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MartynBrysonHeh,wellcuethe"bothsides"apologists,Iguess.It'salways
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MattMaurerIdisagree.Thecentershouldbe"peoplewhoattackotherswhile
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TomasFerraraCueallofthecishetwhitedudeswithhottakesonfeminism.
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MartynBrysonLook,fellas,I'llsaveyouallsometime:
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HollyWilkieSojusttobeclearonthestancewe'retaking:NotAllFeminists,
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MartynBrysonFunnythingthough,there'sthisannoyingwhinethatjustwon't
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TomasFerrara'We'aren'tcollectivelytakingastance.
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TomasFerraraMRAsoftenexistsolelytoexpresssexistshit,I'veneverseen
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MartynBrysonI'mjusttrollingtheshitoutofsomestealthMRAsbecause
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TomasFerraraFeminismhasitsradicalbutthere'seasilyamajorityofgreat
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TomasFerraraHowdidMRAswindupinaJimQoffshoot?
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HollyWilkieYeah,fairenough.Idon'tthinkI'veeverheardaboutMen'sRights
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TomasFerraraIncertaincases,yes?
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TomasFerraraAndalso,goodfeministpracticeakaIntersectionalFeminism
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HollyWilkieYeah,absolutely,andthat'sgreat.Butsomepeopledon'treally
feellikethey'refocusingontherightthingsormakingtherightpoints,orthat
therejustaren'tenoughpeoplewhodocareaboutbothsidesofthings,and
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HollyWilkieSomepeoplemeetahandfulofradicalfeministsanddecidethat
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TomasFerraraIthinkrnfeministsfocusingonminoritiesisn'tunexpectedor
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HollyWilkieBecauselet'sfaceit,thispostisn'tactuallymakinganypoint.It'd
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callingoutthepeopleinthemovementwhodoandsayshittythings,butit's
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HollyWilkieButthenwhynotjustmakeapostgivingyouropinionandasking
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TomasFerraraThere'sasmallsetofMRAsthatidentifythatway
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JamesMansfieldThisiswhatImeanaboutcolouringeveryoneorthe
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HollyWilkieIdisagree.Ithinkpeoplewhohavealreadymadeuptheir
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AlexanderWebsterRobPartingtonyouarentpointtowardsbadmras
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JamesMansfieldGoogleanticircumcisioncampaigns,google
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domesticviolencecampaigns.You'llfindthem?Notalltheir
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TomasFerraraThisiswhygoodfeminismisintersectionalbecause
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TomasFerraraDude,I'mdone,Idon'tengagwewithpeoplewho
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