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by B R Haran on 31 Jul 2009 12 Comments Like 5 Tweet

Harvard professor Michael Witzel, who recently visited India in the guise of a scientist and Sanskrit scholar, has
claimed in his tour report that his presentations and lectures at the science conference in Hyderabad and places were
a success. Claiming the Hindutva form of chauvinism is waning in India, he ridiculed Indian scholars with his
usual bellicosity.

Though his visit and engagements were kept low key by the organizers, the events following his unsuccessful neo-
colonial sojourn in Chennai subjected the visit to uncomfortable (for Witzel) scrutiny via the internet, and Witzel
had to meet with surprise guests at almost every Indian venue thereafter.

Witzel is hardly a household name in India. The few who know him see him in a negative light; for those following
the CAPEEM (California Parents for the Equalisation of Education Materials) case in the US, he is better known as
the mastermind behind the Harvard Donkey Trial. A small introduction to Dr. Michael Witzel is in order, so that
readers get to know him and his minions in India better.

Michael Witzel follows Max Muller and bases his ideas on Philology, a pseudo-science of White Christian origin.
An ardent advocate of the fanciful Aryan Invasion Theory, now diluted to Aryan Migration Theory, he claims that a
race called Aryans migrated from Central Asia and hence Sanskrit came into India from Central Asia and it is not a
Bharatiya (Indian) language. It is his academic position that anything against Biblical ideas is false or a pseudo-
science. He does not accept evidences based on DNA, Carbon Dating and Archaeology. Though positioned as a
Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard, it is alleged that his knowledge of the language is limited, to put it charitably.

Witzel is promoted by the Church and has great animosity towards Hindu cultural heritage and religious tradition.
He has abused Hindus for cremating their dead and has authored the profound insight that the sacred Mantra Om
is used to call ones wife and goat.
(Ref: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Indo-Eurasian_research/message/2134
And http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Indo-Eurasian_research/message/2164).

In the California Text Book case, he pitted himself against CAPEEM and worked against Hindu concerns. His
alleged connections with a church in Colorado and the LTTEs front organization FeTNA were exposed during the
Harvard Donkey Trial. Though the judgment was in favour of CAPEEM, he claims to have achieved his
objective. He is addicted to trivialising and diminishing Indian scholars on Hinduism.
(Ref: http://www.capeem.org/links.php and http://www.capeem.org/legal.php).

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Petitions were sent to Harvard authorities asking them to end its association with hate groups by mentioning the
nefarious designs of Witzel & Co.
(Ref: http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2005/12/fwd-end-harvard-association-of-hate.html and
Fwd: End Harvard Association of Hate Groups! and
http://www.petitiononline.com/stopIER/petition.html End Harvard Association of Hate Groups).

Encounter with the organizers at Sanskrit College

When information about his India tour and Chennai visit reached us (Dr. Kalyanaraman, Director, Saraswati
Research Foundation, Smt. Radha Rajan, Editor, www.vigilonline.com and I) wanted to prevent his entry into the
sacred premises of Sanskrit College. We could not believe a man of such poor scholarship in Sanskrit could be
invited to speak on the language of the Rig Veda, particularly when great Upadhyayas, Mahopadhyayas and
MahaMahaopadhyayas are available within the premises of the Sanskrit College to educate its students and
scholars.

The function was organized under the aegis of Sri Kuppuswamy Sastri Research Institute, situated within the
Sanskrit College premises, on 6 July 2009. We decided to convey to the organisers the incongruity of allowing a
man of Witzels dubious reputation to talk about Rig Veda. On learning that the well-known epigraphist Iravatham
Mahadevan was facilitating Witzels engagements in Chennai, Radha Rajan requested him to either cancel the
event or hold it elsewhere. Though Iravatham Mahadevan accepted the controversy surrounding Witzel, he refused
to dissociate himself from the event or change the venue and threatened to go on a fast unto death if the event was
obstructed in any way. Ironically, Witzel had not spared even Mahadevan his contempt for his scholarship.

We visited the Sanskrit college on 4 July and spoke to Sri B. Madhavan, a trustee and President of the Sanskrit
Academy in his capacity as sole deciding authority, Dr. N.V. Deviprasad, Principal of the college, and Ms.
Kameswari, Director of Sri Kuppuswamy Sastri Research Institute, and apprised them of the adverse consequences
of conducting the event in their premises.

While Sri Devi Prasad and Ms. Kameswari feigned helplessness, Sri Madhavan refused to cancel the event, saying,
Iravatham Mahadevan had already warned me about the anticipated obstacles, but the function will go on as
arranged and he had also advised me to announce before the starting of the meeting that questions would not be
entertained. Ms. Kameswari made it clear that the program was foisted on them by Iravatham Mahadevan and
they had to agree because of his credentials and scholarship. It is notable that none of the organizers was aware of
Michael Witzels stand against Hindus and our civilisational ethos. We told them politely that our protests would be
organized in a democratic manner.

On the evening of 6 July, Radha Rajan went to the venue half an hour before the scheduled programme and was
surprised to see a contingent of police positioned outside Sanskrit College! She went inside and met the organizers
who were sitting with Iravatham Mahadevan, Michael Witzel and other dignitaries. She gave the organisers a single
page document titled Know your Witzel, on the credentials of the professor, and told Iravatham Mahadevan,
You are going ahead with the lecture here despite my request and you also threatened me that you would fast unto
death if I obstructed the meeting. As this institute has its own sanctity due to its association with revered
Gurus/Swamijis and great Vedic scholars, I would not obstruct the proceedings. But I have brought this pamphlet to

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be distributed so that those who attend this mans lecture could get to know what sort of a man he is, and I am not
impressed by your threat. It were better had you fasted for a noble cause. (Ref:
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=693).

When I reached the venue I saw Radha arguing with the police as they objected to her holding placards and
distributing pamphlets. When we explained the reasons for the protests, the police allowed us to distribute the
pamphlets.

Those who objected to Witzels lecture tour, and there were many, are concerned scholars and persons in public
life. The organizers ought to have paid heed to the strength of our objections to Witzel's presence in the Sanskrit
College and in the best spirit of the Hindu tradition of seeking knowledge, should have allowed us some space to
express our points to the audience. Instead, they comically asked for police protection.

Excerpts from the proceedings at Sanskrit College

Dr. N. Mahalingam, President, Kuppuswami Sastri Research Institute, welcomed Dr. Michael Witzel: German
born Michael Witzel obtained his doctorate at the very young age of 29 and he is now 66 years old. At a time when
we Indians have forgotten the Rig Veda, Witzel despite being a foreigner, has been reciting it almost daily. And
being a Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard, he is the most appropriate person to talk about The Languages and
Cultures Revealed by the Rig Veda. I would also request him to conduct researches on the lost continent of
Lemuria and the languages spoken in Southeast Asia since ancient times.

Dr. S. Sankaranarayanan, Chairman, managing committee, Sanskrit College, said, The age of Rig Veda cannot be
ascertained whether it is 1000 BCE or 1500 BCE and whether it belongs to pre-Harappan, Harappan or post-
Harappan periods. Until 600 CE the word Sanskrit was not used to denote a language and only from the time of
Dandin it is used to signify a language. In fact, the common language of Bharat must be called Bharati like how
the languages of France, Spain and England are called as French, Spanish and English. Amarasimha talks about
Brhammi Bharati and the word Bharati is used several times in a particular Yagnya. We should also note that
unlike other languages, Sanskrit is spread throughout Bharat.

He eulogized Witzel: Dr. Michael Witzel has written a book on Kathaaranyaka and one needs to read the
Taitreya Upanishad to understand this book. As he holds a respectable position at Harvard University, he becomes
the fittest person to give a lecture here. He went on to recite a sloka written on Max Muller, addressing him as
Moksha Moolar, by replacing the term with Vruththa Seelar in praise of Michael Witzel!

Witzel expressed happiness at his visit to the Sanskrit College and remembered his Indian teachers (a short stint at
Allahabad) as the next day happened to be Guru Poornima. He said he had not come to talk politics and requested
the audience to consider his views as a Sampradaya as there were many Sampradayas in India. He requested the
audience (around 30 only) to listen even if his lecture was not agreeable to them and ask questions at the end.

He said, I have not come here to talk about Aryan Invasion Theory. My talk will be only about the scientific facts
derived from Rig Veda. I dont think any genetic experts are here, but please be informed that my studies are also

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based on such sciences. My only wish is that we have to arrive at a consensus, though there are scopes for
misunderstanding. There is no doubt regarding the antiquity of Rig Veda, but it belongs only to the Bronze Age and
not Stone Age or Iron Age. It is composed by Rishis with a particular type of poetic alankara using specific syntax
and it has geographical boundaries. Rig Vedic Sanskrit is not Panini-Sanskrit or Kalidasa-Sasnkrit and not even
Atharva Veda Sanskrit. Languages change with time and the connotations, expressions and meanings of words also
change according to that. Many languages are being spoken in India. The words used by those living in the
Himalayan ranges are different from the words used by those living on the plains. The languages spoken with
poetic-alankara have similarities with Greek. The languages can be classified into two categories namely Pre-
Vedic (Proto-Iranian) and Rig Vedic (Avestan).

Witzel continued, The Soma plant of Rig Vedic times was located in Central Asia near Tajikistan, and then it
came to India via Iran. Also when looking at the usage of certain words, it becomes known that people migrated
from Central Asia (thickly populated areas) to India (thinly populated areas) in clusters. The higher level of religion
was dominated by Brahmins and Kshatriyas, while Dasas and Dasyus are lowly placed. Even the city layout was
planned based on such a formation as indicated by the recent archaeological findings at Haryana. People were
living in clusters in different areas and they spoke different languages. Though the Dravidian people living in the
southern areas spoke the southern languages (Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada), the former Dravidian areas
included even Maharashtra and the Indus Valley. The Sanskrit speaking people moved from one place to another
with their cattle and they mingled well with the local people.

Showing the Indus Valley Civilization (IVC) seal of Siva-Pasupati, Witzel said, Actually it is not known if this
really denotes Siva or Pasupati. We cant say how the IVC people called it. Similar figures (Gundestrup Cauldron)
have been found in other far off places like Denmark. So it is not Siva or Pasupati and the same is the case with
Mahishasuramardini, which appears in Hinduism later. In fact, there is no link!

Concluding, he said, Nowadays genetic methods are used to find out ancestry and ones parentage is ensured with
just a sample of saliva. But I am not sure how many of you know genetics. Recently, some Indian scholars have
brought out data on such genetic studies about the people of India. Their data showed that the south Indian tribals
and Kashmir Brahmins belonged to the same stock. But still, you can find that some groups like Assamese, Nagas
and others are left out or fall outside the pattern represented.

When Dr. Witzel invited questions, Mr. Ramakrishna Rao asked him two questions; he managed to answer the first,
regarding Bongozkai inscription of 1450 BCE. While fumbling to answer the second question posed by Dr. N,
Mahalingam - asking him to differentiate between his Sampradaya and the Indian Sampradaya on Rig Vedic Gods
based on the pictures (IVC & Denmark) shown by him - Iravatham Mahadevan intervened and stopped the session
abruptly, obviously to save Witzel more embarrassment.

In his thanksgiving address, Dr. N.V. Deviprasad asserted, Rig Vedic culture cannot be separated from Bharatiya
Culture. Our tradition is that we worship forms or murtis in nature, trees, rivers and mountains. Westerners like
Michael Witzel may interpret them differently. But to complete the speech on the topic given here, Witzel might
take a few more hours!

The dissatisfaction among the small gathering over the lacklustre lecture was palpable. Even Dr. S.
Sankaranarayanan reportedly felt let-down and allegedly remarked that he had heaped undeserved praise upon

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Witzel as the standard of the lecture fell far below expectations from a professor at Harvard and it seems even
Harvard has lost its standards. It is going to take me a long time to live down my blunder.

Fiasco at Madras University

Iravatham Mahadevan had arranged for Witzel to speak on the same topic in the Sanskrit Department of Madras
University on 8 July. This lecture was attended by barely 15 persons, of whom ten were policemen. Police
assembled for protection far out-numbered the audience!

The Head of the Sanskrit Department, Professor S. Dash, welcomed Witzel saying, he comes from Harvard
University, which is the most elite in the world. Also he is not new to our land, as he has come here many times
before. He has also done immense research on our culture and languages. He has come here to our department only
to see the original manuscripts and also to observe our activity of Catalogus Catalogorum of manuscripts
project going on here. We request Dr. Witzel to guide us on this project and I assure that it would be successfully
completed by 2012. Dr. Witzel would talk about the cultures and languages revealed by Rig Veda

Dr. Iravatham Mahadevan started with a recitation of Guru Stuti and said, Dr. Witzel has been an expert in Vedic
research in general and Rig Veda in particular. I met him six years back at Harvard when I had been there in
connection with the publication of my book on Tamil epigraphy by Harvard University. At that time, he was the
one who welcomed me and took me around the university, including the library.

(Although Witzel had criticized Iravatham Mahadevan in the past, he helped in the publication of Iravathams book
at Harvard. Mahadevan acknowledged this in the introduction for his book Early Tamil Epigraphy: From the
Earliest to the Sixth Century AD)

Defending Witzel, Iravatham Mahadevan said, There is some misunderstanding about him and his works. Two
days ago some misguided elements tried to disrupt his lecture at Sanskrit College, but anticipating trouble we were
ready with police protection. In spite of that those misguided fanatics protested outside the venue peacefully by
distributing pamphlets. Those people have acted against our cultural tradition. Taking care of our guest and treating
him with respect is our culture as signified by the saying Atithi Devo Bhava. We may have differences of opinion
with our guests, but it doesnt mean that we should disrespect them. I too have differences of opinion with him. So,
shall I take a gun and shoot him down?

Tolerance is a part of our culture. We believe in the ancient saying Ekam sat, viprah bahuda vadanti. There have
always been conflicts between the Church and the State in western nations. But our country had produced great
Saints and Gurus like Buddha, Adi Sankara, Ramanuja and Madhava and many others who have shown us the path
of tolerance, pluralism and secularism. But those who protested that day in Sanskrit College have not followed the
path of these great saints and their behaviour was so un-Indian, but they are only the fringe elements of the society.
He concluded with a Shanti Sloka in Sanskrit.

(Though Iravatham accepted having differences of opinion with Witzel, he did not explain why he brought him to
Chennai and why he chose Sanskrit College, which doesnt have proper facilities for a high profile conference,

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when there were several better-equipped conference halls in the city).

Witzel gave a lusterless performance, similar to the one at Sanskrit College, and invited questions. A Professor
from Kolkata showered praises for his brilliant lecture, but Ramakrishna Rao made him fumble again. Rao started
pressuring Witzel to answer, but the Department staff shouted him down; Iravatham Mahadevan abruptly curtailed
the session and Prof. Dash mockingly told Rao another meeting would be arranged exclusively for a debate.

A disastrous visit

Between 6 and 8 July, Dr. Witzel visited Puducherry and met scholars of the French Institute of Indology on 7 July.
Our sources informed us his theories were not received well. Before coming to Chennai, he addressed a symposium
in Hyderabad organized by the Indian Academy of Sciences for its platinum jubilee celebrations. From Chennai, he
went to Delhi to lecture at JNU and IIC (9 and 10 July respectively).

Witzel has not given a detailed account of his Delhi lectures in his tour report apart from terming Prof. Bhagwan
Singh as a Hindutvavadin. Possibly he realized the India International Centre meet was a disaster. Prof. Bhagwan
Singhs account, in mirthful detail is at http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=715

Dr. Kapila Vatsyayan, scholar of classical Indian dance, chaired the meeting and made some sharp observations on
Witzels lecture. Sri Anoop, who attended the talk, reported to friends that, Dr. Kapila Vatsyayan gave her opinion
after the question hour by taking at least 10 minutes (very lightly with her trademark pleasing smile). Her main
points were:

1] Witzel and all academics working on the AIT are concentrating mainly on comparative mythology. If myths are
dissected for the purpose of finding parallels between civilizations, and historical conclusions drawn out of them,
then myths cease to be myths.

2] The main background of Rig Veda is subjects like cosmology (do not confuse cosmology with religion!);
Witzels studies never highlight this aspect. To create a voluminous text and start a revolution of intellectual work
based on tough subjects like cosmology, imagination is not enough; we should study how the Vedic people were
able to work at such a high intellectual plane which can't be seen anywhere else.

3] Rig Vedic poetry of very high level. Such high level poetry, that too with a very difficult subject as its base,
cannot be made by a people without good intellectual lineage and practice.

4] History cannot be proved by comparative mythology, linguistics or one or two other streams. There should be a
multi-disciplinary approach towards learning history.

Yet Witzel made a tour report terming the factual articles written by attendees of his lectures as unproductive
reporting and inane accounts. Yet the fact that he could not confront or reply to any question remains.

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Unanswered Questions

What is the truth behind Dr. Michael Witzels visit? Why did he come, and why was it kept low profile? Which
organizations apart from The Indian Academy of Sciences hosted him? Normally a visiting foreign
dignitary/scholar receives generous media coverage, especially when he enjoys anti-Hindu credentials, but this time
the media was kept away from Michael Witzel. Was it deliberate? If so, why?

Did he come alone or with a team? If he came with a team, where did the others go and what did they do? Witzel
confessed in his tour report that he was given access to original manuscripts and other records in all the places he
visited. Was he allowed to take copies of such documents or were they were sold to him? If so, were those
institutions authorized to provide him with these records?

Why was Sanskrit College chosen as one of the venues in Chennai? Was it because it is a Central Government
aided institution? Did the Centre force the college to organize the lecture? Was there pressure on New Delhi from
any American organization?

Is there any connection between this visit and the interfaith dialogue last month between Hindu and Christian
religious leaders in Mumbai? A few years ago, the Jesuit Padre Francis Clooney visited Chennai and other parts of
Tamil Nadu with the agenda of inculturation. He is associated with dubious organizations like Shanti Vanam.

Close on the heels of Witzels visit, Clooney descended on Tamil Nadu after a short trip to Jaipur and Pune. Some
Vaishnavite scholars are entertaining him without realizing the danger of his inculturation objectives. Why are
scholars like Iravatham Mahadevan, Dr. N. Mahalingam and Srivaishnava scholars helping and facilitating the
visits of such dubious characters despite knowing their anti-Hindu credentials?

When Witzel was working against CAPEEM, he had the support of Christian organizations like Dalit Freedon
Network and Dalit Solidarity Forum, which are bent upon separating Scheduled Castes from the Hindu fold. He
also had support from the LTTE front organization FeTNA.

Conclusion

We are a Hindu Nation; our religion, culture and philosophy are Hindu. Our cultural heritage and religious
traditions are amply explained in our Vedas, Upanishads, Ithihasas and Puranas. The Indus-Sarasvati civilization is
nothing but our Vedic civilization. Theories of Aryan-Dravidian race have been concocted by Christian invaders to
divide and rule over us.

With evangelization and conversion the main agenda, inculturation methods started from the early seventeenth
century with Robert-de-Nobili; the divide and rule policy was political strategy by Max Muller and Macaulay.
People like Michael Witzel and Francis Clooney follow the same strategies with the same objective. We are making
a blunder by inviting them to lecture in our midst and allowing them access to our treasures.

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If they come on their own, we must either ignore them or debate and defeat them effectively; never should we
provide them access to our records. We have great Vedic Pandits, Linguists and Scholars to speak about Vedic
culture and language to school and college students; we dont need outsiders with dubious credentials. It is high
time we woke up from our deep slumber to the reality of a dangerous web being spun around us in the name of
pluralism, secularism and tolerance.

The author is a senior journalist; he lives in Chennai

User Comments Post a Comment

This guy is a pseudo-scholar, singing hate-Hindu themes to earn his supper from missionary managers. Dammit.And Shame on
Iravatham Mahadevan for all that he did to host this latest fifth column import.

Kuna Mohanty Report Abuse

July 31, 2009

If "Witzel is hardly a household name in India" why popularise him by discussing about his dubious achievements? What is the point
in calling these rabble-rousers 'dignitaries'?

Ramesh Report Abuse

July 31, 2009

Vastraharan by Haran!

Mr. Haran has done Vastraharan of the pseudo-scholar masquerading as an authority on Vedic India. His account of the meetings
addressed by Witzel in Chennai is quite detailed and leave us in no doubt about the true level of the 'scientist' and 'Sanskrit scholar'
from the West.

That lends credence to the warning-cum-appeal by the author in the conclusion section of the article. Every Indian and every India
lover would do well to treat with utmost caution any foreigner claiming to be an authority on anything about ancient India.

Virendra Parekh Report Abuse

July 31, 2009

We need more HARANS who write with such equilibrium and finesse exposing 'hypocritical conmen posing to be scholars on India'
trying their very best to distort the wisdom and history of India.
And at the same time these very people claim to be adherents of our age-old traditions.WHY? They have ulterior motives to hijack
all that is ours !
However, the tragedy is that there are 'respectable people within the fold' who are responsible for such transgressions .
There is a couplet in SRITHULASI RAMACHARITHAMANAS -
?? ?? ???? ???? ??? - the enemy is within !

Let us pray and hope that TRUTH WILL BE VICTORIOUS -

??????? ???? !
May we have more and more people like SRI HARAN!

Vijaya Chandramouli Report Abuse

August 01, 2009

Excellent overview Haran Ji. I now understand why my foreign friends tell me that American scholarship is really a lot of bunkum.
How is it possible for Harvard to employ such a "scholar" as this in any capacity other than that of a janitor.

Kadaitswami Report Abuse

August 02, 2009

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The reason why Mr. Whoever is inviting the Prof from powerful Harvard is very clear: It is NOT for India or Indian students and
scholars to benefit! It is for SELF benefit!! It is "you call me there, next Summer I will call you here" or "I will help publish your book"
type deal. More importantly another issue I have indeed observed -- admissions to young relatives in Ivy Leagues is another BIG
catch in the equation !!

Anyway, I being in the US have not heard of this "scholar". Like Ramesh mentioned above, if not for this report (tho useful), I too
would not know of him. Why give him importance when only 30 and 5 people attended the conference -- it speaks for its popularity!

Maya Report Abuse

August 05, 2009

First thing we must understand is that unlike a science or a Management stream , linguistic stream is relative evaluation. If some
one is appointed to the English or French or Russian department of Harvard he must certainly excellant . This is because there are
a lot of experts in this language in USA and they are capable of providing a critical view on a person's works. In case of sanskrit it is
a language known to few. There are even fewer experts and even fewer experts outside India. Who decided the capability of
Witzel ? Even if it is a westerner who knew Sanskrit, that individual's own knowledge needs to be tested. If some one learns French
for two years he may be able to write his own sentences and even a compose a trivial poem in that language. That cannot be called
expertise. A person who does not have sufficient mastery in both Sanskrit and Tamil cannot be a proffessor of Indology. The fact
that Harvard appointed a westerner to that post, when that individual's linguistic skill was not properly tested by qualified sanskrit
experts, is itself sufficient proof that Harvard indology department still abides by its white christian agenda

Harish Report Abuse

May 02, 2010

There is no doubt that Mr. Witzel is a fraud. His dubious translation of BSS ( 18.44) to support his imaginary theory ( AMT) is equally
dubios. To this date eithe this thug or others who support this thug were able to provide any evidence for AMT. He thinks that he is
the genius just because the knows the difference between Vedic sanskrit, Classical Sanskrit.
His knowledge of R.V and Panini's Ashtadyayi is serious doubtful. Indians who are encouraging this crazy lunatic are equally
commiting treachery to the study and antiquity of Sanskrit.

skg Report Abuse

August 05, 2010

Why do Indian Hindus allow westerners to falsify their culture/religion like this? Imagine if he had tried to do the same thing about
Islam or Orthodox Christianity?

Prahalad Report Abuse

July 13, 2011

While everyone has the right to criticize Dr. Witzel's views, no one has the right to slander anyone.

What should be criticized are Dr. Witzel's theories, not his personal self.

Dr. Witzel has taken the slander campaign with dignity. And I hope those who have organized this slander campaign address their
own conscience one day.

The slanderers have a fraction of the scholarly acumen and devotion that Dr. Witzel has given to Vedic studies in his life.

sanskrit_student_in_india. Report Abuse

August 23, 2012

@ sanskrit_student_in_india

There is no dignity that can be identified with Shri Witzel. His sense of dignity had hit nadir when he started calling indian writers
names in public.

Regarding his Vedic studies and knowledge, pl read Sandhya Jain's article on Bhagwan Singh. The darkness entrapped in

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darkness will be expelled.

Let us show dignity to only those who deserve. I believe Shri Iravathan Mahadevan has made a big mistake by Inviting Shri Witzel
and also calling our culture a tolerant/secular culture. Tolerating is a big insult. Suppose I say I tolerate you, what will you feel. But if
I say I respect you, you will feel dignified.

We dont live in secular culture, we are born secular, we live secularism everyday and nobody should lecture us about it.

We should be respectful to every idea, every contrary thoughts,

Murukan Report Abuse

August 28, 2012

thank you for providing this valuable information.

its high time we Indians unite against such people.
Text books in Bharat should modified and everyone should be told about the truth.

summet k Report Abuse

October 23, 2012

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