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A little App to speed up Live 9 [Mac Only]

Discussion in 'Live' started by copylefter, May 5, 2014.

copylefte
r
Producer

Hi all guys and gals

in the last days I saw a whole lot of topics about Live's laziness so
I thought it would've been nice to have a clean solution.
Ableton official forum is flooded with topic by people going nuts with
this crappy feature that came with Live9
(the idea is not crappy at all, the implementation and optimization
surely is)

I hope this can bring some relief to your unbearable pain and
frustration (and mine too)

Just to give you an idea of what's goin on under the hood (I wasn't
even browsing anything at all in Live when I took this screenshot):
(don't mind the 123% on Live.app, it's just cause it uses 100% of a cpu and 23% of
another (or 50% of one and 73% of another, or...well, you got it)

And even after 3minutes I have quitted live the hog is still eating
hard on the cpu:

So I wrote a little automator app for making it easy to kill the

indexing.

It's very simple, double click on it and it will launch

live,
wait for it to instantiate the Indexing process and just
kill it.
When its done it quit so nothing else is run when you work
in Live.
And you're ready to go, Live9 return as fast as Live8 used to be.
If you want indexing back (you really want it?
), just quit Live
and relaunch it with the original Live.app or shortcut like you're
used to.
The Live application can be placed anywhere on your hard disk,

BUT it has to be named "Ableton Live 9 Suite"

(btw it'll be named like that if you didn't changed the name after
installing it).

Don't worry it doesn't do anything obscure, it can't hurt your system,

anyway for who's interested here you can see the scripts:

Scripts

So here we go, grab it here:

http://ul.to/gai7htan
or here:
http://www59.zippyshare.com/v/48479331/file.html
EDIT @ 06 May: Modified script, now it should work in 10.5 and 10.6
too

Hope it can be useful

If you want feel free to share the links elsewhere, just give credits!

copylefter 4 AudioSex

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May 5, 2014

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pilz971
Kapellmeister

Apologies in advance, I really just cannot resist.....

PC PLEASE!?!
(All joking aside, it would be sweet for a PC genius to rig up the same kinda gizmo.) *yes*
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May 5, 2014

copylefte
r
Producer

Pilzy
Pilzy,
finally someone begging for PC on a Mac topic
At least now MacBoys can say they're not the only bitching "*Insert OS name here* pleeeease!"
Just kidding
But sadly I can't do a similar thing for windows I have absolutely no knowledges of "traditional"
coding. (and no windows machine on hand too)
Making such an app is not such a difficult task for a somewhat "power user" on Mac,
automator and AppleScripts are pretty simple to learn, and I don't know if there's such an
option on win side.
Someone may kick in for the PC side, we have some good guys here with great skills
In the meanwhile, you can always manually kill indexing process upon Live launch (but I don't
know if on windows it relaunch when quitted).
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May 5, 2014

arhythmt
ech
Noisemaker

Dang, couldn't get it to launch on 10.6.8

May 5, 2014

One
Reason
Audiosexual

Provide it for PC and Ill be impressed.

May 6, 2014

Catalyst
Audiosexual

That is fucking great man, excellent initiative.

I could write a script to do it for PC but I don't use Ableton and I have not a moment to spare
unfortunately. Sorry.
May 6, 2014

copylefte
r
Producer

arhythmtech said:
Dang, couldn't get it to launch on 10.6.8

Try to download it again from the links in my OP, I modified the script, now it should work
in 10.5.x and 10.6.x as well.
I previously used "exists application process" command that after a quick research seems to
have been introduced in 10.7,
now it's using a different command that should work in every os version.
Please report here if you manage to get it running on 10.6
A note for who's running 10.9 Mavericks:
on first launch it may ask you permission to execute, is something related to

Accessibility Prefs
(wtf thanks god I'm not partially sighted! Why I should give access to Accessibility is
beyond my comprehension)
Anyway it doesn't hurt, so give it permission, a prompt should point you to the
Accessibility preference pane
and ask you to add an exception. Do that once and it won't bother you again.
On any pre-Mavericks OS it will just work without these hassles.
The Mavericks release notes for developers say this:
Accessibility features in OS X Mavericks, including System Events Processes suite, no longer have a single switch to
enable or disable them system-wide (the Enable access for assistive devices checkbox). Applications must now be
individually authorized to use Accessibility using the Security & Privacy preference pane in System Preferences. If an
unauthorized application attempts to use Accessibility, it will fail. The system will present a dialog directing the user
to the appropriate place in System Preferences; once approved, the previously denied feature will work.

I don't have 10.9 installed nor I want to have it, I'm already totally pissed off since I was forced
to use 10.8
cause my beloved SnowLeo doesn't work on my 2012 MBP
Anyway it seems Apple policy of continuous OS updates to force users buy new machines is not
pissing off just me.
(not to talk about shiny new features nobody gives a fuck about...except people used to iOS
maybe...
but you moron I bought a PRO computer to do PRO works, not because I like to have an
overpriced ipad with a keyboard stuck on it)
A quote from the developer of SuperDuper!
......But every OS release presents new challenges, and Mavericks is no exception.
As you may know, our scheduling feature runs a little application called "Copy Job" behind the scenes. Copy Job gets
launched by the system, figures out what the scheduled copy should be, and then launches SuperDuper! to actually
do the copying.
When Copy Job starts, one of the first thing it does is ask the OS whether SuperDuper! is already running. That way,
it knows whether or not it should quit it at the end of a successful backup.
Clickato
expand...
For some reason, in Mavericks, this check (and
second
one that checks whether Growl is running) now
generates a scary security warning that claims Copy Job is trying to strangle kittens or some such
such

Catalyst said:
That is fucking great man, excellent initiative.
I could write a script to do it for PC but I don't use Ableton and I have not a moment to spare unfortunately. Sorry.

Thanks Cat
May 6, 2014

sardoumi
chel
Newbie

@copylefter
Great post ;)
FOR PC USERS NO NEED TO CREATE A SCRIPT:
Open Ableton
Ctrl+Alt+Suppr and kill this motherfu.... Ableton Index.exe process.
Now everything is as smooth as in V8

If you need it again: Restart Ableton Live

May 6, 2014

ArticStor
m
Moderator
Staff Member

sardoumichel said:
@copylefter
Great post ;)
FOR PC USERS NO NEED TO CREATE A SCRIPT:
Open Ableton
Ctrl+Alt+Suppr and kill this motherfu.... Ableton Index.exe process.
Now everything is as smooth as in V8

If you need it again: Restart Ableton Live

Click to expand...

better solution is to remove billion of sample folders and abletin index will stop indexing. the
problem is people having shitloads of samples in their folders.
i limited my samples down to a few folders, scanning took on the 5 years old notebook with
dual core@1GHz only 5 mins to scan, the index file has a size of 30MB.

as you can also around 23k samples.

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May 6, 2014

Ztriumph
Newbie

I'm gonna give this a test! Can't wait to see how performance improves, this has been so
strenuous ! Thank you so much!

May 8, 2014

PiusDohr
mann
Newbie

woks in 10.8.5 also thx mate its really helpful

May 21, 2014

rancidma
nuk
Newbie

Great idea, and just the thing I need. But when launching the Kill Index app in OSX 10.7.5,
Activity Monitor shows Ableton Index is still running at anything up to 99%.
Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance.
M.

Jul 30, 2014

copylefte
r
Producer

The Index process get killed some second after launch, try to check after 15-20 seconds.

Jul 30, 2014

davea
Producer

works perfect here on 10.9.5 & 10.10.2 thanx mate !

Mar 8, 2015

Mynamei
sMud
Newbie

WORKS PERFECT ON YOSEMITE... I got to say.. This thing has revolutionized my entire life and
work flow. I can NOT thank you thank you thank you enough. You're the man Copylefter

May 5, 2015

Cav Emp
Audiosexual

I see that this is an old thread that was revived but...

I like the Indexing app
Takes up little to no CPU on my machine and it makes it so that I can locate any sample pretty
much instantly. It's great for when you move some files around in your library and Live needs to
find them for you.
To each his own. Very cool of copylefter to share his creation with everyone.

May 6, 2015

signalflo
w
Ultrasonic

Sorry to bring back an old topic and if this was already addressed. I have both 32 bit and 64 bit
and when running this script it seems like it only works for the 32 bit version only (could be
that I changed the 64bit version name to "Ableton live 9 suite 64" or something like that). Im
assuming I can just change the script with the 64 bit name right?
Oct 27, 2016

EddieXx
Kapellmeister

maybe im wrong but the index may be using cpu that is available and not competing with any
programs, it may work like ram priorities, may even be indicating a percentage of the currently
USED cpu and not off the cpu capacity
capacity.
how could you otherwise be using 84,2% + 122,5% (?!) as showing in your screenshot?
things may not be just like what they look like
but if you really notice a performance difference, then sure..
Oct 27, 2016

ajuna
Newbie

To prevent starting Index you don't need run any scripts. Select with right mouse click
'Paketinhalt zeigen' or in english Show Content info ? I'm not shure. Change directory to AppResources/Extensions/index and rename Ableton Index to Old_Ableton Index. Ableton ist
starting without Indexing Process. Sorry for my bad english.
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Oct 27, 2016

signalflo
w
Ultrasonic

ajuna said:

To prevent starting Index you don't need run any scripts. Select with right mouse click 'Paketinhalt zeigen' or in
english Show Content info ? I'm not shure. Change directory to App-Resources/Extensions/index and rename
Ableton Index to Old_Ableton Index. Ableton ist starting without Indexing Process. Sorry for my bad english.

Sweet but what if you want Ableton to index sometime and sometimes you don't? Your method
would be extreme tedious. Clicking a icon would be better in my opinion.
Oct 27, 2016

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