Emails Containing Pam Poley, MFT CBX Lawyers Assistance Program LAP

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From: Poley, Pam (Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov)

Sent: Wed 6/15/05 2:32 PM
To:
Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)
We are in proceess of moving and will not have internet access until Friday, June
17 at noon. For assistance, please call our LA office at (877) LAP-4-HELP.

Sent: Fri 6/17/05 4:03 PM
To:
zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
Zach,
I only want to confirm w/ Debra that theres a reason for you to be in this program and that it wont be another
exercise in futility. So, the conversation Im planning on having will be one way w/ her talking.
Re: documents, you signed a blank authorization for CBX, no boxes checked to indicate what can be
discussed?????????
You also signed a blank authorization No contact person or what youre limiting the subject to?????
And finally, I received the 2nd page of an Evaluation Plan. Wheres the first page?
Please start at the beginning. Call me and complete a phone intake. I will then provide the necessary
documents. This is only wasting yours and my time.
Pam
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From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:32 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Answers to your recent questions.
Dear Mrs. Poley,
I do not object to your speaking with Mrs. Lawson about anything other than
comments (including questions based on hypothetical situations) that I may have
made to you after being assured they were confidential and privileged.
To address your question of the doctoring of any documents, the agreement was
modified in accord with an agreement Mr. Fishkin made with Janice Thibault.
Please let me know if you are referring to any type of changes that Mr. Fishkin
may have made that are not otherwise part of that agreement with Janice
Thibault.
If you are referring to any such changes, please identify them
specifically, in writing, to both Mr. Fishkin and myself at your earliest convenience.
I left a message for you yesterday, June 14th, 2005, in an attempt to proceed with the LAP's evaluation
pursuant to the Abeyance Agreement. I will try to reach you again today.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
>From: "Poley, Pam" <Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov>

>To: <zachcoughlin@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Returning your call
>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:41:49 -0700
>
>Zach,
>
>I'm not sure about the Evaluation Plan that you signed as that is something that is signed upon
intake. You haven't completed a phone intake yet and we need to do that. Anything that you may have
"doctored" for either the EP or a release is not going to be adequate. Also, I'd like your consent to
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speak to Debra Lawson to make sure this is not a waste of time for either one of us.
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>Thanks
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>Pam
>
> -----Original Message----> From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Mon 6/13/2005 5:46 PM
> To: Poley, Pam
> Cc:
> Subject: Returning your call
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> Hello Mrs. Poley,
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> I am writing to inquire as to the next step in the process of being evaluated by the LAP program. I
will call you on the telephone again, but perhaps we will be able to make some progress via the use of
email. This is a good way to reach me, via this email account. I have sent Mr. Fishkin my signed LAP
forms (including the release and consent agreement and evaluation plan), however, I have another set
of originals that I can send directly to you, if necessary. Please let me know if and where I should sent
these documents.
>
> Also, the release for has a section calling for the names and address of parties who are authorized to
'obtain/disclose' documentation related to my care and or treatment. I did not understand whether I was
to insert the names and address of my care providers in this section so I have left it blank until I receive
further instruction. Please let me know if I need to insert such information.
>
> Thank You,
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> Zach Coughlin, Esq.
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Sent: Mon 6/20/05 4:57 PM
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To:
Zach,
As I indicated to you previously, I need you to complete a phone intake with me. Once done, I will present you
with the necessary documents for signature. You cant sign these documents before youve even entered our
program. I am available at 10:00 am or 2 pm on Wed if you would like to talk then.
Please stop trying to do this your way or your attorneys way. We have a protocol that we need to follow, as
does the CBX. Please let me know if Wed. will work for you.
Pam

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:35 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Signed and completed LAP documents
Dear Pam,
Here are the signed and completed (i.e., with checkmarks next to the types of information subject to
disclosure) documents that LAP provided to me. I am including the originals to you in hard copy and
sending them via U.S. mail as well. They will go out today.
I called and left a voice mail for you one day last week. Your message indicated that you had moved
your office. The address I have listed for you is:
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Lawyers Assistance Program

1451 River Park Dr. Ste 196
Sacramento, CA 95815
Please let me know if I should update your address.
My daytime phone number is 775 348 2667. My cell is 775 338 8118.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Tue 6/21/05 11:49 AM
To:
I will be out of the office on Tuesday, June 21. I will not have internet access
until I return to the office on Wed. I will be checking my phone for messages and
returning any urgent calls at the end of the day.

Sent: Tue 6/21/05 2:11 PM
To:
Do you want to call me or should I call you? If so, which #?
Pam

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:49 AM
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To: Poley, Pam

Subject: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
Dear Pam,
This Wednesday at 10 a.m. will work for me. I'll speak with you tomorrow.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Wed 6/22/05 9:17 AM
To:
Ill call you at 10 then.
Pam

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: RE: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
Dear Pam,
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The 775 348 2667 number would be best. That would be great if you would call me.
Thanks,
Zach Coughlin

>Subject: RE: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
>Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:11:36 -0700
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>Do you want to call me or should I call you? If so, which #?
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>Pam
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>From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: Poley, Pam
>Subject: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
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>Dear Pam,
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>This Wednesday at 10 a.m. will work for me. I'll speak with you
>tomorrow.
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>Thank You,
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>Zach Coughlin
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Sent: Wed 6/22/05 10:04 AM
To:
Zach,
Ive just called this number twice. The first time a woman answered and hung up on me when I asked for you.
The second time, no one answered.
???????????????????????????????
Pam

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: RE: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
Dear Pam,
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The 775 348 2667 number would be best. That would be great if you would call me.
Thanks,
Zach Coughlin

>Subject: RE: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
>Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:11:36 -0700
>
>Do you want to call me or should I call you? If so, which #?
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>Pam
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: Poley, Pam
>Subject: Wednesday Intake at 10 A.M.
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>Dear Pam,
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>This Wednesday at 10 a.m. will work for me. I'll speak with you
>tomorrow.
>
>Thank You,
>
>Zach Coughlin
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Sent: Wed 6/22/05 1:34 PM
To:
5 attachments
Evaluation Plan2.doc (29.0 KB) , ROI - CBX.doc (28.0 KB) , ROI for First Lab.doc
(25.0 KB) , Questionnaire.doc (83.5 KB) , ROI - General.doc (27.0 KB)
Zach,
Attached, please find the necessary documents for your LAP participation. Please sign the documents and return
them to me at:
LAP
Pam Poley, MFT, CADC
1010 Hurley Way, Ste 110
The first document is your Evaluation Plan. I would suggest writing in the number of meetings you are willing to
attend in the blank space (3?). In place of the LAP group, plan on continuing to attend the NV LAP meeting w/
Coe.
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The next document is for the Committee of Bar Examiners (Debra Lawsons office)
The next document is for lab testing. Well discuss the testing procedure when we meet.
The next document is the Questionnaire. Please complete all pages.
The final release is a general release that Ill need you to make copies of. I would like you to sign one for any and
all of your doctors who are prescribing meds, Coe, your attorney and perhaps your mom or dad, whomever would
be able to tell me where you are should you disappear.
Thats it. Ill be out of the office until next week. Please complete these documents ASAP.
Thanks

Case Management Supervisor
Lawyer Assistance Program
1010 Hurley Way, Suite 110
Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
pam.poley@calbar.ca.gov
This e-mail may contain confidential and privileged materials for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any
review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or
authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this
message. Thank you.
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From: Jerome Fishkin (jerome@fishkinlaw.com)

Sent: Wed 6/22/05 4:46 PM
To:
on 6/22/05 2:24 PM, Zach Coughlin at zachcoughlin@hotmail.com wrote:

....During our conversation, Ms. Poley said (and I am not kidding) that she would prefer that you (meaning
Jerry Fishkin) not be invovled in this matter, that she not need to have any contact with you, and that you
were responsible for my case dragging on so long and...Anyway, I'm just keeping you informed because
common sense tells me I should.
Yeah, well, sometimes she does that. And it is best if you communicate directly with her. And common sense
indeed says you should keep me informed. Of course contact me if you have any questions.
Most of my clients have felt ok dealing with her. But her feathers are ruffled. Any time a person does
something different in a bureaucratic setting, you do upset the bureaucrats. Cest la vie. If she does ask
about our communications, tell her that I am your attorney and our communications are privileged and that
you decline to waive the privilege. Then make a record of her request and her response.
Keep in mind that the very first client of mine to go into LAP was anti LAP and told all of them that I
recommended he not go into LAP. Some people realize that my advice to that client was client specific;
others think Im anti LAP.
Cest la vie.
Keep in touch.
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JEROME FISHKIN
Attorney at Law
369 Pine Street, #627, San Francisco CA 94104
phone: 415.403.1300
fax: 415.781.7290
Summaries of recent California attorney conduct case law at FishkinLaw.com
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Sent: Mon 7/04/05 11:57 AM
To:
Our office will be closed on Monday, July 4th in observance of Independence Day. I
will return to the office on Tuesday, July 5th. Please contact your Group
Facilitator if you need assistance.

Sent: Tue 7/05/05 8:59 AM
To:
Thank you. My schedule is no longer going to accommodate a trip to Reno. Hows your schedule look for an
extended phone intake this week?

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:58 AM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Intake documents
Hi Pam,
I am just checking in with you to let you know I have almost completed the intake questionairre and
other documents to sign and will mail them to you this week.
Thanks,
Zach
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Sent: Mon 7/11/05 10:20 AM

To:
I'm in SF all day today so I won't be able to call you today. I realize you won't get this email until a later time.
What is your work schedule next week?
Pam
-----Original Message----From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]

Sent: Sun 7/10/2005 7:29 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Cc:
Subject: RE: Intake documents
Hi Pam,
I am sorry for taking so long to get back to your email. I started a full time job this last week at a retail
men's clothing store and do not have internet at home. I did mail all the documents to you and the one
document to Ms. Lawson. I have the day off tomorrow, Monday and am available all day. I have to work on
Tuesday from 10-7 and talking on the phone at work is not permitted and lunch is only 30 minutes long,
tops. I will keep my cell phone on me tomorrow, Monday, June 11th if you call, 775 338 8118, and I will call
you tomorrow as well.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin

>Subject: RE: Intake documents
>Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:59:19 -0700
>
>Thank you. My schedule is no longer going to accommodate a trip to
>Reno. How's your schedule look for an extended phone intake this week?
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>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: Poley, Pam
>Subject: Intake documents
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>Hi Pam,
>
>I am just checking in with you to let you know I have almost completed
>the intake questionairre and other documents to sign and will mail them
>to you this week.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Zach
>

Sent: Thu 7/14/05 1:23 PM
To:
How about Tues at 9 am? Can I call you on a land line instead since you cell coverage wasn't that great when we
last spoke?

Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 11:33 AM
To: Poley, Pam
Cc:
Subject: RE: Intake documents
Hello Pam,
I am free all day Monday or Tuesday of next week. I am working Wednesday through Saturday.
Please let me know a time that is good for you. Also, I will keep my cell on me and try to answer
it at all times.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin
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Sent: Thu 7/14/05 2:07 PM
To:
How about 1:30?

Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 1:40 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Cc:
Subject: Tuesday conflict
Hello Pam,
I do not have a land line, however, I will look into finding a friend's land line that I could use for
next Tuesday. I'll let you know the number if I can arrange something. I am sorry that I did not
mention this before, however, I have a session scheduled for Tuesday, July 19th at 9:00 a.m. with
my therapist, Oliver Ocskay, Ph.D. It is very difficult to reschedule with Dr. Ocskay. Would it be
possible to conduct our telephone intake at a different hour? My session with Dr. Ocskay on
Tuesday will last 50 minutes.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin
775 338 8118

>Subject: RE: Intake documents
>Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:22:44 -0700
>
>How about Tues at 9 am? Can I call you on a land line instead since you cell coverage wasn't that great
when we last spoke?
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> -----Original Message----> From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 11:33 AM
> To: Poley, Pam
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: Intake documents
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> Hello Pam,
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> I am free all day Monday or Tuesday of next week. I am working Wednesday through Saturday. Please let
me know a time that is good for you. Also, I will keep my cell on me and try to answer it at all times.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Zach Coughlin
>
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Sent: Mon 8/08/05 2:32 PM
To:
Zach,
A couple of questions please. While you touched on your spiritual growth, were you raised attending church or do
you attend church now? If so, which one?
Thats it. I never received your authorization back to speak to Dr. Wong. Im looking forward to meeting you next
week, Aug 18th.

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Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
message. Thank you.

Sent: Mon 8/08/05 2:36 PM
To:
Never mind the question on church. I found the info when I went back through your papers.
Thanks
From: Poley, Pam

Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:32 PM
To: 'zachcoughlin@hotmail.com'
Subject: Questions
Zach,
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A couple of questions please. While you touched on your spiritual growth, were you raised attending church or do
you attend church now? If so, which one?
Thats it. I never received your authorization back to speak to Dr. Wong. Im looking forward to meeting you next
th
week, Aug 18 .

Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
message. Thank you.

Sent: Wed 8/10/05 11:54 AM
To:
Regarding the release for Dr. Wong, please send that back to me or fax (916-564-5214).
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Just bring yourself. Ill see you on the 18 .

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 7:53 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Confirmation of the 18th of Aug. meeting
Hi Pam,
Okay, I will refrain from providing more info on my experiences in a church setting. Also, I look
forward to seeing you on the 18th of August as well. Please let me know if there is anything (ie,
documentation, identification, paperwork, etc.) that I should bring on that date.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Mon 8/22/05 6:10 PM
To:
It is ironic that Pam Poley resents my representation, but then about 20% of the time, I do
get into the face of one or more LAP people. They dont like it. They dont notice the number
of times I encourage my clients to join LAP and cooperate fully.
I dont think that confronting Poley over the attorney issue benefits you, so unless you can
see some benefit to it, I wont say anything. About all you have to do is either say no
comment, or reply that you are comfortable with my representing you. If she pushes you
further than that, ask her to put her concerns in writing.
In the meantime, lets assume that she does not send me copies of anything, and you just
send me copies. PDF or mail or fax; whatever is convenient.
LAP has no control over you once you are admitted. Period. They cannot force you to
continue. My one BIG caveat is, it is really important that you participate in activity or
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activities that keep you sober. Most of my clients are fans of regular AA attendance and
believe that AA (or here, The Other Bar) is the primary pillar of strength towards keeping
them sober.
As for the rest, you are looking at about 6 8 months of participation in LAPs program with
LAPs rules. If you dont, you are likely not going to be admitted in California, at least not
without the liklihood of a formal court battle. So your decision is, go along with the CBX
abeyance and cooperate with LAP for that period of time; or refuse to do so and see what
CBX does; or withdraw your moral character application.
Current California case law says, once there is proof that you have a history of alcoholism, it
is your burden of proof to show that you have it under management and control. California
generally uses a minimum 2 year sobriety rule. While participation in a formal program is
not a legal requirements, it is very very difficult for anyone to prove years of continued
sobriety without a formal program of some sort. Thus, AA or Other Bar or LAP or . . . .
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JEROME FISHKIN
Attorney at Law
phone: 415.403.1300
fax: 415.781.7290

Sent: Thu 8/25/05 6:06 PM
To:

Hi Jerry,
I wanted to be sure to let you know (in case I have not done so yet) that I am now
employed as an attorney in Reno, Nevada at the law firm of Hale Lane
(www.HaleLane.com <http://www.HaleLane.com> ). I will send you a letter
detailing this for the CBX and LAP or can send one directly to them if you want me
to.
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Send me a letter that I can send directly to CBX. You tell LAP directly on
your own.
Also, you should be getting my check any day now, unfortunately I did not get it to
the mailbox soon enough for the Saturday pickup, but it is coming, I promise.
Thank you.
During my evaluation there were a couple things I should note. One, Mrs.
Thibault asked me when the CBX was expecting something from LAP. I told her
that I did not know for sure. She informed me that it was my responsibility to find
out this information and report it to LAP. I plan on doing so, but I expect that the
CBX will not speak to me as I am represented. If it is okay with you, I would like
to see if there is a way that I can do these sorts of things without troubling you or
your staff, ie, the legwork of this case.
CBX expects a report from LAP about your progress, and within six
months of your signing up.
It is generally less time consuming for me to do these things than to tell
you what to look out for. And since I am your attorney, CBX wont deal
with you directly anyhow. I will make a note to write Thibault and tell
her what CBX wants.
Second, in the materials that Poley did provide to Weiner and Otterness was a
printout from my pharmacy showing all my medications for the last six months.
Did I error by providing this? Its gives fairly detailed information on miligrams
and quantities and I am wondering if I should have given a more general
description to them.
The details are fine. CBX wants LAP to evaluate you for sobriety. I
generally do not worry about a prescription drug regimine, where you
have an informed doctor with a reasonable basis for treatment. We
should assume that around the time LAP reports to CBX, we may want a
report from your doctor as to what you take and why. Or, if LAP gets a
report from him, you would ask him to make a copy for me to send to CBX.
I would like to put together a package of all the stuff I have sent Poley (the letters
of rec., attendance at meetings papers, sponsor letter, psychologist reports) and
submit them to Dr. Weiner and N. Otterness, Ph.D. in addition to a copy of the
certificate of mailing/delivery confirmation slip I have from when I sent all of this
documentation to Poley in December 2004. I want to do this just to give the
appearance that I am on top of things and one who dot the "i's" and crosses the
"t's". Please let me know if you are against this. Of course, I would make sure
any communication on my behalf had a very respectful and conservative tone.
Fine with me.
I hope you don't mind, but I had a free password on Westlaw yesterday for the
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day after talking with a representative of West and I gathered some interesting
law reviews that I thought you might appreciate. I hope this doesn't clog up your
inbox. You probably know everything in these law reviews anyway, but I thought
you might get a kick out of them. The articles are pasted back to back in the
attached file on attorney's mental health.
Thanks for the thought. I will print them out and keep them with my LAP
and other drug and alcohol materials
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JEROME FISHKIN
Attorney at Law
phone: 415.403.1300
fax: 415.781.7290

Sent: Mon 8/29/05 3:30 PM
To:
Sure. I imagine the Participation Plans will be typed this week and go out by the end of the week. It shouldnt be
any surprises as to the content as the EC specified everything while you were there.
Pam

To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Questions
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Hello Pam,
I just wanted to ask a quick question. Can you let me know when I might be getting something from
LAP outlining the conditions I need to comply with during the evaluation period? I want to be sure to
do everything that is required and it would help to have something to refer to so I can be sure I am in
compliance.
I appreciate your help in this regard.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Tue 8/30/05 4:13 PM
To:
I confirmed that your PP will go out tomorrow.
Pam

To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Questions
Hello Pam,
I just wanted to ask a quick question. Can you let me know when I might be getting something from
LAP outlining the conditions I need to comply with during the evaluation period? I want to be sure to
do everything that is required and it would help to have something to refer to so I can be sure I am in
compliance.
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I appreciate your help in this regard.

Thank You,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Wed 8/31/05 10:48 AM
To:
Zach,
When you find out how long your abeyance program is, please let us know. If its only going to be for 6 months,
well need to know for scheduling your next EC.
Thanks
Pam

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:45 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: RE: Questions
Thank You Pam,

I appreciate you're taking the time to let me know. I'll keep an eye out for it. I spoke with Jerry Fishkin
in regard to Janice Thibaults instruction that I should inquire with the California Bar as to what and
when they want something from LAP. Jerry is in the process of doing this and we will provide what we
find out as soon as possible.
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Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Wed 8/31/05 5:09 PM
To:
Thanks. Youll meet with the EC on Feb 16, 2006 then.
I put your Participation Plan in the mail today. Upon receipt, you have 5 days to sign it and return it to me in the
SASE.
Pam

Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:42 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Abeyance term
Hi Pam,
My abeyance program is 6 months long, calling for a LAP professional to 'monitor your (my) recovery
from alcohol abuse'.
Thanks,
Zach
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From: zachesqmp3dotkom@hotmail.com
Sent: Mon 12/26/05 1:52 PM
To:
C. Coe Swobe, Esq.

3 Bret Harte Avenue
Reno, NV 89509

Lawyers Assistance Program
December 20, 2005
I have been asked to write a letter for Zachary Coughlin as one who functions in the capacity of a well-being
monitor in and about his practice of law. I have had the opportunity to observe Zachary on a weekly basis since
he moved to Reno in April 2003. My contact with Zachary includes his regular weekly attendance at the State Bar
of Nevadas Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers meeting that I run and coordinate for the State Bar of Nevada.
Other contacts with Zachary include seeing him at various Alcoholics Anonymous meetings around Reno and the
occasional lunch or social interaction. Zachary continues to work diligently on his own recovery and to make
sufficient progress in and about his law practice. I appreciate this opportunity to write about this young mans
recovery and progress.
Sincerely,
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C. Coe Swobe, Esq.

Sent: Tue 1/10/06 11:39 AM
To:
1 attachment
ROI - General.doc (37.0 KB)
Heres the ROI for your new well-being.

Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
message. Thank you.

Sent: Wed 1/25/06 4:37 PM
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To:
Zach,
It does not appear from Dr Wongs limited biography that he is an addictionologist. Physicians who specialize in
addiction medicine can be found on the following website: http://www.csam-asam.org
/find_csam_physicians.vp.html While this contains info on CA docs, there is a link for other states as well.
Here is a perfect example in your area:
Amy Khan, MD, MPH

34 Reservation Road
Reno, NV 89502
Phone: (775) 329-5162 x227 Fax: (775) 785-9160
amy.khan@ihs.gov
Primary Specialty: Addiction Medicine /Family Practice
Second Specialty: Epidemiology
Clinical Specialist Consultant, Indian Health Service, Reno-Sparks Tribal Health Center
Certified by ASAM in 1994
I have contacted Jerry Fishkin a number of times and while he is returning my calls, we appears (?) reluctant to leave any
kind of word on your drug testing on my voicemail. Ive also tried to set up an appointment to speak to him but havent been
successful.
I spoke to your therapist the other day and reviewed your Participation Plan w/ him. He is now aware of what you need to
accomplish to be considered compliant. Perhaps he can help you as well.
I have yet to receive the ROI (release of information) back that I sent to you for your Well Being Monitor. Please decide who
you want to use, sign the form and send it back to me. I will then contact that person and make sure they understand their
role and are an appropriate choice.
Thanks
Pam
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:07 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: a few notes
Thanks Pam,
I appreciate your sending this form and for helping me understand everything that I need to do or
correct in reference to the packet I sent in late December. I am tending to all the matters we discussed
on the phone (Dr. Rasul report, Dr. Wong check for licensure in addictionology, Dr. O'Gara report,
Updated Pharmacy Report with check on best form for production-most official and complete,
well-being monitor report complete with authorization-roi).
Dr. Wong's website page is pasted below. I do not believe it speaks to whether he is licensed in
addictionology. I researched addictionology briefly though and it seems that there might be more than
one licensing body for that field (as is the case with many specialities). Is there a certain body that the
license in addictionology should be from, or is any widely recognized body sufficient? I have several
messages into Dr. Wong's office and some of the addicionology licensing organizations for the purpose
of determining whether Dr. Wong is qualified to submit an addiction evaluation.
I am working diligently on these matters and will have them to you as soon as possible. I apologize for
my confusion and the delay.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin
Dr. Wong's website page is pasted below:
http://www.asanr.com/dyn_news.asp?area=fullNews&newsID=73&iefix=75872440
From: "Poley, Pam" <Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov>
To: <zachcoughlin@hotmail.com>
Subject: ROI
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:37:44 -0800
3/11/2012 5:56 AM

Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
message. Thank you.
><< ROI-General.doc >>

Sent: Thu 2/02/06 7:21 AM
To:
Zach,
I'll look forward to receiving your documents in the next couple of days.
I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of your grandfather and all of the difficulties and
health problems since than.
I, too, have been trying to reach Jerry Fishkin but have been unsuccessful. I have
had 2 women from his office contact me and attempt to speak to me on your
behalf. However, b/c the release you signed is only for Jerry, I refused to speak to
them.
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We have scheduled you to meet with the EC on Feb 16 at 10:45. You will receive
a letter confirming this appointment in the next day or two.
Pam

Sent: Thu 2/2/2006 5:35 AM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Materials to be provided today and tomorrow...
Hello Pam,
I have waited until now to send in the materials required as I have finally received all of the items from
the respective doctors, pharmacy, etc... and will be sending these to you today via fax and priority
mail. I apologize for the delay in providing all of these materials, however, I thought that sending them
all in at once would help avoid any further confusion arising out of my providing the required
materials. I apologize for the delays caused by mydelays or confusion.
I have messages in to several addictionologists in Reno, however, to use my insurance I must procure a
referral from my primary care physician, whom I am scheduled to see tomorrow. I will update you as
soon as I have an appropriate review completed.
Apparently, Jerry Fishkin was in trial for an extended period of time, and is now on vacation, I believe,
so my ability to communicate with counsel has been slowed somewhat, which is not usual at all in my
dealings with Mr. Fishkin's office, i.e., I believe they are quite busy right now. However, I have been
contacted by personnel from the firm and we are getting communications for the attorney client
relationship in order.
However, recently, my Grandfather in Dayton, Ohio passed away and I was unavailable for
communications for an extended period while travelling to and attending my grandfather's funeral in
Dayton, Ohio. This included a day and a half stay at Chicago O'Hare's snow covered airport. Also,
during and following this trip I developed a severe stomach flu and was quite ill for an extended period
of time, thus, I apologize for the delay on my part with respect to delivering the materials discussed in
our last telephone conversation. Please look for these materials today or tomorrow at your
convenience.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin

Subject: RE: a few notes
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:15:00 -0800
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Zach,
Amy Khan, MD, MPH

34 Reservation Road
Reno, NV 89502
Phone: (775) 329-5162 x227 Fax: (775) 785-9160
amy.khan@ihs.gov
successful.
I have yet to receive the ROI (release of information) back that I sent to you for your Well Being Monitor. Please decide
who you want to use, sign the form and send it back to me. I will then contact that person and make sure they understand
their role and are an appropriate choice.
Thanks
Pam
3/11/2012 5:56 AM
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To: Poley, Pam
Thanks Pam,
correct in reference to the packet I sent in late December. I am tending to all the matters we
discussed on the phone (Dr. Rasul report, Dr. Wong check for licensure in addictionology, Dr. O'Gara
report, Updated Pharmacy Report with check on best form for production-most official and complete,
addictionology. I researched addictionology briefly though and it seems that there might be more
than one licensing body for that field (as is the case with many specialities). Is there a certain body
that the license in addictionology should be from, or is any widely recognized body sufficient? I have
several messages into Dr. Wong's office and some of the addicionology licensing organizations for the
purpose of determining whether Dr. Wong is qualified to submit an addiction evaluation.
I am working diligently on these matters and will have them to you as soon as possible. I apologize
for my confusion and the delay.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin
Subject: ROI
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:37:44 -0800
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Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
This e-mail may contain confidential and privileged materials for the sole use of the intended
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Sent: Wed 2/08/06 11:04 AM
To:
I will be out of the office from Feb 6 - 8 attending meetings offsite. I will check
email as I am available. Pleae contact (877) LAP-4-HELP or 877-527-4435 for
assistance.
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Sent: Fri 2/17/06 1:25 PM

To:
Please leave a message for your doctor, to determine if he is certified by a recognized body
to do addiction evaluations. If not, ask him to send a letter that sets forth his qualifications to
do an evaluation.
Prepare a letter to Poley along the following lines; please send me your DRAFT so we can
finalize it. BE sure to check it for factual accuracy. And I may decide its better not to send
it, than to send it. Well talk.
This is a follow up to Thursdays conversation. I first want to confirm that one of my tires
went flat outside of Auburn, which is why I called. I first understood that I was going to be
patched into a meeting by phone, but then LAP decided against it. I did request to be seen
late but I gather that my request was turned down.
It is my understanding that LAP is now going to file a report without the follow up from me. If
that is so, then I will not engage in the follow up. Otherwise, I had understood that there
were two more things LAP wanted. First, you wanted an evaluation from a medical doctor
certified by a recognized body of addiction doctors. I have asked my treating physician, Dr
________________________________ , but he has not gotten back to me. If he is not, I will
look for one. Id appreciate it if you told me the names of recognized organizations, so I
know what to look for.
You also inquired if I had undergone drug or alcohol testing in Nevada. The answer is, no. If
you want me to go get tested, let me know, and I will.
I think that my relationship with LAP has been mutually unsatisfactory since the beginning.
Its obvious that you are unhappy with me. I dont think another six months with LAP, as you
suggested, would do anyone any good. I have been sober since
_________________________________ and I have stayed sober by my Nevada activities,
which include (specify) __________________ . I do not think that its fair for LAP to ask me
to duplicate things I do and document in Nevada.
----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Fishkin & Slatter LLP
A Law Firm Specializing in Attorney Conduct and Professional Responsibility
369 Pine Street, San Francisco CA 94104
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com
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Sent: Thu 3/02/06 9:09 AM
To:
OK. How are you sending the letter? We need to figure out what's going on w/
your case and move forward w/ some action.
Pam
Sent: Wed 3/1/2006 8:09 PM
To: Poley, Pam
Subject: Letter
Hi Pam,
I have touched base with Jerry and we are aiming to have a letter to you by tomorrow.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin

Sent: Mon 3/06/06 2:11 PM
To:
Here pasted below and attached in correct formatting for a letter is the draft to Poley
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I cant open it; please fax or put text inside e-mail

----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com

Sent: Wed 3/15/06 10:40 AM
To:
Coughlin Zach (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)
We have both received Pam Poley's letter of March 8, 2006. Therefore, the project of writing her is now obsolete.
You have two choices as I see them. One is to accept Poley's offer; the second is to deal directly with CBX. They
both have pros and cons.
Your relationship with LAP has been star crossed since the beginning. I doubt that another six months will
accomplish anything for you. However, if you did do another six months, AND if it met with their approval, your
chances of admission would be excellent. IF there were a continuation of problems, your chances of admission
would be slim. Given Poley's comments to you about me, however, I think this option works better if you fire me
(at least for six months!).
I do think that the alternative approach is to provide CBX with a thorough rendition of your sobriety -- a report
from your doctor, copies of your Nevada attendance, letters from people in your AA group, etc. This approach
assumes that CBX would recognize that not everyone benefits from LAP. Also, it gives credence to the argument
that you are sober and staying sober, but that trying to add LAP in California on top of your Nevada work is just
too much. I think there is a reasonable chance that this would work.
There are no guarantees of course. EIther way might work; either way might fail. I am inclined toward the second
approach because it is consistent with your actions, therefore intellectually honest. And I doubt that you plus LAP
works. That goes double if Poley continues to tell you I'm the problem.
I would like to contact CBX and determine what sort of deadline we are under. However, the sooner you get to me,
all of the Nevada information, the faster I can act on your behalf
I will be in the office all day today and Thursday. Feel free to set a specific time for a phone appointment.
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----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com

Sent: Wed 3/15/06 1:15 PM
To:
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On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Zach Coughlin wrote:
ow is Thursday at 2pm for a telephone talk?
O K; please call me then.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com

Sent: Tue 3/21/06 5:04 PM
To:
Yes I have Poley's letter.
Dr Wong hopefully will be more thorough than Dr Rasul, who basically said you're ok without explaining why.
We do get to submit something. We may get to See LAP's report.
On Mar 20, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Zach Coughlin wrote:
Hi Jerry,
Here is a .tiff document file of Rasul's report. I tried faxing it to your office today as well,
but I am emailing just to be double sure. If you cannot open this file, maybe right click and
use "open with" and try different programs, like 'wordpad' or 'fax viewer'.
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I am working on the narrative, Dr. Wong is faxing me his report (and today I spoke with
him and he said he is NOT licensed with any addictionology board. However, he is faxing
a short report just in case its useful. Should I schedule a meeting with a physician who is a
licensed addictionologist and get a report?
Lastly, from your email on the 16th you mentioned needing a copy of Poley's letter, but I
am under the impression you received one and do not need a copy now.
Thanks,
Zach
From: Jerome Fishkin <jerome@fishkinlaw.com>
To: Coughlin Zach <zachcoughlin@hotmail.com>
Subject: CBX and LAP
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:40:15 -0800
Debra Lawson says that you should get a copy of the LAP letter, then we can reply to it. If we don't get a copy of
the LAP letter, she will send us something that tells us what the issues are.
If you get a copy, send me a copy ASAP.
In any event, you are going to send me Dr Ocksay's report; records showing your Nevada participation; and a draft
narrative showing everything LAP asked you to do and how you responded to it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com
<Dr. Rasul Report.tif>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com
From: Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)

Sent: Tue 2/20/07 2:51 PM
To:
Hi Jerry,
Here is something from Pam. I am getting the medical reports to you soon.
Thanks,
Zach
Hello Pam,
I have waited until now to send in the materials required as I have finally received all of the items from the respective
doctors, pharmacy, etc... and will be sending these to you today via fax and priority mail. I apologize for the delay in
providing all of these materials, however, I thought that sending them all in at once would help avoid any further confusion
arising out of my providing the required materials. I apologize for the delays caused by mydelays or confusion.
I have messages in to several addictionologists in Reno, however, to use my insurance I must procure a referral from my
primary care physician, whom I am scheduled to see tomorrow. I will update you as soon as I have an appropriate review
completed.
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Apparently, Jerry Fishkin was in trial for an extended period of time, and is now on vacation, I believe, so my ability to
communicate with counsel has been slowed somewhat, which is not usual at all in my dealings with Mr. Fishkin's office, i.e., I
believe they are quite busy right now. However, I have been contacted by personnel from the firm and we are getting
communications for the attorney client relationship in order.
However, recently, my Grandfather in Dayton, Ohio passed away and I was unavailable for communications for an extended
period while travelling to and attending my grandfather's funeral in Dayton, Ohio. This included a day and a half stay at
Chicago O'Hare's snow covered airport. Also, during and following this trip I developed a severe stomach flu and was quite ill
for an extended period of time, thus, I apologize for the delay on my part with respect to delivering the materials discussed
in our last telephone conversation. Please look for these materials today or tomorrow at your convenience.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin
Subject: RE: a few notes
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:15:00 -0800
Zach,
Amy Khan, MD, MPH

34 Reservation Road
Reno, NV 89502
Phone: (775) 329-5162 x227 Fax: (775) 785-9160
amy.khan@ihs.gov
successful.
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I have yet to receive the ROI (release of information) back that I sent to you for your Well Being Monitor. Please decide who
you want to use, sign the form and send it back to me. I will then contact that person and make sure they understand their
role and are an appropriate choice.
Thanks
Pam

To: Poley, Pam
Thanks Pam,
correct in reference to the packet I sent in late December. I am tending to all the matters we discussed
on the phone (Dr. Rasul report, Dr. Wong check for licensure in addictionology, Dr. O'Gara report,
Updated Pharmacy Report with check on best form for production-most official and complete,
addictionology. I researched addictionology briefly though and it seems that there might be more than
one licensing body for that field (as is the case with many specialities). Is there a certain body that the
license in addictionology should be from, or is any widely recognized body sufficient? I have several
messages into Dr. Wong's office and some of the addicionology licensing organizations for the purpose
of determining whether Dr. Wong is qualified to submit an addiction evaluation.
I am working diligently on these matters and will have them to you as soon as possible. I apologize for
my confusion and the delay.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin
3/11/2012 5:56 AM
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Subject: ROI
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:37:44 -0800

Telephone: (916) 564-5183
Fax: (916) 564-5214
message. Thank you.
HI Jerry,
I wouldlike to take the latter approach, deal directly with CBX. I will get all the materials I have to you by tomorrow. How is
Thursday at 2pm for a telephone talk? Or, just provide a time and I will make it.
Thanks,
Zach
From: Jerome Fishkin <jerome@fishkinlaw.com>
To: Coughlin Zach <zachcoughlin@hotmail.com>
Subject: CBX Response to Poley
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:38:56 -0800
We have both received Pam Poley's letter of March 8, 2006. Therefore, the project of writing her is now obsolete.
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You have two choices as I see them. One is to accept Poley's offer; the second is to deal directly with CBX. They both have pros and
cons.
Your relationship with LAP has been star crossed since the beginning. I doubt that another six months will accomplish anything for
you. However, if you did do another six months, AND if it met with their approval, your chances of admission would be excellent. IF
there were a continuation of problems, your chances of admission would be slim. Given Poley's comments to you about me, however,
I think this option works better if you fire me (at least for six months!).
I do think that the alternative approach is to provide CBX with a thorough rendition of your sobriety -- a report from your doctor,
copies of your Nevada attendance, letters from people in your AA group, etc. This approach assumes that CBX would recognize that
not everyone benefits from LAP. Also, it gives credence to the argument that you are sober and staying sober, but that trying to add
LAP in California on top of your Nevada work is just too much. I think there is a reasonable chance that this would work.
There are no guarantees of course. EIther way might work; either way might fail. I am inclined toward the second approach because
it is consistent with your actions, therefore intellectually honest. And I doubt that you plus LAP works. That goes double if Poley
continues to tell you I'm the problem.
I would like to contact CBX and determine what sort of deadline we are under. However, the sooner you get to me, all of the Nevada
information, the faster I can act on your behalf
I will be in the office all day today and Thursday. Feel free to set a specific time for a phone appointment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------JEROME FISHKIN
Phone 415.403.1300 Fax 415.781.7290
www. FishkinLaw.com
Hello Ms. Poley,

I am writing to seek clarification in regard to some of the instructions I received at the evaluation that took place on August
19th, 2005. Ms. Thibault indicated to me during the evaluation that it was my responsibility to inform LAP of the time or
date at which the California Bar wanted to receive something from LAP.
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I am writing to get clarification in regard to whom I should call or write about this at the California Bar. Further, can you
clarify what it is that the California Bar will be wanting from LAP in the event that I am asked that question. I see in the
Abeyance Agreement that I entered into in July, 2004, that a report is called for from LAP during this period.
I am awaiting a communication from LAP with instructions in regard to the conditions that were discussed at the conlusion of
the evaluation on August 19th. It is dificult to be sure I am complying with these conditions without having something to
refer to other than my recollections of the discussions on August 19th. I recall something being said that required I make an
appointment for testing within 2 weeks of the date of the evaluation, but I am not sure exactly what was it was that I was
required to do and with whom. Could you please confirm that I will be receiving something from LAP setting forth these
conditions?
Can you confirm what you have received from me or my attorney, Jerome Fishkin so far (specifically, whether you have the
status reports from Oliver Ocskay, Ph.D, Letter of Kelly Testolin, Esq. (my AA sponsor for over 2 years), Letter of Coe Swobe,
Esq. (President of the State Bar of Nevada's Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers, Past Employer's Letters of Recommendation, AA
signature pages, Personal Statement regarding my recovery, and anything else)?
I would appreciate it if you could let me know (by email or otherwise) if you have received the release for Dr. Wong and also
whether there is any documentation that I need to submit at this point. I would appreciate your letting me know whether my
application is deficient in any way. My Abeyance Agreement calls for reports from me to LAP. I have sent reports to you,
care of LAP since the July 2004 signing of the Abeyance Agreement and would appreciate your confirming whether you
received these reports and the contents of these reports. Lastly, could you please let me know whether the reports that I
sent are not sufficient, and if so, what I should include in any new reports that I may need to provide. I appreciate your help
in these matters and realize that you must be very busy and I will try to assist you in this process in any way I can.
During the evaluation I mentioned that I did not remember exactly when I last saw my counselor, Oliver Ocskay, Ph.D. I
would like to amend my answer in that my records show I had actually seen Dr. Ocskay within one month of the evaluation
and again had a session with him on August 22nd, 2005. During that session he mentioned to me that he received a voice
mail from you and that he had returned your message and would await further instructions from you. Please let me know if
there is anything I need to do in this regard.
Also, please note that the pages containing signatures of my attendance at LCL and AA meetings in Reno is not an exhaustive
account of all of my attendance at these meetings. Given that I was not required to gather such signatures at that time, I
was merely collecting these pages to aid LAP in its evaluation of my recovery. I do have more pages of signatures which I
will provide to LAP. These pages could not be located prior to the August 19th, 2005 meeting. Further, there have been
many instances where I attended an LCL or AA meeting and did not gather a signature.
Lastly, please note that Mr. Fishkin is still my counsel for this matter.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
Hi Pam,
I only just sent out the release for Dr. Wong. I apologize for taking so long to tend to what to me is an extremely important
matter that I give the highest priority to. It is not a good excuse, but I have just been so overwhelmed with the demands of
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training and adjusting to my new job as a litigation associate in a law firm here in Reno. I look forward to seeing you as well
on August 18th. Could you please let me know if there is anything that I need to bring to this meeting, ie, documentation,
paperwork, identification, etc? Also, please let me know if there is anything that you recommend that I bring.
I really hope you can appreciate that the reluctance you have seen from Jerry and my end really has nothing to do with you.
Indeed, I have great respect and admiration for your abilities as a counselor and for what you can bring to one's recovery.
Several years ago I attended a few LAP meetings in Davis, California, purely out of curiousity in regard to exactly what LAP
involves, and I met with many of the participants afterwards for coffee and conversation and many of these individuals spoke
very highly of you, your professionalism, and your talent for counseling and getting to the heart of the important issues.
The reluctance chiefly stems from the rather dire financial straights I found myself in without a law license in any state (and
fear of the prospect of the fees that may be involved in participating in both LAP and LCL), and from a few somewhat bad
experiences in the past regarding the commentary of others (even where those doing so are merely performing their
professional responsibilities) on the medical conditions and treatment thereof of some of those close to me. Also, while this
may be hard to understand or believe, I experienced concern over the effect on my recovery program that being required to
do anything (attend meetings, random urine testing) would have on my enthusiasm for my recovery program. I feared that I
may experience a dampening of enthusiasm if I began to see recovery as something I was being required to do, rather than a
choice I was making on a daily basis. You have probably come across examples of, or at least literature relating to, this trait
of defiance and resistance to structure in alcoholics and, sometimes, those with ADD/ADHD. Of course, there are many,
many times where I now must follow the structure set forth in various areas of my life, both personal and professional, and I
do so fully. However, to the extent that there is an option relating to whether I will have more structure or less in my life, I
often wish to opt for less structure.
I appreciate that all my little feelings and concerns are not so important (especially given the public policy implications
involved in having unfit individuals practicing this profession), however, but I just wanted to try to explain why this process
has gone on as long, and as slowly as it has. It is important to me to let you know none of that is personal with respect to
you. Further, I can assure you that Jerry Fishkin has never said one negative word about you. Rather, my interactions with
Jerry have been confined to rather dry assesments of the state of the law with respect to individual bar applicants privacy
rights, the LAP, and issues of that sort. Remember, we are lawyers and that type of stuff is nearly irresistable to us to get all
muddled up in!
I'll see you on August 18th.
Thank You,
Zach Coughlin
Hi Mrs. Poley,
Sorry for the confusion. As I wrote in my earlier email:
Zach wrote:
> > Also, the release for has a section calling for the names and address
>of parties who are authorized to 'obtain/disclose' documentation related
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>to my care and or treatment. I did not understand whether I was to

>insert the names and address of my care providers in this section so I
>have left it blank until I receive further instruction. Please let me
>know if I need to insert such information.
Pam Poley wrote:

>
>You also signed a blank authorization - No contact person or what you're
>limiting the subject to?????
I have never filled out these forms before, and as such, I do not fully understand everything they are asking for. Can you tell
me whether your question above, referring to a "blank authorization" is the same section that I was referring to in my
question ( I am pasting a copy of the question from my earlier email above)?
As for the

>Subject: RE: Answers to your recent questions.
>Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:03:04 -0700
>
>Zach,
>
>
>
>I only want to confirm w/ Debra that there's a reason for you to be in
>this program and that it won't be another exercise in futility. So, the
>conversation I'm planning on having will be one way w/ her talking.
>
>
>
>Re: documents, you signed a blank authorization for CBX, no boxes
>checked to indicate what can be discussed?????????
Zach wrote:
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Pam Poley wrote:

>
>You also signed a blank authorization - No contact person or what you're
>limiting the subject to?????
>
>And finally, I received the 2nd page of an Evaluation Plan. Where's the
>first page?
>
>
>
>Please start at the beginning. Call me and complete a phone intake. I
>will then provide the necessary documents. This is only wasting yours
>and my time.
>
>
>
>Pam
>
>
>
>
_____
>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:32 PM
>To: Poley, Pam
>Subject: Answers to your recent questions.
>
>
>
>Dear Mrs. Poley,
>
>
>
>I do not object to your speaking with Mrs. Lawson about anything other
>than comments (including questions based on hypothetical situations)
>that I may have made to you after being assured they were confidential
>and privileged.
>
>
>
>To address your question of the doctoring of any documents, the
>agreement was modified in accord with an agreement Mr. Fishkin made with
>Janice Thibault. Please let me know if you are referring to any type of
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>changes that Mr. Fishkin may have made that are not otherwise part of
>that agreement with Janice Thibault. If you are referring to any such
>changes, please identify them specifically, in writing, to both Mr.
>Fishkin and myself at your earliest convenience.
>
>I left a message for you yesterday, June 14th, 2005, in an attempt to
>proceed with the LAP's evaluation pursuant to the Abeyance Agreement. I
>will try to reach you again today.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Zach Coughlin, Esq.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Poley, Pam" <Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov>
> >To: <zachcoughlin@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: Returning your call
> >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:41:49 -0700
>>
> >Zach,
>>
> >I'm not sure about the Evaluation Plan that you signed as that is
>something that is signed upon intake. You haven't completed a phone
>intake yet and we need to do that. Anything that you may have
>"doctored" for either the EP or a release is not going to be adequate.
>Also, I'd like your consent to speak to Debra Lawson to make sure this
>is not a waste of time for either one of us.
>>
> >Thanks
>>
> >Pam
>>
> > -----Original Message----> > From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Mon 6/13/2005 5:46 PM
> > To: Poley, Pam
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Returning your call
>>
>>
>>
> > Hello Mrs. Poley,
>>
> > I am writing to inquire as to the next step in the process of being
>evaluated by the LAP program. I will call you on the telephone again,
>but perhaps we will be able to make some progress via the use of email.
>This is a good way to reach me, via this email account. I have sent Mr.
>Fishkin my signed LAP forms (including the release and consent agreement
>and evaluation plan), however, I have another set of originals that I
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>can send directly to you, if necessary. Please let me know if and where
>I should sent these documents.
>>
>>
> > Thank You,
>>
> > Zach Coughlin, Esq.
>>
> ><< winmail.dat >>
>
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From: Poley, Pam (Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov)

Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)

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Dear Mrs. Poley,

If you are referring to any such changes, please identify them

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Lawyers Assistance Program

From: Poley, Pam (Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov)

Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)

From: Poley, Pam (Pam.Poley@calbar.ca.gov)

Do you want to call me or should I call you? If so, which #?

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Ill call you at 10 then.

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The next document is the Questionnaire. Please complete all pages.

Pam Poley, MFT, CADC

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From: Jerome Fishkin (jerome@fishkinlaw.com)

Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)

on 6/22/05 2:24 PM, Zach Coughlin at zachcoughlin@hotmail.com wrote:

Summaries of recent California attorney conduct case law at FishkinLaw.com

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How about 1:30?

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Pam Poley, MFT, CADC

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