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New Year,
New Luck
Interview with Consul General Gavito
and Consul Dr. Poetis

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Dr Pantelis Poetis,
Honorary Consul
of Pakistan, and
Jennifer D. Gavito,
US Consul General

New Year,
THE LAST YEAR HAS BEEN VERY
EXCITING FOR THE WHOLE WORLD,
ESPECIALLY FOR AMERICAN CITI-

new Luck?
ZENS. THIS WAS DUE TO THE NERVE-
RACKING ELECTION PROCESS THAT
AMERICA EXPERIENCED. DONALD
TRUMP, AGAINST SOME EXPECTA-
TION WON THE ELECTION WHICH
LEADS ME TO MY FIRST QUESTION
WHICH IS HOW BOTH OF YOU SEE THE
The year 2017 has begun with excitement, sus- CURRENT SITUATION BETWEEN PAKI-
pense and high inquisitiveness. January is the STAN AND THE US UNDER THE NEW
month of ambition and perseverance. Both are GOVERNMENT?
characteristics that Americas new President, Mr Poetis: The positive relationship bet-
Donald Trump, showed during the nerve-racking ween the US and Pakistan is one of long
standing which will endure. Both coun-
elections. New Year, new Luck?
tries are fully committed to combating
terrorism and it is likely that common ef-
forts to do so will intensify, not diminish.
On the 19th of January 2017, Mrs Jennifer Gavito, US Consul General
and Dr Pantelis Christian Poetis, Honorary Consul of Pakistan, came Mr. Tump is an experienced and suc-
together for an interview at the US consulate in snowy Munich to cessful businessman and many of his
not only talk about the above stated historic event, but also about cabinet nominees are experienced in
the current political situation as well as the economic bonds bet- foreign trade. His administration is
ween the US, Germany and Pakistan. Eagerly and full of curiosity likely to continue promoting commer-
both, Mrs Gavito and Dr Poetis, talked about the consequences the cial efforts that support the economies
new government will wield on Germanys, Pakistans and Americas Interview of trusted partners in the war on ter-
economy and policy, about bonds to China and Russia and exciting by Adnan Haider rorism. Time will tell as to the manner
investment opportunities as well as humanitarian projects. and Josine Smid and volume of support, but is clear that

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AUSSENPOLITIK

Pakistans successful efforts to reduce MR TRUMP SAID INDIA IS THE CHECK Poetis: The more US businesses are
corruption will make the country more TO PAKISTAN; YOU HAVE TO GET IN- involved in the area, the more they will
attractive to foreign direct investment. DIA INVOLVED. BOTH ARE NUCLEAR understand the potential of the entire
The proof is in the numbers: Pakistans NEIGHBOURS WITH A COMBINED PO- South Asian sub-continent. It is reasona-
stock market is currently rated number PULATION OF MORE THAN 1.5 BILLI- ble to hope that the USAs involvement
one in Asia; the countrys GDP growth ON PEOPLE. WOULD A CLOSE INDIA- will lead to a rapprochement between all
is 7th in a recent Economist ranking. USA RELATIONSHIP BE TO PAKISTANS countries in the area. The sheer weight of
BENEFIT OR TO ITS DETRIMENT AND numbers, which testify to the importance
Gavito: President Trump has signed WHAT WILL BE THE EXPECTATIONS OF of the subcontinent, make clear that the-
his intent to have a strong personal and PAKISTAN FROM THE NEWLY ELEC- re is a common asset: the industrious and
working relationship with Pakistani Pri- TED GOVERNMENT? indefatigable nature of millions of people
me Minister Sharif. Our relationship Gavito: The United States endeavours who have very much in common.
with Pakistan has reciprocal benefits for to have close relations with all the coun-
both countries, including directly bene- tries of South Asia. India and Pakistan HISTORICALLY PAKISTAN IS AN ALLY
fiting Americans by creating 9,200 jobs stand to benefit from practical coopera- OF THE U.S BUT IN CURRENT SCENA-
through U.S. exports of $1.8 billion in tion. Closer regional ties can create jobs, RIOS PAKISTAN FORGED CLOSER TIES
2015, according to the U.S. Depart- lower inflation, increase energy supply, WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA. HOW DO
ment of Commerce; supporting private and ultimately help people in both coun- YOU SEE THESE CHANGING GEO-STRA-
investment in financially sound, clean tries. Nuclear capable states have the TEGIC RELATIONS IN SOUTH ASIA?
energy projects in Pakistan through the responsibility to exercise restraint regar- Poetis: Im a businessman, not a politi-
U.S.-Pakistan Clean Energy Partner- ding nuclear weapons and missile capa- cian. Pakistan will remain a business ally
ship; and the 96 research projects in bilities. We encourage efforts to promote of the USA despite changes in Pakistans
various scientific fields that both coun- confidence building and stability. As for relationship with Russia and China. Cal-
tries have financed since 2005 through Pakistans expectations from the Trump vin Coolidge once said, that the busi-
the U.S.-Pakistan Science and Techno- Administration, that is a question for the ness of America is business. Thats not
logy Agreement. Pakistani government. to imply that the US is only interested

From left: Murad Mehmood, Business Attach, Dr. Pantelis Poetis, Honorary Consul of Pakistan, Jennifer Gavito, US Consul General, Anthony Miranda,
Consul Public Affairs and Josine Smid, Interviewer

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in making money, but I use the quote LINKING TO YOUR POINT HERE DR. AS YOU SAID, IN THE PAST IT MAY
to point out that Chinas business is POETIS. HOW CAN GERMANY AND NOT HAVE BEEN TOO ATTRACTIVE
primarily China and Russias business THE U.S BENEFIT FROM CPEC AND FOR GERMAN INVESTORS TO INVEST
is self-assertion. The US will continue THE NEW SILK ROUTE? IN PAKISTAN. ALTHOUGH CHANGES
to invest in Pakistan because its simply Poetis: Anything and everything which DID OCCUR, WHAT CAN PAKISTAN DO
good, solid business. brings prosperity and holds a key to TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR EURO-
peace is good for everyone, including of PEAN INVESTMENTS AND WHICH SEC-
None the less, Chinas contribution to course the US and Germany. Perhaps TORS DO YOU SUGGEST FOR GERMAN
Pakistans welfare is inestimable. The even more so than most other countries: INVESTORS TO INVEST IN?
$52 billion China intends to invest in both are heavily dependent on global Poetis: Germany is the third largest
Pakistan will bring prosperity to Pa- trade and the Asian subcontinent repre- economy of the world and the biggest in
kistan. The money will also bring so- sents the potential jewel in their busi- Europe. The EU gave Pakistan GSP plus
mething much more important: the key ness crown. status to support the Pakistani economy.
to peace in the entire region. Pakistans government gave incentives,
The improvements in Pakistans infra- tax relaxation and introduced new laws
Gavito: Being an ally of the United Sta- structure made possible by Chinas in- such as the new auto policy and the SEZ
tes always includes the option of close vestment remove the main obstacle to act to attract foreign investments butPa-
ties with other countries, whether that foreign direct investment in Pakistan. kistan still faces challenges. The main
is China, Russia, or India for that mat- P&G, a major American global player, is problem faced by these businesses is that
ter. Deepening trade and economic ties investing in a giant processing plant near they have no network in Pakistan, that
around the worldand helping others the port at the beginning of the route to is why we introduced G.A.T.E. to Paki-
do the sameenables countries to pro- China. The plant will process the oil by- stan, an organization which narrows the
mote essential economic reforms, build products used to make detergents and gap between the businesses of the two
international norms in accordance with washing products. P&G intends to enable countries and provides expertise in net-
democratic values, and fosters coopera- countless millions of Chinese workers to working and marketing and facilitates all
tion among nations to address shared wash the clothes they dirtied building the matters of business.We need to do much
global challenges. new silk route. Thats how business works. more of the same.

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From left: Murad Mehmood, Business Attach Pakistani Honorary Consulate,
Anthony Miranda, Consul Public Affairs, Jennifer Gavito, US Consul General,
Dr. Pantelis Poetis, Honorary Consul of Pakistan and Josine Smid, Interviewer
| Jennifer Gavito and Honorary Consul Dr. Poetis in the US consulate in Munich

PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMPS NOMI- not only in Davos but also in all other
NEE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, MR. venues at which economic development
REX TILLERSON, THE FORMER CEO is discussed such as the Munich Security
OF EXXON, HAS NO POLITICAL OR DI- Conference.
PLOMATIC EXPERIENCE. HIS RECENT
TESTIMONY TO THE SENATE CONFIR- Since the year 2009 Pakistan also par-
MATION COMMITTEE SHOWED A LACK ticipated in the Economy Talks on the
OF UNDERSTANDING OF GLOBAL occasion of the Munich Security Con-
DYNAMICS. A FOREIGN AFFAIRS EX- ference. Pakistans prosperity is only
PERT WHO ASKED NOT TO BE NAMED achievable through global networking
SAID, HE WAS NOT WELL PREPARED. and other efforts, which cause disparate
TRANSITIONS ARE MESSY, BUT THIS interests to focus on Pakistan. My wifes
WAS ESPECIALLY CHAOTIC. HOW IS child clinic effort in Pakistan is a prime
THE WORLDS VIEW OF AMERICA CO- example of such efforts.
LORED BY THE PERFORMANCE OF
THE US SECRETARY OF STATE? Gavito: Your characterization of Mr.
Poetis: I fully expect that America will Tillersons experience and Senate con-
continue to be seen much the same as firmation testimony doesnt take into
under the outgoing Secretary of State: account his 41 years of experience wor- Mrs Gavito and Dr Poetis are going to
by and large positive. Whats needed king inand eventually runninga continue working together for a bright
in Pakistan will also follow the French multibillion-dollar enterprise that has future of America, Germany and Pakis-
saying: plus cest la mme chose. Things successfully negotiated decades-long ag- tan with main focus on the free State of
will change, but the basic needs remain reements all around the world, from Ni- Bavaria which has developed enormous-
largely unfulfilled. We need to invigora- geria to Qatar, to, yes, even Russia. You ly both economically and politically and
te Germanys investment program and can only accomplish that if you indeed over the past few years has become an
do everything in our power to enlarge have a great deal of political or diploma- international contact point for meetings
Pakistans part of the discussions held tic experience. and congresses of world leaders.

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