After Donald Trump victory

Oregonians, Californians,
Whashingtonians, and other
Snowflakes, whiners and useful
idiots protest, submit ballot
proposal to secede from the union
Chris Matthews on Trump
Protests: What Kind Of Statement
Is There To Make? They Lost.
That's just it: dunderheads and
other anarchists and Democrats
like these think their ideology
should rule above all others.
Democracy be damned, if it isn't
how they define it. Actually,
ridding the USA of the West
Coast's obnoxious ego, stupid
ideas, dope-smoking dullards, and
electoral votes is attractive. But,

for a reality check, read on,

McDufus:
#Calexit: Is it possible for
California (Oregon, Washington,
blah blah blah) to secede from
U.S.
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California is now on the hot seat after many Californians took issue with last
night's outcome, prompting the #Calexit movement.

After Donald Trump was elected as the 45th president of the United States,
many Californians voiced their disapproval calling for California to secede
from the U.S.
In 1961, McDonald County, Missouri existed momentarily and became
McDonald Territory after attempting to secede from the State of Missouri.
Also more recently, a proposed State of Jefferson involving northern
California cities wanted to do the same from California.
So, secession movements are not an unheard-of action in the U.S., but for
California as an entire state is it realistic or possible?
David A. Carrillo, who's the Executive Director of the California Constitution
Center at the University of California, Berkeley Law, discussed if there's
legal basis for this to be accomplished.
"There is no legal basis for a state to secede from the union." Carrillo said.
"The U.S. Constitution (A4s3) has a procedure for adding new states or
subdividing existing states--both require Congress to consent. But there is
no procedure, at all, in the U.S. constitution for a state to secede."
In Texas v. White in 1869, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that
states cannot secede.
California's own Constitution (A3s1) states that, "The State of California is
an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the United States
Constitution is the supreme law of the land."
Carrillo also discussed the probability and previous outcomes from other
states.
"It's extremely unlikely California could secede, legally or otherwise." he
said. "A group of states tried that once. It ended very badly for them."
According to Deborah Hoffman, Deputy Press Secretary of the office of
Governor Jerry Brown, she doubts they will be commenting on this topic at
this moment in time, which is expected because it's something that was
never fully successful in the past.
With that being said, there are movements in motion like the independence
campaign on YesCalifornia.org, petitioning for California to exit the union.
"You will have this historic opportunity because the Yes California
Independence Campaign will qualify a citizens initiative for the 2018 ballot
that if passed would call for a special election for Californians to vote for or

against the independence of California from the United States," according

to the campaign's website.
The public outcry of seceding is not a shock with California and a few other
West Coast states voting blue for Hillary Clinton. So, despite the facts,
expect the discussion to continue especially via social media:
I no longer will refer to myself as an American, I am a Californian. #calexit
white u.s. citizen (@herbivorre) November 9, 2016
California must begin protecting itself now. We cannot live under a Trump
Supreme Court #secede #california
califunia (@GravityisRising) November 9, 2016
#California can #secede right? It can afford it.
Fallenboyscout (@fallenboyscout) November 9, 2016
Can California secede from the United States of America? #electionday
#Elections2016 #california #Secede #brexit
Trevor King (@trevortheking) November 9, 2016
Seriously, California is the 6th largest economy in the world. We pay all of
the bills. It's time to cut off the Midwest. #secede
Michelle Disbrow (@projectcreator) November 9, 2016
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on November 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, updated November 10, 2016 at 3:34
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Two days after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States,
two Portlanders have submitted a petition for a 2018 ballot initiative to have
Oregon secede from the United States.
On Thursday morning, Jennifer Rollins, a lawyer, and Christian Trejbal, a
writer, filed the Oregon Secession Act.
"Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United
States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.
Those values? "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness," Trejbal said, "plus
equality."
"Obviously," he said, the ballot proposal "came about partially in response to
the election results on Tuesday."
"But," he added, "it's been developing over time."

6 maps show what U.S. would look like if West Coast seceded

Tuesday's election has renewed interest in Cascadia and some are calling
for Oregon and California to leave the United States.

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Trejbal said that he and Rollins are hoping to start a serious conversation in
Oregon about what it would mean to peacefully leave the United States.
They opted for 2018 to give Oregonians some time to really think about
what seceding from the union would mean.
Some Californians have already expressed interest in seceding and the
language of the Oregon proposal includes the option to bring other states
into a "Constitutional Convention."
Trejbal said that joining forces with other states like Washington, California
and Nevada is "a viable way to go forward."
These states, he said, "could all get together and form a nation that uphold
the values that we share."
To start the ballot title drafting process, the Oregon Secession Act must
receive 1,000 signatures. Trejbal said he and Rollins would be at Pioneer
Courthouse Square in Portland on Thursday night to begin the process of
getting those signatures.