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>>41544029
>>41549387 (OP)
>he thinks losing weight slowly
prevents loose skin
>> Anonymous 05/23/17(Tue)20:13:57 No.41549440 >>41549456 >>41549496 >>41550057 >>41550195 >>41552033 >>41553675
Do I NEED to be in keto to lose weight, or can I just adjust my meals to limit carbs under 50g?
I don't really feel like dealing with keto flu and shit, can I just cut carbs? I've calculated it out and below even
30g has been fine so far
>>41549440
Carbs are mostly empty in terms of nutritional value. They're there for energy, and you don't really need it
since you have fat stores.
>> Anonymous 05/23/17(Tue)20:16:37 No.41549460 >>41549485 >>41549595 >>41549720 >>41550067 >>41550420 >>41551927
Guys remember you NEED to lift or you'll just end up as skinnyfat when you reach your goalweight.
>>41549460
better than fatfat
While I generally sketch my meals out in advance, I typically shift around what I end up eating depending on
preference at the time. I'm doing okay but I'm sitting on a plateau, and I don't know if it's because of
fuckarounditis, or just a plateau that I have to power through even if I'm tracking everything correctly. So
tonight I've planned out everything I want to eat tomorrow, down to the last calorie, and logged it ahead of
time. I'm hoping this will keep my discipline up and not let hunger influence my decisions.
>>41549440
>Do I NEED to be in keto to lose weight
Fuck no. But cut carbs to whatever is a manageable level for you, because they do fuck all for satiation and
are easy to overeat because of that. Protein, fat, and veggies will keep you full. Eat a little bit of carbs,
enough that you aren't craving them or getting keto flu. Low-carbohydrate diets are nebulously defined, but
20g-60g is the criterion used by the American Academy of Family Physicians.
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>>41549460
Lifitng while on a deficit is way harder than lifting while at surplus, or even maintenance. it takes so much longer
to recover, especially if you're restricting carbs.
I would recommend cardio for the health benefits, and lifting obviously is fantastic, but it's made even harder at a
deficit.
whenever there's free donuts at work, I still usually get one to not look like an asshole, then when everybody
is not looking i just flush it in the toilet. fuck u gain goblins
I'm going to change to maintenance eating and lift 5 times a week up from 3, with 1 day of cardio. Will this
work for evening out?
Not gonna make it by start of june like i'd hoped, but oh well
>>41549460
Isn't cardio just going to negate your muscle gains?
Do you guys keep notes on what you eat or do you punch it into a
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>>41549798
Mix of the two. I'll often make big batches of things and just write down the weights of the ingredients and do
the calcs later. When I eat out I always add it to an app immediately with a 20 percent variance. If there is no
nutrition info i wont eat there or ill just eat the healthiest sounding item there and assume its all my calories for
the day.
>>41549387 (OP)
keto and fasting
only answer
bye
>> Anonymous 05/23/17(Tue)21:22:59 No.41550000 >>41550024 >>41550051 >>41550094 >>41550211 >>41550988 >>41551795
>>41549981
23:1 IF+keto master race here
>>41550000
checked
genuinely mad
>>41550000
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honest question to all fat people ITT, what are your shits like?
im an emaciated twig and whenever i try to eat more stuff to get some calories, usually smoothies with oats,
milk, yogurt, peanut buttter, etc, it makes my shits loose even thoguh they have a decent amount of fiber in
them, and eating this as oatmeal didn't cause this problem. like, loose as in i have to wipe a ton to get it clean
and even have to go back later for rewipes
i ask you guys because i know a lot of you have eaten diets with shitty food (fast food, sweets, etc that i
never eat) and wonder if your shits were bad too
>>41550000
>>41550053
used to be 220 lb and i used to eat fast food on a regular basis, my shits were tougher a
bit hard to push, at some point i used to get small pieces of shit stuck inside my anus
unable to push them out. Unlike now where they just come out easy and the overall
experience is pleasant. I'm not discouraged by shitting anymore
>>41550136
Shitting is nice. I wish I could shit more often.
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fat fucks
How much weight lost is too much weight? I'm losing about .7-.8lb a day not really doing
anything major besides 2000kcal CICO+IF+keto and walking 10 miles, at about 20
pounds lost in the past 4 weeks
>>41550357
how big are you? if you're morbidly obese or close to it, you shouldn't be doing any real damage to yourself for
now but you also shouldn't try to maintain this pace indefinitely.
try to roughly halve that rate of loss once you're below 30% if male, and half that again once you drop below
15%. when you're in a healthy bf% range, losing 1-2lbs a week is about the max you can expect to lose
without losing muscle and strength
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>>41550357
That is an insane rate of weight loss. Talk to a doctor or nutritionist immediately.
How much do you weigh anon are you in the 400lb+ range? I don't even know how that's possible, maybe you
have a parasite or something
>>41550382
I feel pretty decently great, and I'm making strength gains, able to actually do pullups and starting to be able
to hit 35lb hammer curls, I'm going to cut the amount of cardio I'm doing though, fitbit is claiming that I'm
burning 3400-4000 average with all the walking
lol fatties
>>41549460
Fatties please, the idea you can't build muscle on a cut in misinformed. Your noob gains come quick and
despite being on a permacut my lifts slowly went up. This will also help loads when you're no longer cutting.
I went from 310lbs to 210lbs bodyweight
Bench: 250lb x 6
Deadlift: 365lb x 6
Squat: 295lbs x 6
OHP: 155 x 6
let my sodium intake slip this past week and am now retaining a fuckload of water. any ways to flush it out
besides just drinking water?
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That being said congrats on the progress you have already made. If you're a real big dude and people haven't
noticed yet, they will pretty soon.
>>41550480
fucking delicious I look forward to it every morning, even after eating it every day for a year
>>41550685
I like fiber cereal+almond milk+1 scoop whey
This is it man. Long-story short; I recently realized I was an alcoholic and it's ruining my
life.
I used to be super /fit/ and happy, but then some shit happened and it got me into daily drinking of 9-12 beers
while playing LoL, every single evening. I thought for so long it was perfectly fine because I have a decent job
and drinking beers with video games was a perfectly normal way to relax after work.
Yet it's literally all I do... I slowly became an hermit and haven't had sex in a year
So today I'm going to bed sober. Tomorrow I'm going back to the gym, and then I'll track my progress with a
picture and weight every 10 days
>>41550795
Please, I would like to know more.
What was your daily calorie goal?
Cardio, lifting, days of week?
>>41549387 (OP)
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>>41550802
I kept my calorie goal at 1600-1700, logging in mfp helped alot.
At first i didnt do any cardio or lifting because i was more focused on sticking to the diet. After about two
months i went down to 237, which was when i started doing cardio 3 times a week for 30 minutes just running
on the treadmill. I started getting into martial arts too 3 times a week so i started losing a bit more. 2 months
after that and i got down to 225.
After that idk what happened but i completely changed the way i did everything. I changed the way i ate.
(Baked chicken with brocolli and sometimes Poke for lunch) and i started running every morning, working my
way up to running 3 miles nonstop and i do martial arts and strength conditioning 4 times a week. I've been
doing that for 6 months and i went from 225 to 175, with some muscle so i dont look like flabby. It's been a
long journey, 10 months in total, started from august.
I'm eating an English muffin as part of breakfast and I need to cut carbs.
Got any good low carb breakfast ideas that aren't just eggs/omelets?
>>41550857
Thank you for your story. Certainly life style changes are important. 1600 to 1700 seems low for all that
activity. I'm doing 1800 right now.
>ate 6 home-made donuts, 1 small vanilla ice cream cone, 4 knackwurst on buns and a
single serving of chips
>blood sugar have dipped below 70 and climbed above 150
>probably still under my TDEE
This new medication is fucking awful.
How many calories would you guys say are in buffalo wings from the local pizza place? I usually get them dry
and use Frank's Red Hot instead of their sauce. When I log into MFP, there are a ton of options ranging from
like 50 calories each to 200 calories each.
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>>41550912
But... You know you aren't done, right? Don't stop just because you made your goal. You've got to remember
the lessons you've learned.
>>41550943
learned so much about nutrition during the journey, senpai. with that said, I am pretty much confident I'll go
back to my old flabby self
>>41550053
I eat lots of veg and cabbage
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>>41550352
sup
FUCK
DAMMIT
FUCK
>>41551134
squeeze in some veggies for your weeb snacking! I enjoy nibbling on kimchi or dipping veggies in sweet chili
sauce(this is probably weird, but you can do ranch or w/e)
Fug I don't know how people skip breakfast. I usually eat 900 calories before work and then skip lunch
instead.
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>>41551134
>95g of protein
>>41551257
how did you miss it?
it's at the top of the page with a running raptor right next to it
>>41551283
I implied I already started my diet.
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>>41551306
Then decrease your caloric intake.
What do you consider exercise? can you walk? walking is actually very good exercise.
>>41551186
assuming he is 250-300, he needs 0.5g protein per pound. so he should be eating 125g-150g a day.
>>41551314
My bones are genetically very fragile. If I run for one minute, my right knee starts hurting (I damaged it a long
time ago because I wasn't aware of my poor genetics yet). Standing and walking normally is alright, but after
standing up all day, I start feeling light pain in my knee in the afternoon and it gets worse if I don't take a rest
for one day. So I can't even take a walk for a couple of hours.
>>41551348
is it osteoporosis?
Did anyone else just "calories in/calories out" their way to weightloss?
Seriously I hit up a dietician, swapped out my regular meals for healthier options (nothing crazy, just stopped
my lazy "pasta & microwave" diet and started eating rice/oats/fruit smoothies/etc), still allowed myself to eat
crap food once or twice a week when I was out and about and nothing healthy was around.
Dropped 20kg over a year or so. Started running, did 20 or 30 minutes a day on the treadmill while watching
TV shows, and within 6 months I'd lost the last 10kg. Now I'm down to a 22 BMI (from 29.5). Still in skinnyfat
mode, but gym is obviously the next step.
I guess what I'm saying is that I see people with all these intricate diet plans, calculating calories for each
little thing they put in their mouth, worrying about staying in keto or what the fuck ever, and it seems like they
just overwhelm themselves and crash out every time.
Not /fat/ related but I can manage to lift 30kg with no problems today, before I could barely balance a 10kg
barbell.
>>41549387 (OP)
Lost 50kg and gained some muscles, feels nice and I get a lot more attention but I still have loose skin on my
belly and ass and some stretch marks, what do?
>>41550793
You eat like a fucking child.
>>41551408
Surgery is your only option sadly. If you live in a first world country that has socialized Healthcare you can get
that surgery for free because lose skin can cause infections.
>>41551385
Fortunately it isn't, my bones are just weak. I can't even last on a supposedly low impact elliptical trainer.
I started a diet two weeks ago and I try to be very careful about eating proper nutrients but I still haven't seen
any results, I'm worrying about whether or not I can really lose weight. According to sites, I burn more than
1500 calories a day even if I spend the entire day sitting, but I'm under the impression I only burn 750
calories. I mean, I mostly stay completely still all day long.
I know spot fat losing is a myth but how can I get slimmer legs, thighs and calves?
>>41550793
what the fucc
>>41551452
>According to sites, I burn more than 1500 calories a day even if I spend the entire day sitting, but I'm under
the impression I only burn 750 calories
are you a woman? this post reeks of the "feelings over facts" mindset that female fit users often post with
>>41551467
No, it's actually the opposite? I'm asking others questions since I don't see any results and talking with others
can help, I think it's normal not to immediately trust sites just because they give off the feeling they are right?
>>41551496
Did you ever stop and think you're not counting calories correctly? Because most the time that's the real
issue.
However you do live a truly sedentary lifestyle, so your TDEE will be low. Can't you just wiggle around in place
or something?
>>41551496
you absolutely can lose weight with no physical activity, but couldn't you swim? that's essentially zero impact
>>41551550
Swimming would probably be worse since I would have to use my whole body's joints. I don't think I would
have enough stamina anyway.
>>41551548
I make sure to absorb the proper amount of calories and the proper nutrients.
>Can't you just wiggle around in place or something
I thought about it kek, I actually tried that since it sounds easy but it turns out it's ten times harder than
refraining from overeating, just give a try.
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Do you know of a physically demanding activity that minimizes as much as possible the use of joints?
>>41551688
Swimming but in shallow water. Will allow you to move with very low impact. Are you wheelchair bound?
If you can walk you can slowly waddle in water. There is much less weight/strain on your joints underwater.
You can wiggle there for a long time.
>>41550420
This.
I went on a suicide cut (187 lbs. in less than a year) and kept/built muscle.
>>41550000
>23:1 IF+keto
I know what keto is but what did he mean with the rest?
Anyone else doing the Warrior Diet? Just eat once a day and maybe something under
100 calories in the middle if you're gay. Also avoid processed foods but that's a no
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brainier for any diet that isn't a teenager IIFYM meme. It's nice to only have to look at
food once a day.
>>41549460
Lifting is useless if you aren't eating enough protein.
With that being said, it's not that hard to get 100g of protein on a cut.
>>41551927
Yeah you really only need 100-150 and that's easy if you have one chicken breast a day. 1g per lb of lean
mass is enough.
>>41551994
I just go by BW in kg*1.5 desu.
>>41552003
That's good too but for super fat fucks it gets too high.
>>41549440
What do you think happens when you cut with a relatively high carb intake? Your body
says "nope too much carbs I'm not gonna burn fat to make up the deficit"?
Stop listening to retard memers who read a couple of livestrong articles and think they
know about nutrition like >>41549456 >>41549496
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You need to cut calories, this is easiest to attain with minimal loss of food volume by limiting fats.
>eat some slices of cheese (overshooting for 200g and 800kcal) and 2 slices of jamon (100kcal overshoot) as
only meal because lmaosleptin
>>41552152
similar
>wake up
>11am
>shit too late from breakfast, I'll wait until dinner
>play vidya
>2pm
>shit, missed dinner, might as well wait until tea time
>go for a run
>more vidya
>8pm
>shit, better eat something
>chicken sandwich and a miniroll
>internet until 2am
>go to bed
>repeat
>>41552212
>neets
I've been eating 1200cals for a long while now. But in the last few weeks my appetite has declined and it's
being hard to reach 1200cal a day. I usually stay around 1000. Am I going to die? I take vitamines and don't
feel sick so far but how real is it that you need to eat over 1200 or horrible things Will happen? I am a small
girl if it matters.
>>41552467
>1000kcal
>small girl
nothing unique there. Im a big guy (for you) and I eat around 1000kcal now and then
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>>41552467
not eaten over 1k in a day for over 6 months
I'm fine
>you're not counting properly
if anything I'm overestimating
>>41552467
1000 for a small girl is normal on a cut.
>>41552467
>/fat/
>small girl
>>41549387 (OP)
Diet soda, good or bad?
>>41552672
Are you retarded?
>>41552672
no/very low calories? you can sip that a little bit but it destroys your teeth
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>>41549434
Depends on the person.
>>41552731
Yeah it depends on how fucking fat they got.
>>41549387 (OP)
Only psychotics and homo faggots drink coffee black. Are you both of those things? probably.
>>41552785
That too, but it also depends on their height, age and genes. A young person is much more likely to recover
than an old fuck.
I literally don't give a shit about if i'm skeleton mode after i make it, I want to be skinny not a fatso. Anyone
else?
Obviously a 300lb 5'8 man is going to be way worse off than a 6'4 300lb man. Genes or not.
Help me /fat/, I'm about to go the gym in an hour and I have the unresistable urge to FAP
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>>41552851
>> Anonymous 05/24/17(Wed)06:08:57 No.41552885 >>41552893 >>41552897 >>41552909 >>41552911 >>41552999 >>41553543
File: 1425866553227.png (290 KB, 680x680)
SO BAD
I havent been eating any junk food (mcdonalds/pizza/kebab) etc for 6 months.
>Reach obesity
>Research and find out about candida, fungus, nutrition and general health
>My mind just clicks and I get this unnatural invincible motivation
Knowledge is power, anons. It really, really is. Once I learned about what my body does with those nutrients I
started seeing fast food and sweets as literal waste / poison. Forget about motivation or self-help, all you need
is to be informed and for your mind to go *click*. Dieting is no longer something I do for 2 months, this is a
lifestyle. I'm on week 2, feeling a snowball effect of health and weight loss. It's so fucking easy
>>41552890
>I'm on week 2
Wow it's fucking nothing
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>>41552885
That is your intestinal fungus craving for some cheat carbs or some sugars, it's like a parasite is trying to get
you to cheat. You don't need it, you know you don't. Don't be mind controlled by your intestines and your gut
flora. Be controlled by your vision of who you want to be. One cheat day is OK... Yeah, but so is NO cheat
day at all. That's even more OK.
You should be doing that at least once a week anyway. You ARE doing that, right?
>>41552909
>Mind controlling bacteria
bro science
>>41552906
Yeah. I realise words have no value, actions do. For the first time in my life I feel like I actually want to live
like this. What's a good measure of time to set as a milestone?
Honestly yes, it's bro science. But it does fit the description. You don't need a cheat day, it's your body being
used to the carbs that's asking you for more. That's my opinion anyway
>>41552033
partial credit anon
yes calories need to be cut
but you have to increase your
memes
only then can true happiness begin
>>41552689
no , you
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>>41552885
Bro you just gotta eat raw vegetables until you forget what chocolate tastes like. Soon you'll think cucumbers
and brie is the most delicious snack.
Are fitness instructors a meme? I'm thinking about going to sign up at a gym and get one.
>>41552937
>there are people who believe this is healthy food
>>41553090
it is
>>41553095
Even apples with peanut butter is healthier than that steak tips monstrosity
Bro tier is when you eat raw garlic and kale without batting an eye
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had a relapse last night. Need to figure out how to fucking snuff this shit out.
>>41553154
if you're hungry, eat
>>41553242
fuck that bullshit, I'm on a deficit. If I'm hungry and I'm at my goal, it needs to be snuffed out. No one made it
to something difficult without willpower.
>>41551336
thats not how it works at all. its .8 to 1 g of protein per lb of lean muscle. He isnt 125 lbs of lean muscle.
>>41553253
Yes, but lean mass is more difficult to know offhand. Typically it almost always falls under 100-175g of
protein.
Also it's lean mass, not just muscle mass. Anything that isn't fat.
>>41553247
you're getting hungry after you've already eaten a days worth of calories?
so it's a night time thing?
just leave a cushion of a couple hundred kcal spare in case you need it
>>41553296
my daily limit is 1450. I don't really have a lot of wiggle room.
>>41551740
>187 in less than a year
Holy fuck anon how ?
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What's your maintenance and how many calories do you eat per day?
>>41549720
If you're on a cut you won't be making muscle gains anyways. Cardio also doesn't burn as much calories as
you think.
>>41553276
at 300lbs of fat he is probably 125 lbs of lean muscle. he doenst need as high as 175g of protein, for a very
long time.
>>41553362
>If you're on a cut you won't be making muscle gains anyways
False.
>>41553392
just an idea, but tell him why he's wrong and he might actually take you seriously
am I losing too much weight? I feel pretty great, lots of energy especially when I go for
walks, walking about 7-9 miles a day with bodyweight/dumbell training every other day,
because of this fitbit is saying I'm burning up to 3500-4000 a day on a cutting RDI of
2000. Should I up my calorie intake or should I continue as is?
I don't feel that walking this much with weight training is high intensity is harsh or unpleasant at all and losing
about 5 pounds a week while gaining just a little bit of strength is a sweet bonus for me.
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>>41553406
>tell him why he's wrong
>>41553416
Wow you managed to cram almost every dietary meme into your eating patterns, add IIFYM paleo PSMF in
there and you got a complete package.
>>41550420
Are you still around, liftinganon? Would love to know your program.
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2000
1400
5'9
>doing lunges
>about tp fall over everytime im at the lowest point
of the lunge
What the fuck why is my balance so shit?
>>41553113
those were ribs , very tasty and filling
I didn't finish the side dish
slightly constipated this morn and weight went up ,
prob just water weight
as they were salty as fugg
>>
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>>41553537
It's kind of hard to post. It's a bro split that has testing weeks and deload weeks in the routine. Few weeks at
8 reps, 6 reps, then 4 reps. It's Alan Thrall's Beginning program if you're interested. 4x a week required and
you can't miss days.
1000-1800
>>41553448
the more memes the
better the progress
>>41553644
>Alan Thrall's Beginning program
That's all I needed, thanks.
TRAIN UNTAMEEEEEDDDDD
I have been doing the program in the sticky (sean10mm's stripped 5x5) and have been making gains despite
eating 1000 cals a day, so whoever says you can't build any muscle on a cut has never been fat, cutting, and
lifting at the same time. My back, leg, chest, and arm muscles are all visibly bigger/more defined, despite the
fact that they still have fat all over them.
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>>41553462
I started at 350
down to 310
I can see the change and my clothes are
baggy , feels good man
>>41553684
No problem. I lift at his gym so I'm shilling hard but yeah my body is 100x better and it's obvious I lift just by
looks now. Not lifting as a fatass cutting should be a sin. Wasting fantastic noob gains and muscle
development, and raising your TDEE.
>>41553713
That's awesome. Do you have to pay for the program? Is it something I can do in my home gym or is there a
bunch of shit that you only find in a real gym like box jumps and shit?
>>41553713
>>41553722
Basically, I have a squat rack, bench, barbell w/ weights, dumbells, lat pulldown, and an elliptical. Will I need
other shit besides this to do his program? I do see it costs $12, which I think is fair, and I wouldn't mind
supporting him.
>>41553739
Its cheap and has a ton of info. You can probably find it free somewhere. It's a 16 week program you can keep
doing over and over, it has a print out to track all your lifts and information on how to do some, as well as
alternatives if you can't front squat for instance.
You need to be able to do the big 4. OHP, Diddly, Squat, Bench. Pull-up are on there but I replaced them with
latpulldown till I could do 5 pull-ups so you're good there. Some dumbbell work.
Lunges may be the only difficult one but you can do standing ones.
Dips too. You may need to do assisted idk how strong you are.
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>>41549420
Make your own nudie fat calendar
>>41553806
Yeah, I can't into dips yet. Is there another movement I could sub in?
The strongman equipment, multiple power racks, and multiple platforms is what sold me.
And no. Dips are one of a kind. You should absolutely find a way to do assisted dips till you can do them.
Bands should be pretty cheap.
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