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What is this spreadsheet, anyway? How do I find what I'm looking for i
Why don't the links to individual AVS forum posts in this spreadsheet d
Why read Virtualrain's post on picture settings before you modify your
Are the detailed settings for each Picture mode stored separately for e
Are Picture (and Sound adjutment settings) handled the same way for i
[Civuck]
What are the recommended steps to adjust picture settings for each in
(And remember, the same applies to Sound settings.)
What else should consider reviewing about TV calibration before I start
What does the Color Space setting do, should I set it to BT2020 (the hig
What is "Football" picture mode (set via the "Football" button on the re
How can I confirm that my set is displaying 4K? How can I find out the
does the "Display" option show less than 4K/UHD (e.g., 1080P or 720P,
Why do I have black bars on my TV screen above and below, or to the le
[King Richard]
Does the TV support 4K video from YouTube, Amazon, and Netflix apps,
Are there screen settings to manage overscan (e.g., set to full pixel, ad
[VirtualRain][Aaronwt][Pansar][Z1-B]
What about adjusting overscan settings for the TVs Android apps?
[Aaronwt]
Should I let my DVD player, DVR, media player, etc., upscale content to
What are the "best" Motionflow settings in Picture settings? How do I g
[VirtualRain]
What about the Cinemotion setting - what is it important for?
[Z1-B][LCDTVbuyingguide.com review of 75X850C]
Does this TV support PIP (Picture in Picture) or PAP (Picture and Pictur
[Atomic Dog][Beeper]
Is the TV really a 4K display (i.e., 4096x2160) techically speaking?
[Civuck][DoctorM][Z1-B]
How do I reset picture settings to return to stock settings for a picture
settings to factory default settings.)
[Sonoma13]
Does the TV support HDCP 2.2? Do all four HDMI ports support 4K/HDR
Do I need to buy a special HDMI cable for full 4K/HDR support? Does th
[Z1-B][MeasuredPath]
How should I set the HDMI input setting for Dynamic Range (Auto, Full,
[400MHz MAN, Beeper, VirtualRain]
Are Sound adjustments specific to each input and app category like Pic
Anything I should check first if I have judder and other issues with gam
[Aaronwt]
What is the game lag on the X850C? Is it good for gaming?
[aaronwt]
I don't like the Home screen on the TV. How can I replace it with a diffe
homescreen?
Can I customize the Home screen?
Can I install apps on the TV from the Play Store from my laptop or desk
Why isn't an app I want to use available in the Play Store on the TV?
Is there a size limit for drives connected via USB? Can I use a long USB
[Lufters]
Are the USB ports fast enough to play high bit-rate 4K content? Do I ne
[Aaronwt][billdag]
Can I use the new 2016 D series Sony remote w/the 2015 C series TVs?
[Axel Olmos]
How do I turn off or reduce the brightness of the white LED light on the
What devices can I connect to the TV via Bluetooth? Can I use a Blueto
[400Mhz Man]
Is there a way to get a "right-click" context menu in the Kodi app using
[Civuck][Theetjuh][DoctorM]
What is a good wall mount for this TV? Who sells good wall mounts?
[Chas Zoss][C0der7]
What is bias lighting, and why would it provide a nicer picture w/my TV
Are the 55", 65", and 75" X850C TVs all backlit? And are they VA or IPS
Can you tell me more about the panels used in the 2015 X850C, X830C,
[Pizza Rater]
Can I do a manual update (download and install the update from a USB
What is the current TV FW version and what was updated in it? Most
Where is the help manual? There was very little info in the box.
How do I restart the TV (completely reboot it, not just the normal on/off
How do I Factory Reset (aka Factory Data Reset) the TV if I have some s
Can I enable Developer Options on my TV just like you can on a phone o
I got into Safe mode somehow - how do I get out of Safe mode!?
What are the specifications for the 850C TVs? (Below are Marketing sp
75"
65"
55"
I am an intense and fearless TV geek, how do I get into the Service Men
[Captdan27]
Do you have any info on international versions of the X850C, the 55X85
[Captdan27] See pic to the right showing the missing HDR Picture mode label in the settin
Can I flash TV software from another region/country on my TV?
[Captdan27]
Can I sideload the Amazon app if it isn't included on my TV outside the
[Cashcro]
What about the 2016 4K models the "D" series - any info?
X850C General FAQ - Read this first!
What is this spreadsheet, anyway? How do I find what I'm looking for in it?
It's a combination of X850C owner wisdom and information and links from external "professio
~7000 posts (and that's just on one of the three threads on the X850C series) on AVS forums!
(Search) on a PC to open a search window and type in you search term. You can only search
contents below to help you find the info you need.
To get the most benefit from this document, review the information in this tab first
For mobile users: There is a free MS Excel app in the Android and Apple app stores (and oth
your device that works. Note that if you are viewing this FAQ on a mobile device, some of the
What info is included in the "tabs" in this FAQ?
1. Read this first!: Core information about the X850C, standards it supports &
2. Picture Settings: Recommended picture settings from other X850C users an
3. HDR FAQ: Key info what HDR (High Dynamic Range) is, how the X850C suppo
4. DirecTV 4K Ready FAQ: Everything you need to know about the DirecTV 4K
5. 3D FAQ: Recommended 3D glasses, supported 3D formats, 3D sources, pictu
6. Troubleshooting: Known issues & Troubleshooting solutions and work-aroun
7. Other Useful Stuff: REALLY good stuff that doesn't fit in on other tabs.
The info in this FAQ will help you get the most out of your TV - enjoy!
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coverage even if you didn't buy your TV from Costco (5 years coverage
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Where are the main 2015 Android TV threads on AVS forums?
Primary thread: Sony 2015 xbr-55x850c, xbr-65x850c, xbr-75x850c owners-club - o
75" thread: Official 2015 Sony xbr-75x850c ultra hd 4k led 3d hdtv owners thread -
2015 "C-series" thread: Sony 2015 x900c-x910c-x930c-x940c-x850c-x830c - a mixtu
X930C and X940C Series thread
Sony Support US phone numbers: 1-800-222-7669; 1-239-245-6354
Why don't the links to individual AVS forum posts in this spreadsheet don't w
I don't know! Links to other sites work fine, but links to the individual posts on AVS only work
into your browser address field. If anyone knows how to fix this problem, please let me know!
the field w/the URL and then use your mouse to highlight and copy the link from the cell edit
copy from the field as well.
Why read Virtualrain's post on picture settings before you modify your pictur
Virtualrain (one of our X850C owners) has put together a post in one of the X850C threads tha
and their impact on your viewing experience. Read his post through first before you make any
tweaking your own settings. You'll find the link to his post below, and on the "X850C Picture S
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1985298-sony-2015-xbr-55x850c-xbr-65x8
I have upgrade feveris Android 6.0/Marshmallow coming to the X850C?!
[prbear8]
Yes!! As of 12/6/2016 the X850C 55", 65", and 75" inch sets were updated to Marshmallow! See the So
The default settings that TV's ship with tend to be way too bright and way too bluedesigned
settings, and may be initially appealing in general ("Bright is best, right?"). When picture sett
look darker. It's up to you if you prefer that or want more of a "showroom" picture. What's bes
someone else likes best in their home on their TV. That said, it's worth giving the alternate se
Obviously, the recommended settings in this spreadsheet are from people w/varied levels of e
in varied viewing conditions. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary), i.e., what someone else uses an
Probably best to use settings from a similar panel (55" are IPS, 65" and 75" are VA), from an o
- which aren't always evident in their settings comments.
Can I have multiple customized picture mode settings? E.g., use a customized
HDMI1 and a customized version of Standard for gaming on HDMI3? And wha
Yes. You can customize the detailed settings for each Picture mode, and you can choose a diff
categories of apps on the TV that Sony has set up.
To customize picture mode settings, select an input (and turn on the device on that input), or
(Action menu>Picture adjustments). Select your desired Picture mode and customize the sett
settings are separate for each input (e.g., HDMI, component, composite, etc.), and for each of
below.)
NOTE: HDR picture mode is the only Picture mode that is auto-engaged. If you play HDR conte
switch to HDR picture mode. So you can't choose to watch HDR content using Cinema Pro or a
mode for each input and app categories to your liking so that when it's engaged it will use yo
Are the detailed settings for each Picture mode stored separately for each in
Yes - each Picture mode can be customized for each input - HDMI 1-4, Component, and also fo
screen. For example, if you customize Cinema Pro picture mode on HDMI1, none of those chan
other input or app.
NOTE: Picture modes may be more than just the visible settings:
[DoctorM] "...even with identical settings under Custom and Cinema Pro mode, there is a dis
in 4k). Cinema Pro is softer and the reds are shifted."
[Beeper] Cinema (movie) mode on most if not all brands has always had a softer picture (etc
service menu settings. With exactly the same user picture settings, cinema (movie) mode sho
[Z1-B] On my 55X850C using AVS HD709 calibration sharpness test patterns to test /set shar
same in all the picture modes & all 4 HDMI inputs I've set ,same thing with a 50 black level fo
AVS HD709 mp4 video. Results are same same from the PC at 4:2:0 video levels @1080p /HD
hdd or a flash drive .
It's not clear yet if this really happens, but if you copy the detailed settings from one picture m
the same on both modes if a Picture mode has service menu or FW-based settings that will m
same settings.
See below for more info, especially about Picture mode settings for apps - it's a litt
Are Picture (and Sound adjutment settings) handled the same way for inputs
[Civuck]
Yes. The separation of picture settings (and sound settings also work this way) applies to inpu
separate Picture Mode settings and Sound Adjustment settings can be accessed from the Acti
- Apps
- Apps (Video)
- Apps (Photo)
- HDMI-1
- HDMI-2
- HDMI-3
- HDMI-4
- Component
From Civuck: When you go to the Picture Adjustments or Sound adjustments menus, (Action m
adjustments) the menu will indicate at the top {below the "Picture Adjustments" or "Sound Ad
For example, the PIcture adjustments menus for the HDMI1 input and for Netflix (which is in th
App categories: Sony assigns each app installed on the TV to one of three categories: 1) "A
know that Sony's pre-installed apps like Amazon, Netflix, and the Videos app are all in "Apps (
When you change the settings for an app in a category, all apps in that category will use thos
each app you use to confirm that you know which category it is in and what settings it is usin
Remember, you do not need to select HDR picture mode to play back HDR content on any inp
engage HDR picture mode automatically. See the HDR FAQ tab for more info.
What are the recommended steps to adjust picture settings for each input an
(And remember, the same applies to Sound settings.)
Since picture settings are saved separately for each input and app group (see above for the li
desired Picture mode and adjust the Picture mode settings for each input or app gr
First, you select the HDMI input w/the device connected to it turned on, or the app for which y
Action menu to access Picture adjustments (and Sound adjustments). The steps for Picture ad
1. Select the input or app you want to adjust settings for (and remember this appli
a. If it's an HDMI or other input, turn on the device on that input as well so you ca
b. If it's an app, just open the app, you don't have to start playing a video.
3. Select Action menu>Picture adjustments - you'll see the input name (e.g., HDMI1
top of the Picture adjustments menu
4. Make your changes and then exit the Picture adjustments menu. That's it.
For example: To adjust picture settings for the Apps (Video) group, open Netflix or Amazon (y
then select Action menu>Picture adjustments and make your changes. The changes will then
display from the app stops or changes when you access the Action menu>Picture settings, th
To adjust picture settings for your DVR connected on HDMI1, select your HDMI1 input, turn on
adjustments and make your changes.
NOTE: [Zsh] If the Action menu doesn't respond (e.g., no reaction when selecting Picture adj
(long press on Power button on remote) to return functionality to normal. If that doesn't work
If you came here from the link in the Picture Settings tab, click here to return.
Changing HDR picture mode is a just a little different - see this post. Basically, you need t
What else should consider reviewing about TV calibration before I start chang
Read the FlatPanel.com calibration tips
And the CNet calibration FAQ
AVS Forums: AVS HD 709 - Blu-ray & MP4 Calibration thread
Tweakguides.com guide to LCD TVs, just a ton of info here, set aside a day or two to review
What does the Color Space setting do, should I set it to BT2020 (the highest s
Best setting in most cases is Auto. See Virtualrain's post on color space (link below). Excerpt
"Playing back 709 content using a 2020 color space will exaggerate the colors resulting in ove
Playing 2020 content using a 709 color space setting should wash out the colors as the larger
saturated colors in 2020 will map to less saturated versions in 709.
Bottom line: I would leave the color space setting on Auto and the TV will most certainly pick
Virtualrain's post on Color Space
What is "Football" picture mode (set via the "Football" button on the remote,
Football mode is a "special" picture mode that Sony provides direct access to via the remote a
settings/motion processing intended to improve the experience watching sports. One of the e
picture which some love, and others (dare I say the larger camp) say results in an over-satura
w/picture settings.
The info at the URL below also indicates that there is some different sound processing going o
noticed/commented on this before it was pointed out, so the effect may be pretty minor/unno
What is Football mode and what does it do (aside from make the TV so bright and over-dri
The auto picture mode setting might help. [Civuck]It works by detecting the frame-rate
eg. 24fps = Cinema Home or 30fps+ = Game. I'm not sure if this is a Global setting or per-inp
24fps content - it is always Cinema Home.
[Nazgulled]I've been using this for a while now. It works, but unfortunately it's not something
*When a 24p source is detected it switches to Cinema Home and when the video stops playin
This is not always working, sometimes it remains at Cinema Home. Making this feature useles
maybe Sony broke it on a firmware upgrade, I don't know.
*It should let you pick which mode you want for 24p sources and not lock it to Cinema Home.
Custom? You can't auto pick that mode for 24p. This doesn't affect me personally, but it's a st
*I want Cinema Home mode for more than just 24p sources. Yes, most Movies and TV shows a
like YouTube or something? I'd still like to have Cinema Home for all my video sources, that's w
feature won't work for those because they can have 30fps or 60fps or whatever.
*It would me you'd have to pick Game mode for everything else, like the SHIELD's UI. Well, I h
with reality creation) and that looks good for the games I stream, it doesn't look good at all fo
in the launcher, all the movie posters in Kodi and etc, they look really bad.
I'd rather have a quick button to switch picture modes on the remote instead of going through
How can I confirm that my set is displaying 4K? How can I find out the resolu
does the "Display" option show less than 4K/UHD (e.g., 1080P or 720P, etc.) o
The TV always displays all content in UHD/4K. Since the TV is fixed resolution device everyth
and there is no setting you need to adjust.
If your source content is less than 4K (e.g., 1080) the TV upscales it to 4K. If your source is 4K
When you press the Display button (on the International version there is no "Display" button,
the TV isn't showing it's own display resolution, it is telling you the native resolution of the inp
which would appear if 1080 content is being sent to the TV.
So if you're playing something from your cable box that it outputs at 1080i, the Display comm
then upscales the content to 4K (2160) of course. (See the example image to the right.)
So the only time the Display option will show 2160 (4K) will be when the content you are send
On some screens/inputs/apps the Display button does not work - no information will display. T
Why do I have black bars on my TV screen above and below, or to the left and
[King Richard]
The TV display has exactly 8,294,400 pixels (3,840 horizontal x 2160 vertical, usually referred to as UH
those pixels are of a fixed size (they cannot change size).
When you display something on the TV that is of a different resolution than the TV's native/fixed resol
the TV will automatically upscale the lower resolution content to the TV's "4K" resolution.
If the input signal (from your DVR, DVD/BD, or computer) has a different aspect ratio than the TV's 16:
"back bars" at the top and bottom or on the left and right).
So if you are seeing "black bars" then either of the two issues below is the cause:
1. The input signal has a different "aspect ratio" than the TV's 16:9 aspect ratio. This is the
bars above and below due to "widescreen" resolution used in theaters, while older lower resolution "st
on the left and right. (Most modern TV shows and some movies are 16:9 ratio and will perfectly fit the
2. The settings on your TV are wrong - should only be an issue if you have changed the TV
screen" should be turned on.
Does the TV support 4K video from YouTube, Amazon, and Netflix apps, and o
Yes. The TV supports both VP9 and HVEC codecs required to support 4K playback from YouTub
"Yes. I get 4K streaming from Netflix on my Roku 4, TiVo Bolt, FireTv, and the Sony Tv apps." [
On Netflix, will likely have to update your account to receive 4K/UHD video - there i
Roku: Keep in mind that the ROKU 4 does not do HDR at this point. It is unknown as to wheth
Roku 4 has a problem it "red push" when set to output 2160 resolution. There is really no nee
all of your needs. [ggw2000]
Are there screen settings to manage overscan (e.g., set to full pixel, adjust d
[VirtualRain][Aaronwt][Pansar][Z1-B]
To review/update your Screen settings (Defaults are: Auto wide: On, 4:3 default: Off, Auto disp
display = On): Full pixel, Screen position (grayed out):
1. Select the input on which you want to review or change the Screen settings
2. Turn on the device connected to that input turned on so the port registers as active, i.e., tu
connected to that port so that something appears on-screen and you don't have the "no input
3. Go to Home>Settings>Picture and Display>Screen - the Screen menu will show the input y
the settings, including the Display area option. Turn of the Auto display area setting for acces
To view the Screen settings for a different port you have to select the desired input and make
the Home>Settings>Picture and Display>Screen menu option again.
The Display area setting may have either of two different sets of options depending on the sig
1. +1, Normal, -1
2. Full pixel, Normal, -1
[Aaronwt] With 2160P60 content you can't adjust the Display area setting, it defau
support and they replied that this is the way it should be on 4k 2160p signals. And
complain.
What about [Z1-B] Inoverscan
adjusting this case (2160p input
settings forand
thecan't
TVsadjust the TV
Android setting) use the
apps?
[Aaronwt]
You cannot access this setting for the TV's Android apps on the Home screen. However, this s
According to the Netflix test patterns it doesn't look like there is any overscan (at least in the
Netflix app looks like what I see from external devices Netflix with the 2160P encodes. Which
They all show 3840 lines in the horizontal and 2160 lines in the vertical. If there were oversca
image has.
Should I let my DVD player, DVR, media player, etc., upscale content to 4K, or
The general recommendation is to let the TV do the upscaling. Upscaling from the X850C (or
over upscaling from a connected device. Of course, there may be some exceptions to this. Bu
do it's thing.
[Z1-B] FWIW every reviewer I've read says the Sony X1 upcaler is the best one period outside
that may cost more than most of the TV's anyway. OTOH they say the better SUHD Samsung
players and the 4K STB are using inferior Media Tek (or other ) SoC parts and not the best pro
[Aaronwt] My 850C does a better job upscaling to 4K than my BDP-S6500 and BDP-S6200. My
those players too.
To allow the TV to upscale content, turn off upscaling on your connected device - you want it t
resolution.
To confirm what resolution the TV is getting from your connected device, you can press the Di
does not work in all cases) display the resolution of the source content in the upper-left corne
content being sent to the TV is displayed (e.g., 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, etc.). The Dis
the TV, which is always 4K (2160) - the TV always upscales all content that isn't 4K up to 4K
sending 4K content (and is doing the upscaling, unless the content you're sending is 4K).
What are the "best" Motionflow settings in Picture settings? How do I get rid
[VirtualRain]
MotionFlow (Smoothness) is for creating in-between frames for 24p/film content to smooth o
Effect (overly smooth high-framerate/video camera like movement). Set too low (or
may seem to move across the screen too quickly with gaps in where it is located on
you'll see jutter without MotionFlow.) (As an aside, the Clearness portion of MotionFlow reduc
motion and smeared.)
Cinemotion:
Low: Process IP (Interlaced-Progress) conversions appropriate for movies and computer graph
Medium: Process IP (Interlaced-Progressive) conversions appropriate for movies and compute
remove judder.
High: Process IP (Interlaced-Progressive) conversions appropriate for a wide selection of video
judder.
While the distinctions between the levels is a bit confusing, the processing of interlaced-progr
frames/second progressive-only content.
'Additional frame compensations to remove judder' suggests this is 'MotionFlow' for interlaced
We can deduce from the onscreen help that non-progressive (interlaced & progressive/interla
Graphic) input is converted to a standard frame rate & additional frames (on Medium and Hig
Sony Motionflow and Cinemotion post on AVS Forum - detailed info on Motionflow and Cine
What about the Cinemotion setting - what is it important for?
[Z1-B][LCDTVbuyingguide.com review of 75X850C]
[Z1-B]
Cinemotion is for 24p content not 720p/60 or 1080i/30, 1080p/30/60, and otherwise lies dorm
from an extender, DVD/BD player, or embedded app that supports 24p and passes it to the TV
The Cinemotion Picture Setting is located in the Picture Setting Adjustments menu, under Adv
Motionflow setting has an impact on whether your picture is over-clarified by eliminating too m
Soap Opera Effect. It's easy to prevent on the X850C.
All you have to do to minimize SOE is keep the Motionflow Smoothness setting at level
found some horizontal banding from the Clearness setting on the 65"/75" sets, so r
those sets if you see horzontal banding] and tune the Cinemotion setting to Off or Lo
Cinemotion only provides frame compensation to remove judder at the top two settings (Med
not nearly as pronounced and distracting in the X850C as with many TVs on the market such
Does this TV support PIP (Picture in Picture) or PAP (Picture and Picture)?
[Atomic Dog][Beeper]
Yes, but there are the usual significant limitations to the uses of the feature. It is called "Twin
Action menu.
INPUT----------HDMI---Component----Composite----OTA/Antenna----APPS
.
HDMI------------no-----------no--------------yes---------------yes--------------no (no 4K)
.
Component----no-----------no---------------no--------------maybe-----------no (I would try this to test an
.
Composite----yes-----------no---------------no----------------no--------------no (Surveillance camera or Po
.
OTA/Ant-------yes----------no---------------no-----------------no-------------no
.
APPS------------no-----------no---------------no-----------------no-------------no (Hopefully, this may chang
Beeper: The maybe designations are because some prior model year Sony display instruction
The main picture can be video or PC timing. The subpicture (inset) must be video timing.
There is a Sony doc on this feature, that has some limited information on it at: https://us.en.k
%20ready
According to specifications, these TVs CAN play 4k content if sent to it, but center cut (128 ve
haven't tested this.
The other alternative is to make the aspect ratio 1.9:1 using 4096x2160 which also isn't attra
(current BDs and broadcast TV would be pillarboxed). IIRC, this is what is used in 4k cameras
since there's no sources for that resolution.
As such, new TVs are SUPPOSED to be called UHD NOT 4k, but nobody told the marketing peo
lawsuit in the future... and it would be huge.
Edit: Revised after checking the spec sheet. Pretty sure previous UHD from Sony handled 4k a
It's all in the Sony TV video specs (old news) this is nothing new they will accept a 4096 x216
probably a lot of other sets will also some PC's or maybe workstations and 4K camera are 409
are or were actually 4096x2160 and obviusly have to re scale a 3840 x2160P signal to 4096 x
How do I reset picture settings to return to stock settings for a picture mode
settings to factory default settings.)
[Sonoma13]
Select the PIcture mode you wish to reset - the reset works for the currently selected picture m
Select the Advanced settings option on the Picture mode settings
Scroll down and highlight the Reset option at the bottom of the Advanced Settings menu (belo
Scroll to the right and highlight "Reset - Return all picture settings to factory default"
Press OK/Enter to confirm picture settings reset. It will reset the settings for the currently sele
Note: If you simply press OK/Enter when the Reset menu option on the left is highlighted, noth
The TV supports 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4. To enable this, go to Settings - External Inputs - HDMI Sig
(http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850c)
See next question for more info on cables...you should not need to by new HDMI cables for th
HDMI.org: "Can existing HDMI cables support the higher bandwidths of HDMI 2.0 S
Yes, existing High Speed HDMI Cables (wire only) will support the new higher band
defined a new, more efficient signaling method, for speeds above 1.4b limits (10.2G
over existing High Speed HDMI Wire Cables."
There really are only 5 different types of HDMI cables. Speed limitations are at the source dev
players need to comply with the standard in order to take any benefit. This allows us to have
of dual video streams to multiple users on the same screen". There is no such thing as an "H
Standard speed
Standard speed with Ethernet
automotive
High Speed - should work
High Speed with Ethernet - should work
As long as your HDMI cable is referred to as a "High Speed" (Category 2) cable, it should w
for all purposes, as long as it is a high speed cable.
From HDMI.org: "The High Speed HDMI cable is designed and tested to handle video resolutio
technologies such as 4K, 3D, and Deep Color." "HDMI 2.0 features will work with existing HDM
(2160p) video formats, will require [e.g., work with] existing High Speed HDMI cables (Catego
Users have reported success w/cables labeled HDMI 1.3 and HDMI 1.4, don't just throw out yo
How should I set the HDMI input setting for Dynamic Range (Auto, Full, & Lim
[400MHz MAN, Beeper, VirtualRain]
Full: Full is for RGB data from a gaming device or PC used to play video games. Don't use the
from any device, including a PC or gaming device, as Video colors will be washed out on the F
color even when gaming - you'll need to confirm if your PC is capable of and is set to outpu
Limited: Use for devices that you use only to play Video content (movies, TV shows, etc.). Vi
so any source playing such content can be on an HDMI input set to Limited. Good for a DVR,
Auto: Best use is for a gaming device used for both gaming and playing video content. You c
outputs Full color, or if you have multiple devices on the same HDMI input that output both Fu
color flag in the HDMI signal and apply the correct setting. Important: Auto won't may no
back video - the computer GPU may send the Full color flag even though the content is limit
The false assumption that many people make when they get a display that has a setting for d
setting will provide a better picture (even though they are playing movie/TV/DVD video, which
washed out picture. Then they readjust the picture settings (back to Limited) and get back a n
improvement.
How about the HDMI Signal Format setting (Standard vs Enhanced)? When s
[400MHz MAN, Beeper, VirtualRain, Aaronwt]
HDMI Signal Format: Home>Settings>External inputs>HDMI signal format. Choices
HDMI ports on the TV can support UHD HDR, 10 bit, 4K, and 4:4:4 chroma. Standard forma
limit the timing and resolution to 4K @60p 4:2:0 8bit
Enhanced format is required for 4K/UHD and HDR-capable devices (like the new Sam
10bit video, for advanced PC and 4K formats like 1080p /60 4:4:4 ,2160p/60 4:4:4.
Only use Enhanced format for sources that support it/require it, don't enable it for a 1080p
devices won't know how to interpret and use the enhanced connection. Many legacy devices
it changes the EDID data in the TV to enable enhanced support. Your non-Enhanced mode cap
Enhanced, or they might not.
The TV HDMI Enhanced setting advertises the following additional supported timings to the co
4K (50, 60Hz): YCbCr 4:4:4/8 bit, YCbCr 4:2:2 /8bit/10bit/12bit, YCbCr 4:2:0 / 10bit or RGB sign
the input to accept 2160P60. You do need it on to accept a 10 bit signal though. None of my 6
problem receiving 3840 x 2160P at 60Hz from my 4K devices. Like a Roku 4, TiVo Bolt, and the
A high-speed HDMI cable is required: Your HDMI cable must meet the high speed HDMI 2.0 sp
throughput for HDR. You don't need a "2.0 HDMI cable," you just need a "high-speed" (18Gbps
[Virtualrain] I tried both HDMI modes and looked at the display modes enumerated by the Inte
different. How? I'm not sure. The exact same display modes were available (which may not b
Mac Mini can support over HDMI... Everything from 480i on up to 4096x2160 (which I'm not su
2160p 60Hz modes which the TV Enhanced mode claims to support but my Mac does not. So
not very insightful.
Does the TV support 10 bit content?
Yes it does. Based on some recent testing (see next question on 10-bit testing).
We are still not 100% clear if it is a 10 bit panel, (as opposed to an 8 bit panel that handles 10
strongly to it being a 10 bit panel. 10 bit content appears smooth and "normal" (smooth gradi
HDMI Version:
Up to 3Gbps: 4:2:0 (8bit)
(for HDMI 1/2/3/4)
But we also know the set accepts 10 bit input over HDMI. (Ken Ross) posted he was ab
changing Settings>External inputs>HDMI signal format to "Enhanced" for the HDMI input his
I'm not the trusting type, can I test some 10 bit content on my TV?
[SnipeUout][Civuck][Aaronwt]
Yes, you can test! See the links below (thanks to SnipeUout to 10-bit gradient test patterns
appear smooth (10-bit supported) when played from USB drive via built-in Videos app, VLC m
players VTEN and Sheild content was stepped (10-bit not supported), but that was due to lack
[Civuck] These look perfectly smooth from dark to light on my 65" 850C using the built-in So
see discrete stepping at all. Does that confirm the 850C as having a true 10-bit panel?
EDIT: Those same 10-bit test clips when played back with Kodi or VLC on my Nvidia Shield to t
HDMI port the Sheild is connected to is set to Enhanced. I think this is due to the Nvidia Shield
playing them with the Kodi app installed on the 850C, the playback was completely messed u
off a network NAS.
[Aaronwt] I just tried this on my Sony 65X850C. I thought the 850C model was supposed to
test pattern. It is smooth. Let me use my VTEN media player to see what it looks like. So far I
the VLC player and the default video player on the TV.
EDIT: The Archos video app also shows the same smooth results.
EDIT: from my VTEN media player it is showing discrete steps though an HDMI input. Although
the HDMI input wouldn't it need to be set to "Enhanced"? Which allows a 10 bit input? I only h
After some quick research the VTEN supposedly only outputs 10bit at up to 30P and only with
can't force it to those. And with the auto video output it's apparently outputting 4:4:4 which it
So you can customize sound settings for each input and app category that you use - changes
on other inputs/app categories.
Note: There is no option to completely disable the TV speakers. In some cases when using AR
switch back to the TV speakers, and Audio System has to be manually re-selected.
The most this TV will output is DD 5.1 and DTS, and stereo PCM. HD audio - DTS HD, DD+, Do
convert other formats to 5.1.
Note: Formats like Dolby True HD should be sent directly to a receiver via HDMI, not through t
Dolby True HD (and DTS-HD MA), I bitstream to my speaker bar. I only use the TV for the on b
only DD or stereo pcm audio (or DTS-although I haven't used any of the internal apps and see
How do I use ARC to output sound from the TV to the receiver or soundbar ov
[virtualrain][bp787][Aaronwt]
ARC allows you to use one HDMI cable to send sound from the TV to your reciever, and send v
to send audio to a soundbar.) To use ARC you mustconnect the HDMI cable to HDMI4 o
the TV over that cable, and the TV can send audio to the receiver (or soundbar) on that same
etc.) the sound from those apps will get to from the TV to your receiver or soundbar over that
When using ARC with the X850C it is common to see both the TV's and your receiver's volume
visual issue, and there is othing you can do about it, it's an annoyance that you will have to ig
NOTE: When using ARC you may need to completely reboot or power off both the tv
First try rebooting them (long press on Power button on TV to reboot TV, turn recei
unplug the TV and receiver, wait 30 seconds, then plug back in. sometimes there's
ALSO: HDMI-CEC has a limit on the number of devices of given types that can be ad
devices: e.g. BD Player, PS4, K8500 = 3. So if you have four HDMI-CEC player devic
There is no "special" version optical cable required - optical cables are pretty much all the sam
different speeds or features like with HDMI cables.
You can check your optical audio cable at each end - they can come w/small protective caps o
the caps from both ends.
[bp787] ARC and Optical do not support ATMOS. On any TV. EDIT: I have not tested ARC w
problem with 48Khz, 5.1 pcm content from my XBOne.
In general ARC may provide superior sound over Optical out, but only if your sources are mak
specs appear to show it can handle up to 5.1, 192khz PCM over ARC, while optical is typically
Also, with HDMI-CEC (e.g., Bravia Sync) and ARC, you shouldn't need to manually switch anyt
automatically switch to sending audio from the TV to the receiver when you start using the TV
Known Potential ARC issues: 1) Duplicate volume displays on TV: You may see two vo
volume. [Aaronwt] With my Sony speaker bar, if I use the TV remote for volume, it only shows
shows it on it's own display. If I use the speaker bar remote for volume, then it shows two volu
There is no known work-around to keep both from displaying. Just a visual nusiance, does not
to TV speakers: In some cases users have reported that the TV will occassionally switch bac
is communicating w/the receiver. No known work-around.
Yes. To enable sound from TV speakers and headphones at the same time (not available if yo
Menu path: Home>Settings>Sound>Headphone speaker link. Choices: Speakers on, Sp
the Audio Out/Headphone Jack and TV speakers at the same time. Requires that the Speak
To keep headphone volume on and just mute the TV speakers when the Mute button is presse
Home>Settings>Sound>Headphone Volume; Set to FIXED.
What audio formats can the TV handle/output on HMDI/ARC and Optical?
[DoctorM]
Today's exciting fun involves our TV's ability to handle various audio formats using samples fo
TrueHD and DD Plus; Kodi and Sony's own video App acted differently:
Any audio not DD, DTS or 2-ch PCM did not output anything in Sony's app... with the exceptio
DD 5.1. Examining the file on my PC it appears to actually be 640kbps 5.1 so that is in no way
extracted the core, but I didn't think to.)
In Kodi, any audio not DD, DTS or 2-ch PCM was pushed out as 2-channel PCM with audio pass
This is the important bit-- Using the LPCM 5.1 (48khz) audio test clip, Sony's app played no au
of whether I used Optical Out or HDMI-ARC.
ARC does not play LPCM 5.1. ARC is not superior to Optical in audio support.
Maybe (and this is pretty remote) the TV has some Frankensteined version of S/PDIF for ARC t
soundbar that recognizes that Frankenstein format.
My 2 year old Denon plays no audio and I suspect neither does any other AVR.
The second possibility is it is an app limitation. In which case, you would need an external sou
then send via ARC to an AVR or soundbar.
Obviously, that is only really useful if you are sending it to a soundbar. Otherwise, why wouldn
http://kodi.wiki/view/Samples
Be aware these settings only effect the internal speakers or output when you have the TV set
The lag on the 850C is good but not exceptional. And the lag without game mode is very good
mode. But when game mode is off i had some issues.
According to Rtings, the lowest lag for 2015 TVs they tested were the Vizio M series. Which ha
103ms. (http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-...ults/input-lag)
When gaming you also need to look at motion blur. The 850C has little motion Blur, while that
The consensus from owners has been positive on gaming on the X850C.
Can I reduce the input lag more through changes in Settings?
[coltsbro84]
For those who play video games or want as little input lag as possible, I successfully cut the in
I wanted to better test the lag input on my Sony x850c since I noticed a slight delay when pla
enabling black adjust, contrast enhancer, live color, or reality creation effect lag input. First tw
15ms - 16ms input lag on the x850c. My settings are as follows: turn everything off in game m
external inputs > hdmi signal format > turn on enhanced format. Then go to picture & display
developer options >hdmi optimization > change to best framerate. The first two show a cons
input lag on game mode, but having everything turned on in the settings except for motionflo
Use another launcher: "Hal launcher" is one of the more popular AndroidTV launchers, it is av
your TV for other AndroidTV launcher options. Try searching on "launcher" or "home screen."
launcher any more, so you have to launch your preferred launcher manually.
Modify Sony Launcher: You can also disable some elements in the stock home screen if you do
notifications in Settings>Apps. From jasonh_24:
To turn off the featured apps list on the home screen: "Go into Settings>Apps and find the app
and then the option to turn off notifications. This will disable the featured apps section on the
there you can disable any of the other Sony specific apps if you chose to in the same way. I fin
running better ever since.
If you experience any isnstability you can always just re-enable an app if you want to later. If
that sony put in there it wont do any damage. Mine actually runs better now. Its just basically
installed apps that you will never use, disable them. This will keep them from running in the b
Yup! You can remote the Featured Apps section, and remove teh Sony Select apps from your h
This still leaves a row of Featured Content next to Now Playing. Is there any way to
Yes.
Go to Settings > System preferences > Home Screen > Recommendations row and turn off al
Can I install apps on the TV from the Play Store from my laptop or desktop co
Yes. You can log into the Play Store from your laptop and then add apps from there.
You'll see a message that says "<app name> will be installed on your device soon." . You sho
Why isn't an app I want to use available in the Play Store on the TV?
Apps won't show up in the Play Store on the TV unless they have been certified by the develo
An app needs a "10 Foot interface" (e.g., can be controlled via a tv remote control, formats its
before a developer would want to let customers load it on their TVs. Otherwise they'd get all k
the experience on a TV was confusing/hard/broken.
The app you're looking for hasn't been updated for use on Android TV so it won't show up whe
go to the Play Store on your web browser on your laptop, you'll see the app listed, but if you t
you'll see that your TV is listed as not supporting that app.
Alternatives:
- Wait, maybe the app will be updated for AndroidTV
- Find an alternative app that supports AndroidTV
- You could use the app from your phone if the app supports Chromecast - you can cast it to t
the Chromecast app on your phone to see if the option to cast your screen to the TV worked -
the other app and use it.
- Sideload the app on your TV (this requires you getting the APK off your phone (requires Roo
sideloaded apps will update when updates are available in the Play Store. See the info below
Can I sideload apps on my TV? I want to run an app on my TV that isn't availa
Yes - follow the instructions at the link below for an easy to follow process to sideload Android
AndroidTV device) but the same steps will work well on our TVs.
Note that if the app doesn't have a 10-foot interface that works well with the remote(s), you m
able to control it properly on your TV. See below for other sideload issues.
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/android-tv-guides/how-to-sideload-apps-apk-files-on-th
Once I sideload an app, will there be any issues?
Issues with sideloading apps.
1. Requires a rooted Android device to pull the apk of off, or you have to find the APK on the internet,
2. If you sideload, you will probably need to use the Sony Sideview app's TV control options, or a kebo
the app properly, as it won't be configured to work w/your standard remote. If you have the Touch rem
3. You won't see the app in your normal Home screen on the TV. You'll also need to install (from the Pl
app) like "Sideload Launcher" or "HAL" - those will allow you to see apps that aren't enabled for Andro
If I'm in a region that doesn't get the Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu apps, can I si
[Captdan27]
Yes, you can sideload the Amazon app and it will work (assuming you have a US prime acct). Hulu wil
that allows you to trick the playstore into thinking you are coming from the US.
The Amazon app will work for UHD, but won't work for HDR, unfortunately. Currently unknown if both
US on Netflix.
Services like Getflix appear to be geared to only streaming services and likely won't help with Play Sto
APK for sideloading - current version of the Amazon Prime app from US TV as of 2/9
Can I do anything to get an app that isn't Android TV certified to appear on m
Get the APK2TV app from XDA Forums in the NVIDiA Shield forum and use it to modify non-A
"APK2TV will attempt to decompile, alter and recompile (with a fake signature) an Android AP
friendly...The resulting APKs are "unsigned" - which means they will not be recognized by Goo
work. In some cases, the app itself may not work because it sees itself as "tampered with" - e
Don't ask in AVS forums about this, the users/experts are in the Nvidia Shield forum, and in th
below to find out more about the APK2TV app.
NVIDIA Shield Forum APK2TV thread (On NVIDIA's user forum)
Can I display content from my Apple/iOS devices on the X850C? Can I use Air
[Tron49]
From Apple forums: You can download the iMediaShare app in iphone, connect your TV an
phone contents on TV. Reported to work well by serveral people on the forum. "Thx for the p
utilize the screen mirroring input on my Bravia."
[Trun49] Do you have the Apple TV box?... I believe you need that box to interface with the TV
apple devices through "AirPlay"... otherwise, the app on your device for example, must have b
your TV screen... in my case "YouTube" on my iPhone or iPad or MacBookPro will allow you to d
BUT if you purchased the Apple TV box then all content from your Apple devices will be sent t
If you are using the browser Chrome then you can use Google Cast to cast from your Mac
below.
How-to: Setup and Use Chromecast to stream your content from a Mac
Can I display content from my Android devices on the X850C? Can I use Chro
You can use Chromecast feature in any app that supports it to cast from that apps. Such as Y
Chomecast app itself, which includes an option to cast the screen of your Android device to th
Chromecast support. You'll see your TV as an available device when you start Chromecast in
You can also install Google Cast in the Chrome Browser and cast any content in your browser
your Chrome browser to install the extension.
The ethernet port is 100mbps, plenty fast for anything you are going to do on the TV, and mo
connection (Wi-Fi or Ethernet) should provide all the speed you need, as long as your Wi-Fi ne
Roku, AppleTV, etc.) that you have used in your home, it will work for the TV as well.
Differences in power usage: Note that when using an Ethernet connection to the TV, Sony
more power when in Standby mode. Billdag did some testing w/a power meter comparing po
TV uses lowest power in standby when connected via Wi-Fi.
Normal operation......no difference in power usage between Ethernet and Wi-Fi. About 100W.
Off - Ethernet: 22W constant
Off - Wi-Fi: 22W going down to 0W after a few minutes
Why does Windows tell me that my USB thumb drive needs to be scanned eve
it to my PC?
[DoctorM]
We don't know why, but we have a fix! DoctorM discovered that using NTFS format on a USB thumb d
that was popping up every time a drive was disconeced from the TV and connected to a computer. I a
NTFS (windows read/write, Mac Read only) or exFAT (Windows, Mac, and Linux read/write) format on y
Unknown. We did hear from one user who had a 250 GB hard drive connected.
Also, he found that: ...USB will not work with high data rate video if connected with a long USB extens
inside my wall. HD video was suddenly stuttering. After some troubleshooting, figured out the length o
done the trick. I just connected it to one of the side USB connections and buried the Hard drive behind
Are the USB ports fast enough to play high bit-rate 4K content? Do I need to
[Aaronwt][billdag]
[Aaronwt] You should be able to play 4K content from the USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 ports. USB 2.0 is more
bitrate limit is of the TV.
I've tried some 4K videos (h.264) at around a 100Mb/s bitrate from both the USB 2.0 ports and the US
USB 2.0 speeds are easily more than double a 100Mb/s bitrate.
[billdag] I like using the VLC player for 1080P and MX Player for 2160P. I just dumped a quick 100mb/
hard drive and attempted to play the file using the 850C USB3.0 input. Here are my results:
Sony does say in the Setting menu that enabling remote start will increase power usage.
Overall, settings that may increase standby power usage inlude enabling the following optional setting
- Download software updates in the background
- Update apps in the background
- Remote Start enabled
How do you program the TV key on the Sony remote to go to a specific input?
[DoctorM]
Home>Settings>External Inputs>Customize TV Key
You can program the remote to set the TV button to go to any of your inputs.
https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/43095/kw/directv%20ready/c/65,
Can I use my Sony remote to control my receiver or DVD/BD player attached v
First, ensure Bravia Sync is enabled on your TV, and then enable "HDMI-CEC" (or whatever yo
devices. If they are connected via HDMI, then things should "just work." As noted, the genera
companies have their own names to confuse us, of course:
AOC: E-link
Hitachi: HDMI-CEC (Thank you, Hitachi!)
LG: SimpLink
Mitsubishi: NetCommand for HDMI
Onkyo: RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI)
Panasonic: HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, or VIERA Link
Philips: EasyLink
Pioneer: Kuro Link
Runco International: RuncoLink
Samsung: Anynet+
Sharp: Aquos Link
Sony: BRAVIA Sync
Toshiba: CE-Link or Regza Link
Vizio: CEC (Thank you, Vizio!)
Nice article on HDMI-CEC here
Is there any way to get the included remote to control volume on my audio re
If you aren't using CEC/Bravia Sync then you can control your receiver volume using the IR Bl
thingy that comes w/the TV w/the two leads.
Home > Settings>External inputs>IR Blaster setup>AV receiver control setup [400Mhz Man
The IR-Blaster can be a bit finicky sometimes, so you may have to repeat the setup (worked fo
What are the colored buttons on the remote for?
[Beeper]
They are interactive function (or shortcut) keys. In the B models, one use is to bookmark page
If you have other devices that use shortcut keys, such as a Blu-ray player or DVR with colored
the colored buttons will be of use for the shortcuts in the device interactive functions.
[Axel]The new 2016 Sony RMF-TX200U remote control that features a built in microphone wor
I just got it today and have not tested it 100%. The IR functionality worked as expected as soo
To get the microphone to work, I selected Bluetooth Settings / Devices List / Add Accessor
microphone button.
The device should pair as expected and the microphone button will work. The new Google Pla
It's a nice alternative if you like using voice, AND like the larger remote over the small touch r
How do I turn off or reduce the brightness of the white LED light on the botto
Home>Settings>Illumination LED.
"Simple response" = only lit when commands sent from remote.
"Off" = won't light up at all. You can also set brightness level.
What devices can I connect to the TV via Bluetooth? Can I use a Bluetooth he
[400Mhz Man]
There is no support for pairing bluetooth headphones w/the TV to listen. The manual states th
-The TV supports the following profiles:
-HID (Human Interface Device Profile)
-HOGP (HID over GATT Profile)
-3DSP (3D Synchronization Profile)
-SPP (Serial Port Profile)
This means the TV will support: included Touchpad remote control, Mouse, Keyboard, 3
Controller...
You CAN also connect pretty much any Bluetooth keyboard to the TV, and RF keybo
Once Google Play has finished publishing it, this will be its URL: https://play.google.com/store/
Google Play will make the app available for phones and tablets (Lollipop or better) fairly quick
it's passed a manual review process. It sounds like you may have the know-how to manually c
onto your TV, but if not it just means you'll have to wait a little longer before you can try it ou
Hide the TV's bluetooth visibility - Google Play Store link
Is there an app that can be used to control the TV?
Yes - the Sony Sideview app allows you to control the TV remotely, turn it on (if you enable Re
apps, etc. It provides an on-screen (the TV screen) mouse, access to the Action menu, access
program guide you can set up for your local provider. Worth a look - in the Google Play Store.
Also - if you run into a situation where your TV is not responsive to either of your remote cont
to access to options like Reboot and Factory Reset which you can use to resolve your problem
Is there a internet browser that I can use on the TV?
Yes - there is the Opera browser, which can be installed from the Google Play store. It has a r
to use w/a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected to the TV or with the Sony Sideview app
Is there a way to get a "right-click" context menu in the Kodi app using the re
[Civuck][Theetjuh][DoctorM]
[Civuck] Ya, I was interested in this too and came across an add-on for Kodi called Keyma
You can essentially assign any Kodi function to almost any remote button. For exam
remote button. This shows a huge amount of details about the video and audio currently play
Add-On from within Kodi without too much hassle.
[Theetjuh] Even easier is to just hold the center button (crosshair) for a little while, tha
will work in some other apps as well, have to try it in each app to see if it's supported.]
[DoctorM} Attach a keyboard and mouse (USB or Bluetooth) and use the mouse right-click
What is a good wall mount for this TV? Who sells good wall mounts?
[Chas Zoss][C0der7]
[Chas] "You will not find a better mount than the Video secure from Amazon, so far I have use
VideoSecu Articulating Full Motion TV Wall Mount Bracket for most 32"-70" LED LCD
The Video Secure description says up to 70" but the mount's specs (hole pattern support - 2
600x400, and weight limit - up to 165 lbs) support the 55", 65", and 75" X850C models. See t
(from the Reference Guide). Link below.
[C0der7] I got this mount for a 55" unit, and it works pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ICRTPIQ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Monoprice.com also sells very well desgned wall mounts that are very competively priced.
Note that the 55" does not come w/the mounting bolts in the TV, you will use the bolts that c
Amazon.com - VideoSecu Articulating Full Motion TV Wall Mount Bracket for most 32"-70"
What is bias lighting, and why would it provide a nicer picture w/my TV?
Bias lighting is a very simple "trick" you can play on your eyes to significantly improve your v
behind the TV, usually reflected from the back of the TV to the wall behind the TV) can signific
and even mask troublesome picture issues. Bias lighting is one of the easiest DIY additions w/
See the "What is bias lighting and why would I want it?" article at the link below to learn why
One issue: If you plug bias lights into one of the USB ports on the TV to power them, the bias
The set appears to "wake up" internally at intervals to do housekeeping (check for FW/app up
port temporarily. So the bias lights won't be on all the time, but they will come on from time t
the set into suspend mode). To get around this, you can 1) Plug your lights into an external po
a "smartswitch" power strip that turns power off to other components when the main compon
Antec bias lighting referred to on the Other Useful Stuff tab, the bias light strip has a built-in p
the TV. (I know, that last option is not so convenient). Unless the TV is in the room where you
to know about in advance, of course.
Check out the Other Useful Stuff tab to learn more about bias lighting and see recommended
What is Bias Lighting and why would I want it?
More on Bias Lighting and bias light sets that X850C owners have purchased/recommende
How should I clean the screen of my TV?
Very detailed post on LCD TV screen cleaning:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1530461-official-2014-sony-xbr-49
144.html#post34069402
Are the 55", 65", and 75" X850C TVs all backlit? And are they VA or IPS pane
No - they are not all backlit:
- The 55" is edge lit with frame dimming.
- The 65" and 75" are both back lit, with frame dimming.
What does that mean? [Civuck]: Full Array vs. Edge lit vs Direct lit - they are three different w
exactly as they are named. Here's a pretty good image Google found illustrating the various c
The 55", 65", and 75" X850C sets are all VA panels (as opposed to IPS). VA panels mea
reduced viewing angle - the picture will wash out from off-angle viewing. IPS panels have bett
contrast of a VA panel.
Can you tell me more about the panels used in the 2015 X850C, X830C, and X
[Pizza Rater]
55X850C is an edge lit VA or PVA Panel ......a Samsung, maybe PVA panel by the contras
65X850C and 75X850C are rear lit VA, less likely Samsung PVA panels...probably Samsun
55X810C is a rear lit VA panel maybe 8 bit or 6 bit + frc PVA or much more likely a 6 bit +
WCG Triluminous panel in either size, X810C and has no need for 10 bits & price would not su
either.
65X810C is maybe an LGD IPS or Samsung PLS panel either 8 bit or 6 bit + frc ( same t
49X830C is an IPS variant or IPS probably the same for the 43X830 .
Other panel makers have other VA and PVA panel variants there are also several in plane swit
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles...chnologies.htm
http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-tele...3317/test.html
You shouldn't have to look for a software update, as the TV is set up to automatically check fo
when one is ready and you are in SmartTV mode. If you'd like to check for a software update:
You can change your setting for Automatic software download on this screen as well. Best to
updates, and choose when to download them.
You can also get to the same System Software Update option via the Android Settings menu:
After you hit "OK" to start the update, the TV displays a spinning progress arrow on-screen. D
the family, and don't choose this time to turn off power to your home while you re-wire your b
firmware can "brick" that device, i.e., turning it into a virtual brick that just sits there and can
After ~20 to 30 minutes the TV will restart and quickly flash the Sony logo a couple times. Aft
normal full boot up w/the spinning color dots Android boot animation that turns into the Andro
Then you'll get the "Android is upgrading...Optimzing app ## of ###" message during which
system apps included in the software) as it updates the info/cache for each app. For example
process completes you'll see a short "Starting apps" and "Finishing Boot" messaegs on that d
The set will then restart two more times (two clicks, the Sony logo will appear and go away, a
reboot again (spinning dots Android boot up animation turning into Android logo, etc). Then a
complete w/an OK button.
If you hit "OK" the set will finish booting up to the Home screen. If you don't do anything there
into suspend mode, actually, as it always does when you turn it "off.") When hit Power on the
notification screen will reappear. Hit "OK" and the Home screen will appear. You're done.
Can I do a manual update (download and install the update from a USB stick)
Yes - you can download a FW update to your computer, put it on in the root of your USB stick,
see the udpate and offer to apply it.
Download the file from Sony site, and unzip the update file from the zip and place i
the X850C download page is here: https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?
mdl=XBR75X850C&template_id=1®ion_id=1&tab=download#/downloadTab
Then:
1. Turn on the TV
2. Insert your USB device containing the file sony_dtvxxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxx (.pkg) into the
A series of different messages will appear on the TV screen - follow the on screen instructions
The update will start and a white Led light will start blinking on the front panel of the TV, and
NOTE: Do not remove the USB or turn off the TV.
After 30 to 45 minutes, the TV will turn off and then turn back on to complete the update and
Do not remove the USB from the TV until prompted to by the TV.
What is the current TV FW version and what was updated in it? Most recen
Benefits provided in version PKG3.709.0120NAB: Update to Android
Summary:
- Home screen visual updates
- Volume bar moved to lower left of screen
- Downloaded games and apps can be moved to a USB memory device or Hard Disk Drive (HD
- When searching for TV programs, the programs are displayed by genre such as drama, spor
- The Help menu displayed when the HELP button is pressed on the remote control is now mo
illustrations and by category.
- If you use your TV with a Logitech Harmony Hub, you can operate Internet of Things (IoT) de
a button on the Android TVs remote.
- https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/75744
1. The TV software version (which also shows the TV model, serial number, and MAC address)
2. The Android software version
To check your current TV software version and/or see your TV's serial number:
Home>"?"
The "?" menu will show you both the model and the current software version below 'Help" in t
You can also select the System information option which has the same info but also includes y
Netflix ESN (if you have a Netflix account).
Home>Setttings>About
The current Android version info is listed in the Version and Build entries there.
Can I turn off automatic system software updates?
Appears you can:
Options: on/off
Click the "Off" option - from the scary warning screen that appears it looks like that will disabl
Where is the help manual? There was very little info in the box.
Currently you have two options, either view help content on the TV, or download from Sony's
1. Hold the Power button on the remote down until you see a message indicating the TV is go
or
Home>Settings>About>Restart
How do I Factory Reset (aka Factory Data Reset) the TV if I have some seriou
See the Troubleshooting tab for info on troubleshooting problems with apps by clearing cache
doing a Factory data reset.
Click here to go to the Factory Data Reset instrutions on the Troubleshooting tab.
Can I enable Developer Options on my TV just like you can on a phone or tabl
Yes: Home> Settings> About> Build
On Android devices, if you select Build (Build Number on phones, just Build on our TVs) repea
called Developer Options, which will appear at the end of the System Preferences section in S
Usually those settings are not important to majority of users in most cases, and you need to u
Can I use advanced ADB commands with the X850C?
[Birkir Rafn Gujnsson][wannabegt4]
[wannabegt4]
Thanks! If anyone else has the same problem with adb reboot bootloader, I had to use the 2n
fastboot getvar all causes fastboot to throw errors after gpusize variable. I wasn't brave enou
I got into Safe mode somehow - how do I get out of Safe mode!?
If "Safe mode" is displayed on the bottom left screen of the Android TV after you reboot the
- Press and hold the POWER button on the supplied IR remote control for at least five seconds
NOTE: While Safe mode is displayed on the screen, third party apps will be temporary disable
What are the specifications for the 850C TVs? (Below are Marketing specifica
https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/XBR75X850C_mksp.pdf
https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/XBR65X850C_mksp.pdf
https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/XBR55X850C_mksp.pdf
I am an intense and fearless TV geek, how do I get into the Service Menu?
[Captdan27]
To access the TV's Service Menu: Power off the TV. Then on the remote hit: Display, 5, vol up,
On the International version there is no "Display" button, instead it has "i+" w/ a box around i
Don't go into the Service Menu unless you are a TV geek and are aware of the things you can
Do you have any info on international versions of the X850C, the 55X8500C, 6
[Captdan27] See pic to the right showing the missing HDR Picture mode label in the settings -->>
The 65X8500CPX is the multi-system version of the TV sold in Military exchanges overseas. A
of SW on this TV. Interestingly in the service menu it gave an option to change the designator
VN3" or "KD-65X8500C TW2" which appear to be country designators (Vietnam & Taiwan)
This leads me to believe the hardware is universal for the Middle East/Pacific Asia area. Since
was not set to anything, but it gave me an idea. If you go to the Asia Pacific support page you
Oddly Vietnam has the PAB designator at the end just like the general Asia Pacific firmware. .
didn't break.
I had to sideload the Amazon Prime app as there are very few pre-installed apps on this
in the High Castle, I don't see the HDR designator. Also when I go to picture modes I don't see
HDR content isn't playing?)"
I have played the Life of Pi HDR clip from a USB drive and it looks great. While it is playing, If
doesn't say anything, and is greyed out. All of the other setting look similar to what I have see
etc) It appears that HDR is engaging, but shouldn't it say HDR in the picture mode? I'm conce
internet connection was messed up for the first week due to a bad port on the switch I have t
Can I flash TV software from another region/country on my TV?
[Captdan27]
Different countries have different tuner specs, and different display specs (PAL, NTSC, etc). M
issues before you try this.
Q: Seeing that the TV of mine gets HDD Recording on the Aussie version but the Asia Pasific v
though, KD49X8300c. Anybody have tried it?
A: (Captdan27): I can say yes, as I went ahead and flashed the Aussie firmware on my 8500C
service menu. A point to note wrt the firmwares posted at the Sony Asia-Pacific site, the Vietn
PAB designators, while Taiwan and Hong Kong have TWB and HKB designations respectively. I
is meant to be the general firmware, but they are releasing it only to country specific channel
poor support in my opinion, as unless you are willing to incur a little risk and grab the most cu
So I will caveat this upfront, if you follow my lead A) YMMV & B) I take no responsibility for bri
channels that backs up my comments, just the research I've done to try and figure out what i
Pacific hardware.
There appears to be 3 different hardware variations of this TV, 1 North American variant, one
Asia Pacific. Some countries have specialized firmware due to specific broadcast or cable syst
(cable provider) has some special requirements in the implementation of the CI+ tuner hardw
feel pretty comfortable at this point w/ using any of the firmwares that end in PAB. Also of not
update to the NAB firmware when I first got the TV it flat out refused to do the update. When
Aussie PAB firmware it went ahead w/o a problem.
Can I sideload the Amazon app if it isn't included on my TV outside the US, an
[Cashcro]
I've been able to access the HDR content on Amazon in Canada, I tried the suggestion you ma
and such on a view mode and then watch HDR content to confirm
Update for French models (& EU in general)?
[newic]
Hi there ! I've been reading this forum for some time from France. I just wanted to let you kno
enables HDD recording (ver. 3.317).
11/24/15 C series FW update - Information on Sony site - the most recent FW
https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=XBR75X850C&template_id=1&
What about the 2016 4K models the "D" series - any info?
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1454587676
https://www.avforums.com/article/sony-launch-sd85-xd85-xd93-and-xd94-4k-hdr-tv
[cchen326]Looks like the 2016 Sony's are up for preorder and have a similar MSRP to the initi
the last few batches of the 75x are not working on these.
Fudzilla is claiming pre-orders are up and stree prices (for 55/65) are $800 below MSRP:
X850C Reviews
XBR75X850C - LCD TV Buying Guide
XBR65X850C - Flatpanels HD Review
XBR55X850C - Rtings.com
Civuck also did some testing on differences across Picture modes (even
I've copied the exact same image setting values to four different 850C picture modes: Standa
Home. Those four modes are adjacent to each other when cycling through so comparisons are
picture modes are definitely unique from one another, despite identical settings. There is clea
each input. Standard and Custom are similar, but not the same - as are the Cinema Pro and C
characteristics such as sharpness, color (chroma level), color balance, contrast and gamma a
despite the user accessible values being identical.
I urge those curious to simply repeat what I've done above and sit on a still frame from somet
compare the modes. I'm pretty sure you will be amazed just how different one is from the nex
My take away - there clearly isn't a "one size fits all" mode - meaning to say, one 850C picture
for all types of content, or more specifically, all types of scenes. For the OCD tweakers, you w
for whatever the content is you are watching; your family will love you
[Z1-B] In my experience you have to mind your color setting and use O or -1 Gamma in Stan
your Black Level to 50 like all the modes on these. FWIW these TV's can go WW in 4:2:0 witho
(limited ) or 0-255 RGB full without clipping whites. Outside of HDR , some video games (PC o
should be feeding it 4:2:0 video levels or RGB limited that might help with blowing out highlig
etc, etc. I prefer Standard over Custom and use Warm or Expert One color temp and on bit sta
anyway on any given channel .
Picture adjustments menu on HDMI1 and ------>> Picture adjustments
the Apps (Video) category] to the right.
What the "Display" info looks like on-screen.
More from Z1-B on this
Some picture modes don't allow pixel adjustments- use Standard or Game picture mode on a
PC input. Other picture modes (not Game & Standard) can default to -1 (block the setting) & o
Game or Standard picture mode ,usually game for a PC: Goto your TV PC input on the TV then
>(make sure auto display area is [off ] > select display area you will see -1 , Normal and ,[full
full pixel to correct over scan and on a PC or in general.
If you need further adjustment You can scale the picture from a PC using your GPU software s
inputs should always be set in the TV as 1:1 or full pixel if the option is available. Sometimes
or auto on those inputs my OTA is full pixel or auto. + 1 is a carryover from CRT days to hide
interrupt lines and other stuff outside of the picture and shouldn't be used as a rule
Some devices are peculiar on certain HDMI inputs on my 1080P Sony Bravia the PC only work
new 55X850C the Dish STB wont work on HDMI 1 so I put the PC there and the Dish STB on H
good for newbies: https://www.youtube.com/results?q=av...n+scaling+test
FWIW you cant display 2560x1440p/60 or 2160p/30 directly on a 2160p/120Hz panel ,the fixe
display their native resolution i.e.2160p or upscale something less than that to 2160p.
Enhanced HDMI signal format will ofc pass along up to 2160p /60 4:4:4 to the TV that ultimate
panel.
IOW anything you send to the TV that it supports will be up scaled to 2160p at the panel. 108
should look better than 1440P >2160p on the TV although I have not tried that.
Ongoing Motionflow and Cinemotion discussion - we're still not complet
settings interact on different content.
[Virtualrain]
In a nutshell...Motionflow Smoothness controls frame interpolation or the SOE. I like it on 24p material
camera pans at 24fps.
Motionflow Clearness adjusts the backlight duty cycle (aka pulsing, strobing, or black frame insertion)
resolution of moving objects, however, I can't see any benefit to this with my eyes and it will dramatic
brightness. I tried using this for PS4 gaming with Max backlight and it just doesn't seem to offer much
Cinemotion controls how the set performs reverse 3-2 pulldown to extract 24fps film material from int
effect on a 24p source playing back at its native 23.976 frame rate.
FROM HOMETHEATER.COM:
Motionflow is Sonys name for its 120-Hz technology, and it works as advertised. It can smooth motion
make a 24-frame-per-second, film-based source look like video. This can be jarring, particularly to a fil
recommend you stick to the standard setting and engage it only on video-based programming, such a
More Cinemotion discussion
FROM ACOUSTICPSYCHOS.COM
CineMotion Reverse 3-2 Pull- Down Technology
Sony's term for a TV circuit that detects a 3-2 Pull-Down sequence and performs the reverse or invers
their work on TV, DVD, or videotape, they have to transfer film (which runs at 24 frames per second) t
second). How do you get 24 into 30 without speeding up the film? Well, first take note that video actu
"fields," per second because of its interlaced scan.
The film studio has a machine (telecine) that takes one film frame and transfers it to three video fields
transfers it to two video fields-thus 3-2. The technology makes it possible to watch films at home, but
shifts in the movie.
A Reverse 3-2 Pull-Down circuit looks at the video as it's coming through the television, and in a split s
film frames like completing a puzzle. The surprising thing is that the TV's circuit doesn't have to interp
actually started out; it has all the necessary clues and can re-create the film perfectly.
Sony's CineMotion technology takes additional steps to make the image as close to the original film
Picture-in-Picture: The ability to display the main content from your PC via HDMI, while displaying
Picture-and-Picture: The ability to display your Blu-ray Player /DVD or other consumer electronic d
side-by-side simultaneously.
However, there are some limitations in twin-picture mode. It is not possible to combine bro
adds that the Twin Picture functionality only supports Digital RF (2K) and analog RF signa
More info
DCI 4K (CinemaScope cropped) 4096 1716 2.39:1 7,028,736
DCI 4K (flat cropped) 3996 2160 1.85:1 8,631,360
DCI 4K (native resolution) 4096 2160 1.90:1 (256:135) 8,847,360
Ultra-high-definition television 3840 2160 1.78:1 (16:9) 8,294,400
Ultra-wide-television 5120 x 2160 2.37:1 (21:9) 11,059,200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution
From: https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63061/c/65%2C66/kw/63061
Version 2.0 of the HDMI Specification does not define new cables or new connectors. Current High Spe
capable of carrying the increased bandwidth." Emphasis mine. Here's another direct quote: "HDMI 2.0
earlier versions of the HDMI specifications..."
Version 2.0 (like 1.4 before it) is entirely a hardware change. It is not a cable change. You can expect c
you need expensive new "Version 2.0 cables" but this is untrue. Your current High Speed cables should
I hedge with "should" as if the cable isn't fully up to the High Speed spec, it might not work. In this cas
(as discussed in this article). If you do, a different but not more expensive HDMI cable should work jus
http://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-0-wh...-need-to-know/
Summary of How Dynamic Range settings work and why it matters
[VirtualRain]
This setting actually controls how your TV interprets the range of black to white.
- Full (also sometimes called "High") expects black and white at RGB 0 and 256 respectively.
- Limited expects reference black and white at RGB 16 and 235 respectively (aka Video Levels). The r
All video content (TV, BR, DVD, Streaming video) is mastered to Limited. Computers output full range.
- Auto will look for a flag in the HDMI signal that indicates the right setting. Auto will work fine for mo
Bluray players). NOTE: Auto won't work properly with most computers playing back video as the com
though the content is limited.
You want to avoid conversions in video levels as each conversion will introduce banding (best case) or
if you use any kind of computing device or streaming box (which is really just a computer) you need to
preserving levels as perfectly as possible. There are three potential places where an unwanted conver
1. The player software may convert the video from video levels to full RGB. Most good players either d
2. The GPU may convert the limited levels to full range RGB. Ideally, there should be a way to set the
the player unmodified.
3. The TV may convert the signal if set incorrectly. This is where this setting on the TV comes into play
places an unwanted conversion in levels might occur.
Bottom line is that using a computing device for video playback requires special attention be paid to l
and this setting is one important piece of that. Don't confuse the Enhanced HDMI setting (which open
options) with the HDMI Dynamic Range setting (which controls video levels).
Sony's support page on this setting - shows screen shot of HDMI settin
[Z1-B]
HDMI Enhanced Signal format settings in the TV should never be used outside of advanced 4K,HDR an
your 4:2:0 black level indexing and chroma sub sampling will be skewed and you might as well have a
PLS panel in it .......
You can use Auto HDMI Signal Formatting on PC's and game consoles or 4K extenders or 4K UHD HDR
when asked and standard HDMI formatting on 4:2:0 sources like HDTV ,Cable/ Sat, DVD and BD or any
extenders
Leave your 4:2:0 video level OTA HDTV ,DVD /Blue ray players ,CATV/SAT set top box ,extenders like R
standard signal format. The Enhanced HDMI Signal Format is for advanced PC and 4K formats like 108
HDR .
Again what I do is leave the PC and PS3 HDMI signal formats on Auto because again those two can do
otherwise Auto will default to 4:2:0 as needed. FWIW your 4:2:2 sources may not work right on enhan
the least index your black levels and max white all wrong .
Additional Testing Results
[Z1-B]
[Z1-B] FWIW I've seen 6 bit to 8 bit B/W & color gradation tests on a Sony Bravia R450a with a 6 bit +
dither panel and the gradations are nowhere near as smooth as these are although it makes pretty de
panel . Your PC may have one of those also it's not all that uncommon outside of the more expensive m
test video file played from a USB drive into the embedded Sony X850C Video Player run time app show
Unless I'm wrong I don't believe it's an 8 bit + high frc to 10 bits overdrive panel the gradation is smoo
maybe indicative of a 10 bit panel IMO also my PC 's dGPU identifies it as a 10 bit panel .
Auto 2: Output only compressed audio for multi-channel content without change
The "Optical out for audio signals from DIGITAL AUDIO OUT" makes it sound like these settings only aff
they made a difference w/audio out via HDMI/ARC when he was using it.
And Auto 2 feels like it was written by an ESL student, but it does sound like it's saying that only multi
output without change, and some "change" happens to all other audio. What change? Unclear.
"Just tested a stereo video. In Auto 1 my AVR reported Digital Stereo. In Auto 2 it report PCM Stereo.
It appears by using Auto 2 you can apply the audio tweaks from the "Sound Adjustment" options that
AVR. By using Auto 1 the TV is likely leaving stereo sound untouched."
AOC: E-link
Hitachi: HDMI-CEC (Thank you, Hitachi!)
LG: SimpLink
Mitsubishi: NetCommand for HDMI
Onkyo: RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI)
Panasonic: HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, or VIERA Link
Philips: EasyLink
Pioneer: Kuro Link
Runco International: RuncoLink
Samsung: Anynet+
Sharp: Aquos Link
Sony: BRAVIA Sync
Toshiba: CE-Link or Regza Link
Vizio: CEC (Thank you, Vizio!)
CEC Table 5 provides the logical addresses on p17 of the spec. As this is a bus system any device conn
included. An AV Receiver could be just an audio system but it might also include Tuner...
Comment from Sony forum on this info
I know what test you're talking about. The person who did that test used an lcd monitor instead of a c
lcd monitor's also have input lag, the 16ms only means the tv is 16ms slower than that lcd monitor, th
amount, about 39ms for the x850.
X850C Wall Mount VESA Specs
wall-mount hole pattern & weight (w/out TV stand)
XBR-75X850C: 400 300 mm, 34.8 kg / 76.7 lb
XBR-65X890C: 400 300 mm, 24.1 kg / 53.1 lb
XBR-65X850C: 400 300 mm, 24.1 kg / 53.1 lb
XBR-55X890C: 300 300 mm, 19.9 kg / 43.9 lb
XBR-55X850C: 300 300 mm, 19.9 kg / 43.9 lb
XBR-49X830C: 300 300 mm, 14.4 kg / 31.8 lb
XBR-43X830C: 200 300 mm, 11.8 kg / 26 lb
One owner's experience with bias lighting. (Ed. Note: The bias lighting kit use
see the Other Useful Stuff tab for some less epensive options.)
[Cchen326]
On my 2nd replacement I have clouding and corner light bleed on the bottom right. I tried the micro fi
FAQ and it did not do much for it unfortunately.
I read the bias lighting section and gave it a shot by ordering a $60 set from amazon. When I have it o
be seen. I guess the added brightness behind the screen hides these defects fairly well so if anyone w
be aware this can also hide some of the slight defects you might have on the screen as an added bonu
I purchased this set (see link below) and it came out looking like this: ---------->>>
LED Backlight TV Normal Bright Cool White Large Kit: Recommended for Flat Screen TVs u
More from [Pizza Rater]
IOW PLS (plane line switching ) and IPS ( in plane switching ) and their variants are about the same th
but better view angles than VA type panels
More:
That being said they both have real decent 8 bit pictures and Sony color just not quite the vibrant Trilu
see in the store or compare to my bt709 1080p Sony and all the other sets here even one with a 10 bi
Outside of 10 bit color and P3 DCI and bt2020 color... Even on on bt709 8 bit color the Sony Triluminio
spectrum or pure white light than a conventional maybe blue LED with white or maybe it's yellow pho
like an X810C ,X830C or Samsung JU model and no Nano crystals like Samsung SUHD JS model or any
LCD sets all have .
IMO that's a big deal with superior WCG color volume even at 8 bits or remapped 8 bit color below the
color and white clipping threshold with more gradations or shades and intensities of color within an SD
extra change .
Update Available
Previous updates
[mrdjman] (Has been emailing with a Sony tech familiar w/the SW update.) "The 3D fix is only
covered only one model (65X850C) and only a small certain serial number range. It would not
asked. So I guess that means - they're not really willing to admit any issues with 3D...but...if y
up in 'the list'...something would magically be done to address it. Wouldn't be hard to pick & c
update...so I suppose it's possible..."
However it behaves differently than the US version of the TV. There is no selectable HDR mode in the
mine.) Also when it does go into HDR pic mode it will not report anything as the picture mode. (i.e. wh
action menu -> picture and you will see that the picture mode box is greyed out and unselectable)
Also, this version of the TV doesn't come with the Amazon app, which is the only current source of stre
sideload it and even then it will not expose the HDR content on the 8500C. My current theory is that t
connected to the available picture modes and doesn't see HDR, so it won't let you access HDR conten
[Chriswg]I'm in the UK and have a UK Prime account. The app is the official one that came with the tel
anything I'm watching but it obviously it doesn't look great.
When I played Life of Pi HDR demo from USB I think it auto selected HDR and that looked insanely goo
With Mozart in the Jungle streaming from Amazon it doesn't auto select it and if I manually select it I g
but otherwise the picture isn't great but I'm not getting the proper HDR mode.
I still can't get the sideloaded Amazon app to expose HDR content to play, just UHD.
The AP model doesn't come w/ the Amazon app on it. have to sideload (using the version pulled from
Amazon instant video. Unfortunately there must be some type of check that is telling the Amazon app
though it is) as I still can't get to HDR content through the app.
You can sideload the Amazon app and it will work (assuming you have a US prime acct.) Hulu will show
or a DNS unblocker that allows you to trick the playstore into thinking you are coming from the US. Se
to only streaming services. Unotelly allows you to spoof location for a number of services.
See this link for more discussion on XDA Forums Sony Android TV thread about flashing FW
Amazon and other apps, Amazon HDR access, etc.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65475960&postcount=523
More here on AVS forums on how Captdan27 got Amazon working (except HDR):
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1985298-sony-2015-xbr-55x850c-xbr-65x8
298.html#post41426945
From Tweakguides.com
[Beeper]
"Picture Mode: Choosing the correct picture preset, also known as the picture mode or viewing
other settings, so it must be selected carefully. Modern HDTVs come with several such modes
Picture menu. It is important to note that each preset isn't simply just another storage point f
modes have each been factory calibrated to contain fundamental differences in terms of the c
types of video processing which is applied to the image, and the overall level of image brightn
across all presets."
DoctorM's note about the changing wording from Sony which adds to c
Edit: It doesn't help that Sony has changed the description of Cinemation from previous models.
Previously--
Quote:
CineMotion: Provides smoother picture movement when playing images taken on film, reducing pictur
Auto 1 - Provides smoother picture movement than the original film video, for regular usage.
Auto 2 - Provides the original film video as it is.
Off - Turns off the CineMotion feature
- If the image contains an irregular signal or too much noise, CineMotion will automatically turn off eve
- CineMotion is not available for a PC input source.
Now--
Quote:
Low: Process IP (Interlaced-Progress) conversions appropriate for movies and computer graphics.
Medium: Process IP (Interlaced-Progressive) conversions appropriate for movies and computer graphic
remove judder.
High: Process IP (Interlaced-Progressive) conversions appropriate for a wide selection of video formats
judder.
DoctorM's recent comments on Motion settings and Cinemotion
MotionFlow on True Cinema is, to my eye, a good setting for 24p content. It mildly reduces jutter by in
any SOE (and I'm pretty sensitive to it).
On the other hand, my testing of Cinemotion suggests that it is NOT for 24p content, but how the TV h
(or mixed interlaced-progressive) material. As far as I can tell, Cinemtion set to 'Off' the TV simply dec
something like IVTC. I believe it tries to recover the original framerate giving a more cinema-like motio
additional frames as MotionFlow set to Standard or Smooth does for 24p content, which may also give
leave more combing artifacts behind than 'Off'.
That's a bit of a simplification since Sony describes that it also handles atypical and variable framerate
The biggest problem I've seen is that on 'Medium' and 'High' this setting will occasionally mess with 2
motion worse. I literally was watching a 24p movie where they panned across plain wooden stairs and
stopped when I set Cinemotion to Low.
My suggestions is MotionFlow on TrueCinema, and Cinemotion Low. If you see too many combing artifa
You can try Cinemotion on Medium or High on inputs from a computer or game console. That's someth
aren't likely to have interlacing. This is anecdotal, conjecture, trial and error and guess work. If anyon
ARC?!
More from [Pizza Rater]
More about Noncrystalline and Triluminous Wide Color Gamut LCD TV panels and light filters like you fi
SUHD JS model or any WCG HDR compatible noncrystalline ,Q.D. or Triluminous LCD or similar WCG LC
Quote:
In September 2009 Nanoco Group announced a joint development agreement with a major Japanese e
and develop quantum dots (QDs) for LED backlights in LCDs. Quantum dots are useful in displays, bec
distributions of wavelengths.
To generate white light best suited as an LCD backlight, parts of the light of a blue-emitting LED are tr
bandwidth green and red light such that the combined white light allows for a nearly ideal color gamu
panel. In addition, efficiency is improved, as intermediate colors are not present anymore and don't ha
LCD screen.
This can result in a display that more accurately renders colors in the visible spectrum. Other compan
for displays: Nanosys, 3M as a licensee of Nanosys and QD Vision of Lexington, Massachusetts.[14] Th
demonstrated by various TV manufacturers at the Consumer Electronics Show 2015. -Wikipedia -
read more : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_display
Update in progress
Improvements over version PKG3.531.0108NAB:
Previous version: 2/9/2016
Previous version Feb 9, 2016:: PKG3.307.0101NAB.
Current Android version: Lollipop 5.1.1 Build: SVP4KHDTV15_UC-user 5.1.1 LMY48E.S195 3.30
TV software version (the "PKG" version, and Android software version are separate version nu
One change to reboot noticed - when the TV is rebooted (long-press on Power button or p
HDMI port rather than to the Home screen.
Positive Comments from Sony forum: "So far, after installing the new update this mornin
the appearance of banding in dark shades, and fixed the problem of desynced audio. All in all
Previous version: 12/15/2015
12/15/2015 Update: PKG3.043.0080NAB.
Current Android version: Lollipop 5.1.1
Build: SVP4KHDTV_UD-user 5.1.1 LMY48E.S153 3.043 release-keys
TV software version (the "PKG" version, and Android software version are separate version nu
rows below for how to check for each software version on your TV, and how to check for a sof
UPDATE System Software Update Release Date 12/15/2015 Version PKG3.043.0080NAB File Si
Sony has designed the BRAVIA Televisions software update process to be customer friendly.
(version PKG3.043.0080NAB) provides the following benefits:
RVU support is for the DirecTV 4K Ready app/feature on the TV, only useful to DirecTV subscri
now lists the 850C series as DirecTV 4K Ready. See the DirecTV 4K FAQ tab for more info.
In addition to the official list above, additional improvements confirmed via user testing:
-Confirmed via testing - Annoying "wide mode: Full" pop up on the bottom left during 3D playb
[cchen326]
Previous version: 11/24 - this is the version that broke the Video app
Current TV software package as of 11/24/2015: PKG3.017.0080NAB.
Current Android version: Lollipop 5.1.1
build SVP4KDTV15_UC-user; 5.1.1 LMY48E.S127; 3.017 release-keys
TV software version (the "PKG" version, and Android software version are separate version nu
how to check for each software version on your TV, and how to check for a software update.
An owner on XDA forums talked on the phone w/Sony support personnel to get this list:
This is the update that broke the Video app - from this point on all content is forced
The 75X850C support page at the URL below has the official (and shorter) change list for the
https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=XBR75X850C&template_id=1®ion_id
UPDATE System Software Update Release Date 11/24/2015 Version PKG3.017.0080NAB File Si
File Description: Sony has designed the BRAVIA Televisions software update process to be cu
(version [b]PKG3.017.0080NAB[/b]) provides the following benefits over older version PKG2.4
IMPORTANT: Click here to learn why you must change picture settings for each input and Android a
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Picture Mode Cinema Home
Light Sensor On
Black Level 50
Black Adjust Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer Off
COLOR COLOR
Color 50
Hue 0
Color Temperature Expert 1
Color Space Auto
Live Color Medium
Adv. Color Temperature
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -2
B-Gain -3
R-Bias 4
G-Bias 3
B-Bias 0
Colour Gamma Adjustment
Points 1-10
1 -1 -1 -1
2 -2 0 0
3 -1 4 2
4121
5222
6011
7111
8001
9011
10 -1 -1 0
CLARITY CLARITY
Sharpness 50
Reality Creation Manual
Resolution 20
Mastered in 4K On
Random Noise Reduction Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
MOTION MOTION
Motionflow Standard
Smoothness
Clearness
Cinemotion Medium
3D Settings
3D Depth Adjustment 0
3D Glasses Brightness Medium
3D Signal Notification Off
Other settings changes when viewing 3D
Brightness Max
MotionFlow Off
Film mode Medium
Danabw Andy Sullivan
75" 75"
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N/A
Settings cobbled together from multiple Link to post is currently from Larry, who
sources, including the Disney Wow disc, shared Andy's settings.
steailng from other users' settings,
accidents that I discovered I liked, and
"gentle feedback" from my wife ("That
looks terrible!"). I am NOT an expert
calibrator in any way. :)
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Cinema Pro Cinema Pro
Off Off
4 5
49 50
On Off
50 48
Low Medium
Off Medium
COLOR COLOR
49 50
R1 0
Expert 2 Neutral
Auto Auto
Medium Off
Max
Max
Max
0
0
0
CLARITY CLARITY
50 50
Manual Manual
20 70
On On
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Custom Standard
2
Min
Low Low
Sirius_Rich Virtualrain
75" 75"
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I had mine calibrated, but these 2/21/16 Update. These are my final
settings may not look good on your settings after several months of
set. evaluation. I started with Cinema Pro
& made as few tweaks as possible to
get my ideal picture.
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Custom Cinema Pro
Off Off
11 35
52 50
Off Off
48 50
Medium
Medium
COLOR COLOR
52 50
0 0
Expert 1 Warm
sRGB/BT.709 Auto
Off Medium
Max
-4
-1
0
-1
-17
CLARITY CLARITY
50
Manual
20
On
Off
Off
MOTION MOTION
Standard
3
2
High
KtownHero Dandingo
65" 65"
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...These settings are based on (and My final settings for Netflix, Amazon,
primarily consist of) the calibration Hulu, Kodi and other built in apps.
settings provided by FlatPanelsHD in their
review of the X85C I can't stress enough Environment: I have the 65" version,
that all credit should really go to them. All have two lamps to the left and right of the
I've done is adapted them slightly to set with led bulbs that max out at 300
create two modes for day/night/mood lumens. Sit about 8 feet away and it is
viewing. mounted so that the center of the TV is at
eye level, roughly 44".
Screenshots:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-
flat-panel-displays/1985298-sony-2015-
xbr-55x850c-xbr-65x850c-xbr-75x850c-
owners-club-315.html#post41854617
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Cinema Pro Custom
Off Off
10 Min
50 58
On Off
50 50
Low Medium
Low Off
COLOR COLOR
50 58
0 0
Expert 1 Warm
sRGB/BT.709 Auto
Off Medium
-1
-3
-5
3
0
-3
CLARITY CLARITY
50 50
Manual Off
20 Min
On Off
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
True Cinema Off
Medium High
Then, I copied ALL of the same
settings to Cinema Home and set
them up separately as follows (only
showing what I changed):
Picture Mode: Cinema Home
Backlight (Brightness): Max
Gamma: 0
Black Adjustment: Medium
Advanced Contrast Enhancer: Medium
Live Color: High
MotionFlow: Clear
Patrick Zapatka Korat
65" 65"
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These settings are after being ISF- Coming from Hollywood as a video
calibrated by Tyler Pruitt of SpectraCal. He engineer that works on the content we all
set up both Cinema Pro and HDR settings. watch, it's nice to see content look almost
exactly how I remember it looking on set
Note: HDR settings are shown after the || when I shot it. (or at least as close as
in those settings. compressed video can look when
compared to the real uncompressed stuff I
Viewing in a darkened room. see all day at work.) The black levels are
very even and I'm not seeing any of the
blue edges. I have noticed a bit of odd
brightness changes in some scenes that I
know were not there when we shot it, but
that could just be the Auto Contrast
Adjustment thing. I think I have that on
Low, but may try turning it off to see if
this goes away.
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Cinema Pro || HDR Cinema Pro
(needs confirmation)
Off Off
6 || Max Min
50 53
Off Off
50 || 50 52
Off Off
Low || Low Low
COLOR COLOR
50 53
0 0
Expert 2 || Expert 2 Expert 1
Auto sRGB/BT.709
Off Low
Max || Max
-2 || -2
-5 || -2
CLARITY CLARITY
15 50
Manual Off
20 20
On Off
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Off Custom
Min
1
Off Off
Mclingo McKeown Mclingo McKeown
65" HTPC 65"
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Here are my settings for my HTPC running These settings counteract what appears
KODI. to be an inherant problem with some of
these panels, too much yellow and blue in
i have created two new presets now for dark areas. People may want to tweak
both night and day, again though these these a little themselves but its a decent
are tweaked for my room, so these may base to work from, it deals with some of
not be suitable for you. the issues created by the blooming.
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Cinema Home | Cinema Pro Cinema Pro
Off Off
35 | 10 45
55 58
On Off
COLOR COLOR
55 58
0 0
Expert 1 | Neutral Warm
Auto sRGB/BT.709
Off Off
-8 | -5 -20
-4 | Max Max
Max -5
Min | 0 -9
Min | -5 Min
-15 Min
CLARITY CLARITY
50 50
Manual Manual
20 20
On On
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Off or Min Custom
1
1 or 2 (affects brightness)
Low Low
Mclingo McKeown Flatpanelshd.com
65" Most recent 65"
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http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1436424059
New presets for 65 inch TVs with HDTV review site.
blooming / bleed issues.
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Vivid (go w/me on this) Cinema Pro
Off Off
Max Max
43 50
Off On
COLOR COLOR
43 50
0 0
Warm Expert 1
sRGB/BT.709 sRGB/BT.709
High Off
-1
-3
-5
3
0
-3
CLARITY CLARITY
50 50
Off Manual
20
On On
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Custom Clear
1
3
Low Medium
LCD TV Buying Guide TweakerInWa
65" ??"
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Following are the calibrated picture I really like these settings on 4K content
settings which we recommend for the ONLY... Does not apply to any other source
X850C 4K LED TV. We do not post 10pt to be clear. HDR applied to other non-4k
calibrated picture settings due to the fact content can look pretty awful..Really
that different TVs of even the same model content dependent.. [emoji5] Even on older
and brand may calibrate differently 4K restorations such as Lawrence of
especially when refining to a 10pt white Arabia, HDR mode seems difficult to work
balance calibration. Try the medium room with. Needs further adjusting to get the
light settings below and see how you like color under control...
them. We've tried to incorporate some of
the X850Cs best engineered features Again, just settings "I" like.. I'm sure they
combined with a traditional calibration. can be tweaked to something more user
We like to use some of the new picture specific. But I'm enjoying these results..
technologies when possible (you're paying Could tweak some more...
for them after all).
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Custom HDR
Off Off
45 45
56 45-55 depends on content
On Off
47 30
Low Off
Low Low
COLOR COLOR
56 45-55 depends on content
0 0
Expert 1 Neutral
Auto BT.2020
Off Low
Max
-1
-1
1
0
0
CLARITY CLARITY
50 50
Manual Auto
20
Off* On
Off Off
Medium Off
MOTION MOTION
Custom Custom
3 1
2 Min
Off High
*should only be used with 4K
remastered BluRay material
GBarber GBarber
55" 55" HDR Calibration!
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Screen on and warmed up for >1 hr I've finally been able to perform an HDR10
calibration of my XBR-55X850C.
Environment: Semidark room; TV located
8.5 feet from viewing position. The setup was the same as my previously
reported SDR calibration with the exception
Software: Calman Enthusiast that I used the lastest released version of
Pattern generator: Mobileforge Calman (which now includes an HDR10
running on Amazon FireTV stick calibration routine) and, as instructed by
connected to HDMI 1 input this routine, interposed an HDFury Integral
between my pattern generator and the
Measuring device: xRite i1Pro 2 Sony TV to inject the appropriate HDR10
spectrometer metadata into the HDMI signal prior to the
TV input.
DISPLAY
Custom HDR
Off Off
25 Max
50 65
Off Off
ADVANCED SETTINGS
BRIGHTNESS
25 Max
95 Max
1 0
50 50
Off Off
Off Off
COLOR
50 65
0 0
Expert 1 Neutral
Auto Auto
Off Off
-2 Max
-3 -11
-9 -27
8 -19
2 -7
-8
1: -19, -12, -8
2: 19, 12, 16
3: 4, 6, -7
4: 11,18,6
5: 9,12,7
6: 9, 14, 9
7: 14: 15, 13
8: 0, 1, 0
9: -6, -2, -8
10: -4, 1, -2
CLARITY
50
Off
20
Off
Off
Off
MOTION
Off
3
2
Off
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Standard (mostly, sometimes Vivid) Standard
*
Off Auto 24p
49 or max, my preference 35
44-54 55
Off
COLOR COLOR
44-54 55
0 to G7, dep.on flesh tone 0
Warm Auto
Varies Off
Off Off
CLARITY CLARITY
49-50 60
Manual Auto
Min
Off Default
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Off or True Cinema Standard
1 or 2
Min
High Default
* In Vivid & Standard picture modes for
bt709 SAT /HDMI input
I have RGB gains at [max ] and RGB
Bias all at [0] *
Recall Recall
55" 55"
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Football Mode For Movies /Blu Ray / Hi DEF ( not HD
cable / sky )
DISPLAY DISPLAY
Football Mode Cinema Home
50 50
Medium Off
Medium Off
COLOR COLOR
55 50
Warm Expert 1
Auto Auto
Off Off
CLARITY CLARITY
60 50
Auto Manual
20
On
Off Off
Off Off
MOTION MOTION
Smooth True Cinema
Rtings.com
55"
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p://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-brand/sony/x850c/settings
HDTV review site.
DISPLAY
Custom
Off
5
50
Off
ADVANCED SETTINGS
BRIGHTNESS
5
90
0
50
Off
Off
COLOR
50
0
Expert 1
Auto
Off
Max
-2
-3
4
3
0
1 -1 -1 -1
2 -2 0 0
3 -1 4 2
4121
5222
6011
7111
8001
9011
10 -1 -1 0
CLARITY
50
Off
Min
Off
Off
Off
MOTION
Off
High
X850C HDR FAQ & Troubleshooting (Including settings/known issues w/
How can I tell if HDR picture mode is engaged when playing content fro
When playing HDR content in the Amazon app, if I open the Action men
mode isn't selected. Does that mean HDR mode is not engaging automa
If I'm in a region that doesn't get the Amazon, can I sideload and use it
[Cashcro]
What are recommended settings for the Samsung K8500 UHD BD playe
[Gbarber][drparker151][Aaronwt]
Why do I get the following message "This is not plugged into an hdr co
hdr compatible tv" when I try to play a UHD Blu Ray in my K8500?
Why do I get a "no signal" message in the lower right corner of the scre
K8500 UHD-HDR BD player.
[Aaronwt]
Are there any known issues with the Samsung K8500 UHD-HDR BD play
[Gbarber]
Do I have to enable HDR mode when I play HDR content?
Can I change the picture mode when I'm playing HDR content?
My TV Picture mode has gotten stuck in HDR mode - how can I fix that?
[Bullwyf]
Can I turn regular content into HDR content by selecting HDR mode?
Can I adjust the settings in the HDR picture mode as I can with other pi
Should I switch the color space to BT.2020 in the HDR Video Picture Mo
[c0der7]
I'm playing back HDR content on Amazon, and I've followed the test pro
content is not playing back in HDR mode - why might that happen?
How can I tell what is HDR content in the Amazon Instant Video app
Are there any uses of the 2020 color space on other content?
[lcd trinitron ?]
Does the 850C series support the full rec.2020 color gamut? What is re
[King Richard][Rtings.com]
More from King Richard on HDR brightness
What about Dolby Vision - is that supported? Is there more than one HD
[DoctorM]
What about Sony's 2016 line - how will it support HDR?
850C HDR FAQ & Troubleshooting (Including settings/known issues w/Samsun
Yes!
1) For apps on the TV: An update in August 2015 added HDR picture mode & HDR s
"HDR Compatible" for apps that are enabled to stream HDR on the TV. (For all "C" s
2) For devices connected via HDMI: An update in February 2016 provided HDMI HDR
devices on HDMI 1-4. (Included: X940C/X930C/X850C/X840C. Excluded: X810C and
update.)
HDR (High Dynamic Range) is a further improvement in picture quality over "plain old" regula
picture mode on your TV, it is updated content from providers combined w/updated software
support the HDR content. UHDA definition: "UHD redefines in-home entertainment through a
audio, providing a sensory experience that replicates the richness of lifes sights and sounds a
intent."
As of CES in Jan 2016 we finally have a "real" HDR spec that the industry has aligne
consortium comprising some of the biggest names in the consumer electronics industry (mem
specifications that define a premium Ultra High-Definition (UHD) experience for consumers in
meet the performance metrics will be eligible to license a Ultra HD Premium logo from th
purposes.
TVs with full support for the new HDR spec can be marketed "Ultra HD Premium" and it appea
back HDR content but don't meet 100% of the spec (like our X850C series) are going to be ma
See the links to posts and articles below for more detailed information on HDR.
Post from King Richard in X850C thread summarizing the new UHD HDR spec
UHD Alliance Defines HDR Spec
The importance of Ultra HD HDR - from AVS Forums
What is HDR for TVs and why should you care? (Source: CNet)
HDR (high dynamic range) on TVs explained (FlatpanelsHD.com)
Not All HDR is Created Equal (Digital Tech Consulting)
The Wild Wild West of HDR (Source: Sound and Vision)
CEA Defines HDR Compatible Displays (Source: Consumer Technology Association)
UHD Alliance Home
Members of the UHD Alliance
What does "HDR Support/HDR Compatible" mean on the 2015 "C" series that su
It means that the X850C (and other "C" series that support HDR) will automatically recognize
picture mode when HDR content is played from 1) Streaming apps on the TV (e.g., Amazon); 2
devices like the Samsung K8500 UHD/HDR Blu Ray player connected via HDMI. NOTE: You d
mode, it will be selected for you automatically by the TV. See below on this page to
mode is selected when viewing content from the Amazon app and other streaming
The X850C does not indluce full array local dimming (FALD) which is required for the best HDR
forums find the HDR support on the X850C to be very good. As always, the quality of the sour
to have HDR content that is not well mastered as it is with any other content.
[lcd trinitron ?'s comments on X850C HDR] IMO at least on the X850C the HDR lite support is
performance. The WCG (wide color gamut) is fine and the bright areas and highlights/bright h
demonstrably better, brighter and more detailed than bt709 but not anywhere near 800-1000
a dark room or sunset level light it's pretty good HDR+ WCG for most folks but definitely not a
What apps on the TV currently provide HDR?
Amazon
Netflix - Requires 4 screen plan subscription from Netflix
Ultra 4K (Sony's new app with $30 movies - yikes!)
Above are the only apps at this time streaming HDR content (HDR10 format) supported by ou
How can I tell if HDR picture mode is engaged when playing content from an ap
It depends on the app. If the app pauses playback when you go to the Action menu>Picture a
see HDR mode when playing HDR content. If the app stops playback when you go to the Acti
Picture mode for that app. For example:
- Netflix: If you're playing back an HDR episode (e.g., Marco Polo season 1) and go to Action m
(but is not stopped) and you can see that HDR picture mode is selected.
- Amazon: If you're playing back an HDR episode (e.g., "The Man in the High Castle") and go
Amazon app completely stops playback. Since HDR content is no longer playing, the TV stops
picture mode. So you won't see the HDR mode selected even if you're playing HDR content in
The key thing is whether the app pauses or stops playback when you go to look at the picture
Amazon is selecting HDR mode for HDR content, if you're concerned about that.
When playing HDR content in the Amazon app, if I open the Action menu and lo
mode isn't selected. Does that mean HDR mode is not engaging automatically?
As noted above, Amazon is engaging HDR mode, it just won't display HDR mode in
you select the Action menu when playing HDR content in the Amazon Instant Video app, the H
happens the TV changes the Picture Mode back to your standard picture mode. So by the time
Action menu to display the Picture mode menu, HDR mode has been replaced by your normai
your Physics geeks this is kind of like Heisenberg's uncertainty principle - the act of looking at
automatically engaged when the Amazon HDR content is playing in the Amazon app
mode selected in the Picture mode menu, since the HDR video stops when you go t
tested and confirmed this multiple times with a delightfully simple test that member 400Mhz
To further convince yourself you can set Color to "Min" for your normail Picture mode for Apps
HDR content in Amazon and you will see that the TV is using the HDR settings and you have n
You can also set Color to Min for HDR mode for the app or input you're using. Then play back
in black and white then again, you know HDR mode was engaged.
I'm in a region that doesn't get the Amazon, can I sideload and use it to get H
Cashcro]
Sideloading and accessing normal and UHD content appears to work in regions outside the US, if you
account. For access to HDR content on Amazon, we've only seen successful access to HDR content ou
services/tools to spoof your location...
[Cashcro] I am in Canada as well and had trouble the first couple of times as well until I used my wifi n
The link below to the APK is what I used
[nikonowski] It works now but I use it with Ethernet - a lot better speeds than Wi-Fi - also there is bette
particular check the SmartyDns product - it is amazing and you are not loosing your bandwith speeds
change at the router level.
[Cashcro] I've been able to access the HDR content on Amazon in Canada, I tried the suggestion you m
brightness and such on a view mode and then watch HDR content to confirm
What streaming devices can I connect to my TV to get HDR?
None at this time, as of March 2016 there aren't any. The Amazon FireTV stick, the Rok
but do not support HDR.
Currently the only way to view HDR on the X850C is via Amazon Instant Video app on the TV,
drive/stick attached to the TV. You may also be able to play downloaded HDR clips/demos ove
device to the TV. See below for more on downloadable HDR content to add to what Amazon o
See the excellent AVS Forum HDR thread for currently availble HDR streaming devices (if any)
re there any 4K/UHD and HDR Blu Ray devices available?
Yes, as of February 2016 Samsung has released the K8500 UHD-HDR Blu Ray player that is ge
What are recommended settings for the Samsung K8500 UHD BD player.
Gbarber][drparker151][Aaronwt]
See the Picture Settings tab for GBarber's HDR10 calibration of his 55X
calibration!!
Sony TV
REQUIRED: Home>Settings>External inputs>HDMI signal format -> Enhanced form
Set any HDMI port that has a UHD/4k/HDR device connected to it to Enhanced format
Why do I get the following message "This is not plugged into an hdr compatible
dr compatible tv" when I try to play a UHD Blu Ray in my K8500?
Remember, the following setting is required on the TV's HDMI port that the K8500 (or any UHD
Why do I get a "no signal" message in the lower right corner of the screen whe
8500 UHD-HDR BD player.
Aaronwt]
Try setting the Deep color setting on the Samsung player to Auto. [Aaronwt]I was ge
turned Deep color off, in the K8500 yesterday. But with deep color set to Auto, I don't have th
re there any known issues with the Samsung K8500 UHD-HDR BD player?
Gbarber]
There appears to be some intermittent communication issues between the player and the TV
engaged...not clear yet on why/how that happens.
[Aaronwt] It's working fine in my setup. I only have three UHD BD titles, but with all of them, a
always the Fox logo with these titles, it's in HDR mode. This seems to be whether I switch from
starts up first or second.
I do have my K8500 connected directly to my 850C and use HDMI 2 for audio. And have HDM
issues I've seen was with the Deep Color setting. When off, I would get the no signal half the
up quickly after inserting the disc. I double checked this last night with a different brand of HD
the Deep Color setting.
There have also been some issues reported w/the K8500 and HMDI-CEC - in one case [Aaronw
K8500 caused issues w/his other devices using that feature.
o I have to enable HDR mode when I play HDR content?
No. You do not enable HDR picture mode, the TV will engage it automatically whenever you p
only picture mode that is automatically engaged.
See the question below: "When I open the Action menu and look at Picture settings w
picture mode isn't the current picture mode. Does that mean it's not using HDR mo
when you look at your picture mode settings when playing content from Amazon, it doesn't lo
an I change the picture mode when I'm playing HDR content?
No - if your HDR capable device/app is communicating properly with the TV, HDR mode is sele
and you can't keep another picture mode selected. (Remember from above, if you are stream
the Action menu, HDR content stops streaming so your TV goes back to normal picture setting
If you are playing HDR content from a player like the Samsung K8500 and you find that pictur
playing HDR content, that means the K8500 and the TV are not communicating properly - see
for the proper steps to start playback from the K8500 to resolve that issue.
My TV Picture mode has gotten stuck in HDR mode - how can I fix that?
Bullwyf]
Happened to me and there is a simple fix: Play another HDR video on Amazon, then stop play
anymore).
If that doesn't work, another user resolved it via factory reset, but you shouldn't need to do th
an I turn regular content into HDR content by selecting HDR mode?
Nope - HDR content is required, if you simply apply HRD picture mode to normal content you'
contet is not developed w/HDR picture mode in mind, and processing that the TV applies to H
w/"normal" content.
[C0der7] HDR is not just a picture mode that Sony is applying to give higher contrast. A true H
video header which then has a different mapping from darkest to lightest portions of the vide
different color space other than standard Rec. 709, and these colors can't be reproduced corre
capability to display a wider color gamut.
So if a standard set tries to play HDR content, it will look really washed out.
Additionally, [Aaronwrt] noticed that the X850C power use goes up significantly when he play
"Wow!! The Power usage really shoots up when wacthing HDR content from Amazon. I see my
hit 220 watts. While with non HDR content my 850C is only using between 60 watts and 70 w
power when playing HDR content. That is a big difference."
Yes. See the next row for some recommended settings from HDR Picture mode settings from C
1. You can adjust your HDR Picture Mode settings, just as you can adjust the Cinema Home, C
settings. HDR picture mode settings are just another type of picture settings.
2. However, currently the most plentiful source of HDR video is Amazon Prime Instant Video, a
allow you to actually view a paused screen of HDR content while modifying picture settings. T
your changes since you can not do so while looking at the HDR video content. As soon as you
video app stops playing (video disappears from the screen, rather than pausing w/an image o
after exiting the TV settings menus. So you'll have to make any changes "blind" (w/out anythi
restart video to see how the changes look. Not the best process.
3. Non-Amazon HDR content has only been found in a few short clips (Life of Pi and Exodus HD
best samples of HDR to work from.
4. As of 4/7/16 SW update, the Netflix app how has HDR content. It is currently very limited,
screen plan subscription on Netflix to get HDR content.
re there any recommended settings for HDR?
C0der7 provided his favorite HDR Picture mode recommended modifications. If a se
Brightness: Max
Color: 40
Gamma: -1
Black Level: 40
Black Adjust: Low
Advanced Contrast Enhancer: Off
Hue: 0
Color temp: Neutral
Color Space:
Sharpness: 45
Reality Creation: Auto
Random and Digital Noise Reduction: Low
Motion Flow: True Cinema
Cine Motion: High
It's the same as modifying settings for any other picture mode, with one additional
1. Open the app or select the HDMI input that you are getting the HDR content from (and turn
an HDMI input)
2. Action menu>Picture adjutments
3. Select the Picture mode option and scroll down/up to HDR picture mode and select it.
4. Make any changes you want to the HDR picture mode settings
5. The one additional step: When you done making changes to the HDR settings, change
mode you want to use with normal content for that app/input...you want to leave the
to the picture mode you use for non-HDR "normal" content. HDR mode will be engaged autom
Don't miss this post on how Picture mode (and sound mode) settings are stored/mo
hould I switch the color space to BT.2020 in the HDR Video Picture Mode when
c0der7]
Just leave it on Auto, the TV will pick the correct color space for you.
m playing back HDR content on Amazon, and I've followed the test process ab
ontent is not playing back in HDR mode - why might that happen?
UHD and HDR take more bandwidth than 1080p...if Amazon finds bandwidth constrained) and
your ISP, your own network (or all three combined) Amazon may back off on the data stream
HDR UHD. That or your TV is acting up and you need to reboot it.
[Aaronwt] I just tried three titles from Amazon that were supposed to be in HDR UHD. None of
the tens of millions of people home from the Blizzard, it isn't streaming at the speed needed t
the titles in the past, it was in HDR mode. But not tonight.
How can I tell what is HDR content in the Amazon Instant Video app
First, there is an icon on the Amazon app home screen for UHD content. All of Amazon's UHD
that section, whether movie or TV series.
Not all UHD content is HDR! Amazon currently has two types of UHD content:
1. UHD (4K) content - this is "normal" 4K content, does not have HDR encoding
2. UHD (4K) HDR content - this is HDR 4K content, is encoded as HDR
On Amazon you'll have to do some digging to figure out which UHD content is also HDR. HDR
to the other show items (MPAA rating, audio type, closed captions, release yer, and genre). Se
1. For movies: On the movie details view (when you select the movie to view details and play
information that displays when on the browsing screen where you scroll through movie/series
2. For series: On the individual episode view. So you have select an individual episode to see
not. For example, in Mozart in the Jungle, the series title page only shows "[Ultra HD] in the se
means 4K. You have to access an individual episode page to find the "HDR" box next to the ot
captions, release yer, and genre) that display below the star rating.
What HDR content is currently available in Sony SmartTV apps (e.g., Amazon, N
See the excellent AVS Forum Master List of currently available 4k HDR titles by ray0414 - updated ofte
Amazon Instant Video is the only apps on the TV that currently has HDR content su
Amazon has an Ultra HD (e.g., 4K) section that has a LOT of 4K content, some of which is also
info to confirm if the UHD content is HDR. Amazon doesn't have a separate "HDR" section, or
each series or movie, unfortunately. Current Amazon HDR includes:
-The Man in the High Castle
- Highston
- Edge
- Good Girls Revolt
- Patriot
-Z
- One Mississippi
- Red Oaks
- Transparent
- Fury
- Bosch
- Mozart in the Jungle
- Elysium
[Civuck] Here's a condensed list of HDR clips from the "Master List of 4K HDR content" thread
site (link provided a couple rows below.)
Download and place on USB drive and connect to the TV to play. If there are ProRes and H265
be more compatible than the "ProRes" version. NOTE: As of Jan 2016, using the built in V
content to 16:9 format. To retain original video format, use VLC (and Plex may also
Tom Roper (AVS Member) personally made HDR video -
Samsung SUHD HDR DEMO
Fire HDR demo by FOX
Exodus HDR Clip
Life of Pi HDR clip
SWIPE
Colorado ELdorado HDR
Life Untouched HDR
Demo clips online: At Demo UHD 3D site [lcd trinitron]
http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr
Demo clips online: At 4K Cable Labs demo site: [from Gillietalls]
There are (as of 12/13/2015) four clips identified as HDR (lots are just 4K): Eldorado and Life U
bottom of the home page w/the color bars as the thumbnails. Hover your mouse on the thum
name of the clip, and click on the thumbnail to see the details page and scroll down to see th
w/"HDR" in the file name. (The Wipe clips contain a color bar, and then scenes from the Eldor
Wipe clips simulates showing SDR vs. HRD via horizontal wipes in the clip while it's playing.
Play these w/the VLC media player (in Play store on the TV) from a USB stick plugged into the
network (even Ethernet). HDR mode is enaged on the X850C w/these clips - you can confirm
clip is playing. Eldorado appears to have no sound track.
The built in Video app will not play them - says unsupported format.
http://4k.cablelabs.com/
Netflix - As of the 4/7/16 SW update, the Netflix app now has HDR content. It is cur
expected to expand significantly. You must be subsribed to the 4-screen plan on Ne
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1442583571
Roku: Keep in mind that the ROKU 4 does not do HDR at this point. It is unknown a
firmware to do it or not.. Also the Roku 4 has a problem it "red push" when set to o
no need for you to buy one as I believe the X850C could provide all of your needs.
Amazon FireTV stick - does not support HDR.
Youtube: Currently does not support HDR, any video claiming HDR is false
Will YouTube HDR (coming in 2016) be supported on the X850C?
Unclear. So far Sony has ony committed that 2016 models will support YouTube HDR.
From article on flatpanelshd.com: "To deliver HDR through YouTube, Google has had to furthe
has not supported HDR but with VP9-Profile 2 it will. It is unclear whether 2015 TVs with V
Profile 2. Google also has a VP9-Profile 3 in the works.
We have tried to confirm a launch date but so far everyone involved just cite later this year
X93xxC_X94xxC Series
X90xxC_X91xxC Series
X85xxC Series
X84xxC Series (as of Feb 9, 2016 Software update, this series appears to have been added to
Sony 2015 models that support HDR (2014 or earlier models will not have HDR support)
oes the Samsung UBD-K8500 UHD BD player work with the X850C - HDR mode
Aaronwt][Bullywf]
Yes! Aaronwt was the first w/this player and confirmed it works well and HDR mode engages.
[Bullwyf} I did some quick tests with my XBR-75X850C and the Samsung UBD-K8500. The 4K
were just with the built-in features.
The good news: with connected to my TV directly as well as via the Denon AVR-S910W, HDR c
the whole path is HDMI 2.0a compliant. I tested that by copying my 4K HDR demo files into a
K8500's built in media player, the TV switches to HDR mode automatically and the "awesome
directly on the TV. Also, 1080p blu-rays look amazing with this device on this TV. I have it goin
HD/Master, ATMOS, etc.
The bad news: The built-in apps on the K8500 for Netflix, Amazon, Vudu, YouTube etc. do not
darn good, but the X850C's built-in apps are the best quality I have seen on any device. I hop
support to Netflix, Vudu, YouTube etc, at some point. I have no idea if there's HW limitations fr
of my HDR files did not play properly and one did not have any sound. Also, the Plex app on t
videos (HDR or otherwise). I assume the K8500 will fix some file/format decoding/compatibilit
Soon to test: Once my 4K UHD blu-ray disks arrive, I'll give a report on how it all looks. That's
update later this week.
re there any uses of the 2020 color space on other content?
cd trinitron ?]
On all the Sonys and presumably all the Samsungs that support HDR /WCG as a bonus you ca
space with an extended WCG it can look [U]real decent [/U]and demonstrably better looking o
starved HD lite cable /sat channels or have mixed results depending how you set it and of co
up decent 8 bit bt709 .
The trick is to put the live color setting at medium and the color space at bt 2020 and back off
to get a decent WCG expanded color (triluminos enabled ) 10 bit color simulation on cable /sa
on bit starved cable /sat content. OTOH on *some * bt709 content it can oversaturate and so
and has mixed results .
oes the 850C series support the full rec.2020 color gamut? What is required fo
King Richard][Rtings.com]
[King Richard] As far as Rec.2020 color space is concerned, the official HDR specs. don't say t
(no modern display can do that, it's not possible). It simply states that the TV needs to
The specs further stipulate that, in order to have a licence to display the Ultra HD Premium
logo used on our X850C], the TV needs to be able display over 90% of the DCI P3 spec. DCI P3
of P3 would be less than 70% of the Rec.2020 color gamut. [.90 x .72.9 = 65.61%. X850C, at
within a hairs-width of the Premium spec for Rec.2020 support.]
X850C Rec.2020 Support info, from Rtings.com 55X850C review (and see image to right):
[RTings.com 55X850C review] 'Rec.2020', 'BT.2020' & 'Rec BT.2020 UHD' all mean the same th
review, you can see that the x850c covers 65.3871% of full (100%) BT.2020. So even if the fir
full Rec.2020. We suggest to use the wider color gamut only to people that likes over saturate
'Colorspace' to 'BT.2020' (under 'Advanced settings - 'Color').
More from King Richard on HDR brightness
The minimum HDR spec of 1000 nits has to do with the brightness of "specular highlights" (very small
It does not mean that other HDR ready TVs (like the X850C series) will not be able to display HDR but
Logo. In other words, the HDR capable/ready TVs (again, like our X850Cs) that can't reach 1000 nits b
content but the "specular highlights won't be as bright.
"Peak brightness" (and the brightness of 'specular highlights') is only one small part of what HDR is al
capturing/displaying/seeing a lot more details both in the bright parts of the Image as well as the dark
also about better, brighter, more saturated and vibrant "true-to-life" colors, and is closely related to a
The "Color Space" is a 2 dimensional measurement of the color (chroma); the brightness (luminance/l
combine both HDR and WCG (luma+chroma) you get a three dimensional measurement called "Color
range, you can increase the brightness of an image without 'washing out' the colors.
For example, if you are trying to display a bright blue sky with fluffy white clouds on a SDR (standard d
increase the brightness on the sky, the blue will 'wash out' and quickly start fading into white and the
increase the dynamic range, then you have a lot more 'headroom' to play with and therefore you can
retaining the saturation of the blue.
The same goes for the "lower end" of the dynamic range. You can decrease/lower the brightness a lot
you start losing all the 'shadow detail'. The same applies to the "middle" of the dynamic range as well
What brighter,
about more saturated
Dolby Vision -colors.
is that supported? Is there more than one HDR forma
DoctorM]
Whether the X850C will suppot Dolby Vision or simply falls back to SDR (standard dynamic ra
playback, is unknown at this time. The industry has a vested interest in HDR interoperability t
while people wait for clear standard, but it will take work to make that happen.
HDR currently has multiple competing implementations (existing and under discussion/develo
different HDR content types will be enabled to play on different "HDR" hardware, has not yet
pushed by Dolby. The Dolby Vision implementation of HDR goes beyond the current HDR stan
specifications. TV manufacturers (Sony, Samsung, LG) and service providers (Amazon current
delivering HDR content and standards for their platforms, basically trying to get to market as
as soon as they can to capture sales. Kind of like the bad old days of two different HD DVD sta
So asking "Does my TV support HDR?" is like asking "Does my equipment support digital audi
support Dolby Vision?" is more akin to "Does my equipment support DTS audio." Dolby Vision
are multiple digital audio specs (DTS, Dolby Digital, etc.), and there are multiple HDR standar
Which standards any given TV supports will vary. The X850C series currently supports HDR co
support HDR content in the two HDR movie tralier clips (Life of Pi, and Exodus) that have been
The 2016 line down to the 850D series will be "HDR Compatible" at a minimum, just like this year HDR
940 will directly support the HDR Premium requirements including being FALD. And, Sony isn't going t
marketing/labeling even though they helped to define it. :) In other words, the customer-confusing us
They have a new lighting tech they are going to use for TAH-DAH thinner TVs on the X930C and below
sets was on the 900 series this year). :eek:
Sony has designed the BRAVIA Televisions software update process to be customer friendly. This soft
(version PKG3.307.0101NAB) provides the following benefits:
New logo for sets that are 100% compatible with the new HDR spec. Be
"HDR Compatible" used w/850C series. Sony 2016 HDR plans -------------
============================================
Sony X850C "HDR compatible" messaging (below)
If you find this confusing, try Schrdinger's Cat thought experiment
Video explaining Schrodinger's Cat Thought Experiement (pre-HDR)
4K Fan had success with these settings
I changed my HDMI 3 setting from Standard to Enhanced, changed the picture setting to 4:4:4
controlled with everything zeroed out, and slipped in 'The Martian' disc. And it was gorgeous!
picture as the disc could provide, with the full HDR effect, and no dropout or glitches.
Recommended settings from the X930C/X940C just for comparison's sake:
Brightness: Max
Contrast: Max
Gamma: 0
Black Level: 50
Black Adjust: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Auto Local Dimming: Medium (N/A on X850C)
X-tended Dynamic Range: High (N/A on X850C)
Color: 65
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Color Space: Auto
Live Color: Low
Sharpness: 50
Reality Creation: Manual
- Resolution: 20
Mastered in 4K: off
Random Noise Reduction: Off
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
CineMotion: Off
Click image to see full size version.
Rtings.com review of the 55X850C.
Very interesting post from Civuck
I've been thinking a lot about this myself also, and it seems with HDR, a lot of previous fundamentals
about display calibration are getting thrown out.
And like with 3D before it, I think there will be a lot of short-term novelty with HDR before viewer com
wins in the end. 1000 nits of brightness is the new 3D glasses - both too uncomfortable to the viewer
viewing.
I would venture to say that all properly calibrated displays are not done with settings that push the dis
maximum brightness potential. If anything, properly calibrated displays often get accused of being too
So where does that leave us? I think LG makes a stronger - if not more realistic- argument for HDR by
"dark end" of the brightness scale, where OLED really excels. If viewers, for comfort reasons, are just g
back those 1000 nit capable displays - what's the value of that capability? I think there will be more va
in common lighting environments - in being able to resolve and convey more detail in the darker area
Going a bit off track from 850C discussion... sorry...but I like and think this is more reasonable and rea
arguments: Interesting graphic from this post in the thread --->
What about Sony's 2016 line - how will it support HDR?
The 2016 line down to the 850D series will be "HDR Compatible" at a minimum, just like this year HDR
the 850C, but only the top end 940 will directly support the HDR Premium requirements including bein
Sony isn't going to use the HDR Premium logo/ID in their marketing/labeling even though they helped
In other words, the customer-confusing usual mish-mash.
They have a new lighting tech they are going to use for TAH-DAH thinner TVs on the X930C and below
how great focusing on thinner sets was on the 900 series this year). :eek:
Jan 16, 2016: User on Sony forum on X910C has DirecTV 4K Ready w
What kind of boxes/connections does theDirecTV 4K Ready service re
Does the HDMI from the Sony connect to the DVR Genie or to the 4K
[Butchbr73]
I keep hearing about RVU in relationg to DirecTV, Sony even said the
that?
[400Mhz Man]
X850C DirecTV 4K Ready FAQ
What is the DirecTV 4K Ready feature?
This feature, supported by the DirecTV Ready app on your TV's home screen, will allow you
have a mini-Genie connected directly to your X850C. You will use the DirecTV app to contro
Is "DirectTV 4K Ready" service enabled on the X850C? I can see the DirecT
YES, as of December 15 2015 firmware update - See graphic to the right from Milt99,
What does "DirecTV 4K Ready" mean? You get to have one less connection to your TV, and
Beeper: "Once the DirecTV 4k ready is active in the Sony, you won't need the Genie mini, s
X850C via the DirecTV Ready app. You will need any type of primary HD display with the re
work around), and use the Sony X850C as the secondary display. The Sony X850C display w
From the DirecTV site: A DIRECTV 4K Ready TV has a built-in RVU technology that lets you
a receiver when its used as an additional TV in a Genie HD DVR setup... (Article below):
https://support.directv.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4385/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS
DirecTV page w/info on DirecTV 4K: https://support.directv.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/44
Unless you have DirecTV from CostCo, you may have to pay for a DirecTV service call to co
Jan 16, 2016: User on Sony forum on X910C has DirecTV 4K Ready working
"Just wanted to say that I had a ****** of a time getting it set up correctly, but my XBR75X
tuner. My experience with the DirecTV installer was horrible. 99% of everything he said abo
everywhere there is a TV. When he started setting up everything to work on WiFi I question
ethernet it will screw everything up". From this point on I knew it was going to require patie
Once I had everything set up on ethernet it worked fine as I originally thought. The problem
account. I had to wait several days for them to come back out. Once the technician arrived
the "Location" I needed and left. I patiently switched everything back to ethernet and all is
There are a few bugs in the software for the "DirecTV 4k Ready" tuner on the Sony that req
- "DirecTV 4k Ready" TV's don't work. Not true. Not bug free, but they work fine.
- 4K content takes 24 hours to download. Not true. I have 30MB down internet and most pr
your connection speed.
- The only 4k content is Pay Per View. Not true there is free content.
- You can't use your existing wired(ethernet) instead of their DECA/WiFi network. Not true a
up to work more efficiently on your wired home network."
The main benefit of using DirecTV 4K Ready feature is reduction in connections required to
From Beeper: "...you must use the Genie on at least one display in the household, so the $
need the Genie mini receiver directly attached to them. It seems that the only adva
network as a second display and being able to access the Genie through your network, but
router." NOTE: See results of Lash42 above and to the right - a Genie box may no
From AVS member Tronner: "I just spoke to DirecTV about this for a bit. It's very possible th
CSRs, but she said that even though the receiver is no longer needed you still pay the $6.5
come out to set it up (I tried to have them send someone out for free or a reduced charge
not having the genie and the wires to the genie (quicker streaming, stronger signal, etc). S
you continue to pay what you pay plus $49 for them to do it, and you lose the box and ass
From 400MHz Man: DirecTV support content quote: "DIRECTV Genie HD DVR (HR34 and ab
fees may apply. 4K Genie Mini supports only one (1) 4K program viewing in the household
order to deliver 4K programming. A DIRECTV 4K Ready TV supports 4K programming witho
in the knowledge base https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answer...5,66/related/1 you can see t
a DECA that connects coax to ethernet. So even though you might not have a jack there m
wired connection.
Does the HDMI from the Sony connect to the DVR Genie or to the 4K Genie
[Butchbr73]
The HDMI needs to connect to the 4k Genie Mini. The DVR Genie (main box), needs to be p
What DirecTV 4K content is available now?
Look here:
http://www.directv.com/technology/4k?ACM=false&lpos=Header:3
I keep hearing about RVU in relationg to DirecTV, Sony even said the most
that?
[400Mhz Man]
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/RVU_Alliance
[Milt99] DirecTV now lists Sony XBRs as DirecTV4k ready.
You don't need the separate Genie mini box (but you will pay).
[Lash42]
I have to concur with others that the DirecTV installers are often clueless regarding connection
of a true DirecT-ready TV. Fortunately I had done some prior research and printed out some
hookup diagrams from the Sony website. Bottom line is that the direct hookup using the
DECA broadband bridge (supplied by DirecTV) works great, without the need for
the Genie mini. The only complaint I have is the remote response using the internal DirecTV
app is a bit sluggish so when watching non-4K content, I use the full H54 DirecTV DVR hooked
up through the HDMI4 port.
I have to say that this truly seems like a smart TV compared to my prior Samsung so-called
"smart TV". Auto-switching inputs and control of external devices is very intuitive. And the
audio using the TV speakers when watching mundane (news, etc.) content is pretty good
considering you can't even see any TV speakers. Normally I'm listening through my Onkyo 609
receiver though.
I do not have a separate Genie mini client box, only the H54 Genie main DVR
receiver, and I do have to pay the fee for an "additional TV" (which is the same as the
fee for a Genie mini). I am having no issues with this setup at all. The reason for the extra TV
fee is that it is possible to run a separate TV off the H54 Genie DVR while the Sony TV is acting
as a client by itself (though I don't have a second TV).
X850C 3D FAQ
How do I enable 3D in Kodi, Archos, Plex, VLC, or other Video apps whe
automatically, and the 3D option doesn't appear in the Action menu wh
[cbecerril][DoctorM][tron49]
Why does my 3D look so bad!? How do I fix that?
Can I adjust how 3D looks to improve the picture?
[Aibo4Ever]
Is there anything I can do if my 3D isn't working well and I've tried the
X850C 3D FAQ
Active 3D: The X850C series uses Active 3D, which requires 3D glasses that have batteries ins
open/close rapidly in each lens to provide the 3D effect. Some people find Active 3D harder to
3D glasses (the type used in most theaters) will not work with the X850C TVs.
Purchase Active 3D Glasses: The TV does not come w/3D glasses, you'll have to buy them if y
vendor should work. See a couple rows below for a list of 3D glasses known to work w/the X85
Xpand/Mitsubishi glasses.
Pair 3D glasses with your TV: Active 3D glasses need to be paired w/your TV. Glasses will com
process to complete.
Find the right 3D Content Types: The TV supports two types of 3D content: 1) SBS (side-by-sid
there are two images that the glasses combine to make a 3D image, and the two images are
(OU) eacth other. The 3D glasses then combine those images to create a 3D image. The TV d
find posted on Youtube. See below for more on 3D content.
- Youtube: Content will stream properly from the Youtube app on the TV, but finding the right 3D conte
Searching on terms like "3D video SBS" (SBS for side-by-side) or similar can help to narrow down to 3D
SBS video on Youtube titled: "Demo 3D[SBS] (HD : 1080p)" - It has really cool effects, works perfectly.
- Roku/FireTV: Roku does not appear to support any 3D content for our TV.
- FireTV stick: Does not support any 3D content for our TV.
- 3D DVD/BD: If your DVD/BD player supports 3D you can obviously play those on your TV and they sh
- Other streaming services: Vudu has been identified as working. If you've successfully played 3D from
add that information here.
- Amazon and Netflix apps on the TV: The Amazon and Netflix apps on the TV currently do not work fo
apps currently cannot stream compatible 3D content to the X850C. So even if you find 3D content in t
[Aaronwt] You can use an external device connected via HDMI to play Netflix 3D content. I use a Son
TV. 3D also works from the Samsung K8500 UHD BD player. At least with the Vudu 3D title
Why can't I play 4K 3D content I found on YouTube?
[Aaronwt]
According to the manual, the highest resolution the X850C can handle for 3D side/side and top/bottom
There is no official 4K 3D format like the existing 1080P frame packed 3D from a BD which is the best
With 4K there is no frame packed 3D format. I guess with those videos each image would be 1920x21
handle 3D with each image at 1920x1080 at up to 30P
What 3D glasses are known to work w/the X850C series?
Sony TDG-BT500A / TDG-BT400A. Weight 32g. These are both the same; 500A sold in retail, while 400
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-TDG-BT500...dp/B00C50KRO2/.
Sony Bluetooth (RF) 3D Glasses. Rechargeable. Expensive at $50 a pair. Glass lenses, wrap-around to
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006CRUZG4?psc=1
Samsung SSG-5150GB Conflicting information: Some said they worked, but [billdag] and [kaphka] ha
glasses are acting up just like yours. They work great on my Samsung but only half work on the Sony.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00INO6JX2 - currently only $19.99. Pair bought from eBay were
XPAND/Mitsubishi models X105-BT, X105-M1, and X105-RF (these are rechargeable). Weight 38g. Thes
numbers. They are all Xpand 3D glasses. They may be listed as "Mitsubishi 3D glasses" and refer to M
w/the X850C. The packaging for the X105-BT/X105-M1-BT "Mitsubishi" branded item on Amazon
BT and X105RF on a label on the glasses, and are currently only $20. Edit 12/9 - price raised to $30!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A279MD2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpa
The Xpand X105-RF-X1 retails for $40 and as noted above, appears to be the same pair of glasses as t
http://www.amazon.com/XPAND-X105-RF-X1-Rechargeable-Bluetooth-Glasses/dp/B00BFO4XSA/ref=sr_
1&keywords=xpand+x105-rf-x1
Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU. Weight 26g. ~$18.99. [gadget-zilla] Work great with Sony X850C, are r
videos (top and bottom & side by side) on youtube. [thyname] Picked these up on Amazon for about $
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TY-ER3D4MU-Active-Shutter-Eyewear/dp/B007EHI1DK/ (Pic to rig
Dimensional Optics 3Active rechargeable glasses. Jevans64 reported: "I don't see any crosstalk, but I'm
How do I pair (sometimes called register) my 3D glasses with my TV?
Make sure the glasses are fully charged. There have been issues reported w/pairing that were resolve
The steps to pair glasses with the TV are at the link below. In most cases you need to turn on the 3D g
"activation" mode (see the instructions for your glasses), and then hold them in front of the lower edg
"See" the glasses and register then for 3D use and you'll see a message confirming that on the TV.
Pair Active 3D Glasses with Sony Android TV
How do I resolve problems pairing/registering 3D glasses with my TV?
[DoctorM][Wittydal]
[DoctorM] Try rebooting your TV. That worked last time I had problems getting the glasses to pair.
[wittydal] The only way I was able to get my two Sony TDG-BT500A 3D glasses to sync with the TV is b
not 3D content. Yes, that's right, the instructions are wrong! And, the glasses are not bluetooth; so you
of your TV remotes and then try syncing the glasses. That worked for me with two pairs of glasses.
I have 3D glasses, I've registered/paired them with my TV, and I've found/bou
Enable 3D: Once you have your 3D content and glasses, and have paired your 3D glasses w/your TV, y
to turn on your 3D glasses, and you also have to turn on 3D mode on your TV. You manage your 3D se
cases the TV can recognize 3D content and play it back w/out setting 3D mode manually, but this see
I have 3D Signal notification set to "On," why doesn't 3D mode engage autom
3D detection seems to be there, but just doesn't seem to work very consistently.
The Archos video app (from the Play store) seems to play ripped SBS 3D movies (MP4) and engage 3D
The built in Video app does not recognize the same files as 3D, so you have to use the Action menu to
So it's a mixed bag, more fail than success, with auto recognition of 3D content. .
How do I enable 3D in Kodi, Archos, Plex, VLC, or other Video apps when play
automatically, and the 3D option doesn't appear in the Action menu when usi
[cbecerril][DoctorM][tron49]
These are workarounds that can enable owners of the X850C (and other Android TVs that lack a "3D"
Kodi, Archos, Plex, VLC, etc. That's the good news...the bad news is that it requires either a Harmony
button on it.
The issue: When playing 3D videos back in apps like Kodi, Archos, Plex, etc., the TV's Action menu will
3D.
The solution: [cbecerril] "First post in this thread: I'm sure the Kodi 3d workaround has been discussed
will play 3d fine. I have a Harmony remote and programmed it to use the '3d' button from a 2014 mod
Option 1 - Harmony or other programmable remote with access to a code database. I tested his sugge
in Kodi, works in Archos, works in Plex. I expect it will work period. (See more info on using old Comca
Then start the 3D movie in Kodi or Archos or Plex (and this should work for any video app) and then hi
will appear on screen (Selections: Off, 3D (Side-by-Side), 3D (Over-Under)). Select the appropriate 3D
Option 2 - use an older Sony remote that has the 3D button on it. If you don't have one, you can buy a
See the link below.
3D mode is not turned on in settings: Remember you have to turn on 3D mode in the Action menu>3D
Viewing distance: Sit at least 3 times the height of the screen away to avoid double images. Sit directl
Viewing angle: 3D is sensitive to vertical and horizontal viewing angle - you'll get your best results dir
farther you are sitting from that point, the more problems you will have with 3D.
Unsupported 3D content: The 3D content you're viewing may not be supported by the X850C. "Anagl
sometimes content that is marked side-by-side or over-under won't work either, possibly due to the en
Poor content: Some 3D content is just likely to be poorly prepared, depending on the source.
Problem with app: "Another thing I'm noticing is that if I watch a 3D movie streamed from my NAS, w
from my nexus player using Kodi and connected via HDMI I have no problem. [Luisrcastillo]
Crosstalk: A common 3D problem is called "crosstalk" which is when the content in the two images th
other, causing shadows and other artifacts that make viewing the content unsatisfactory. This may be
TV (Depth and Brightness) or in the player (if a BD device).
You hate Active 3D: For some people Active 3D just doesn't work - the shutters opening/closing in the
This can be alleviated in some cases by adjusting the 3D settings in the TV (Depth and Brightness) or
don't like Active 3D.
Action menu> 3D
I can only tell you what works for us on our equipment, as from all the varied posts on this thread peo
results, especially with 3D content. It doesnt help that this thread combines the 55, 65, and 75 set
different problems and successes and taking advice from an owner of a different size set doesnt seem
is the best thing about this TV. When paired with the Xpand glasses (model X105-RF-X1), for us, the re
and have looked at a large number of them to evaluate this set and have nothing but good things to s
banding that we are debating if a return or exchange is necessary). The 3D is cleaner on this set than
own. We play our Blu-rays on a Panasonic DMP-BDT220, but have also played them off a connected PC
We do not stream a lot of content but I did check a couple of 3D titles on VUDU streaming from a PS4
I can tell you that picture settings DO have a strong impact on the 3D quality We are still trying differe
advance picture settings, it seems Motionflow and CineMotion both need to be turned OFF. We experim
produced the cleanest 3D image. As far as picture modes, we have found that Game Mode creates the
restrictive as far as available picture adjustment settings, but it produces an absolutely rock solid 3D i
source material that has inherent ghosting issues. As an example, if you own the 3D Blu-ray of Gravity
is Crosstalk (ghosting) inherent in the Blu-ray release right as the figure floats by the camera. I have f
pauses and stays in the 3D mode) and then I have tried different picture setting modes. In spite of the
some reason it is almost non-existent. We have checked other trouble spots in other movies, such as t
similar background lights in the steel yard scenes in Pacific Rim, and in GAME MODE there is a crystal
We've gotten Archos and Plex to work, but clearly YMMV, as I couldn't get Plex to work (probably beca
and Shakuyi couldn't get Archos to work, but Plex did work for him. :)
[Danabw]I have played SBS 3D movies on the TV via the Archos app. The TV goes into 3D mode autom
put on my 3D glasses. I have also had success with the Plex and Kodi apps, since recent (Feb 2016) u
Kodi app now seems to work. Clear data on the app if you have audio issues after upgrading it.
[Shakuyi] So I was unsuccessful at getting Archos to properly play a 3D file from my HTPC, too much la
side by side.
The only way I can get 3D to work with Plex is if I enable 3D side by side content from the action menu
workaround but no biggie because as soon as I go to plex the glasses work well. I even had a friend st
not have any settings changed other than having Plex running on a i5 desktop. I hope that helps anyo
Is there anything I can do if my 3D isn't working well and I've tried the option
Call Sony and complain! If we don't tell them about issues and make it clear that we want the
Sony Support US phone numbers:
1-800-222-7669
1-239-245-6354
Is Sony working on any 3D updates?
[3Dset]
~Jan 16 or so, a user posted that Sony was replacing their main board due to a pro
may end up needing a repair. More info when available.
Maybe...from 3Dset:
bigddy263 wrote:
I talked to Sony again today. They are waiting for some other sets of the same type to arrive back at s
Thanks for the update. Hopefully they'll have an answer for us.
[aaronwt]...some recent info posted today mentioned that 3D would only be on the upper
Also, if you have any of those older whale sized grey/silver Comcast/Xfinity remotes, they are One-For
from our Sony remote and then some. I have direct buttons for TV, Component and each HDMI input.
Now I have 3D Mode.
For those using these remotes the 3D button EFC is 53035. That info comes thanks to som
Using the 3D option with Kodi is awkward. You need press the button you've assigned to the 3D comm
any picture or sound settings you want changed, because the current version of Kodi will kick you out
Accessing 3D Settings using this work-around: It should be noted for those buying remotes, the
have no access to the '3D Settings' menu which has the submenus of 3D Display, Depth Adjustment, G
You will want to pre-set the last three options from another non-Sony App. Similar to how there are Pic
YouTube is a good place to do this, but not the Sony Video App, etc.
[tron49]
You can get the 3D code from this. http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Original-Rm-yd102-Keyboard-149276
(See link to the left below to replacement Sony remote with 3D button, on Amazon for $12!)
Pic from Aibo4Ever - purchased at Best Buy 15 day return option.
option.
X850C Troubleshooting & Known Issues (See the HDR FAQ tab for HDR
About those picture settingsI tried a couple versions of them and the
Why is the Video app on the TV forcing all my videos to 16:9 ratio - I'm
4:3 SD content is getting zoomed as well! [DoctorM]
Why does my TV sometimes turn on when I'm not there, or turn back on
[DenisG][jonathanpsyc][brilithos][asg.srtw]
Why does my TV sometimes go to a black screen/turn itself off?
[Sony Support]
Why do I get a blank screen (but sound works), or messed up colors if I
Or a blank screen on any input?
[Civuck]
I attached a USB drive to one of the TV's USB ports, but I don't see the
how do I access the content on my USB drive?
Why does Windows tell me that my USB thumb drive needs to be scann
attach it to my PC?
Why can't I get DD 5.1 or DTS HD/DD+, Dolby True HD, etc., from the TV
[Bp787]
HDMI-CEC/ARC TROUBLESHOOTING
I can't get HDMI-CEC/ARC to work - I have all the settings correct, what
[400MHz Man][bp787][thyname]
If I'm using an optical audio cable, do I need a certain type, and is there
I get double volume display bars on-screen when using ARC over HDMI.
[Nezff]
How can I get the Kodi app to output 5.1 to external speakers via ARC o
[Captdan27][theetjuh][bp787]
Can I have some help with the Plex app, please? Can I get 5.1 from the
[Charlyne]
I'm having problems playing MKV files, is there a way to fix that?
[DoctorM]
I'm having trouble getting ARC via HDMI working - any suggestions?
Content I play from one of my HDMI inputs is very dull with grey blacks
[Virtualrain]
When I press the Display button it says the resolution is something oth
480i, etc. What do I need to do to get the TV to display 4K?
Sometimes when I press the Display button it doesn't work, nothing ha
After the last FW update (12/15) Jeff's Chroma 4:4:4 was totally broken
from my PC flickers from time to time. How did he fix It, you ask!?
[Jeff Chen]
When I turn on the TV, a message appears: "Picture reset mode is on, y
and my TV gets set to Vivid mode - how do I turn this off!?
The TV inteface is lagging, I'm getting blank screens, or things are just
to see if that helps. How do I reboot the TV? (The normal on/off w/the r
I'm streaming a show from Netflix that is supposed to be in 4K/UHD, bu
input resolution is 1080p. Why aren't I getting 2160 (4K) input from Ne
Why can't I get 4K/UHD content from Netflix or Amazon Instant Video o
My TV Picture mode has gotten stuck in HDR mode - how can I fix that?
[Bullwyf]
The clock that appears with the info displayed when I hit the Display bu
way to set it?
Whenever I try to install or update an app from the Google Play store it
moving but it never downloads or installs. I can't download new apps o
An app isn't working right - it keeps freezing up, or doesn't function pro
Why should I be cautious about using the "Streaming Channels" app?
[Tron49][Aaronwt]
How do I restart the TV (completely reboot it, not just the normal on/off
How do I reset the TV (Factory data reset) if I have some serious issues
You're correct. Most of the recommended settings from users and professional reviewers resu
CNET notes in their calibration article:
The default settings that TV's ship with tend to be way too bright and way too bluedesigned
settings, and may be initially appealing in general ("Bright is best, right?"). When picture sett
will look darker. It's up to you if you prefer that or want more of a "showroom" picture. What's
someone else likes best in their home on their TV. That said, it's worth giving the alternate se
Obviously, the recommended settings in this spreadsheet are from people w/varied levels of e
in varied viewing conditions. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary), i.e., what someone else uses an
What is the most common fix for issues w/the TV?
Reboot the TV. Seriously. In many cases the first thing you should try is rebooting the
types of strange behavior, like unresponsive or slowly responding apps, blank screens, apps li
menu isn't working properly, slow-downs in the responsiveness of the TV, etc., etc. The TV is e
TV release is still relatively new, and sometimes requires a reboot.
Long-press on the Power button on the remote control. The TV will power do
in that case simply turn it on w/the remote.
If that doesn't help try pulling the plug on the TV for 5-10 minutes and t
clearing data on apps and other options.
Yuu know you are rebooting when you see the circling color motes and the Android logo durin
Why do some shows/channels from my cable provider or other content source
[aaronwt]
The most likely reason is the GIGO Effect - Garbage in, Garbage out. If the TV is fed a signal th
there is only so much the TV can do with that signal when it upscales it to 4K. Remember, the
that isn't natively 4K is upscaled to 4K automatically. See the bolded info below for a r
upscale a lower res input, even an "HD 720p signal" to 4K! It's pretty amazing when you think
[aaronwt]
First of all it's only 720P. Then if the cable system further compresses it(like Comcast does in m
it needs to be blown up to eight times the original size to fill the screen of a UHD T
So even if you start with a good image, it can only look so good after being blown up. And if y
area, it's going to look even worse.
The Amazon Instant Video app is hanging and unable to connect - how can I fi
[ricey40]
Reboot. This happens to my 850C occasionally. Only way I have found to work around it is to
remote until the TV reboots). Annoying that I have to do this, but so far that has always gotte
Why am I unable to log into the Amazon app?
We don't actually know why, but in some cases a small number of owners have reported bein
Factory Reset could fix this issue, but no one has tried that yet.
[Z1-B] FWIW on my X850C that loads the Amazon app but wont log into my Amazon acct to re
The same log-in works fine on the PC's ,PS3 and Roku and another device.
How do I reset picture settings to return to stock settings for a picture mode
settings to factory default settings.)
[Sonoma13]
Action menu>Picture settings>Advanced Settings>Reset>Reset (Return all picture settings to
Select the PIcture mode you wish to reset - the reset works for the currently selected picture m
Select the Advanced settings option on the Picture mode settings
Scroll down and highlight the Reset option at the bottom of the Advanced Settings menu (belo
Scroll to the right and highlight "Reset - Return all picture settings to factory default"
Press OK/Enter to confirm picture settings reset. It will reset the settings for the currently sele
Note: If you simply press OK/Enter when the Reset menu option on the left is highlighted, noth
Reboot the TV. Long-press on the Power button on the remote control. The TV will powe
down, in that case simply turn it on w/the remote.
If that doesn't help you can try pulling the plug on the TV for 15-30 minutes and the
Yuu know you are rebooting when you see the circling color motes and the Android logo durin
Why is the Video app on the TV forcing all my videos to 16:9 ratio - I'm losing
4:3 SD content is getting zoomed as well! [DoctorM]
Sony broke the built in Video app w/the 11/24 FW update - all content plays at 16:9. "All cont
original aspect ratio and the display aspect ratio. I've tested DLNA. I've tested USB. I've stopp
You can play 2.25:1 or 4:3 and it will all come out 16x9. If you push the 'Wide' button on the r
adjust the aspect ratio manually in the app.
You'll have to use another video player until Sony fixes the Video app, assuming they didn't d
the Play store on the TV include VLC, MX player, Kodi, and Archos to name a few.
NEW: A potential work-around using the Video app that might help in some cases to get you
1. Start the video playing in the video app and then pause it.
2. Hit the Action menu - you'll see three choices in the "Video" section of the Action menu to
- Expand
- Play options
- \/ (an arrow pointing down)
Scroll right to the Video menu, then two additional options on the Video menu replace the dow
-Expand
-Play options
-Information
-Settings
Expand does nothing, video stays letterboxed. Nothing on Settings helps. Play Options displa
Select "Information" This opens a screen showing a preview thumbnail of the video w/an optio
found that if he selected that thumbnail of the video to play it from that view that it would sta
illustrate. I've overlaid an expanded view of the Video menu to make it easier to see.
Why does my TV sometimes turn on when I'm not there, or turn back on right
[DenisG][jonathanpsyc][brilithos][asg.srtw]
As always, try rebooting the TV first. If that doesn't help, below are several potential causes/s
1. [DenisG]Mine started turning itself on. I would it off, go in the other room and it would be b
unplugged it for a half a day and it stopped turning itself back on for now.
2. [jonathanpsyc] I had the same issue. I think the issue was related to connected apps on m
to Home>Settings>Network- and turn remote start off. This would apply if you are usin
3. [brilithos]I had that issue too. Because I use ARC, and have my cable box on all the tim
TV off last. Otherwise, if the TV is on HDMI4/ARC and I turn my TV and other devices off, my c
Onkyo's HDMI pass through to the TV, which then turns the TV back on. Switching the order o
summary is - If you have Bravia Sync turned on on the TV and you have a device sending sig
turn back on (it thinks you're trying to start using it with that device). If you have enabled B
your TV via HDMI are off when the TV is off. If you aren't using Bravia Sync, and don't w
4. [Asg.srtw] What helped, at least for the past few days, was uninstalling some sideloaded a
from usb dongle to Bluetooth connection.
5. You could try this Sony doc on resetting the Sony remote just in case it's sometimes sendin
turned off: https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/38472/kw/How%20to%20troubl
Why does my TV sometimes go to a black screen/turn itself off?
[Sony Support]
Try disabling features that may cause the TV to turn off automatically:
This is a known issue with devices connected to the TV via a Component connection. It only a
Temporary fix: Reboot: long press on remote Power button. If that doesn't help you can
plugging it back in. In one case one owner found that the only fix was doing a Factory Reset,
back.
There is no fix known, no software update from Sony to fix this yet. If you reboot the TV (long
away for a little while, but the problem will come back.
Options:
- Apps
- Apps (Video)
- Apps (Photo)
- HDMI-1
- HDMI-2
- HDMI-3
- HDMI-4
- Component
From Civuck: When you go to the Picture Adjustments or Sound adjustments menus, (Action m
adjustments) the menu will indicate at the top {below the "Picture Adjustments" or "Sound Ad
For example, the PIcture adjustments menus for the HDMI1 input and for Netflix (which is in th
App categories: Sony assigns each app installed on the TV to one of three categories: 1) "App
know that Sony's pre-installed apps like Amazon, Netflix, and the Videos app are all in "Apps (
"Apps." When you change the settings for an app in a category, all apps in that category will
adjustment menu in each app you use to confirm that you know which category it is in and w
Remember, you do not need to select HDR picture mode to play back HDR content on any inp
engage HDR picture mode automatically. See the HDR FAQ tab for more info.
I'm worried that I may have problems with my display - I see light bleed comi
anything I can do about it?
[bp787][VirtualRain]
65" sony x850c "blue edge blooming": A condition where a blue discoloration is seen on t
This condition does not occur on every video/movie/show. The blue bloom can be observed up
the discoloration may present as yellowish coloring. Mostly observed in darker scenes. Some
some are not very noticable and a few have reported not to have any discoloration. This is no
lit. Example image to right.
The blue edges on the 65 are most definitely not an off angle viewing issue. You see them on
no issue and neither do other sets.
[bp787] This doesn't appear to be a firmware-fixable issue. I think it's a manufacturing issue w
[VirtualRain] Agreed. There is some issue unique to some 65" sets that causes this. It must be
the frame. You know when you have this issue. The only remedy is to exchange it.
Below is a link to a spreadsheet that bp787 has prepared with more information, links to test
with this issue. The current version as of 1-13-2016 has also been copied to the last tab in th
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/SonyBleedTest_xbr65x850c.xlsx
My TV has clouding - is there anything I can do about that? Seriously, wipe m
Clouding: We have three options that can reduce clouding issues on your TV. 1) Picture settin
surprised about what we're recommending, but it has helped X850C owners. Examples and m
2. Wipe method [rtings.com]: There's a pretty simple fix that - while not guaranteed - can h
image. This will allow you to see the lighter spots on the screen. Next, take a soft cloth and m
You should only apply very gentle pressure. Virtualrain reported reduced clouding after doing
have a new set. Backlight uniformity is greatly improved! Other users have also reported goo
This technique is not guaranteed to work, and theres a slight possibility you could make the u
Alternatively, you might consider returning or exchanging your television. Some models are m
same model, some TVs can have more of this issue due to a slight variance in the manufactu
exchange it for the same model before going with an entirely different one. Extreme cases of
How can Bias Lighting help with clouding and other uniformity issues?
(See the "Other Useful Stuff" tab for more info on bias lighting and links to bias lighting kits) Art
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Bias lighting is a very simple "trick" you can play on your eyes to significantly improve your v
behind the TV, usually reflected from the back of the TV to the wall behind the TV) can signific
and mask otherwise troublesome issues. Bias lighting is one of the easiest DIY additions w/gre
See the "What is bias lighting and why would I want it?" article at the link below to learn why
One issue: If you plug bias lights into one of the USB ports on the TV to power them, the bias
The set appears to "wake up" internally at intervals to do housekeeping (check for FW/app up
port temporarily. So the bias lights won't be on all the time, but they will come on from time t
the set into suspend mode). To get around this, you can 1) Plug your lights into an external po
a "smartswitch" power strip that turns power off to other components when the main compon
Antec bias lighting referred to on the Other Useful Stuff tab, the bias light strip has a built-in p
on the TV. (I know, that last option is not so convenient). Unless the TV is in the room where y
important to know about in advance, of course.
[Cchen327] On my 2nd replacement I have clouding and corner light bleed on the bottom righ
dana's FAQ and it did not do much for it unfortunately.
I read the bias lighting section and gave it a shot by ordering a $60 set from amazon. When I
guess the added brightness behind the screen hides these defects fairly well so if anyone was
also hide some of the slight defects you might have on the screen as an added bonus.
Click here to jump to more Bias Lighting info including Bias Lighting sets purchased
My TV has flashlighting - anything I can do about that?
Flashlighting is uneven lighting that comes in from the four corners of the TV, almost as if the
the center point of the TV screen.
[rtings.com] This can sometimes be fixed on some televisions. If your flashlighting issue is ca
adjust it by slightly loosening or tightening the screws behind the edge of the screen. Some te
change in the tightness of a screw can have a big impact on the uniformity of the screen, so b
I attached a USB drive to one of the TV's USB ports, but I don't see the drive
how do I access the content on my USB drive?
The Android TV OS (like the mobile version) doesn't use drive icons like PC and Mac laptops/d
access the content on it from apps - you won't get a drive letter/icon appearing on the Home
Assuming the drive you've attached has video content, after you connect the drive, you can o
can also download and install alternate video apps from the Google Play store on your TV like
your drive.
When you open one of those video apps you should see your drive listed as a local resouce.
One caution about the built-in Video app - it has a bug currently where it forces all video conte
video content on your drive, you're better off using VLC or Kodi to play back video from your d
If the drive has photo content then you'll access it using an app designed for photos - for exam
photos.
There is an app you can install from the Play store called ES File Explorere that you can use to
files there, etc. But it's not a video/photo viewing app. It's in the Play store on the TV.
Why does Windows tell me that my USB thumb drive needs to be scanned eve
attach it to my PC?
Use either NTFS or exFAT format on your USB thumb drive to fix this.
DoctorM discovered that using NTFS format on a USB thumb drive gets rid of the "this drive must be s
was disconeced from the TV and connected to a computer. exFAT format works as well.
So either use NTFS (windows read/write, Mac Read only) or exFAT (Windows, Mac, and Linux read/write
Why can't I get DD 5.1 or DTS HD/DD+, Dolby True HD, etc., from the TV to m
[Bp787]
If you are outputting sound to a soundbar or receiver, via optical cable or HDMI/ARC, best resu
Home>Settings>Sound>Digital Audio Out. Set to Auto 2 to output DD/DTS surround so
Below are additional audio settings required on your TV and on your connected dev
* Home>Settings>External Inputs>Bravia Sync settings; Enable Bravia Sync
* On your connected device (usually receiver or soundbar), enable Bravia Sync (Sony device)
different names for HDMI-CEC. You need to figure out if your device supports HDMI-CEC, and w
you can enable it.
* Home>Settings>Sound>Speakers. Set to Audio System
* Use the HDMI4 connection on the TV if you're using ARC - that is the only ARC-ena
Second: The most this TV will output is DD 5.1, DTS, and stereo PCM. The TV cannot outp
The TV may convert those types of formats to 5.1, but not necessarily for all types.
Third: The app doesn't support DD/DTS. In that case you'll only get stereo from anything you
Finally, formats like Dolby True HD should be sent directly to a receiver via HDMI, not through
Dolby True HD (and DTS-HD MA), I bitstream to my speaker bar. I only use the TV for the on b
only DD or stereo pcm audio (or DTS-although I haven't used any of the internal apps and see
NOTE: When using ARC you may need to completely reboot or power off both the tv
rebooting them (long press on Power button on TV to reboot TV, turn receiver off/o
and receiver, wait 30 seconds, then plug back in. sometimes there's weirdness with
HDMI-CEC/ARC TROUBLESHOOTING
I can't get HDMI-CEC/ARC to work - I have all the settings correct, what's wro
[400MHz Man][bp787][thyname]
Unplug/Replug: Disconnect all cables to TV and AVR (including all HDMI cables). Put them b
connection first, then the others. See if the ARC and Bravia Sync work via built in TV apps firs
each other.
Too many devices: HDMI-CEC (aka Bravia Sync) only allows three connected devices that fa
= 3. If you have four devices connected to your system that will overload the HDMI-CEC limit
work correctly/consistently. The only fix is to remove one device.
Samsung K8500 4K DVD player: Some owners have reported that the Sony K8500 plays h
the Sammy BD player to the TV (it has the Main HDMI port out to the TV HDMI Input #1 for vid
Bravia Sync and ARC channel do not work."
Bad behaved devices: Some devices do not support HDMI CEC, but the HDMI chip in the de
disabled in the device firmware. Result: they can cause misoperation of other HDMI-CED devic
devices are in parallel and any one device can mess up the communication for all of the devic
There is no way on these devices to to stop the errant behavior). Also note that MOST cable
TWC boxes and found NUMEROUS reports of the same issue, i.e. cable box from TWC killing A
There is no "special" version of an optical cable required for your X850C - optical cables are p
versions supporting different types of audio.
If you aren't getting sound over your optical cable and you've followed the audio settings adv
optical audio cable at each end - they can come w/small protective caps over the bulb at each
ends.
I get double volume display bars on-screen when using ARC over HDMI. Any
[Nezff]
When using ARC with the X850C it is common to see both the TV's and your receiver's volume
visual issue, and you can ignore it.
[Nezff] The only workaround I have found is to go into my AVR (marantz 8801) and turn off th
volume on sceen. Also I have noticed my marantz and the tv volume when both on sceen, sho
manufacturers using different numbers to display their "actual" db in volume etc... I know the
The other workaround is the one I mentioned yesterday or day before. I ran optical cable from
happened to be called TV AUDIO (go figure) to OPTICAL 1. While watching Amazon app, I coul
selected on the Marantz. Other than turning off the OSD, I dont see a workaround for the doub
How can I get the Kodi app to output 5.1 to external speakers via ARC or Opt
[Captdan27][theetjuh][bp787]
You may have to use this experimenal version of release 16, until v17 is released w/passthrou
tid=252852
You may have to set Audio Out to PCM for the Kodi app to pass 5.1 to external speakers. Only
Home>Settings>Sound>Digital Audio Out - try the PCM setting if Auto 1 or Auto 2 don't work
[CaptDan27] "One of the Kodi developers (Fritsch) explains the passthrough implementation i
that they have to do a raw PCM stream of the unprocessed compressed format and hope the
decode. This being the case seting PCM output if your using Kodi seems to make sense. As so
correctly it will be trivial to update the Kodi code according to Fritsch."
[theetjuh]
Did a test with the latest v16 PT (pass through) build, posted in the thread with these findings
setting, seems no difference)
Supported:
DD is working fine, except 640kb/s with jerky video.
DTS is working fine.
DTS-HD is working fine, but outputs the DTS stereo core only (Kodi wiki Sample).
Unsupported:
DD+ is not working fine, also 640kb/s with jerky video (Kodi wiki Sample).
TrueHD is not working fine, PCM instead of DD (Kodi wiki Sample).
Atmos is not working fine, PCM instead of DD (Kodi wiki Sample).
I also seem to have an issue that the GUI sounds are making really hard crackling noises afte
Disabling them and re-enabling them, seems to fix it.
Can I have some help with the Plex app, please? Can I get 5.1 from the Plex a
[Charlyne]
The one app I have found to be awesome and with the least problems is Plex. Even if Sony sh
95% of my movie/recorded TV viewing. What a great app, but it too has a couple of issues.
1: 3D does not come up on the Action Menu while in Plex (or any other 3rd party video app). T
or input (ie cable box) then go into Plex and watch your 3D video.
2: Plex must be used with the Plex DLNA server. No problem for me, it's an awesome server d
altogether.
3: No AAC 5.1 audio pass-thru. It converts to stereo as do all the other 3rd party apps. AC3
app, device and TV audio settings are correct. Only the Sony app passes AAC and all other au
4: Subtitles must be imbedded. Since I only use MKV files this is no problem. Many MKV files c
fast for adding/extracting subtitles (audio and video too) and they can still be turned off. SubS
Let me know if I've missed anything or you know something I don't. I'm always looking to lear
I'm having problems playing MKV files, is there a way to fix that?
[DoctorM]
I've been bumping up against something lately and wanted to share my trouble shooting find
Since the last firmware update I've had a lot of MKV files that lock up, crash, reports as unplay
and other random things. The errors vary and I've found both the Sony Video App, VLC and Ko
A lot of times when I find a time point in a file that does it, I can reproduce it at that point rep
The X850C up until now has been agnostic and could play pretty much anything thrown at it.
THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE. If you set "--engage no_cue_duration --engage no_cue_relativ
Chances seem higher if you have embedded subtitles.
My TV won't respond to my Sony remotes at all - what can I do to get to the R
The Sony Sideview app (in Android and iOS app stores) can be used to control the TV even if y
the TV is connected your home network. You can download and setup the app on your phone
responding to your remote.
Download and install the app on your phone. When you launch the app the first time it will pro
connected to your network) and prompt if you want to enable remote start on the TV. You sho
you can always turn it off later on the TV if you want to (the TV uses more power in Standby m
After initial setup of the Sideview app is complete, select the remote control icon in the top-rig
w/signals coming out of the top of it) to access the Sideview app TV remote control functions.
Use the app's remote control functions to do what you need to do, including turning on the TV
Settings menu to select reboot or Factory Reset options.
- Reboot: Home>Settings>About>Restart
- Factory Reset: Home>Settings>Storage and Reset>Factory data reset
Turn that setting off, and that should take care of your problem.
After this, when you insert a USB drive on the TV you'll have to manually launch ES File Explor
This started happening after recent update of ES File Explorer (~Feb 2016)
Why do I hear a "pop" sound when I switch between the TV speakers and the
Known issue. [Alexh516] suggested: "Increase the A/V delay SLIGHTLY on your AV receiver an
[ggw2000] On my 75" that is hooked to my AVR via TV optical out when I switch from internal
one time snapping sound (sounds like a capacitor discharge). Is anyone that is using this setu
[Danabw] Confirmed - on optical as well, and hear the pop. However, opposite of what you ge
From audio system to TV speakers I get the pop. When I return from TV speakers back to audi
Why can't I adjust overscan settings on 2160p content input from my PC?
[Aaronwt]
With 2160P60 (e.g., UHD/4K) content you can't adjust the Display area setting, it defaults to +
they replied that this is the way it should be on 4k 2160p signals. And it also looks like everyt
(2160p input and can't adjust the TV setting) use the IGPU or dGPU scaler slider on the PC to
I have horizontal banding on my TV. Is there a way to fix that? (This is likely
[DoctorM]
OMG OMG OMG, stop the FAQ'ing presses! (See what I did there? I've got news for the FAQ an
Our current 75" has really awful banding. For privacy and I did a factory reset... and the bandi
So my first thought is the calibrated settings reset so maybe that's the problem. Adjusting th
is a really weird issue with the 'Clearness' setting. From here on in, everyone shoul
The pictures attached show all Clearness settings on a blank, no signal input. You can see the
backgrounds as well.
Notice how the vertical bands MOVE with each step? Yeah. Clearness generates artifacts. Ain'
In some cases when HDMI-CEC/Bravia Sync is enabled, users have reported that when a sourc
available from that source, and switch back to the TV speakers. When this happens Audio Sys
There is no known work-around for this itermittent issue, there is no setting to tell the TV to n
CEC/Bravia Sync system thinks they are needed. The only workaround would be to use optica
I'm having trouble getting ARC via HDMI working - any suggestions?
Err:509
Content I play from one of my HDMI inputs is very dull with grey blacks - wha
[Virtualrain]
Check the HDMI settings. There's a menu for HDMI settings off the Smart TV home screen tha
Limited (normal video levels), or auto. Set that to Limited or Auto with a typical BD player. On
Controling these settings is a bit odd. You have to select the input that you want to set first (e
Home screen and access the Settings menu: Home>Settings>Picture and Display>Dyna
Auto or Limited for any device except a PC type device that inputs content in the Full color
See more info on this in the Read This First tab in the HDMI section.
Why is the screen changing brightness when on-screen displays (e.g., volume
screen? How can I stop that?
[Pansar]
This is usually caused by the Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE) option in picture settings. Ac
settings>Brightness. Set to Off. Note: Turning off ACE can affect black levels, combined w
dark scenes. So it's a trade-off - accept the brightness changes, or give up some level of cont
w/subtitles you can change picture settings depending on whether you are viewing content w
While on the HDMI input or Android video app you are using, go Action menu>Pictu
and set Adv. Contrast Enhancer to Off. You'll need to do that for each HDMI input and its
HDMI1 for your DVR and Cinema Home for your BD on HDMI2, you'll need to turn off Adv. Con
How do I get sound from my headphone jack and TV speakers at the same tim
To enable sound from TV speakers and headphones at the same time (not available if you are
Menu path: Home>Settings>Sound>Headphone speaker link. Choices: Speakers on, Speaker
Audio Out/Headphone Jack and TV speakers at the same time. Requires that the TV's Speaker
How do I turn off beeping or actual "talking" by the TV when I do things like c
Home>Settings>Sound>System Sounds - Make sure that is off (Controls the "dings" and othe
When I press the Display button it says the resolution is something other tha
480i, etc. What do I need to do to get the TV to display 4K?
You don't need to do anything.
When you press the Display button (on the International version there is no "Display" button,
the TV isn't showing it's own display resolution, it is telling you the native resolution of the inp
something from your cable box that it outputs at 1080i, the Display command will show 1080
The TV always displays all content in UHD/4K. Since the TV is fixed resolution device everyth
and there is no setting you need to adjust. If your source content is less than 4K (e.g., 1080) t
displays it as-is.
On some screens/inputs the Display button does not work - no information will display. That i
Sometimes when I press the Display button it doesn't work, nothing happens
That is s known issue - for some sources/apps, the Display function does not work, and will no
resolution/properties.
My TV is makes crackling sounds when I turn it on and when I turn it off - is th
A few users have reported this issue, we don't have an "solution" and aren't really sure if one is neede
like this has mostly been reported by 55" owners.
[Dante1138] "The TV emits a very, VERY faint popping or crackling sound, especially after the first few
subsiding. When the set is off, you can also hear it for a few minutes. It is not a regular repetitive patt
described the sound is like the first few drops of rain on a window before the deluge. I should make cle
the internal or external speakers, and it is not associated with content playback. I noticed it initially w
inspection discovered that it was coming from the back of the set, inside the panel."
[Danabw] My previous TV, a DLP, would make these types of snap/crackle/pop sounds at start-up and
expanding and contracting of the TV during warm up and cool down, and never resulted in other issue
died. This seems like a similar issue. My 75" doesn't do this that I have noticed, and I have no idea if t
signifies an underlying problem or not with these sets.
After the last FW update (12/15) Jeff's Chroma 4:4:4 was totally broken acros
from my PC flickers from time to time. How did he fix It, you ask!?
[Jeff Chen]
Lemme share something that happened to my XBR55X850C after the firmware update last month PKG
Basically, Chroma 4:4:4 was totally broken across all resolutions, and the 4K@60Hz output from my PC
made sure all TV settings were correct, even switched HDMI cables, and still nothing. All I could think
Out of desperation I submitted my problem to Sony support, which got back to me with a formatted re
did not anticipate). Well I had to admit that that resetting thing never came into my mind before so I t
When I turn on the TV, a message appears: "Picture reset mode is on, you can
and my TV gets set to Vivid mode - how do I turn this off!?
You are in Demo mode.
To turn it off:
Home>Settings>System Preferences>Retail mode settings; select Turn Off [Demo mode]
First make sure your batteries are fresh, and inserted properly. If that doesn't help you probab
Go to:
[HOME] > [Settings] > [NETWORK & ACCESSORIES - TOUCHPAD REMOTE CONTROL SETTINGS
the on-screen instructions
Press the "Input" button on the lower-left corner of the back of the TV for five seconds and the
Pairing instructions for the Touchpad remote at the first link below. You can also use the pairin
1. Make sure that the batteries are properly inserted in the remote
2. Press and hold the INPUT button on the back lower left corner of the TV for at least 5 secon
that is displayed.
If you can't pair using the pairing screens you may need to initilize your Touchpad remote - se
How to pair my Touchpad remote with my Sony Andoid TV
How to initialize the Touchpad Remote Control.
Why do I have two versions of the Ultraflix app on my TV?
[bullywyf][aaronwt]
There are two versions of the Ultraflix app - one that Sony provides, and one in the Play store
is installed via SW updates that Sony provides), the Sony one shows in the Sony "Featured Ap
shows in the "Apps" row with YouTube, Plex, etc. Only differences I noticed: app icon, and also
the version of Sony app is 1.9.00G and the Google one is 1.9.00H.
The main difference I see is the TV app outputs Dolby Digital. While the Google play version o
The TV inteface is lagging, I'm getting blank screens, or things are just behav
to see if that helps. How do I reboot the TV? (The normal on/off w/the remote
The TV goes into standby mode when you press the power button on the remote, it does not a
interface slowing down or other strange behavior you may need to fully reboot the TV (much
Hold the Power button on the remote down until you see a message indicating the TV is going
rebooting when you see the spinning color dots (the start-up animation) and then the Android
TV simply stays off, hit the power button on the remote and it will start up the reboot process
Home>Settings>About>Restart
I'm streaming a show from Netflix that is supposed to be in 4K/UHD, but whe
input resolution is 1080p. Why aren't I getting 2160 (4K) input from Netflix?
1. Make sure you have upgraded your Netflix plan to include 4K/UHD. To stream Netflix in 4k,
you're still on their $8/month plan, this is why you're still only seeing 1080p. [blurredvision].
and didn't have to pay the additional monthly fee.)
2. Make sure the content you are viewing is really 4K/UHD - in some cases a series may includ
The first season of House of Cards isn't 4K. Only the second and third are. Try those and if tha
or Jessica Jones. [NotoriousNeo]
3. [Birkir Rafn Gujnsson] I discovered that the Netflix player doesn't go straight away to 216
720p for about 30 seconds, then switches to 1080p for a few seconds and then finally goes to
might be your problem. Also I think that if your connection does not handle to buffer at great
Why can't I get 4K/UHD content from Netflix or Amazon Instant Video on my P
Netflix doesn't support streaming 4K content from their website via PC to a TV.
[Z1-B] No 4K Netflix outside of the embedded streaming Netflix app on a 4K HEVC compliant
,etc. i.e. no Netflix 4K on a P.C. probably the same for other 4K HDCP content (e.g., Amazon In
My TV Picture mode has gotten stuck in HDR mode - how can I fix that?
[Bullwyf]
Happened to me and there is a simple fix: Play another HDR video on Amazon, then stop play
If that doesn't work, another user resolved it via factory reset, but you shouldn't need to do th
Why does my attached hard drive/USB thumb drive/bias lighting plugged into
is turned off? How much power does the TV use when in standby mode (shor
The Sony spec claims .5W/hour, however, users have found that devices plugged into the TVs
the TV may draw as much as 20w/hour when it is in standby mode. The likely reasons for the
Sony does say in the Setting menu that enabling remote start will increase power usage.
Overall, settings that may increase standby power usage inlude enabling the following option
- Download software updates in the background
- Update apps in the background
- Remote Start enabled
I have a bias lighting strip on the back of my TV plugged into one of the TV's
on and off on their own, when the TV is turned off. How can I keep the bias lig
The TVs normal mode when you hit the power button on the remote is to go into "sleep" simil
turns off, etc., but activities are still happening in the background (looking for app or system u
processes appear to include (intentionally or otherwise) waking up the USB ports, which then
powered bias lighting.
One way to solve the problem by using a "Smart" power strip like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012MX9YJ0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpa
NOTE: You can't plug the TV into the primary plug on the smart power strip to manage the bia
status will make the smart power strip think the TV is always on, so the bias lighting never tu
component that you always turn on when you're watching TV. I connected my receiver to the
connector) - then the bias lighting only turns on when the receiver is on, which is always on w
Of course you can also set up the bias lights power on an RF remote controlled power switch
(which most likely uses IR controller), or integrate that into your system if you're using an RF
And there are powerstrips out there that turn completely off (our local power company had a
requested it, I have that on our TV in the office). Mine is set up to turn all power off to the pow
completely off. That would mean a full boot-up of the Android system every time you watched
think it hurts anything to have the bias lighting coming on and off, it just bothered me.
For more info on bias lighting (what it is, bias lighting kits available) see the Other Useful Post
After connecting an Nvidia Shield I now have duplicate entries for the "inputs
[luisrcastillo]
I have the Shield and have the same behavior. I belive there's an option in the external inputs area wh
probably select the input the Shield is connected to, hide it, and the only the CEC input for the shield
Whenever I try to install or update an app from the Google Play store it says
moving but it never downloads or installs. I can't download new apps or upda
As always, first try rebooting the TV. Long press on Power button on remote. If that does
An app isn't working right - it keeps freezing up, or doesn't function properly
If you have recurring problems with an app and others aren't reporting similar issues, you ma
Reboot the TV: Long press on Power button on remote until the TV reboots.
If above doesn't help, and others aren't reporting a similar issue and a solution, you may need
Nuclear Option if other minor interventions they can think of don't work - a factory data reset
over at initial TV setup). Any SW updates that have been applied are retained, just added dat
on a Factory data reset.
Why should I be cautious about using the "Streaming Channels" app?
[Tron49][Aaronwt]
[Tron49] This morning however things went a little south. I noticed a new icon called "Streami
short... once in this mode I couldn't get out. The "Streaming Channels" took me into the Pluto
app before and backing out of the app. using the "BACK" button would always get me to a dia
was in mother Russia
Now the only way was to reboot (took over a minute). After restarting I immediately went to t
within the app.
[Aaronwt] Streaming channels is not new. I've been seeing that option for weeks now. I've onl
selected it since.
Why do Android apps on my Home screen launch and start trying to do things
from the TV Home screen to another activity (e.g., watch a DVD or my cable b
For some unknown reason, if the TV is on the Home screen and the Harmony remote sends an
startup, the TV will misinterpret the TV input selection command and launch whatever app or
This only happens when the TV input command is assigned in the Harmony Activity setup (se
if you just send an individual discrete TV input selection command to the TV from your Harmo
only when those TV input commands are part of the automatically configured Activity startup
The fix is to 1) Change the X850C TV input selection setting "I do not set an input"
then 2) Use the Customize Activity flow in the Harmony app to add a separate TV in
initial startup commands, to set the desired TV input for that activity. See screens
The reason it takes two steps is that the Customize Activity flow in the Logitech app doesn't a
automatically. So unless other versions of the Logitech SW allow that, you always have to first
each activity, and then manually add the TV input command to each activity using the Custom
IMPORTANT NOTE: The Logitech SW blocks access to any command that starts with "Input"
Activity screen. So to be able to add the TV's discrete input commands to activities, you'll nee
discrete codes added to it in order to teach the discrete input codes you need to your first Ha
don't name them "input-xxx." Name them so they aren't hidden. I used "nput HDMI
If you don't have a second Harmony/learning remote you could borrow one or purchase an ine
Teach the discrete input commands you need to it from your Harmony remote, and then use i
w/the new names so they won't be masked in the Command selection drop-down in the Custo
How do I restart the TV (completely reboot it, not just the normal on/off w/the
The TV normall goes into standby when you press the power button on the remote. If you are
strange behavior you may need to reboot the TV (much like you'd reboot a computer). To res
In some cases you may want to do a factory reset of your TV to clear up problems that may b
resolve via other troubleshooting. Always try to resolve issues first by doing a restart (above)
then plugging it back in again and other troubleshooting.
NOTE: If you have problems getting your Touchpad remote to connect to the TV aft
1. Make sure that the batteries are properly inserted.
2. Press and hold the INPUT button on the back lower left corner of the TV for at least 5 secon
that is displayed.
NOTE: If the remote is still not working after the steps above, see the link below - you may ha
I can't use the Touchpad remote after a Factory data reset or after rem
How to initialize the Touchpad Remote Control.
How do I check my current TV and Android software versions?
The TV has two types of software on it:
1. The TV software
2. The Android software
There is only one Software update option on the TV, and it is used to update both of the softw
software).
You shouldn't have to look for a software update, as the TV is set up to automatically check fo
when one is ready and you are in SmartTV mode. If you'd like to check for a software update:
You can also get to the same System Software Update option via the Android Settings menu:
FIXED in 12/15 Firmware Update! These issues have been resolved and no lo
Search on the Home screen should show two icons, one for voice and one for keybo
The Settings/Home Screen should have a sub menu called Apps and Games.
2. The Video app on the TV stretches all content to 16:9/full screen. So content tha
or old 4:3 TV/movie content will be strecthed to fill the screen. Other video apps (e
Kodi) are not affected.
Picture showing example of clouding --------------------------------------------------------------
Clouding may really be due to off-angle viewing: [Mikey Emilio Di Pardo]So I thought m
corners but it turns out it's not clouding it's the postion of tv. I lowered mount now I have perfect unifo
that bad that you have to be dead on center ? No variation even 10 degrees up/down/left or right ? Or
away so I'm to close ?
[billdag]
Yes, I can confirm that the 65-850C is very sensitive to vertical and horizontal angle of view. Even mor
Sharp or my 65" 8550 Samsung. I've considered that a few people may be mistaking clouding or light
is actually just an excessive angle of view.
So, if you're one of those people who wants to mount the set over the fireplace, you better make sure
tilt sufficiently or you're not gonna be very happy!!
Use caution w/the wipe technique - one user didn't have good results: From Snorge: Well I c
tried it myself. I don't know how but the I completely screwed up the uniformity of the whole screen. I
the 2 or 3 inches on the right side where my bleed/cloud was. After doing so on a dark screen there w
areas at the top and center of the screen where it was perfect before D: The area I rubbed didn't impr
If you were going to return your TV anyway this is certainly worth a try.
What is Bias Lighting and why would I want it?
More on using ARC over HDMI, and more Amazon app 5.1 support info
The simplest way is to connect an HDMI cable from HDMI4 on the TV to the ARC HDMI
or to your soundbar's HDMI connection. All inputs from an AVR to the TV can go over tha
Return Channel on the TV uses HDMI4 to send sound from the TV to the AVR or to the soundb
NOTE: When using ARC you may need to completely reboot or power off both the tv
having issues. First try rebooting them (long press on Power button on TV to reboo
off/on). If that doesn't work, completely unplug the TV and receiver, wait 30 second
sometimes there's weirdness with HDMI.
The Amazon app is supposed to support 5.1 - from Amazon's "Supported Devices" p
Sony
Full HD, 4K Ultra HD & Android TV models
Streaming Video Quality: SD, HD, UHD for compatible Ultra HD TVs (2014 or newer
Triluminos 4K TVs (x850c, x900c, x910c, x930c, and x940c)
Download Videos: No
Purchase Videos: Yes
Parental Controls: Yes
Closed Captions: Yes, on 2013/2014 or newer models
Watchlist: Yes
Auto Play: Yes
5.1 Audio: Yes
HDMI connector: Cut or bend Pin 13 to disable CEC for devices that are
Reminder - "HD" and other high-end formats are NOT supported for pa
app/configuration.
[bp787] DTS-HD and TrueHD WILL NOT pass through no matter what. Neither ARC nor Optical
formats. I'd expect the same for Atmos as well.
If you want those formats, your bluray/video source or whatever must be connected directly t
passthrough the tv at all.
From the Plex home page goto Settings>Advanced: Direct play=Disabled, Direct stream= Off
All other settings and connections remain as outlined earlier in this thread. You will now have
3 codec.
There is 1 condtion. Your server/CPU needs to be powerfull enough to handle it. How do you k
videos play as they always have, you're good to go. If not, change it back to the settings I spe
Good luck.
Good things to check if you have strange app behavior.
[400MHz Man]
Couple of things:
-When you set up your TV did you log into your Google Account and accept both the terms of service f
necessary to make sure you are able to get the latest SW update for the TV as well as the app update
In the US the current SW version is 3.043
-Did you launch the Google Play Store and select "Accept" the first time?
-Go to the My Apps section of the play store and see if you have any apps pending update. If so you c
-In the settings for the Google Play Store you should also make sure Auto-update apps is on. This will a
However if an app needs a new permission you will need to manually update it by going to the google
Apps section...
If all this is done and you are still having issue with the app you can go through the process of a force
app. You would do this by going to Home>Settings>Apps then highlight the app and do a force close a
then you should be able to launch and login again.
"Normal" setup for an activity - specify the input you want the TV on when creating
case the desired input was HDMI3. See next image--->>
Alternative factory data reset method via Sony remote
This is probably actually harder than using the TV Settings option, but if you're having problems using
left, you can try this.
1. Press Help button 5 times (slowly). TV will be in the Contact & Support page. If not press the Help b
the Contact & Support page.
2. Press these buttons in following order (fast): RED, 4, 3, 5, 7, PLAY
3. The TV will be rebooted and [Factory data reset] is performed automatically.
4. After the setup, go ahead and update the PlayStore apps.
This is the updated Settings screen
Set brightness at a minimal acceptable level.
- Use the light sensor if you watch in both bright and dark ambient conditions.
- Use dynamic contrast enhancer on High or Medium to enable frame dimming on black scenes/fields
I use the last one. It allows me to run brightness at 35 in a dark room and not notice any clouding on b
Screen below shows Customize Activity screen w/command dropdown open - note that all
(e.g., Input HDMI1, Input HDMI2) are hidden. Any command that starts with "input" is hidd
These steps are confirmed to work w/remotes that use the Logitech SW below. Similar step
their software.
This screen shows the new discrete input commands that have been taught to the remote
doesn't have discrete input buttons). When you teach the input commands, name them so
Other useful posts & info
1. $89 for four years coverage (TV not purchased from Costco)
or five years coverage (TV purchased from Costco).
Daniel Tonks post on Bias lighting - what it is, and why you
want/need it.
If you haven't seen it from the first tab, also see the Bias
Lighting article on this site:
http://www.howtogeek.com/213464/how-to-decrease-eye-
fatigue-while-watching-tv-and-gaming-with-bias-lighting/
Backlight for TV Normal Bright Cool White Medium Kit: Recommended for Flat
Sewell Direct SW-30623 Light Frame 78 LED USB Powered Bias Lighting for HD
Other Stuff
FlatPanel.com calibration tips - their recommended settings are
in the Picture Settings tab, but more info here.
CNet calibration FAQ - get your expert on.
Asenna32's post on SquareTrade warranty from Costco (Text
below) - details on the warranty.
Just keep in mind this is for manufacturer's defects not any kind of damage caused by
external forces. As for being covered even for TVs not purchased through Costco, it states
right on the description page that you are covered for 4 years for TVs not purchased from
Costco (1yr manufacturer + 3yrs SquareTrade), but you get an extra year if you bought the
TV from Costco. Hope this helps any confusion as this is a great deal for those that want
some extra protection against component failure.
5 Years Total Protection for your TV purchased at a Costco warehouse or from Costco.com.
The first 2 years of warranty are covered by Costco or the manufacturer. The 3rd through
the 5th years are covered by SquareTrade.
4 Years Total Protection for your TV purchased at any other authorized US retailer. The first
year of warranty is covered by the manufacturer. The 2nd through the 4th years are
covered by SquareTrade".
[Dick Fingers] I do not have a Costco membership, but was able to purchase the warranty
directly from their website. They charge you an extra 5%, but in this case it's not a big dea
all. Just make sure to register your warranty with Squaretrade.
[Asenna32] Just keep in mind this is for manufacturer's defects not any kind of damage cau
by external forces. It states right on the description page that you are covered for 4 years f
TVs not purchased from Costco (1yr manufacturer + 3yrs SquareTrade)...you get an extra y
if you bought the TV from Costco.
4 Years Total Protection for your TV purchased at any other authorized US retailer. The first year o
warranty is covered by the manufacturer. The 2nd through the 4th years are covered by
SquareTrade".
5 Years Total Protection for your TV purchased at a Costco warehouse or from Costco.com. The fir
years of warranty are covered by Costco or the manufacturer. The 3rd through the 5th years are
covered by SquareTrade.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1530461-official-2014-sony-xbr-49x850
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1530461-official-2014-sony-xbr-49x850
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1530461-official-2014-sony-xbr-49x850
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1530461-official-2014-sony-xbr-49x850
Nice kit, simple to set up, probably better size for 55" or 65" for a single row across the back. Stay
attached welll to the TV, and has an on/off switch on it.
[Danabw] Just a couple bucks more than the Antec, adhesive appears to be strong enough to hold
well, provides sufficient length to "box" the full perimeter of any set up to the 75", and has full colo
control, can be set to flash/fade for fun or when playing music.
I had to return this due to a fluke - my receivers vol up/vol dwn IR commands were evidently th
same as two commands on this kit, so every time I changed my receiver volume the color would
change. :) If not for that I would have kept this set - really nice.
[Cchen326]
I read the bias lighting section and gave it a shot by ordering a $60 set from amazon. Whe
have it on the clouding and light bleed cannot be seen. I guess the added brightness behin
the screen hides these defects fairly well so if anyone was considering getting bias lighting
be aware this can also hide some of the slight defects you might have on the screen as an
added bonus.
[YOTR]
I ordered a pair of ideal lume panel lights from cinemaquest and should have them today.
[Danabw]Nice lights, but issues w/the adhesive - likely won't stay attached to the TV. A good lengt
65" and 75" sets, but poor adhesive kind of complicates things. Requires tape or other additional
support to keep attached to back of the TV. Other than that, very nice, longer/brighter than the An
works for one row across back of 75" model.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015JV9QJK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailp
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1291368716
http://www.cnet.com/news/picture-settings-and-calibration-faq-ask-the-editors/
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/2089834-official-2015-sony-xbr-75x850
test
This is bp787's Blue Edge Bleed spreadsheet, copied here for convenien
You can check his dropbox link for updates and additions --->
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This spreadsheet is to provide a place to store links to test files/clips and test results
Clips are .mp4 from mostly 1080P bluray content.
NOTE to additional users of this sheet, please feel free to add a sheet, copying Sheet #2 template to
Result photos are to be shown in different picture modes: Vivid, Cinema Home, and Cinema Pro. All current clips are shown w
NOTE: Cell phone video/pictures tend to exaggerate the blue-ish blooming issue.
Everything shown here are links to content from dropbox, etc...
BlackHat https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/TestVideos/BlackHat_335
Interstellar https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/TestVideos/Interstellear_2
ng Sheet #2 template to a new sheet and link your results or clips. Please do not edit this first sheet.
All current clips are shown with FACTORY default mode settings.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/AfterEarth_Sony_Vivid.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/AfterEarth_Sony_CinemaHome.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/BlackHat_Sony_Vivid.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/BlackHat_Sony_CinemaHome.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/Black
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/Interstellar.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/2015-10-16%2016.37.14.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/2015-10-16%2016.35.51.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/2015-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/
7515347/20151016_164347.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/FifthElement_Sony_vivid.jpg
Result Thoughts
Others
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/AfterEarth_Sony_Vivid_.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/AfterEarth_Sony_%20%282%29.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/Interstellar_Sony_.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/Interstellar%20%282%29.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7515347/20151016_163817.jpg
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