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2015061515:50:44

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SoI'vegot3ofthesecoinsnow.Theyallweighina41.6grams.Thewritingontherim("IndependenciaY
Libertad")ononeofthemisupsidedownthoughcomparedtotheother2.I'mwonderingifthisisnormalornot.It
seemslikethequalitycontrolofthesecoinsisn'tashighaswithothernationalmintcoinsandnoteverycoinlooks
exactlythesame.Thereseemstobevarianceoneverycoinyousee.Forinstancewhentheystampedthewritingon
therim"IndependenciaYLibertad"onthecoinsit'sinadifferentplaceforall3coins.Whenyoulineupthewriting
withthe3coins,theotherpartsofthecoinsdon'tlineup(andon1ofthecoinsthewritingisupsidedown).
Doesanyoneelsehaveexperiencewiththesecoinsnotbeingexactlyidenticaltoeachother?Iftheyallweighthe
correctamountisthatenoughtoputaperson'smindatease?Thanksmuchforanyhelp.

Whenyoulineuptheletteringontherimlikethis:

Andthenyouunstackthecoins,theyareallfacingdifferentdirectionsorupsidedown.

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2015061516:17:10

dragafem
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forstarters,allshouldbearound37.5grams.canbeabitlessduetoageandwear.youmightwanttoXRFyoursasitis
4gramsoverwhichwouldraiseaflag...
alsocheckthediameter.itshouldbe37mmoraroundthat.36isfine.

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2015061517:25:19

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dragafemwrote:

forstarters,allshouldbearound37.5grams.canbeabitlessduetoageandwear.youmightwanttoXRFyours
asitis4gramsoverwhichwouldraiseaflag...
alsocheckthediameter.itshouldbe37mmoraroundthat.36isfine.
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Thisisincorrect.^

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They*contain*andaremarked37.5Gr.OROPURO.
Howeverthetheyare.9puresothetotalweightis41.6666g.Itis90%goldand10%copper.21.6karat.
Metal
Gold(.900)
Weight
41.6666g
Diameter
37.08mm
Thickness
2.69mm
Nicecoin.likea1Ozora4Ducatithaspresence.IcheckedandtheoneIamholdingisidenticalinorientationto
theoneyouhaveontheright(mine18211947).
Areyoursallthesameyear?Thenonrestrikescanbeworthmore.
Theknownfakesothemarealotlighter23grams.
TheChallengerCollectionMexicanGold,50Pesos

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https://coins.www.collectorssociety.co.aspx?s=23
Thereisa14kcopyweighing31gramsandacompletefakeweighing23g.
"Thedates1921through1931and1944through1947areregularlegaltenderissues,whilethe1943date,alsoknown
as"Tejo",isconsideredabullionissueonwhichthephrase"50Pesos"wasbeenreplacedwithasecond"37.5Gr.Oro
Puro".
Between1949and1972theMexicanMintproduced3,975,654restrikesusingoriginal1947dateddiesandalthough
theyhaveamonetarymarkingof"50Pesos"theyaregenerallyconsideredtobebullionissues.Theoriginalcoins
producedin1947arenotdistinguishablefromthoseproducedasrestrikesinlateryears.
In1996theMexicanMintproducedanestimated300restrikesusingaretooled1947die.Thesearereferredtoas
Specimenstrikesandhaveasemiprooffinish.VerylittleisknownabouttheseSpecimensandtheexactmintagecan
notbefullyverifiedduetoincompleterecordsattheMexicanMint.
Inlate2005orearly2006(stilltryingtoverify)theMexicanMintonceagainbegantoproducethe1947dated50Peso
goldcoins,thistimeusingabrandnewdie.Thesecoinscanbeeasilyidentifiedbytheheavymattefinishthat
distinguishesthemfromtheoriginaldieandspecimendiestrikes.PCGSusesthenewcodeof159793versestheold
codeof526255andtypicallyaddsthecomment"NewDie"tothelabelinserttodistinguishthesefromeachother.The
NGClabeldoesnotdistinguishbetweentheoriginaldiestrikes,originaldierestrikes,orthenewdierestrikes.
Twoproofsareknowntoexist,bothdated1947.Theoneresidinginthiscollectionhasbeenauthenticatedandgraded
byNGC.Ithasfullymirroredfieldswithfrosteddevicesandasuperbcameoappearance.Itisnotknowexactlywhen
orunderwhatcircumstancesthesetwoproofsweremade."
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2015061518:39:01

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#4

Frommemorythisisnormal.
Somecoinsarestucktopandbottomwhileinacollar,thecollarcancontainedgedetailsandifthisisthecasethen
theedgedetailsaregoingtobethesameforeachcoin.
Forothercoinstheedgedetailsareaddedasanextrastageafterthemintingofthefaces,sotheycanbeany
orientation,oroccasionallymissing.
Nowstacking:WorldJunkSilverCoins.
Swapyourolder,worn,dirtyfractionalsilvercoinsforfiat,.999roundsorlegaltender.
Individualcoins,mixedlotsorbulk.
NotlookingforAustralian,bent,holedordamagedcoins,thanks!

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2015061518:42:16

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#5

Thanks,Oldsoul.TheonethatyousayyoursmatchesistheoneIwasworriedaboutmainlybecauseit'smyupside
downcoin.Iguesstheorientationdoesn'tmatter.1ofmycoinsis1946.Theother2(includingtheonethat'slike
yours)are1947.Itseemsiftheweightisspotonthenthecoinisreal,evenifthereissomevariationfromcointo
coin.That'stheassumptionI'mgoingtogoonanyway.

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2015061520:10:18

Oldsoul
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#6

howsaboutthiswrote:

Thanks,Oldsoul.TheonethatyousayyoursmatchesistheoneIwasworriedaboutmainlybecauseit'smy
upsidedowncoin.Iguesstheorientationdoesn'tmatter.1ofmycoinsis1946.Theother2(includingthe
onethat'slikeyours)are1947.Itseemsiftheweightisspotonthenthecoinisreal,evenifthereissome
variationfromcointocoin.That'stheassumptionI'mgoingtogoonanyway.
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Haveahuntforacheapbutdecentdigitalcalipersifyouareputtingthatmoneyongoldcoinsitisworthgetting
one.Itisweight+dimension.
Theylooklikethis
http://www.amazon.com/Neiko01407AExtr367&sr=11

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Cheapandusefulforcoindimensions.
Gladtoherethe1947(probablyarestrike)isthesameone.
Stillrocksasacoin.Ilikehalfsovs,fullsovs,maples,20francs,ducatsyounameit.Butthebig1ozers,4ducats
and50pesosaremoresatisfyingthanthesovsand20francs.
Bewarethatthe.9puritymaymakeitbelowthebullionthresholdfortaxinsomeregimesandcustom/duty.
Coolstackyouhave,verynice.
IhavebeentoldtheoneIwascomparingisanoriginalfrom1947andnotarestrikebutI'msceptical.AsfarasI'm
concerneditisanicebullioncoinandnotanumismaticHerearethemintages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centenario
Hereisapriceguide
http://www.ngccoin.com/priceguide/worlduid8953
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2015061601:20:36

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Thanksaswell,Jislizard.Ilovethesecoins.IgotaCanadianMapleLeaftoo,butitjustdoesn'tcomparetothe
Centenarioinmymind.IlikeacointhatIcanholdwithoutfeelinglikeI'mgettingfingerprintsorscratchesonitor
otherwisemessingitup.TheCentenariohassomehefttoittoo,andbestofallyoucangetthemforafewbucks
overspot!Notsurewhythey'resocheap.MaybesellingthemisdifficultatanLCS?MaybetheAmericanviewson
Mexico(drugs,crime,cheaplymadegoods,illegalimmigrants)extendstotheirgoldaswell?Goldisgoldtome,and
thesecoinshavestoodthetestoftimethusfarwithoutanyissues.

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#8

howsaboutthiswrote:

Thanksaswell,Jislizard.Ilovethesecoins.IgotaCanadianMapleLeaftoo,butitjustdoesn'tcompareto
theCentenarioinmymind.IlikeacointhatIcanholdwithoutfeelinglikeI'mgettingfingerprintsorscratches
onitorotherwisemessingitup.TheCentenariohassomehefttoittoo,andbestofallyoucangetthemfora
fewbucksoverspot!Notsurewhythey'resocheap.MaybesellingthemisdifficultatanLCS?Maybethe
AmericanviewsonMexico(drugs,crime,cheaplymadegoods,illegalimmigrants)extendstotheirgoldas
well?Goldisgoldtome,andthesecoinshavestoodthetestoftimethusfarwithoutanyissues.

The1Ozgoldmapleisaverynicecoin,theleafreallylooksgreatingoldandisverywidelyrecognised.Ihadan'82
.9999.Lostitinaboatingaccident,firstyeartheydid49s.Iloosealotofbullioninboatingaccidents.Needsa
capsulethough...notasplayablewithasa50peso.
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2015071319:38:42

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beautifulgoldcoins.
Ihave1001ozsilverLibertad's19431947Ilovethewaytheyfeelandlook.Theyfeelsubstantial.
WishIhadthatmanyingold......
Ifyournotlivingontheedge,yourtakinguptomuchspace

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