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Clearly, the whole water issue was a mistake, says
Howlin now.
During the Economic Management Council (EMC)
meeting in November 2014, Howlin says he and Eamon
Gilmore fought trenchantly for charges not to be
introduced until all the metering was completed.
The Labour leader says he didnt want them introduced
until an analysis of cost had been carried out so there
wouldnt be a fear from people.
We should have postponed it, we shouldnt have allowed
for it to go ahead.
Fine Gael were of the view that, no, no, once you started
charging, people would simply accept it.
Howlin admits his party misread the mood of the people
on the water charges issue.
Yes, probably. I think Irish Water became the last straw
for people who were already just hanging on by their
fingernails after going through the worst recession since
Fine Gaels Phil Hogan set sail for Europe (he is currently
the European Commissioner on Agriculture), leaving
Labours then-Minister for the Environment Alan Kelly to
become the poster boy for water charges.
He [Phil] did go to Europe and there were big issues left in
the housing and water area. We tried to do the best that we
could with it and Alan made a decent fist of it.
Despite being out of government now, Labour is still not
budging or distancing themselves from the issue.
So why are they hitching their wagon to Irish Water, which
remains so toxic in the mind of the public? Howlin says he
is not going to go down the road of populism politics.
The one thing we said after the election the populist
thing for us to do and maybe the simplest thing for us to
do is to take the populist line on everything.
But Irish Water wasnt a mistake. I am absolutely
convinced we needed a single national utility to deliver
water.
A sore point
The election is clearly a sore point for Howlin. Adjusting in
his seat and clearing his throat, he says:
I think people were shocked at the scale of the defeat. To
lose 30 seats was shattering.
The party has been licking its wounds over the summer
with Howlin travelling the length and breadth of the
country to meet with constituents and assess the damage.
Politics that is the way the game works out sometimes
and you have to dust yourself off and get on with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdp2pGo4SeE
Deputy Howlin must be joking.His party were
strong defenders of the water charges.Their
Education minister caused havoc in the
sector attempting in particular trying to get
rid of counselling for 2nd level students.Joan
Burton cut disability allowances,job seekers
allowances, the old age pension, electricity
public with?
Labour have the stupidity and the arrogance
to think its also the publics fault they failed?
If only they had that much balls to stand up
instead, to Fine Gael and the EU previously!
No they decided to take a once left-wing
party to the right repeatedly!
Labour talking schite and still spinning their
crap down upon a nation!
The people of Ireland are DAMN RIGHT to
stop listening to their crap. Any person willing
to join Labour is a god-damn fool!
On the last day of the Labour think-in
Brendan Howlin has said that as the party
leader, he would be happy to work with
Fianna Fail if it moved more to the left. Thats
nice isnt it?
Seeing as Labour has been for the last five
years, pushing EU right-wing policies and Fine
Gael right-wing policies how about Labour
try moving to the left where it should always
have been in the first damn place!
Labour hopes to increase its membership
numbers to 8,000. For the moment, I think
they are living in a dream-world of their own
making on this. This is not to say they wont
do it just in order to do it, the amount of PR
spin, the repeated buckets of forthcoming
crap thrown out to achieve it, are going to be
sky high!
Dont forget that Labour too is rejecting the
#Appletax 13 Billion thats owed to the
people while Labour was also party to
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Lots of spin going on today about why water meters are a good idea
and how many leaks they are finding. Apparently, Irish Water has
already identified 20 houses that were using loads and loads of water.
But this is only one million litres a day of water.
That is obviously great, but greater savings, and a lot less aggravation
could have been had by taking much simpler and less expensive
measures in relation to finding leaks, and by using the 600 million euros
to replace water pipes. The 539 million euros being spent on this
metering program is enough to replace thousands of kilometres of
water mains (and incidentally, meter boxes could be inexpensively fitted
at the same time as doing this work).
Most leaks, certainly the massive ones listed above, could be tracked
down by putting bulk meters on the entrance to every street or housing
estate, at a relatively low cost and without half the nonsense.
There is also an issue in relation to whether digging up old pipes to
install water meters is actually causing leaks. Old pipes tend to be brittle
and any manipulation could cause problems. It is hard to quantify how
significant this could be.
It is not that installing meters is a bad idea. It is a good idea. The issue
is that it would make more sense to do the most urgent work first. Some
parts of the water network are in an awful state. That is without even
getting on to talking about the sanitation network, which is equally bad.
It makes sense to fix the worst parts as a matter of urgency, and then fit
water meters as you go along.
Homeowners should certainly be incentivised to conserve. The best
way to do this is to allow low users to opt in to having a water
meter in the short-term.
capacity.
"Anything else would be a conflict of interest," he said.
Mr McNicholas said he is complying with the code of
conduct for Irish Water.
"It removes any perception," he said.
proceedings," it said.
The Labour Party said charges should be retained, with
free allowances and exemptions for low-income
households, families with young children or people with a
disability.
The AAA/PbP said the State should fund services, with
local authorities operating the network.
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Following several complaints from supporters of the Green
Party, let us clarify something.
If you support water charges as they stand (without a
referendum), then you are supporting privatisation of our
water supply.
If you support water charges without protections against
water poverty in place, then you support the targeting of
the poorest in our society.
If you've argued for the continuation of water charges over
the past number of months, then you have supported both
privatisation and water poverty, albeit in some cases
indirectly.
Now if any Political Party has changed their position and
are now saying they oppose water charges without a
referendum, please feel free to contact Right2Water and
let us know. If not, please accept that you are on the
wrong side of history and let's move on.
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Project Eagle was Nama's sale of its entire Northern
Ireland loan book to Cerberus, a New York-based private
equity firm specialising in 'distressed investing'. Also the
name of the multi-headed dog preventing the dead from
leaving the underworld.
The whiff surrounding Project Eagle became an
unignorable stench when BBC's Spotlight programme
aired footage of businessman Frank Cushnahan in a car
park allegedly accepting 40,000 in cash from one of
Northern Ireland's wealthiest people. Mr Cushnahan was a
member of Northern Ireland's Nama committee, and the
gentleman with the money was a Nama borrower.
To make matters worse, the Comptroller and Auditor
General (C&AG) has concluded that Nama sold Project
Eagle for about 190m less than it was worth. So Minister
Noonan is to appear before the Public Accounts
Committee, the Irish Government will likely announce a
formal investigation, the FBI is taking a look, as is the
Northern Ireland Assembly - 190m is a chunk of cash, so
all good so far.
But what about the 500m in potential tax avoidance?
Cerberus's Promontoria Eagle Limited, is the Irish Section
110 company that houses Project Eagle. It paid 1.2bn for
loans with a par value of 4.6bn. The 2014 accounts show
this 1.2bn coming from loans from a Japanese and an
Austrian bank, and from 439m of Cerberus's own funds.
It's structured as 'internal' loans from a Cerberus entity in
Earlier:
Water charges are unlikely to be reintroduced, the leader of
Fianna Fil has declared, ahead of a special commission
deciding on the future of water services and how they should
be funded, writes Juno McEnroe, Political Correspondent.
Michel Martin also confirmed that his party will not back a
Sinn Fin motion in the Dil next week to abolish water
charges, even though Fianna Fil ultimately wants to scrap
bills for households.
Fianna Fil leader Michel Martin addresses the media prior to the annual
parliamentary party think-in at the Seven Oaks Hotel, Carlow. He confirmed
his party will not support a Dil motion by Sinn Fin next week to abolish
water charges. Picture: Conor McCabe
He said the confidence and supply deal with Fine Gael had
essentially got rid of water charges.
The only way that water charges can be reintroduced is via
legislation by this Dil and that is unlikely given the
configuration of parties within the Dil, he said.
More than 90 TDs were elected to the Dil this year on
promises to reform or abolish charges.
Fianna Fil, which supported the Government on the basis
that bills were frozen, has told the commission charges should
be abolished. The party rejects claims it has done a U-turn, in
the event of a snap election being called.
Mr Martin said Fianna Fil would remain faithful to the
commission and there would not have been a government
without it being set up.
However, he agreed that, regardless of the outcome of the
commission, water charges were unlikely to be reintroduced.
Mr Martin was asked whether he thought the charges would
be abolished.
I do, but there are other wider issues besides just charges
which fall to be considered, he said.
He accused Sinn Fin, who are set to introduce a bill to scrap
charges in the Dil next week, of playacting in relation to
their motion.
Motions on their own cannot get rid of charges, only
legislation can, he said.
Sinn Fin says its motion presents Fianna Fil with an
opportunity to stop flip-flopping on the issue.
MEP Lynn Boylan said: The reality is we do not have to wait
nine months for a so-called expert commission to recommend
the scrapping of water charges.
The Dil can vote in favour of abolition as early as next week
and, in doing so, deliver what people actually voted for at the
Michel Martin also confirmed that his party will not back a
Sinn Fin motion in the Dil next week to abolish water
charges, even though Fianna Fil ultimately wants to scrap
bills for households.
He outlined how his party had effectively delivered the
end to water charges after bills were frozen under the
confidence and supply deal with the Fine Gael-minority
government.
A government-appointed commission on water charges is
due to produce a report on the future of managing
services in November, after which an Oireachtas
committee will examine the issue and the Dil may act on
it.
Mr Martin said charges, currently frozen, were ultimately
unlikely to be reintroduced.
He said no Dil motion could scrap water charges and that
only a Dil money bill could abolish bills.
He said the confidence and supply deal with Fine Gael
had essentially got rid of water charges.
The only way that water charges can be reintroduced is
via legislation by this Dil and that is unlikely given the
configuration of parties within the Dil, he said.
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All of you making fun of Jack Chambers for still living at
home, but I bet his underwear and socks are FAR cleaner
than yours.
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25 year olds not entitled to full jobseekers & 25 year olds
who live with their ma given seats in parliament. 'millennial'
is not a thing.
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parents? just cos he is a TD? That's mad stuff Ted.
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Water charges have been suspended by the Government,
pending the outcome of an expert commission.
Organisers of today's march, Right 2 Water say it is also in
protest at the Government's decision to appeal the EU's
ruling on Apple's 13bn tax bill.
http://www3.todayfm.co
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Sinn Fin says only consigning water charges to the rubbish
bin will be acceptable.
The party tonight passed a motion calling for the abolition of
Irish Water and the establishment of a commission to come up
with the best model of public ownership within nine months.
The party has vowed to continue the fight against water
charges if Fine Gael and Fianna Fil reach a compromise that
will see charges remain.
"Sinn Fin from this ard fheis repeats our call for the full
abolition of water charges," said Deputy leader Mary Lou
McDonald.
"Nothing less, no half measures, no convenient fig-leaves will
do."
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seems.
But they dont want us leading opposition either.
The bottom line is they just dont want us about the place.
The news for them is that we are here, here to stay, Sinn Fin
is not going away.
Sinn Fin is the leader of opposition to bad government.
Sinn Fin will challenge Fine Gael/Fianna Fil every time they
try to short change the Irish people.
Sinn Fein from this Ard Fheis repeats our call for the full
abolition of water charges, nothing less, no half measures, no
convenient fig leaves will do.
We want to be and we will be part of a government that
champions the people.
We will face the challenge of government when it is afforded to
us by the people with energy and integrity.
We are ambitious for Ireland, optimistic for our country, we
understand the challenges that face workers, families and
communities across the land.
We seek to build our mandate and support from every person
who believes that Ireland can be a better place, that we can
achieve the Republic.
In the spirit of the Rebels a century ago, we meet here in full
confidence of victory."
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Finance Minister Michael Noonan. Photo: Tom Burke
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Its also the publics fault Labour failed so says Leader Brendan
Howlin.
In the daily Fine Gael newsletter, formally called the Irish Independent,
Howlin said his partys disastrous election happened in part because
many Irish people had stopped listening to Labour.
Who can blame people for turning off from Labour, with all the crap
they have pulled and continue to pull including matters related to
#AppleTax, bullied in water meters and Irish Water recharging never
mind the 64 BILLION bank debt they also slapped the public with?
Labour have the stupidity and the arrogance to think its also the publics
fault they failed?
If only they had that much balls to stand up instead, to Fine Gael and
the EU previously! No they decided to take a once left-wing party to
the right repeatedly!
Labour talking schite and still spinning their crap down upon a
nation!
The people of Ireland are DAMN RIGHT to stop listening to their crap.
Any person willing to join Labour is a god-damn fool!
On the last day of the Labour think-in Brendan Howlin has said that as
the party leader, he would be happy to work with Fianna Fail if it moved
more to the left. Thats nice isnt it?
Seeing as Labour has been for the last five years, pushing EU right-wing
policies and Fine Gael right-wing policies how about Labour try
moving to the left where it should always have been in the first damn
place!
Labour hopes to increase its membership numbers to 8,000. For the
moment, I think they are living in a dream-world of their own making
on this. This is not to say they wont do it just in order to do it, the
amount of PR spin, the repeated buckets of forthcoming crap thrown
out to achieve it, are going to be sky high!
Dont forget that Labour too is rejecting the #Appletax 13 Billion thats
owed to the people while Labour was also party to ramming on
people, a 64 Billion bank debt that civilians had NO part in creating in
the first place.
Like other parties, Labour too seems to think we are all beneath them
and complete thick! They are sure treating us this way? How? Well
Howlins latest statement is that he believes a free water allowance
should be given to families, with charges for any excess used (same
thinking as Green Party, also supporting the multiple recharge racket!).
Hang on though If memory serves me right and Im not going senile,
when the Irish Water racket was first started, FG and Labour stated the
people would get a water allowance but then they sneakily withdrew it
without any public announcement! Now Labour is not only u-turning
again but trying on the same PR stunt allowance once more!
(NOTE: In order to get this allowance, you will of course, have to
register with Irish Water, enter into a legal contract, sign your name
thus giving Irish Water your legal recognition of them thus allow them
to recharge you and admit against yourself that you are liable for this
recharge!)
Just how thick do they think we, the public, are?
Its just one more OLD POLITICS sly stunt, one after another. Labour
admits they made mistakes in the past? They are STILL making them
and we are STILL seeing them!
They havent changed much at all. Just the PR crap is being reworded or
regurgitated!
Labour members and supporters can go away! My feelings have not
changed there either
Its also the publics fault Labour failed so says Leader Brendan
Howlin.
In the daily Fine Gael newsletter, formally called the Irish Independent,
Howlin said his partys disastrous election happened in part because
many Irish people had stopped listening to Labour.
Who can blame people for turning off from Labour, with all the crap
they have pulled and continue to pull including matters related to
#AppleTax, bullied in water meters and Irish Water recharging never
mind the 64 BILLION bank debt they also slapped the public with?
Labour have the stupidity and the arrogance to think its also the publics
fault they failed?
If only they had that much balls to stand up instead, to Fine Gael and
the EU previously! No they decided to take a once left-wing party to
that his party is still relevant. Burton / Gilmore & his tiny self have
cannibalised their party. He was all too willing to support FGs agenda
to the detriment of Labour supporters. Water charges is one mistake
among many; far too late now Mr Howlin for contrition. Labour are
dead rip
So basically Labour have learned nothing from their defeat. To use the
old Fianna Fail excuse we made mistakes. Alan Kelly was a fair
reflection of the attitude in the Traitor party. As for misread the mood
Labour were told on a daily bases how the mood was and choose to
ignore it.
All this piece does is show us that even after such an election defeat the
Traitor party still the same party.
Brendan howlin..is there a more arrogant patronising short arsed little
jerk in the whole of Ireland ??? Who voted for this ahole
Politics that is the way the game works out sometimes, sums up all
that is rotten in Irish politics. Playing party politics placing people on
state or semi state boards because they are paid up party member.
Qualifications mean nothing when party leaders want to play games
with peoples futures. This man cant find his way out of a closet, makes
himself leader of labour by default no voting allowed and now must
somehow save labour for a trashing in the next local and European
elections. Here is a man given the Labour Party leadership just to stop
Alan Kelly for totally destroying the party. They failure of the Labour
Party in goverment and how they drenched themselves at every
opportunity in taxpayer money will not be forgotton. These champagne
socialist are back fighting, trying to change history about how they failed
to support workers. From Joan kissing Denniss ring at the NY stock
exchange to kelly loosing it on a power high, who will every forget the
traitors in labour who turned it into the liebour party, a right wing Tory
party who threw away there history for more pensions. As an electorate
we are getting smarter the snake oil salesmens will find it must harder
to keep playing there dangerous games
Fine Gael were of the view that, no, no, once you started charging,
people would simply accept it.
A bit like Enda and FGs lapdog like roll over compliance to Merkel and
the EUs orders. Angela says dont burn the bondholders and Enda says
no problem. EU says shoulder 42% of the burden, Noonan rolls over
immediately. All so they can get a nice big EU job when they have
finished selling out their country.
Just go f##k right off labour..yous are a f##king cancer on
society..mistakes my f$$king arse..yous are not kids but elected
supposedly competent people..you knew f##king only too well what
yous were doing while in government..7 seats for ffs..a message to the
journal please.why are you giving these 7 seater people time ?
In a week where an eighty year old woman dies on a trolley in a corridor
due to overcrowding at Galway hospitals A+E the Mail on Sunday
reveals that the Irish ambassdor to Japan that his apartment in Tokyo
Nah Brendan, dont you worry about the ordinary people. Your hefty
wages and expenses (and pensions) will keep you in smoked salmon and
champagne while the people who trusted you can go to a Labour
sanctioned food bank. Sure Joan loved opening them!
Labour is to all intents and purposes dead. Its few remaining members
are mostly young idealistic uber liberal students. It spectacularly
capitulated to FG once in power. Its elected reps ignored the warning of
its more principled members that it would end in disaster. In fact,
Labour rejoiced in austerity. This was very obvious on the likes of social
media where its fans went all out to attack those who held left wing
positions as populists Alan Kellys victory celebrations were weird,
putting Cahill in the Seanad silly beyond belief. Their move to a new HQ
a complete balls up. As for Irish Water and housing. If you look at
pictures of the Labour think in, theres only ever a handful of people
present. Still they persist in handing front bench jobs to defeated TDs
like Stagg and Tuffy, who were emphatically rejected by the electorate.
They have no appeal to potential new supporters. Cant see any way
back for them.
The singing of traditional Irish songs late into the night has
become the norm at political party think-ins.
They, too, can take hope from the return of the Green
Party to the national political stage which proves that
previous toxicity can fade.
Labours Rocky Road to Dublin still lies ahead but it is one
they can overcome.
http://www.irishexaminer.
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Michel Martins numbers on water charges do not stack
up, but this is not the most important consideration for a
party fighting its way back from the political wilderness,
writes Political Editor Daniel McConnell
power.
It was 2007 and Ahern was chasing his historic third term
in office when all of a sudden he instructed Murphy, as his
speechwriter, to do something odd.
I was surprised when Ahern instructed me to heavily
focus on the environment in drafting his opening address
for the pre-election Fianna Fil ard fheis, says Murphy.
This was hardly the traditional fare for such a speech and
I expressed concerns that the taoiseach might not connect
with the delegates.
Bertie told me he was less worried about those in the
hall and more interested in sending a message to the
Green Party. He told me that he and Seamus Brennan had
been crunching the numbers and they were convinced
that Fianna Fil would need the Greens after the election.
Throughout the subsequent election, Ahern was careful
not to say anything that would exclude the Greens from
his post-election permutations.
In the aftermath of the election, Green Party members
voted overwhelmingly at a special conference to go into
government with Fianna Fil, Murphy says.
Fianna Fil, as we know, went on to steer the economy off
a cliff and, led by Brian Cowen, were booted out of office
in 2011 by a vengeful electorate.
introduced.
Spooked by the emergence of hard-left elements such as
Anti-Austerity Alliance TD Paul Murphy, Fianna Fil, Labour,
and Sinn Fin all saw themselves being outflanked on the
left, and they panicked.
In its general election manifesto, entitled An Ireland for
All, Fianna Fil came out in favour of abolishing Irish
Water and scrapping water charges.
Irish Water has been a complete failure on the part of the
Government, the manifesto went. Since it failed the
Eurostat test, the very reason it was set up, it is incapable
of delivering major investment in our water network.
Instead it is imposing a water charges regime where
families are paying for a service that does not deliver,
operated by a quango that simply is not working. People
should not be expected to pay for a service that is not up
to standard.
It went on to offer up some numbers to back up their case.
According to the Department of the Environment the net
cost of scrapping water charges would be of the order of
210m annually, it read. This would be replaced by a
direct state subvention to the new National Water
Directorate, which will be run at an approximate cost of
16.2m per annum. We would also fully provide for the
costs of winding down Irish Water, at a cost of 9.1m and
39 abolish the governments botched Water Conservation
grant to save the state 110m.
It all sounded good but the only problem is the numbers
are worthless. Bunkum. Nonsense.
We all know the stalemate result of the general election
and the subsequent supply and confidence agreement
done between Fine Gael and Fianna Fil, which saw water
charges suspended for at least nine months, to facilitate a
Commission on the future of water charges.
The truth is that water charges are gone for the forseeable
future and sources have told me that a major restructuring
is already under way within Irish Water on the basis that
domestic charges are not coming back any time soon.
Sarah Bardon.
The party, which has been accused of several U-turns in
this area, says that its submission to the expert
commission should not be seen as setting out a
permanent position.
Such inconsistencies undermine the partys expressions of
having learned the lessons of the past and show it is still
willing to abandon prudence in favour of political
expedience.
But when the polls are rewarding them for such shameless
opportunism, on one level it is hard to argue.
Yet, many parts of this country are still paying the cost for
previous crimes committed by Fianna Fil governments,
and such horrors must not be allowed to slip from the
memories.
The bottom line is that when it comes to Fianna Fils
stance on water charges: Populist? Yes. Credible? No.
Irish Water will get a 660m bailout this year but a
decision to suspend water charges could have big
consequences for funding other services next year, warns
Housing Minister Simon Coveney.
system?
He added: There is a big cost if we decide not to have
revenue stream coming from water provision to domestic
houses. There are big consequences in terms of the flow of
money in and out of government.
Separately, Mr Coveney warned local authorities not to
expect the Government to pick up the tab if they reduce
property taxes next year. Some 16 councils cut rates last
year and 11 had done so this year, he said.
The warning on water was also made by Mr Donohoe,
when he told a separate committee about budget
preparations. Water treatment coming directly from
general taxation would directly compete with other
needs including housing, he said.
http://www.irishexaminer.
com/ireland/irish-waterto-get-660m-bailout422244.html
http://www.irishexaminer.
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Serious questions for DPP raised by Irish Water letter
Worrying indication of private discussions between Irish Water and
DPP
As defendants who are being prosecuted for false imprisonment
The End
Irish Water has pleaded guilty to failing to implement a
plan to improve drinking water quality in Carraroe in Co
Galway and was ordered to give 3,000 to charity to avoid
a criminal conviction.
The company is being prosecuted by the Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) over a delay in completing a 1m
project to deal with a water quality problem in Carraroe.
Earlier this year residents in the Connemara village
received boil water notices.
http://www.irishexaminer.
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on water charges.
During the vote, Sinn Fin tried to alter their
position at the last minute, but did not
receive support and the reference to
charging for water based on use will remain
unchanged in the official text.
Fine Gael MEPs Sen Kelly, Mairead
McGuinness, Brian Hayes and Deirdre Clune
re-iterated their support for water and
sanitation services at affordable prices with
McGuinness saying, The right to water is
absolute. Member States have a duty to
provide safe, affordable water services but in
accordance with the need for local authorities
to maintain and improve water services and
better conserve resources. The United
Nations has recommended that charges be
applied to water services so that authorities
can ensure a quality, sustainable supply.
http://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2014/WaterServicesDoc_2014.p
df
Irish Water has pleaded guilty to failing to implement a
plan to improve drinking water quality in Carraroe, Co
Galway.
without preconditions.
He said: Dublin Bus workers, along with the travelling
public, have been frustrated by the failure of both Dublin
Bus and their shareholder, the Government, to engage
meaningfully to resolve this dispute.
Not only have our members received no wage increase
since 2008, and been denied an agreed wage increase
they have also suffered a deterioration in their working
conditions.
Against that background, our members are determined to
pursue their legitimate claims.
We welcome the WRCs intervention, and look forward to
engaging tomorrow without preconditions.
Siptu's Owen Reidy said: "We understand that the purpose
of this initial meeting is to see whether there is the basis
for a meaningful negotiation between the parties.
"Any decision as to whether the pending strike action by
our members on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week
goes ahead, or is cancelled, will be made by the union
committee based on the progress, or otherwise, at
tomorrow's initial meeting."
Support for the two groups in Government has fallen
slightly over the summer, according to a new opinion poll.
But the first Red C poll of the new term, for tomorrow's
Sunday Business Post, shows support for Fine Gael falling
one point to 25%, while the Independent Alliance also drop
one point to 4%.
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The mood on the street was boyant, with many feeling its a
formality at this stage that water charges will be abolished.
In light of 13 000 000 000 for just two years tax going unpaid
by Apple alone, its criminal to charge the citizenry a THIRD
time to pay for our water. How much other multinationals are
getting away with not paying makes the mind boggle, and this
theme formed the design for my poster.
Stephen Murphy read his verse Before You Push That Chair
which was poignant to many due to having lost freinds as a
result of Austerity, all the while while we afford to bail out
banks and let mega corporations get away tax free.
Speeches were given by all the usual speakers, and as the
crowd drifted away the talk was of if they dont listen this time,
we will be back more forceful next time from one man, and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfVkBh7Sde4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXOeO-uNpQ
this was your mandate, not to tax the IRISH people to death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQrhBIuSCmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsPDF1pv0tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGhvMWEokv0
Frankfurt's Way
Feb 3, 2012
Eamon Gilmore February 3rd 2011
'Frankfurt's way or Labour's way'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpr2zaXvb4M
Sep 8, 2015
Lies and Broken Promises
Special thanks to Damien O'Hare for inspiring me to write this
song
Chorus
Lies and broken promises lie scattered on the stones
Damiens tears rolls down his face for the homeless and alone
He looks around his city and cant believe his eyes
At all the devastation caused by politicians lies
People being evicted thrown out of their homes
Innocent little children carry the lying bankers loans
They knock upon your door when it comes election time
Tell you everything you want to hear the filthy lying swine
Chorus
The slaughter of the Innocents children drown at sea
Lying politicians sixty million refugees
Jobs and schools and hospitals are what the people need
Dropping bombs and firing missiles will never bring the peace
Chorus
You wonder when the first time was that they told their lies
Compromised their principles and took the bribes
Limousines war machines dinner with the Queen
Inflated egos are massaged by deceit lies and greed
Chorus
Robbie Dunn 30/8/2015
Some pictures are google down loads thanks to Damien for his
pics Robbie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSECZHsjBuo
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?
v=FNT_54AYYhY
Irish water is a joke - sending people that know feck all to
answer phone's. I rang as well - Did not even think to record it
but was shocked at how little they could help with my queries.
Any question I asked, I had to be put on hold so they could
confer with a supervisor. I don't blame front line staff
answering the phone as I have worked at a similar position , All
answers are scripted and they are only doing as instructed. I
would love to get my hands on all their recorded phone calls
over the past few months. It would show just how much of a
quango this utility really is. Great vid and well spoken . Also, to
be fair - Data commissioner rep was honest and I think was as
helpful as can be expected. Not paying and never will. No
consent - No contract - Regards.
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Justine McCarthy
September 25 2016, 12:01am,
The Sunday Times
COLIN KEEGAN
IW suspension
Jun 24, 2016
Clare Daly speaking on the latest government attempt to fudge
the Irish Water issue.
True and that's generally how mainstream works, at the same time
the advantage to having something raised in Parliament will
ultimately assist everyone charged. And sure its the TDs job to raise
issues in the dail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7TUiyrXhw&feature=youtu.be
Dublin
Denis Landy: Spokesperson on Local Government
Reform; Spokesperson on Regional Development
Gerald Nash: Spokesperson o
Equality; Spokesperson on Labour Affairs and
Workers Rights
Aodhn Rordin: Spokesperson on Environment
and Sustainable Development, Spokesperson on
Gaeltacht Affairs
down.
Burton told the meeting she would not make a
decision on her future until after the formation of a
government.
www.thejournal.ie
general election.
Three failed election candidates who took part in
yesterdays meeting told TheJournal.ie that there is
consensus that Howlin should be the next leader.
One former TD described him as the logical
choice while another source in yesterdays meeting
said he was the obvious choice.
There is some concern within the party that Burton
will still be the leader if a snap election is called in
the event a government is not formed in the coming
weeks.
If a government isnt formed, is Labour heading into
a snap election with a leader it doesnt want? Joan
would be going into debates with everyone with
their head in their hands, one outgoing senator
said.
Howlin declined to comment on his leadership
intentions when he arrived at Citywest yesterday.
Sam Boal
Sam Boal RollingNews.ie Joan Burton and Brendan Howlin during the
election campaign.
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The picket line at the Broadstone Depot. Photo: Philip
Fitzpatrick/Collins
September 25, 16
7 Ill. 1999).
No Res Judicata
Once the judgement was found to have been rendered without
jurisdiction over the defendants, such judgement was void; it was as
though suit had never been brought and there was no impediment
to bringing the suit where personal jurisdiction over the defendants
could be had; a void judgement amounts to nothing and has no
force as res judicata. Arkansas State Highway Commission v. Coffelt,
301 Ark. 112, 782 S.W.2d 45 (1990).
And we could go on and on stating their own rules and case
precedence. If you have lost your home from the use of the
Jurisdiction of Rateable Value: sue the lending institution, they in
turn will sue the solicitor and the money goes on! And on! And the
insurance company fits the bill or even the Law Society!
We first brought the Jurisdiction (not) of Rateable Value to the notice
of the Circuit Courts, helped win the Justice Murphy ruling on the
Jurisdiction of Rateable Value and then helped the Case Stated;
Justice Hogan. So whats next, our pet hate is; the Eviction Bill.
Watch this space.
So if you did donate to the case stated rest assured that you
partook in giving well over 11 thousand Irish families a bit of a rest
bite, allowed some to retake their homes, some to sue for
damages. Hats off to those that believed in The Hub
Ireland; we are obviously going to go for costs and we will keep you
informed as to how that goes.
Quoting Lord Dennings dictum in the Macfoy V United Africa Co Ltd
(1961) 3 ALL E.R If an act is void, then it is in Law a nully. It is
automatically null and void without more ado, though it is
sometimes convenient to have the Court declare it to be so. And
every proceeding which is founded on it is also bad and incurably
bad. You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stay
there, it will collapse.
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ricing.pdf