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Remarks made on Brahms symphony nr.3 by Jorma Panula on 12-1-09.

bar nr.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

pagenr.
Dover
161
162
162
164
164

1
11/13
A
31/32
36

single f
keep f, not too early dim.
a tempo
compare harmonic structure with 33/34
same tempo

6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

165
166
166
166
166

46
50
50
54
from 53

11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.

166
167
168
169
170
171
172
172
172
173
175
179
182
183
184
185
185
186

57/58
65
69
E
93-98
105
109
116
118
122-123
I
174
192
195
M
212
214
217-218

poco rit.
cb
really break after fourth quarter, some other music
misprint in hb I, slur from third quarter over three quarters, like fg
usually confused, take care of melody, more then the other . hrns very
light in 55
vl I, vla legatissimo
strings only mf
only one forte, 72 piu forte, 75 ff
ff first beat, f second
long dim.
cb octava, with kfg
poco rit, two beats in H, second solo!
three beats
cresc in pk not too much, covers otherwise the last notes in 119
poco rit, like bridge, a tempo 124.
keep tempo
strings f, (see remark 12, change?)
cb down up, more power, take cfg too
the eightnote sequence in vc, vla, vl II is very nice but not heard
vl II not heard, col hb II
hrn III quite high, take care not too loud
hrn IV important entrance, slur to next bar
hrns and trps cut, also in 219, then every bar

29.

186

from 217

ww cut every bar

30.
31.
32.
33.
34.

186
187
187
187
187

219
Andante
4
11
13

clear stacc last note in strings, subdivide

not too slow
echo in strings, also 8
hairpins in cl, but not in 12
connect vla to hb
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35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.
41.
42.
43.
44.
45.
46.
47.
48.
49.
50.

187
188
189
189
189
190
190
190
191
191
192
195
196
197
197
198

48.
49.
50.
51.
52.
53.
54.
55.
56.
57.
58.
59.
60.
61.
62.
63.
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.
71.
72.

198
200
201
201
202
202
202
202
203
203
203
203
207
207
207
207
208
210
211
219
220
221
221
221
221

16
B
37
C
44
52
55
56-57
62
71
E-85
100
F
128
133
Poco
Allegretto
10
38-39
53-57
56-57
59-61
61-65
67-69
70-76
78-86
78-86
82-86
97
149
150
153
154
6
20
35
95
G
116
119-120
130
131

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pp in winds, back to p in 18
different articulation in vla, compared to theme in beginning with cl
cb 8va
sostenuto
strings tied
pralltrill on the beat in vl I
triplet in vla first time
strings, winds separ pp
litlle tenuto on third beat, then go on D
avanti like
beatiful transition
fourth beat sub.pp
sostenuto
not too soft, 130 piu p with more instruments
dont forget envelopes in vl I, II, not in winds
beat whole bar
dim. in this bar, also vc.
envelope missing in vla, compare with vl I
hb is missing dim like fl
fg is missing dim
here play as written, very nice
hb is missing dim.signs again, like fl
again as written
vl I sul La
dim. marks missing in hb, compare with fl, no dim from 81 to 82
same in hrns
same in fg
show hrns, also usually too loud
last eight note in ww short
short in ww too, misprint
third eight note ever short!
ww many times too loud, they also should have pp
last note senza accent.
no gaps
too much cresc. in hrns and strings, ww are covered
in 4 Ungarisch
cantabile f
separate
no gap
tie missing in vc
separate in vc, cb, also next bars in all strings
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73.
74.
75.
76.
77.
78.
79.
80.

222
222
223
235
240
241
243
245

137
141
I
227
O
278
286-288
301

81.
82.
83.
84.

246
246
246
246

303
305
308-309
308

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listen fg, not too loud, otherwise line in cl is disturbed

vl I, II vla, some take separate, I like long
here is marcato
long again trb, vl I, II
keep tempo
here is a little bit slower, before only poco sostenuto
hear the upper strings
div. in vl I, skip last two sixteenth notes, play long notes for melody,
also in vl II
vl I, vc
vla
pizz div
everybody must hear rit in pk.

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