Yrs Gs 2 z a fe Bile DECLASSIFIED rorsecnet I ao sg muunmeninn omar, w.N. | Brcx_Dareaiales (202) "283-8940 RECORD OF INTERVIEW pate of transcription 1/379: Walter Z. Grashein, Logistics Development, Inc., Pio. Bex 2007, Minni Beach, florida 33240 (208) 673-0006 wes Totervicved ih the offices’ of the Office of Independent Soonsel (ore) Representing the OFC vers Associate Counsel Soha'G. Sarrett and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Special Agent tiichael S. Foster- (0) At the outset of the interview, Grashein provided a current rigrids Driverta License Which contained he following intoreseion: (U) Name: alter 1. Grashein os: 22/26/35, Raatess: 1450 Pinetree Road, Miani Beach, Florida. crashein advised as follovs: crashein's business ‘e equipment supplies and he pecistises Tr'ssiiing ailiacy night vision eyulprents in # line SBesi*dgathein attended a *apecsel operacione conference put rity 2282s She tess eliitary at Fore Sragg, forth caroline, Ae s ease eshteronce a apeckal operations init was established to We EEE O°UnSericus dese military eftorte, in conerel America. #¥ Generar Paul Gorsan epoke at this conference and asked the Saleto help hin in the region. The unit esxed Grashein to go to £ Salvador to help Salvadoran military in it Sounterinsurgency efforts. Grasheim was expected to help Sn fhe area of night combat, which was his specialty. Grasheim arrived in El Salvador in early 1984. imen he arrived he net Art MoArney who Grashein recognized +4 ch —— ate NA, investigation on 12/23/90 at Washington, D.C. Pile # 1¢=600-1. em by SA MICHAEL & saan MsFire pate Dictated 12/18/90 rop-SEEREE ’— ONTINUATION OF INTERVIEW OF WALTER 1 GRASHEXH PAGE 2 fron his ranger days. MoArney is now working, for Bell EOE ME eens on keviving in El salvador, Grashetn, conducted Metonstrations of his night vision equipnent with the deponstran silitary and he met varicus Salvadoran military Seeieiais-@) ceashein gold 2 iarge order of night vision equipment fo the Salvadoran military ond he had given the cauipmene $0 the special operations unit at Fort Bragg to equipnent to, ene es tne unit fouled up the shiprent and the Bend Sve ees up transporting the equipment £0 Et salvador US, May onde Wp the equipmene arrived in EL Salvador, An 8 Et Jeti cer stationed at the U.S. Bubsssy in San jolbe’net the ioaé ee Tlopango ALE Base. ‘men Grashein was working in 5) Seeedobabasates (4)(2) Merarheim Hnev 4 108 Of Geierer cra U.S. minitary personnel in 31 Salvador, Salvaderan aie nal Janes Stacie and seeeiers predecessor, Joe Ameluding colows sm new steele and hie wife Sneilo very well Seningum. griy cinners at stecie's residence in San Sulvedor (=) crashein also knew Felix Rodriguez in EL Salvador we net Rodrigues when Rodriguez first arrived in Pl Salvador He net, Roar tguvgucr flew fron Fanana to Tlopango:, Grashein on 8 C:22 fais Zagriguez, who was a friend of Felix Roarsguer. (0) wa by 1985, Greshoin vas selling a lot of night vision equipment ¢) Srivedoranc. Crashein had several retired eguitmers rations officers vorking for him; Grasheim had specks) oper galvador and vas doing very well; not only, house 7 put in acciating the Salvadoran wititary. (0) con the Thursday before September 1, 1986 which, would have been august 28, 1966, there vas 8 necting in the would nave seaorts office in San'Salvador. Present vere | Soper ‘oYrr8Daa -sop-ercret LONFINUATION OF THTERVIEM OF VALTER 1 CRASHERS PAGE 2 wd, Sele Castille vino. ee ee, OO) Serene atevionca in Guavonala and the UrS; Ambassador to (PPE) S8GRE Edwin cores Gresheim vas not at this necting Ex Salvador caved chat the particlpante discussed raiding C Eroehove'stowee_ for aruft rere GPa etoe ccasheiee Believes tole ee 9 sotelly crorCeGaan._ ceembeie, gested ems gf Eee rece eTe gen involved in druge or areg activity. (5) fon septenber 1, 1986, Grashein's house vas raided by DEA Agent eeptiile and the iocal Salvadoran Nations}, by DEA Agent Coste everything of vaive fron crasnein's house Ponice. They tO0k que Loge.» Grashein wes not present during and destroyed une’ Ti weeks earlier he left on 8 trip. pais 7218 Pecoess cue military post throughout, Salvador traveling to versoceie tacrioe, and use of night vision combat reviewing SHEE 2o'po secret that Gragneis waz out touring equipment. Tiae*because dt was coordinated with Steele 2nd, the country sige peveros secie on hia trip the day after the An fiSineioned U.8- Embassy meeting. (0) at the tine of the raid on hic house Grasheim was tne Litton'Gorporation representative in El Salvador The tne Et Poa GS aPonaih amount of rugs and a fez automate police fcond,Geneinte Rowse, however no charges Ave Sver weapons ay cettnee oracheim aa a result of this incident. Te been Tiled 2°ehat crashein had these weapons. Tey vere was me, Secres ons used in ehe denonstrations he gave to the Buivadorsn military. (0) ‘the raid on Grashein's nouse totally destroyed his business amiruined his reputation, All of hig business and business fecords were seized and they meant 2 LOE, to personal Fegorgpein would very much Like to gst Nis Personal Grasnein. Shsiness records pack and he has been Sheuccesstu in doing 50. (0) ‘about a month end a helf after the raid on his pouse, cratbels cama nstate Departuent, guy" in Nev Or}eans. mouse ort eeein awe ware asked to do that, (the raid) <7 08 He told Grathein tnat he could go back to fl Selvador if he he told Creche charges were filed against hin. (0) men Grashein returned to Zl salvador atter his house had Moen salded, the U.S. Embassy vouldn\t help hin. house ad Pesrporetion took away Grashein's orders that he soP-SECRET Sayan YPreD | dy arwrhy soosjov8) a & a 5 y pop_SEcaE SONTINUATION OF INTERVIEW OF HALTER L, GRASHEIM PAGE & had already written and Greshein lost & lot of money over Enis. crashein also went to see Regalado, the head of the National Police in £i salvador, to question hin abeut the Bald Ragalede told Grasheim he was asked to do it by the Urs. Embassy. (0) Janice Elnore vas a CIA official in £1 Selvador at ‘the time of the raid on Grashein's house and she is also EUsline sien'the situation. Elmore is now believed to be Eeationed at the U:S. Enbasay in Peru. £5} in 1986 Grasheim was approached by 2 U.S. Customs officer vino told him he was under investigation for GEgeceoneting an FEE agent: Grasheim stated this story is aise conplevely unerue. (U) ‘the last Grashein has heard, the U.S. Custons \ service has exsshein's seized personal effects, Grashein saw Service 22h “unen be moe with A U.S. Customs official naned fhe tetGelMlani in 1990. U.S, ‘Customs counsel Chavez gave Sette acter stating he ves not wanted Dy any U.S. lav wrrePeeone agencies. Grashoim has tried to get his effects RECNHea.g) custons in Miami but vas unsuccessful. (0) } crashein stated that he wants to work with the orc. crashein wants to give the OIC intorsation concerning various Sraenein oP the Ung. Government in Ei salvador, including the BONES eeey and Cra who were Anvolved in inproper activity Uondening the resupply of the Contras. in return, Grasheim Souid Like the Orc to help hin get his seized personal Eudes back fron the U.se Government, No promises oF Sgrecnenta wore nade to Grashein by the OIC Popresentat ives. (2) another person who knows about improper activity in £1 Salvador Ge stecie's formar secretary, tilda Martinez. Eh has married a U.8. Arny officer and they are nov living Ghe befsornia., Another person who Kfows things is Lupita Be eeeune the log secretary with the Mil Group in El Salveaor. (0) men Grashein yes in E1 Salvador he learned that the u.s, Eubarsy was paying for Felix Rodriguez’ car and for fhe iS; For ths Contea reaupply aircraft. “The Enbessy vould fhe checks to Mexico where the fuel was provided to the Sere eae eberation: Grashein eav Rodriguez going into the ‘ FeguPEy assy on any occasions carrying three radios. (U) : gor-cacRer‘ror-srerer SNTINUATION OF INTERVIEW OF WALTER Z. GRASHETY PAGE 5 Axound 1995, Grasheim was ta1king with cozenel Aaron Royer, who worked at Defense Security Assistance Agency (DSAn) at the Pentagon. “Royer wented Grashein ta nect Oliver Ly Worth but the meeting never tock place. Crashein dlan'e Know who North waa at that tine, Royer had 9 military {tens shipping list from North. Royer didn't specifically say but Grashein believed this was nilitary itexs destined for the Contras; Royer vanted Grashein to provide him vith prices and availability of Various military itens, which Grashein Aidn't do. Grasneim believed this vas als related to the Contras. (a) In 1985, or early 1996 Steele told Grashoin that ‘ene contras had paid too ich for thelr alzerafe, meaning the Garibou and the G-2238. (0) Grachein has a handuritten exo between corr and a v.s. pentagon official tran Septenber through Novenber, 1986, Concerning the said on Grashain's house, Grashela stated hat he # not willing ta provide thie to the Orc at this Eine. (0) Mario Del Anige is knovn as "ir. contra" in Honduras. "Del Anige was the person who met you at the airport ang got you through Honduran Custors when you came on Contra business.” In 1906, Grachein brought Del Aigo to EL Salvador and introduces hin to Rafael sustillo, Jin steele and others who were involved with the Contras.’ Del Anigo. Sola arma to the Contras and overcharged them: Dol Anigo: Eonpiained to Grashein that Secord war selling arms to the Gontras and overcharging then as wall. Grashein viewed this ike the pot calling the Kettle black, Del Amigo had friends at the 0.8. Enbasoy and in the U.S. Mil Group in Honduras. Der aaigo brought Gvashein to Hondiras on a fev occasions and intreduged him around. (0) bel Amigo used to nest with various people and aiscuss the eupply of the Contras at Grashein's house before {e'was raided, Grashein believes that maybe one of the Feasons why the raid took place was because Secord!s Competition used it for meetings. Grashein believed Del Saigo was running the Contra resupply operation in E2 Salvedor. (0) Grashein was in the U.S. military fron 1953 to Grashein has never had any other affiliation with the -mop-srenet 1961.TOP SECRET CONTINUATION OF INTERVIEW OF HALTER L. GRASHEIM PACE § v.s. nilitary other than this tour of duty and he has never had any affiliation with the CEA, (0) In pia-1904, Grashein was interviewed by the petense intelligence Agency (DIA) about his overall knowledge Bete Salvaacr. hie was & intelligence debriefing by DIA Se rkacn't related to the contrac. tater, a U5. Army ang Mi nuho wes a friend of Grashein tola’ nin to not ever cere mtes¥ to be interviewed by the DIA again. He told siloy imeee prs didn’t identify Grashein by namo, but Greanein Nmin ineclligence reports and it was obvious who their source vas. (0) Greshoin is avare that there is a FBI security file on him because he has held security clearances in the past. (0) here vas a marine who last name is Boykin. He was part of the Ml Group In El Salvador. Boykin retired from Bart of She Und then'went to work for the Contras. Boykin is Sh che cover of an ola Neusvesk Magazine concerning the ares" Grashein ie mentioned inva story in the cane nagazine. (0) in 1986, the U.S. military asked Grashein to get pight vision goggles to the Contras. Grashein recaiis the PigRS At besalse he had to neke up cete himself, A U.5- incident Peficepter tock the goggles to the Contras in Honduras. (V) nocently, the Internal Revenue Service (TRS) has tried to audit Grashein. (0) GAA was alg ho in & friend of Grashein and vho wtete gafetand of Sreehaae reas Tigne a Mine ery Wiebee nati ston things thats say have noe OM he nary oemOeG'ala'co the, Contras and now not nave een 2092}, concesTnod and they are efreid'to se Ste) PWS) [60 Use HOST OO Sige: centred AS se ne ee hate, ferro © BBM ones b0 ave lore Oe hus activities. ceneral Heapranee ut they vere s7are 2h into Hlopango ena ereshed Pau Galvin of Soutncon often Sly resupply sceivicy also (6) ‘TOP SECRET Say Sypre?ToP-escase | comsWONTION OF INTERVIEW OP HALTER L. GRASIRIM PAGE 7 Grachoin cane up with the idea to prepare a aitstary raia-on an airport in Nicaragua, oslng'3 Mitaging base.” Grasheln told General Gorman thie and then Light acter, Rodriguez, cane to ceo Grasheln eithost warning Snl'acked co talk about the idea,” Grashein didn't tell Rodriguez about it and be Believes Gorman did. (0) smarindo as Rodrigue: told Grasheim that he was talking te the [site nouse’anavthe Nec put he didn't tel hin any specitice. Grasheim took thie and everything Rodrigue: saia with a grain Gf eait. Rodriguez never cola Grosheia that he told Donald P. Gregg about the resupply operation in El salvador. Gresheim hes never heard of Sam Watson, Rodriguez did tell Gresheim that he talked to Vice President George Bush. (U) Rafael Bustillo is now Living in wiani, Plorida. tuis Rodrigues was an operations officer at the 0.8. Prbassy inl salvador. Nestor Pino, Nestor Sanchez and Oriando Rodriguez were also vere, tO some extent, of Felix Rodrigue! activities in EL Salvador. (U) crashein met with parbara Studley and Jonn singlaub and they wanted Rin co sell night vision equiprent to the Sineras’ “Shey were working with Mike Timpani, @ retired U.S. hmny helicopter pilot: (0) Grasheim and Jose Blandon, the Salvadoran military officiar, Sales about the Contra resupply operation after the Butiér bullding went up in Zlopango. | Greenein also telked to Stecle avout its. Grasheim dosen't know if steele Ellked to North or Gregg about contra the resupply, operat ion. Ghatheis ino never mee with Corr but he believes Eney both ‘know who each other is. (0) there was a military officer stationed in EL tine. Grasheim will say that ne is @ fi Sate nage net disclosed, who is now in Texas. This person eee eee ret tec et pribe in connection with Grashein's Bilitary gales. (0) Grashein atatea that steele and Rankin vere hard working, eUuenel Stgigers wno are not corrupt and were sone Oe the reeset ot ET salvador who were honest and hard working. (0) Grashein stated he doesn't know Bill Rosenblatt. (U) -ror-seener saivador wie" Srachein will noe, Leentgeg tosbe Ore oe Sass cadca)ic) vs) “aap ny Sp oreo servSanyyorn rr oR secRer CONTINUATION OF INTERVIEW OF WALTER Tu. GRASHEIN PAGE g Grasheim does know Alan Flere and atated he is another one who was involved in the situation in fi Sesvador and Was avare of Contra resupply ectivity. Grasheim has an original handwritten meno concerning a meeting between corr and a U.S. governeent gfficial in Washington, D.C. betwean Septendel and Novenber 2986, right after Hasenfus vas shot dovn. In this neo it states that Grashein threaten Corr. Hovever, Grasheim has seen State Department docusents which says he siveys spake in a respectful tone with corr. (0) TOP-SECRET