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It is common sense that the performance of any wireless system has a direct relationship with
the RF conditions at the time.To aid with performance analysis then, it is typical to de ne
some ranges of RF measurements that correspond to some typical RF conditions one might
nd themselves in.
The following table represents a good classi cation of RF conditions Vs LTE KPIs
The source of this table is a EUTRAN vendor and has been complied during the RF tuning
process for a major US operator. Of course there are no rules as to how various RF conditions
are classi ed, so di erent tables will exist but to a great extent you can expect them to align.
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RSRP(ReferenceSignalReceivedPower)
RSRQ(ReferenceSignalReceivedQuality)
SINR(SignaltoInterference&NoiseRatio)
You can nd more info about RSRP and RSRQ in our HOT article:RSRP and RSRQ
Measurement in LTE
Instead, in this article we would like to highlight some of question about SINR & RSRQ
relations.
where:
S: indicates the power of measured usable signals. Reference signals (RS) and physical
downlink shared channels (PDSCHs) are mainly involved
I: indicates the average interference power the power of measured signals or
channel interference signals from other cells in the current system
N: indicates background noise, which is related to measurement bandwidths and
receiver noise coe
cients
All quantities are measured over the same bandwidth and normalized to one sub-carrier
bandwidth.
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SINR is a measure of signal quality as well but it is not dened in the 3GPP specs but dened by the UE
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vendor. It is not reported to the network. SINR is used a lot by operators, and the LTE industry in
general, as it better quanties the relationship between RF conditions and Throughput. UEs
typically use SINR to calculate the CQI (Channel Quality Indicator) they report to the network.
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RSSI is de ned as
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where the subscript totindicates that the power is measured over the 12NRE sub-carriers of
the measurement bandwidth.
The total serving cell received power depends on the number of transmitted sub-carriers in
the OFDM symbol carrying R0, and on the number of transmit antennas.
We can model this impact using the per-antenna sub-carrier activity factor x and set
The value of x = 1 indicates full load such that all sub-carriers of one transmit antenna are transmitted for
the OFDM symbol carrying R0. If only RS is transmitted (i.e., unloaded cell) the resulting sub-carrier
activity factors would be x = 1/6 and x = 1/3 for one and two transmit antennas, respectively.
When calculating x for two transmit antennas, one should take into account that REs overlapping with
adjacent antenna RS transmission are muted, and therefore, for example, in a fully loaded 2Tx cell the
scaling factor is x = 5/3, instead of two.
It is assumed that all sub-carriers have the same power, i.e., there is no power boosting for any
channel. Since sub-carrier interference plus noise power is:
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When calculating x for two transmit antennas, one should take into account that REs overlapping
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with adjacent antenna RS transmission are muted, and therefore, for example, in a fully loaded 2Tx
cell the scaling factor is x = 5/3, instead of two
Another problem is the sensitivity of the mapping on RSRQ values. A small change in RSRQ
can result in a very large change in SINR which makes such mapping di
cult to use in
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SINR=X/[(1/12*RSRQ)-X]
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and the max. value of x should be 1.How can it equal to 2,412 in the legend of
plot?
Maurizio La Rocca
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Hi Qing, you are right! Ive just updated the picture and inserted on it the
right value.
So you will see now SINR for 2x, SINR for 4x, and so on.
Please note that this graph is with the assumption of unloaded Cell. This
means that only 2 RE are used in the RB!
Marco
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Hi Maurizio
Very interesting article. There as small error in the plot of SINR vs RSRQ. In the
legend x should be the ratio between used REs and total RBs so it should be less
than 1. Furhtermore the two plots of x=1/4 and x=1/2 are exchanged
Best regards
Marco
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Badri Narayanan
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Hi Marco,
I am doing a capacity simulation with load metric as PRB
Utilization impacting RSRQ which inturns impacts SINR. When i
try to apply this formula of RSRQ to SINR mapping i am not
getting a smooth trendline as shown in the section. More over
with increasing load SINR seems to improve which shouldnt be
the case. Not sure if i am missing anything here.
Regards,
Badri
Maurizio La Rocca
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Hi Badri,
I am Maurizio, not Marco
BTW, It is not totally clear what you write. Could you
kindly provide us more info?
e.g. Could you share your formula and how you build it
up?
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Thx,
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Badri Narayanan
14 July 2016 at 5:28
Hi Maurizio,
Extremely sorry for the mix up of names..,
To be precise i am estimating the SINR from
RSRQ values for Dynamic Load Simulation. The
expectation is RSRQ value varies with DL PRB
load in the cell which will be used for
calculating the value X (from Network
Performance counters). So the ow of
algorithm is
Load Changes -> RSRQ Changes> SINR
Changes > Throughput changes
https://www.media re.com/?njc1pcqjhbbhtix
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S.Badri Narayanan
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Hi Maurizio,
Good day to you. Did you have a chance to look into the data shared. Appreciate
your comments and update if any..,
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Thanks,
S.Badri Narayanan
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Last but not least, please vote this article and Share!!!
Thx,
Maurizio
Badri Narayanan
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Thanks Maurizio. I downloaded the sheet but the formulas are referenced to your
local machine data so i am getting #Ref. Can you pls copy paste the values and if
possible seperate calculations for SISO and MIMO would be of assistance.
Thanks,
S.Badri Narayanan
Maurizio La Rocca
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Hello Badri, I have just upload a new le with better quality. You can nd
it at:
http://www.media re.com/download/ob3nudtvxbw4bek/EstimatedSINR_fromRSR
Rev._2.0_LRS.xlsx
Hani
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Maurizio,
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You are giving detailed and clear answers for everyone. Thank you for that.
My question is, How we can know if there Up-link interference from led ( Physical
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Or lets say is there any way to check the Up-link interference from normal drive
test data ?
Thanks
Hani
Maurizio La Rocca
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About your point, I would like to understand more: are you talking about
interference that network could receive when mobile send data or?
Ben Jones
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So, from your table at the top, excellent has an RSRQ of -10 or better, and a SINR
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of 20 or better but in the calculator excel sheets linked, an RSRQ of -10
corresponds to a SINR of 1.27 for SISO. Even an RSRQ of -3 comes out to a SINR
of ~8.5.
Maurizio La Rocca
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Hi Ben,
maybe it is just our mistake. The table at top of the page is just an
example about a classi cation of RSRP, RSRQ & SINR levels. In fact, you
can de ne such threshold base on your analysis. A good level, could be a
bad one. All depend from the approach that you desire. Naturally TOP &
BOTTOM threshold are xed by technology.
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Hi Maurizio
Thx,
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Maurizio La Rocca
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Hi! The correct formula is the same I indicated before and not the one you
wrote. I think you done a mistake about 12 to 10
BTW, the only thing will change is x. When calculating x for two transmit
antennas, you have ot remember that REs overlapping with adjacent
antenna RS transmission are muted, and therefore, for example, in a fully
loaded 2Tx cell the scaling factor is x = 5/3 (20/12), instead of two.
Stepan K.
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Dear Maurizio,
It seems, that your formula (SINR = SINR(RSRQ)) and the gure contradict the
table that you give in the beginning:
according to your formula SINR(dB) = RSRQ(dB) + a, 10 < a < 15, and according
to the table SINR(dB) = RSRQ(dB) + b, 20 < b < 30.
Stepan K.
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Dear Stepan K,
that Table, as Ive already explained, is just a simple reference table where
you can classi cation of RF conditions Vs LTE KPIs. Furthermore, in the
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Thx,
Maurizio
Stev Aryanto
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Hello,
I have noticed from drive test results that cell will low PRB util will have lot better
SINR compare to high PRB util
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Stev
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Hello Stev,
Drive Tests results from a simulation with some parameters locked or real
Drive Tests on eld?
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Could you kindly share a .csv of data you are talking about? We would like
to look at it. Of course, please put a short comment into it.
Thx!
Erik O
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Maurizio, thanks so much for the detailed analysis. Do you have a source for the
table at the top?
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Hello Maurizio,
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