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[Tutorial] How to create a dismounted knight.

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July 04, 2007, 11:20 PM
Veltro
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How to create a dismounted knight.

What i need?
3D PROGRAMS/UTILITIES:
- MilkShape 3D 1.8.1b
http://chumbalum.swissquake.ch/
- Mesh_2_ms3d_beta_0.18.zip
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1276
CODE:
- formatted_modeldb_version2.zip
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1180
..or... (i don't know if the first one link is updated to 1.2 patch)
http://files.filefront.com/battle_mo.../fileinfo.html
3D M2TW VANILLA'S MODELS:

www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?108425-How-to-create-a-dismounted-knight
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- Using Knights of Santiago as example, these 3D models:

C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total
War\data\unit_models\_units\en_lmail_hmail
knights_of_santiago_lod0.mesh
********************************
TUTORIAL FOR BEGINNER USERS TO CREATE

A DISMOUNTED UNIT WITH MILKSHAPE3D:
Now.....to work with MilkShape3D:
Convert knights_of_santiago_lod0.mesh into
knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d with
Mesh_2_ms3d_beta_0.18 utility:
Click on "Proceed"....
...save it as knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d, where .ms3d is of

course the MilkShape3D format, and you'll be ready to work with
MilkShape3D:
Open the converted file knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d with

MilkShape3D program:
Select "Groups" and delete (click on "Delete" button) all the

"heavy lance_x" lines, "heavy lance_1, heavy lance_2, heavy
lance_3 ecc. ecc......all of them!!!!
Now select "sword secondary" lines, the first one:
....and rename them as "primary"....:
...and click on "Rename" button to save you modification.....:
Now in "Comment" (!!!) change "secondary" in "primary"......:
....and click on "Ok" button....:
**************************************************
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!!! REPEAT THIS FOR ALL THE OTHER "SWORD SECONDARY"

LINES........ALL OF THEM !!!
**************************************************
Now, save the new 3D model as

dismounted_knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d........:
......and convert it in mesh format with

Mesh_2_ms3d_beta_0.18:
...click on "Proceed"....:
...and save it as
dismounted_knights_of_santiago_lod0.mesh....:
Repeat this for all the other lods (1, 2 and 3), and your 3D model
will be ready for M2TW, but now you have to code it in
battle_models.modeldb, EDU (export_descr_unit.txt) and EDB
(export_descr_buildings.txt).
Paste it ( as for ALL the other lods) in:
C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total
War\data\unit_models\_units\en_lmail_hmail
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July 12, 2007, 10:10 PM
ME2_junky
Re: How to create a dismounted knight.

Excellent tutorial. Simple to understand & easy programs to get.
Cheers mate.
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Last edited by ME2_junky; July 13, 2007 at 04:33 AM.
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July 15, 2007, 12:11 AM
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Hey, I was wondering how do you get your bones to show like that
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in Ms3d? My bones are circular scribbles shaped like this:
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July 16, 2007, 05:51 PM
secks
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Help! my stupid milkshape 3D wont allow me to save my work
because I'm not registered?
Yet nether are you guys from what I can see in your screenshots.
:< any help?
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July 16, 2007, 05:54 PM
Socal_infidel

Originally Posted by SpaceUnion
Hey, I was wondering how do you get your bones to show like
that in Ms3d? My bones are circular scribbles shaped like this:
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Uncheck, "show skeleton" I believe
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July 16, 2007, 06:49 PM
SpaceUnion

Well that takes it away but I was wondering how do you get the
bones to appear like normal 3D bones (not actual real life shaped
bones mind you hehe), but standard 3D package bones like in his
screenshots.
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July 16, 2007, 07:04 PM
Veltro
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Mmm...i don't remeber now, i need to check with MS3D about
stone.
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About the MS3D (unregistered) problem, you must open files via
MS3D: open the program and after this, your files. If you open them
directly via files, you got that error.
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July 16, 2007, 09:43 PM
secks
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Veltro I tried opening ms3d, then the files and trying to save them
but still same stuff about I need to register!?
When I open direct from files same thing. I cant save anything.
:<
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July 16, 2007, 09:46 PM
SpaceUnion

You probably installed the non-trial version of teh software.
Reinstall it but this time do the 30-day trial one. Then it will work.
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July 16, 2007, 10:23 PM
secks
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Are you guys all using the 30 day trial versions?
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July 16, 2007, 10:29 PM
SpaceUnion

Yes.
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July 16, 2007, 10:50 PM
secks
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I just reinstaled ms3d, and installed the trial version but same
problem. It wont let me save any of my work!
:< Keeps asking me to register i.e buy license
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July 17, 2007, 12:16 AM
SpaceUnion

Perhaps you've already used up your trial time. Have you ever had
Milkshape 3D installed on your comp before?
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July 17, 2007, 12:53 AM
secks
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nope never had it before, ever.
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July 30, 2007, 11:03 PM
allos_autos

I have followed your tutorial to the letter, but I can't get my
dismounted kataphractoi to work properly. They are just
translucent, ghost-like soldiers. I'm just trying to use the normal
texture, but it isn't working. What would do this?
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August 02, 2007, 02:25 PM
Urgo Arthez
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Originally Posted by SpaceUnion
Well that takes it away but I was wondering how do you get the
bones to appear like normal 3D bones (not actual real life
shaped bones mind you hehe), but standard 3D package bones
like in his screenshots.
Start Milkshape 3d
Go to File -> Preferences...
Choose the "Misc" tab
Change "Joint Size" to 0.025 (default is 1.0, but it's a bit to much
for m2tw models
)
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August 16, 2007, 02:06 PM
Csatdi

Originally Posted by secks
I just reinstaled ms3d, and installed the trial version but

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same problem. It wont let me save any of my work!

:< Keeps asking me to register i.e buy license
This happened to me when I opened the mesh by double clicking on

it from 'my computer'. Run Milkshape first and open mesh from its
menu.
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October 03, 2007, 09:44 PM
Nevada

how much costs milkshape and how can i save my new units?
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December 23, 2008, 03:30 AM
Sir_Killalot

Great tutorial, but im really stuck on the comment part. Since the
pics have been removed, do you change seconderyactive 1, or the
sword_primary X?
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February 04, 2009, 08:54 PM
helmersen

Umh.. I cant see the pictures..
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How to create a dismounted knight.

3D M2TW VANILLA'S MODELS:

[Tutorial] How to create a dismounted knight.

- Using Knights of Santiago as example, these 3D models:

TUTORIAL FOR BEGINNER USERS TO CREATE

...save it as knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d, where .ms3d is of

Open the converted file knights_of_santiago_lod0.ms3d with

Select "Groups" and delete (click on "Delete" button) all the

Now select "sword secondary" lines, the first one:

....and rename them as "primary"....:

...and click on "Rename" button to save you modification.....:

Now in "Comment" (!!!) change "secondary" in "primary"......:

....and click on "Ok" button....:

[Tutorial] How to create a dismounted knight.

!!! REPEAT THIS FOR ALL THE OTHER "SWORD SECONDARY"

Now, save the new 3D model as

......and convert it in mesh format with

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