
GLENN: Jihad is only a purification.
PAT: Purification on Islam.
GLENN: Yeah, of one's soul.
STU: A better term might be shenanigans. If you were to use shenanigans, I think
that might be —
GLENN: Oh, yes, they have declared shenanigans on her.
PAT: They have declared shenanigans?
GLENN: Yes, they have.
STU: The war against the creeps with shenanigans is I believe —
GLENN: Yeah. (Laughing).
PAT: It's not a war.
GLENN: The Christians
PAT: It's an overseas contingency plan against creeps with shenanigans.
GLENN: Christian creeps with shenanigans.
STU: Right.
PAT: Okay.
GLENN: So she's the only person that I've ever interviewed that had Secret Servi
ce not just in the room but literally right off each camera.
PAT: Wow.
GLENN: So they were right — they were standing at the camera points. It was amaz
ing. She is in grave, grave, grave danger and she is also not a Christian. She's
an atheist.
PAT: Is she really?
GLENN: Yes. She went from, I think it was Somalia, and from Somalia she left and
her father was sending her to Canada to get married for an arranged marriage. A
nd he told her, if you don't — if you don't show up, if you dishonor the family,
we will hunt you down and we will kill you. Do not bring dishonor on our family
. Well, she got to, where? The Netherlands, and she got off the plane and she to
ok her berka off and she escaped. She then taught herself Dutch. Right? And Engl
ish. And she became a member of the Dutch parliament. I mean, here's a wildly ac
complished woman.
PAT: Yeah.
GLENN: Then in 2004 during our election, her partner, who was making a film on t
his fairytale called Muslim extremism was killed in the street. Not Vincent Van
Gogh. What was his first name?
STU: Theo.
GLENN: Theo Van Gogh. A knife was — he was stabbed, like, I don't know how many
times.
PAT: Oh, that was her —
GLENN: That was her. Her name was stabbed into his chest, okay?
PAT: Wow.
GLENN: She's an amazing woman. Now, she's doing an interview. I don't know why.
I think it might be part of the witness protection program, on Tavis Smiley's sh
ow, on PBS. Your tax dollars are going to pay this man's salary. Listen to what
he says to her.
SMILEY: But Christians do that every single day, in this country.
PAT: He's talking about blowing people up.
SMILEY: But Christians do that every single day, in this country.
ALI: Do they blow people up every single —
SMILEY: Yes, all of the Christians every day. People walk into post office, I me
an —
GLENN: Every day.
SMILEY: People walk into post offices, they walk into schools. That's what Colum
bine I mean, I could do this all day long. There are so many more examples of
Christians — I happen to be a Christian — that's back to this notion of your id
ealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many examples of Chri
stians, Ayaan, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of
Muslims who have done that inside this country where you live and work.
PAT: I can't think of a single instance where a Christian has done that in the n
ame of Christ, in the name of God, in the name of — and then he brings up, he br
ings up the Columbine shooters, Klebold and Harris? They were atheists! Atheists
!
GLENN: They said, are you Christian? Yes! Boom!
PAT: They called — there's a tape of them prior to the, prior to the shooting.
GLENN: No, but he could do this all day.
PAT: Oh, he could do it all day.
GLENN: Every day people —
PAT: Get it wrong all day long, I could lie to you all day.
GLENN: People walk into the post office every day, Christians walk into the post
office and blow up.
PAT: Yeah, and scream in the name of Jesus, and start shooting people? What a mo
ron. There's a tape for Klebold and Harris, the Columbine shooters, where they a
re practicing what they are about to do at Columbine and they are calling their
first victim, who is Rachel, I can't remember her last name, they call her a god
ly little whore and then a whole bunch of other expletives and they talk about h
ow — they are talking about Jesus and they say, go Romans, they are glad he was
crucified. These guys were not Christians. They did not do this in the name of C
hristianity or atheism. They are just psychotic killers, which is what postal wo
rkers have been.
GLENN: I contend, I contend pretty much anybody who kills in the name of God is
psychotic.
PAT: Well, yeah, probably. Probably, but —
GLENN: Probably? Wait a minute. Give me the — wait, wait, give me —
PAT: I'm sure they are but there's also —
GLENN: Give me the exception to that rule. Killing you for God.
STU: Well, isn't that exactly what the State Department guy was just saying, tho
ugh? I mean, he was just saying that it's just, they are just murderers. They ar
e not killing for God. The bottom line is there is a philosophy behind it even t
hough it is more political than it is religious at times. But there is a philoso
phy behind it and it's important to know that.
GLENN: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
STU: But there are psychos obviously.
GLENN: Wait a minute. I'm not saying that you — no, I'm not saying that you can'
t be part of a group that thinks they are killing in the name of God.
STU: Right.
GLENN: But that doesn't make you — for instance, what I was trying to separate w
as that doesn't make you a Christian. That makes you a psycho. However, your sec
t? That is a Christian sect. It's a psycho Christian sect. If they even existed.
I don't know one, but I will tell you this: There is a psycho Muslim sect.
STU: Right. That's why —
GLENN: It's radical Islam, period.
STU: That's why we use that term, that's why that term exists.
GLENN: Exactly right. I mean, we would use something stronger like psycho Muslim
sect if we were being honest. Just like we would use psycho Christian sect if w
e had people who claimed to be Christians going on planes and flying them into b
uildings and blowing people up all around the world.