Post #3: Cut to Chase Harvey Clinic, P.C. Janaacy 15 at 1:20pm Let's cut to the chase here. There are tvo possible certifications for NPs. The -C and the -BC. The -C stands. for centfication, The -BC stands for BOARD CERTIFIED. ‘The FNP-C certification is offered by the American Association of Nurse Practitioners. The FNP-BC certification is offered by the American Nurses Credentialing Center. Yes, both credentials indicate that the person isa certified NP. However, the -BC cenification requires ‘more work than the -C certification. And the fact remains that while many NPs have the -C certfication., few have wo NPs certifications. The boarding designation requires more time and effort than the -C certification, While the public may not know this, NPs do. They take the -C certification exam. Tencourage anyone to question what is posted here. I will endeavor to answer reasonable questions because, yes, I like anyone else, do make mistakes. But misunderstanding a post is no justification for unwarranted indignation. Nor is misunderstanding a post justification for misrepresentation, such as accusing Harvey Clinic, P.C. of false advertising. Yes, Harvey Clinic, P.C. is very happy to be able to bring to Harvey a nurse practitioner with many years of experience as well as two NP certifications, of which one is BOARD CERTIFICATION. 7,957 people reached Katie Hawley What I'm really surprised about is that the clinic is arguing. How does this look to their patients? Like Reply» Message * 5 «January 15 at 4:24pm MaryAnn Ferguson If you look further down at some of the articles on this site, you will cringe. Like» Reply» Message > | January 15 at 4:56pm Lori Lott Weoten I was prepared fo take either test and took ANP. You are mistaken. The only difference is a letter. What board is certifying the "BC"? ANCC is not a board, i's a certifying agency who chose to use -BC as their identifying credentials, AANP chose -C. Simple as that. Don't tell me I did less work to ‘obtain that -C. Sounds like your biased to ANCC. What a crock of crap! Like Reply = Message * 6 January 15 at 4:26pm Janie Coleman They both take a board exam. One has BC behind their name, the other has C. No difference in the exams. This person does not know what he/she is talking about!! et January 15 ai dbp svenson The only thing this statement highlights is your prideful ignorance. I looked into both ‘exams, and I took a prep course that is geared toward BOTH exams, because they really aren't so different that one would need a different prep course. However, you do bring to light some of the flaws in the NP certification process, as there should really only be one certifying agency... The problem is that both agencies make so much money’ neither is willing to concede. There is no difference and no benefit to taking both (except for the NP you hired, who apparently marketed himself very wellLike « Reply» Message * L- January 15 at 4:56pm Helena Oakleaf I took both and passed both first time I did both because ANC took too long time to get testing date and I needed to start job search. To me AANDP was more difficult ANCC was more straight forward. However, I had to spend extra time to review research, policy due (o that the testis heavy on those non clinical areas. It should not be a difference in cither exam and because they are both certifying bodies. However, here in FL Magnet hospitals and some ‘government requires ANCC cert for job applicants. Please let's be professionals and stay together we are one profession all NP's should be united and proud togethers OIOe Like » Reply Message * 2 January 15 at $:09pm + Edited Shannon McAllister Gregorck I find it sad that it has been clearly pointed out that you don't know what you are talking about, yet you continue to not educate yourself about the topic. Like» Reply Message * 5 January 15 at 5:20pm Heather Campbell This is not true, Educate yourself. The problem is there shouldn't be 2 different certifications. [agree to that, The AANP exam actually is all clinic focused questions where as the other is approx hall research and theory ... One is no better than the other. Any NP should be able to pass both, but who would take both and pay the fees to keep up both certifications when itis not needed”? I chose to take the AANP exam purely because | wanted to be tested on all clinical questions and I wanted to be certified by the Nurse Practitioner Association. 1 would hope that your new FNP-BC employee educates you because you must not have any understanding of our rol Like Reply» Message * 3+ January 15 at 5:23pm nget Billington Jendeo Both are board certifications, Do your research. Like » Reply» Message + 3+ January 15 ut 5:29pm Bea Krol It's a good thing to know... thanks Like Reply» Message * January 13 at 5:47pm Melissa Libla Warmack Kind of scary that this person is allowed to speak on behalf of a practice about something they obviously have no education on. I would be horrified, if I was the practitioner they were advertising this way. Seeing huge red flags! Like» Reply Message 4 January 15 at 8 cia Garofalo Gellasch You have no idea what your talking about. By the way it's board certified not ing! You should do your research before posting something like this - go look al the requirements for both board certifications. I's really simple - we have two different certifying bodies. The NP can choose ‘which organization to go with. Many don’t use the -C or -BC credential because we follow what our state say's we need (0 use. For example I have my FNP board certification through the ANC. I never use -BC afier my name. I use MS, APN because that is what my state says I must use. Please stop trying to delegitimize the profession of NPs. Possibly you weren't properly informed but now you are???” Please edit your post. Mary Prewitt Report them to the Clearly uneducated in this area Like « Reply“ Message Janvary 15 at 6:10pm Board". Perhaps itis a discrentled employee Joyee Ann Ridiculously clueless. They are working very hard to mak« ‘something special. Something the rest of us don't Like - Reply“ Message * | - Janvary 15 at 6:18pm seem like this provider hasSusanne Part Leffew Wow!! Where are you getting your information”? You are WRONG!!! Maybe, our esicemed colleague, Dr. Margaret A. Fitzgerald, can help you understand, ups: pea comicontentaspy. Frequently: Asked Questions about NP Certification - Fitzgerald Health Education Associ The American Academy of Nurse Practitioners (ANP, www sanpeertification fhea.com Like » Reply - Message» Remove Preview 9+ January 15 at 6:20pm Ellen Van Haute Frazier AS an AANP certified FNP with over 12 years of experience, [take exception with the incorrect statement "the boarding designation requires more time and effort." I received my Masters degree from an accredited program (Thomas Jefferson University) while working as a bedside nurse, ‘attended a board review class (Fitzgerald Health Associates), and provide quality, evidence based, cost effective care to my patients. In addition, | am constantly educating myself on the latest studies, guidelines, ‘and recommendations. Lam also educating our next generation on NPS as adjunct faculty at Villanova University. So how exactly am I not putting in enough work to be recognized and respected as a qt healthcare provider? Like » Reply Message -4- January 15 at 6:20pm Nicole Flizabeth Completely false information. Please fact check before you post stuff? Like » Reply Message - 4 January 15 at 6:26pm Robin Argyle Whoever you are, itis clear that you are uneducated in the way our certifying BOARDS, differentiate themselves from one another. So let's break this down super easy. Once upon a time the ANCC was the ONLY board certifying body for NP's. The AANC literally credentials all realms of nursing. They took the term BC for themselves when they were founded. Then the AANP came along as another certifying BOARD. Since the term BC was ALREADY TAKEN, they chose to use simply a C. ‘That way, ata glance people could tell which agency certified the NP. If someone choose to take both exams that’ their choice. However then they are required to maintain BOTH certifications and get CME/CEU's for BOTH, Doesn't make much sense to me, but everyone is free to do what they choose. Like » Reply» Message * 10 January 15 at 6:56pm sane ‘Talley wrong !!! The BC Does not require more work than the C -certfication ! Do your homework before you post !! Like « Reply * Message « 2 January 15 at 7:09pm April Joy Siecle As an international NP I had many roadblocks to write ANCC and was able to write, ‘AANP exam, Iam finished my DNP from, US university in about a month and then Iam eligible to sit for ANCC. Just apples and oranges. Not good and better! Like » Reply» Message * 2 January 15 at 7:14pm Mary Ellen Fraatz Roberts Prior to posting and actually slandering one organization Please get your facts straight, ask that you delete this misrepresentation of exams that you obviously have not been educated ‘on, As a centfied NP, who has taken both exams and is the current Chair of the Board of Commissioners of | the American Academy of Nurse Practitioners Certification Board (in your post you spoke to the wrong organization) [take great offense to your posting. You have insulted all certfieants whether AANP or ANCC cerified. both organizations work extremely hard at ensuring the public's safety through the certification process. Get your facts straight before you post anything about a profession that you need education on. Like» Reply» Message 34+ January 15.9 78pm - Edited Jenna Thomas “Q) “O" “O Like - Reply“ Message | - January 16:1 10:10amKathryn Gomez-Flaming Thank you, Commissioner Roberts, for your comments. [too am proudly AANP and ANCC certified. Like « Reply» Message - January 17a 6:21pm Rori Bridges Your statement is incorrect! Like » Reply» Message * 2+ January 15 at 7:49pm Julie Quifionez That is incorrect Please see this explanation on hiow to use the bupsilfhen.com/eontentasps... Like » Reply Message * 2 January 15 at 8:27pm > vs-BC Kimara Vaughn Back in 2007, ANP did not offer the board exam for some special don't, Correct me if 'am wrong. So I took the ANCC exam. Don't try to divide and confuse potential patients who may begin to think a *C'or "BC" behind a name is better than the other. This is inappropriate! Remember all NPs must pass either board exam 10 even call ourselves NPs...Plus I don't use the BC as it saves on copy Like « Reply - Message » 3 January 15 at 8:32pm sand they still Wendy Smith Fields This is untrue. Both certifications are equal, both are board certifications. They use itferent abbreviations to distinguish which organization has issued the certification. Like « Reply Message 10 - January 15 at 8:34pm Rayuel Sanchey Temesvari Incorrect!!! lam glad fo hear that you hired a NPand that you are very proud of her experience and credentials, but your explanation is incorrect and you should apologize for your mistake. Like « Reply * Message - January 15 at 8:42pm Emily Jean This post is completely ignorant and I feel somehow directed toward someone that perhaps ‘does not work for your organization, am hoping I am wrong. Proud FNP-C, it would maybe make sense to delete these posts before you receive more backlash Like - Reply = Message - | = January 15 at 8:58pm Denise Hemby Stokes Both certification bodies are Board Certified. Please obtain correct information before advertising. 'm sure your FNP-BC is morlfied as I am sure she is aware of your mistake, Like « Reply - Message * 2 January 15 at 9:18pm ‘Sharon Joseph Kowatch Iam unusual in that I have been & Nurse Practitioner for 32 years. Nursing has a history of confusing those not within the profession. It has done it with certification from 2 organizations, ‘The American Association of Nurse Practitioners is the original certification. The American Academy of ‘Nurse Practitioners established their certification in 1993. The American Academy of Nurse Practitioners ‘was created because at the time, the NPs did not feel the American Nurses Association was representing, them in the way they was to be represented to the legislature. It is 2 *splinter" organization that has been successful, The standards are actually determined at the university with program requirements for credentialing. One certification is not better than the other. Its both/and and simply an example of public ‘confusion, [would be happy’ to mentor your NP... have her PM me. Like « Reply - Message -9- January 15 at 9:35pm Edited Kathryn Gomez-Flaming Thank you for 32 NP years!! ‘The American Academy of Nurse Practitioners Certification Program (AANPCP) is the original certifier. The American Association of Nurse Practitioners (ANP) is the result of the merger of the AACN & AANP membership organizations in 2013. ‘The certification exam has always remained with AANP Certification Program (AANPCP) now AANPCB, separately incorporated from the membership org. Like « Reply Message «1 January 17 at 6:30pm,Trish Whisenant Yes, you're absolutely wrong. Like « Reply « Message January 15 at 9:29pm Nicolle 1.ea Medina Incorrect! Get your facts straight! I actually have to laugh how wrong you are! Lam board certified FNP-C and have owned my clinic for over I years! Like « Reply“ Message * | January 15 at 9:50pm D'Layna Fichman Seriously! Have you ever heard of google? Like * Reply Message * 3 Januaty 15 at 10:08pm Amy Machacon Jamison There is no such thing as one certifying agency offers a certification only and the cther one offers board certification. AANP (FNP-C), and ANCC (FNP-BC) are equal board certifications and 10 make it clear, every NP is boarded. There is no such thing as test for certification only and a test for board certification. The letter difference is only to identify which certifying agency the NP took the test and ssed. Tis not required to take the test from 2 certifying agencies. I's up to the graduate but that does not mean he is better prepared than the NP who only took | test from either agency. Anymore, you cannot post info simply from what you hear or was told, Search for facts because this is very embarrassing on your part Like - Reply - Message 7 January 15 at 10:16pm Deborah Brown Obviously this person has no idea what they're talking about, Either ‘Board! we sit for and pass gives us certification! What idiots. Like * Reply: Message 3 Janusiry 15 nt 10:17pm Nicole Callioun ‘The site manager is just improperly educated if they believe BC is more work or takes more. Choice is the only reason you take one exam over the other...you can take either one the day you get ATT. L took AANP because it was less expensive! Like « Reply » Message » Janvsry 15 21 10:25pm Roulp Fp General "Yes, both credentials indicate that the person is a cestified NP. However, the -BC certification requires more work than the -C certification. " Since you ve encouraged to ask questions what's posted in here and my question is what kind of "more work" is required for -be than the -c? Would you elaborate be I am dying to know ? Like « Reply Message «1 « January 15 at 10:36pm Nigole Calhoun How is the BC more work than the C? We are eligible to take both tests upon graduation. 1 believe you completely misunderstand the certification process. Like » Reply » Message» 2 January 15 at 10:43pm Edited ‘Amanda Jones Fondren You couldn't be more wrong! You must be an uneducated doctor who is threatened by nurse practitioners all together. Like» Reply Message * 4 January 16.at 12:1 am Baited ‘Amanda Jones Fondren Yep, after looking at your FB page, I see that you are, Like - Reply - Message - | - January 16 at 12:12am Dawn Kennesy-Morris I'm wondering if i's actually the provider, the NP with both credentials, who is posting here? Mostly because I hope that itis not. ! would hope the provider's education gave the insight as to what the basis of their credentials are. Certainly they would know (I hope) the two credentials are ‘essentially one in the same. The SAME education/degree. The SAME test prep courses. The SAME license is granted by the state following certification. Maybe the site administrator Is creating this Information from ‘what the provider said during an interview, to make themselves SEEM more qualified for the position? It ‘may be more work to actually sit down and TAKE both certification tests, but no additional training, experience or education is necessary for the qualified graduate to sit for one test or the other. Why some ‘choose to have both is up to the individual provider. Possibly because as a new grad they may fear failing‘one but have the other lined up justin ease, but for the most part, it's redundant, have found that some ‘who start with both end up dropping one or the other at some point because keeping them both can be a ‘daunting task, and i's expensive to boot. Some health care settings or employers may prefer one certification over another, but that varies widely at a local level and nationally. My sister-in-law is dual certified as a Family Nurse Practitioner and an Acute Care Nurse practitioner. She completed a program in Colorado that included education in both. She HAD to take the ANC for FNP because the ANCC also ‘does the testing/certification for the acute care role, I'm not sure if this isthe situation in this case, so please take the time to educate yourself on the role, education, cenification and lincesure of yourself/your provider. Like - Reply» Message * | - January 16 at 12:20am - Edited Cristina Bui Wrong. When ENPs graduate, they are eligible to sit for either exam. The AANP offers an ‘exam that is more practice related while the ANCC offers an exam that has more ethical/legal/theory ‘questions on it, The amount of studying required is the same. Neither is better and neither is preferred. Both ‘exams certify the NP the same. The difference in letters only distinguishes which organization the NP is certified through. And itis actually discouraged to take both exams. Please slop spreading misinformation, Like Reply Message * 5 January 16 at 1:04am Sandy Leathery So WHAT extra work do BC NPs have to endure? A longer test? More clinical hours, ‘more theory hours? Indeed spell it out forall to review! Like» Reply * Message | - January 16 at 1:33am Christina Bui For most NPs, it doesn't make sense to keep up with the costs and continuing education requirements of 2 different certifying boards. I's like having 2 different cars with 2 different registration fees and paying insurance on 2 cars when you only need one car. Like » Reply» Message I « January 16 at 1:34am Karolina Priebe This information is wrong! The NPs go to School to get their MSN degree. Upon graduation they are eligible to either take the AANP Or ANCC exam. One is not "better" than the other or require more work! The posted information is very misleading! Whomever posted this needs to do thei research about the 2 certfications!"! Like + Reply: Message * 4 January 16 at 3:23am Robin Argyle I would be willing to bet with all these people correcting your egregious error, you will at the very least be offering a formal apology after of course you do some research. A class action lawsuit for slander and spreading misinformation wouldn't be very fun, You are posting to social media and these things get around quickly. This is not only damaging to NPs, it's damaging to your business. Like Reply » Message + 5 January 16 at 7:16am Alison Foister Beshara Wrong. Educate yourself please Like Reply» Message * Januaty 16.at 7:56am Helen Fox Douglas WRONG. FNP-BC cant use the designation FNP-C because they haven't EARNED it Both are BOARD certified, The ONLY difference is which board certified you. That's ALL that the "B* initial means. Like + Reply ‘Message * January 16 at 8:08am Jennifer Folden Braga [100k both exams and have both certifications. In no way does one certification require more work than the other. The two exams just cover a different percentage of content. This is the ‘most ludicrous thing I've heard. Whoever is posting this information needs to seriously educate themselves, from credible resources. Like» Reply Message 2 Janvaty 16 a1 9:15am Edited Michelle DeCausey Thomas Not sure what you're trying to say but your post is misleading and full of falsehoods! Like - Reply Message | January 16 at 10:22amRyan Mallo With all respect it does not appear that you understand certification from the NP point of view: Tm curious if you even consulted the NP's in your office before making this post? I am board certified by the American Academy of Nurse Practitioners and very soon will be boarded by the American Nurses Credentialing Center as an Emergency Nurse Practitioner. If you're double boarded as a ENP by both cenities, it doesnt do anything to your scope of practice or ab [mall honesty, many NP’s are FNP-BC because it was the only way they could attain certification many years ago. Since that time the AANP has offered certification and their designation is FNP-C; they do the ‘same job and the test measure the same thing Like Reply» Message * 3+ January 16at 28pm Valerie Davidson Ignorance at its best! Like Reply - Message Janvary 16 at 3:12pm Be La Your ignorance is infuriating, 1 won't waste my time restating what my colleagues have so clearly laid. I suggest you take time to read our responses to your original post as well as this post. If you're still tunclear, also suggest you take time to speak to with your new hire Mr. Dragon and get acquainted with ‘our profession. Best wishes. Like « Reply Message « January 16 at 6:08pm Brenda Harding Hage Your information is misleading and false, The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Sevices, the federal government, and third party payers recognize both of these exams as national board certification, Iam boarded in three specialties and I have taken both ANCC and ANP exams. Both of these credentialing bodies have created rigorous, psychometrically sound board exams. Information on the design and results of these exams is available on each organizations’ website. As health professionals we teach have a responsibility to provide factual and unbiased information to the public that we serve. I recommend that you verify the Facis before making false and damaging statements about others’ professions. Brenda Hage, Ph.D., DNP, RNP Like « Reply Message» U1 «January 16 at 7:05pm + Edited Roti Bridges Please take this down! Both tests take the same amount of time. Basically you decide which exam you can get scheduled fi wrong! Like « Reply - Message * January 17 at 8:17pm 1, There is no more education required for one or the other. This post is so