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Furthermore,isthereanyruleforestimationofengineeringmanhourrequiredineachdiscipline?
Electrical,I&C,Civil,Structure,Piping,etc.?
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EngineeringEstimation"norms"arenormallyknownasintellectualpropertyofthevariousCompanies
andarenotavailableotherwiseanotherCompanycouldundercut.Alwaysrememberthefundamental
Rule"ajobtakesaslongasittakes"andthesecondRule"don'ttryandcutcorners".
Anengineeringestimateisasgoodastheguypreparingtheestimate.Ifhehasinsufficient
experiencethentheestimateismorelikeaguesstimate!!!.
Another"goldenRule"isfor"nuclearwork"estimateasforanormaljobthenmultiplytheresultbyat
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AsDSB123pointedout,companiesestimatemanhoursbasedontheirownexperiences.Forinstance
acompanylikePDVSA,Venezuelanoilcompany,hasamanual(ifyouspeakspanishIcouldsentyou
acopy)wherestablishforthetypeofengineeringyouraregoingtodo(Conceptual,Basic,Detail)the
typicaldocumentsanddrawingsrequiredbyeachdiscipline.Withthat,andsomecriteriaofyourown,
suchasdetermininghowmanyProcessFlowDiagrams(PFDs)forinstancemightberequiredtoa
certainjob,youestimatethemanhours.InthecompanywhreIwork,aengineeringconsultant,that
isdonebyseniorengineersofeachdiscipline(Process,Mechanical,Electrical,etc).Youascoordinator
putalthemanhourstogheterandestimatethestaffhourssuchasProjectManager,Engineering
Coordinator,Planner,ContractAdministrator,CostEstimators,etc.Manyofthosearefulltime,some
arepartialtime,asmightbethecaseofcostestiamtor,whichisrequiredonceyouahavesizedthe
mainequipmentorbillofmaterials,dependingofthetypeofengineering.
Otherthingisdeterminethecategoriesofrequiredengineers,basedontheirexperience.Themore
earlystageinengineering,themoreexperiencedengineersyourequired.Forinstance,fora
conceptualengineering,youmightrequiremoreexperiencedengineers,asmoredesigncriteriais
required.Alsoformanhoursestimatesyouhavetousejudgment,asamoreexperiencedengineer
candevelopesometaskmorequicklyandefficientlythatalesexperiencedone,butismorecostly.
Somydearfriend,thereisnotaruleofthumboraclearcutwayofestimatingmanhoursfora
project.Evensomecompaniesestimateengineeringmanhoursbasedonthenumberandtypeof
equipment.AndasDSB123said,youalmostalwaysunderestimate.Worstifyouarecompeting
againstotherengineeringcompanies.
BasedonyourequirementsIpostedthebookEngineering&ConstructionProjectManagementA.
Kerridge(GulfProfessionalPublishing,1986),wherechapters14and15explainedsomemethodology
forestimatingmanhours.
Againgforyourbenefit,Iwillbeuploadinganotherbookwithmoreinformation,butinadifferent
threadtobenefitmorepeople.ThebookisPlanning,EstimatingandControlofChemicalConstruction
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DearGusgon,
Youarerightthemanhoursaretobeconsideredbasedononcepersonalexperiance.Butnotallare
soexperiancedandifpossibleletussharewhateverinfowecanprovidedsothatitcanbecomethe
basisforotherstomaketheirownbenchmarks.
Iwillforsuretrytosharesomeofthematerialsshortlyandrequestalltheforummembers/friends
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DearDSB123
DearGusgon
SomanyThanksfortheexplanations.ButstillIamlookingforsomeinformationtomakemyown
benchmarks,assaidbynpsrinivasarao.
AsIpostedinanotherthread,thebookEngineering&ConstructionProjectManagementwas
interestingtomebutsomecontentsinchapters14and15arenotreadable.
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