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20130604,11:57PM

almoqbali36

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DearAll
Iamseekingyouhelp,Ihaveacellhashighdropcallrateandi
triedtoreduceitbutididntsuccess.ihavecangemanythinges
requencyplanisverygood.
ihavechangeRadiolinkTimeout(RLT)from16SACCHto24
SACCH
ihaveChangeAMR_FR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32SACCH
ChangeAMR_HR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32SACCH
changeLINK_ABOUT_TO_FAILfrom4SACCHto8SACCH
changerxlev_access_minfrom6to5(106to105dBm)
changerach_access_level_thresholdfrom0to10(120to110
dBm)
DisableAMR
butstillthereishighdroprate.eventhedrivetestwasverygood.
pleaseiamlookingforhelpifpossible
Rashid

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20130605,12:30AM

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Re:HighDropCallRate
Hello
allyouhavedone,isgoodforpoorradiocondition.Youshouldfind
routecauseofhighdropcall
ForexampleitcouldbeduetoHW,highinterference
IfitispossibleidentifyonwhichTRXhighdropcalloccurs.Ifyou
havenormalfrequencyhoppingyoucandisableitandcheck
throughdrivetesttoseeonwhichTRX(carrier)thereishigh
dropcall.YoucancheckreceivedRxleveloneachTRXandaTRX
mighthavedegradationinoutputpoweraswell
YoucancheckaswellAntennasystem,youmayhaveproblem
withULorVSWR
RegardingRLTyoucanbeaggressiveandputitinhighestvalueto
seewhatistheimpact
cheers
OriginallyPostedbyalmoqbali36

DearAll
Iamseekingyouhelp,Ihaveacellhashighdropcallrateandi
triedtoreduceitbutididntsuccess.ihavecangemanythinges
requencyplanisverygood.
ihavechangeRadiolinkTimeout(RLT)from16SACCHto24
SACCH
ihaveChangeAMR_FR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32
SACCH
ChangeAMR_HR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32SACCH
changeLINK_ABOUT_TO_FAILfrom4SACCHto8SACCH
changerxlev_access_minfrom6to5(106to105dBm)
changerach_access_level_thresholdfrom0to10(120to
110dBm)
DisableAMR
butstillthereishighdroprate.eventhedrivetestwasvery
good.
pleaseiamlookingforhelpifpossible
Rashid

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20130605,01:01AM

electron

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Re:HighDropCallRate
Asarullofthumbbeforeanychangesitisbettertoseethe
reasonofdrop!!Asiseemostproboblyallofurchangeswere
blindwhichwillmakeeverythingmorecomplicated.Inmy
opinionrevertbackeverythingtodefaultandfinddropcallreason
inSTS.Letmegiveyouanexample:
IfitisduetomissedMSCdefinition(IfyouhaveMSCinpool)how
yourchangeswillhelpyou?
Ifyouhavemissingneighburandcausingdropcallhowyour
changeswillhelp?
Doesyourcellisovershooting?
Ingeneralhowmuchisdropcallrate?Maybeitisnormalbutyou
feelitisabnormal!
Whatiscluttertypeandwhatissitetositedistance?(forexample
ifitisservingruralareaandsitetositedistanceishighyoucan
notdomuch)
Ihopethesepointsgiveyousomeideaformoreinvestigation.If
yousharemoreinformationwemayfindtheproblemsomehow.
BR
OriginallyPostedbyalmoqbali36

DearAll
Iamseekingyouhelp,Ihaveacellhashighdropcallrateandi
triedtoreduceitbutididntsuccess.ihavecangemanythinges
requencyplanisverygood.
ihavechangeRadiolinkTimeout(RLT)from16SACCHto24
SACCH
ihaveChangeAMR_FR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32
SACCH
ChangeAMR_HR_LINK_FAILfrom28SACCHto32SACCH
changeLINK_ABOUT_TO_FAILfrom4SACCHto8SACCH
changerxlev_access_minfrom6to5(106to105dBm)
changerach_access_level_thresholdfrom0to10(120to
110dBm)
DisableAMR
butstillthereishighdroprate.eventhedrivetestwasvery
good.
pleaseiamlookingforhelpifpossible
Rashid

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20130605,05:16AM

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almoqbali36

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Re:HighDropCallRate

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Thankyouall
ActuallythesystemisMotorolaBSSandItisconnectedtoHuawei
MSS.
TheDroprateisalmost6%andtotalcallsis600perhour.
I'vecheckedtheHWanditseemsok.ThethingswhichIdidn't
mentionedthereisTCHRFLOSSbutisnotcoveredruralareaand
thenearestsiteis2.5KMandtheisnotovershooting.
UnfortunaitllyIcouldn'tfindtheKPIwhichcalculatetheDropin
eachTRX.Thehandoverisgood
BR
RASHID

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20130605,05:20AM

almoqbali36

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Re:HighDropCallRate

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Iwanttoaddthedropcallratealsoishighfortwosectorsin
samesiteandthereisnoswapfeeder

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20130606,04:04AM

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Re:HighDropCallRate
HiBro
AttachedtoolcanhelpyouforTRX(RTF):PB,IOI,BERandDrop
callanalysis.
PlsaddReputationifitusefulforyou.
CarrierStatistic.rar

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OriginallyPostedbyyellowant2512

HiBro
AttachedtoolcanhelpyouforTRX(RTF):PB,IOI,BERand
Dropcallanalysis.
PlsaddReputationifitusefulforyou.
CarrierStatistic.rar
ThankyouIwilltryitandupdate.

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20130606,01:21PM

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Theattachmentincludesguidedocumentabout:collectrawdata,
andusingtooltoanalysing.

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20130606,04:10PM

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Re:HighDropCallRate
OriginallyPostedbyalmoqbali36

Thankyouall
ActuallythesystemisMotorolaBSSandItisconnectedto
HuaweiMSS.
TheDroprateisalmost6%andtotalcallsis600perhour.
I'vecheckedtheHWanditseemsok.ThethingswhichIdidn't
mentionedthereisTCHRFLOSSbutisnotcoveredruralarea
andthenearestsiteis2.5KMandtheisnotovershooting.
UnfortunaitllyIcouldn'tfindtheKPIwhichcalculatetheDropin
eachTRX.Thehandoverisgood
BR
RASHID

HiRashid,
Idon'tknowhowthethingsarewithMotorolaBSSbutforallother
2GvendorsIhadworkedwithitispossibletochecktheestimated
reasonofthedrops(fore.g.LowDLLevel,LowULLev,PoorDL
Qual,PoorULQual,Transition,Hardwarefail,etc).SoIthinkyour
investigationitisbettertostartfromsuchactionsofcounters
checking,asitwasalreadysuggestedbymr.Babak.Aswellitwill
beusefultotracethiscellandchecktheresultsifMotorola
equipmenthassuchability.YoucanalwayscheckaverageTA
fromtheMRtobesurethatthecellisnotanovershooter.
Hopethiswillhelp.

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20130609,04:04AM

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OriginallyPostedbyyellowant2512

Theattachmentincludesguidedocumentabout:collectraw
data,andusingtooltoanalysing.
ThankyoudearIlikethetool
whatdoesdaySummarydo?alsoHardwareIssuesReports

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