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1. Mike H. says: Hi Father, Thank you very much for this post. Im intrigued by your saying, We
ignore the role of shame in our lives to our own spiritual peril. Much that we imagine to be
righteousness is only shame in a fancy disguise.
This is something of which I feel like Ive seen the shadow in my own life (e.g., if I understand you
correctly, my attempts at piety are just a defense mechanism against the shame I feel in other parts
of my life), but I was wondering whether you could elaborate on that point.
2. Fr. Stephen Freeman says: Mike,
It is pretty consistent in the lives of the saints that as they grow in holiness, so they become far more
aware of their sin. The awareness of righteousness (in its many, many guises), is generally a delusion
and has little to do with righteousness. The way up is the way down, according to the Elder
Sophrony, but so very, very few choose it.
Frankly, I think very few people actually believe in God. (Thats a terrible thing to say, I know). We
believe in a cypher that stands as a place-holder for the concept of God. And the concept serves as a
place-holder for our ego (the false self). We see this by our behavior. We defend that which needs no
defending which can only mean that we believe it does need defending and thus cannot be God. We
concern ourselves daily and moment-by-moment with the outcome of history, when that belongs to
God alone.
Paul Tillich famously defined God as Ultimate Concern. Its true that what you are ultimately
concerned about serves as your God. But ultimate concern is a far, far cry from the true and living
God.
I have written previously about Christian Atheism in this regard.
Genuine righteousness looks much more like one of the classical fools for Christ than it does like
most peoples notions of righteousness. Indeed, if there is nothing of the fool about someone, then
they probably have not started their journey.
3. St. Longinus says: We cannot shame others and remain untouched. The very shame we extend
reaches within us and takes us with it.
Intriguing.
4. Fr. Stephen Freeman says: St. Longinus,
Its a point that Im not making up its a scientific account of the experience of shame. Its strange,
but can be proven over and over. It is indeed intriguing.
5. Maria says: You know, Father, it is not a terrible thing to say, Frankly, I think very few people
actually believe in God. It is true.
In my own life, observing myself I see that I do not believe in Him. I would certainly be different on
the whole if I did. Perhaps, when I say I believe in God, a minuscule part of my belief IS God, but it
seems the vast majority is something else, some other god.
I wonder something. Does a persons ability to see, and be, their real self help them see and believe in
God [in your sense]?
Thank you.
6. Jonathan says: I write this not knowing what side of the shame I am on. But knowing that I am
in it seems enough. My family experienced a trauma a few years ago. One family member responded
to another family members sin by refusing to share meals with him until he repented of his sin. The
family has not been together since. One part feels holy and the other wishing for acceptance. I am
without sin in the situation and pray God has mercy on us allit is the only way out. I find comfort in
the words of a few post agowe must stand up from behind the bush and say, here I am Lord.
Comfort me. I find myself wanting to change the situation, hide from it, yell at it, and sometime just
cry. But what do I really have that will help? These posts on shame have been close to my heart. I cant
help but think that prayer for Gods mercy is the only way.
7. St. Longinus says: @Jonathan,
Perhaps acceptance is not the correct word. Perhaps empathy is what the sinning party wants from
the holy family member(s). As for the holy family member(s), they might want to look in the mirror
for a bit. The sin shouldnt be accepted. However, the repentance, even if offered, may not be enough
for those who seek it from the sinning party?
8. Michael Bauman says: As we cannot shame others without being shamed neither can we
forgive others and not be forgiven.
Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me.
It is an Incarnational reality. God became us, is still us, body mind and soul except without sin. When
He arose He raised all the dead. That inculdes us.
The hymns of Pascha are not poetic fancy and metaphor. The hymns of Pascha describe both the
cosmic and personal reality of what and who we are.
The door to our experiencing that reality involves both death and shame: the Cross.
9. St. Longinus says: @Fr. Freeman,
There are times I know I believe in God because, in those moments, I trust Him completely to know
what I need, spiritually and materially, and how to provide it to me. And there are moments when I
offer Him or the Blessed Mother a prayer and I wonder whether either of them will listen to me
because Im not in a state of grace and therefore dont deserve to be heard. I have many doubts..
10. Nicholas Stephen Griswold says: Father, you speak truth and I think the violence of shaming
is rising in our culture. I hear people trying to preach their gospel using shame to attack others who
do not share their particular version. I also see you as spot on when you say those who use shame are
damaged by it as well. Thank you fr putting this in such a tidy package of truth.
11. Dean says: Fr. Stephen,
Your comment of the black laborer reminded me of an encounter in Death Valley. Outside one of the
tourist stores sat an old member of the Timbisha Shoshone tribe. I sat beside him on a long rock
barrier, out of the sun. I think he was drunk. But we struck up a conversation. Dont recall the
specifics. But he would say a few sentences. Then Id reply. Probably sat together only 10 minutes or
so. I believe I gave him a couple of dollars when I got up. I do know how badly I felt when I parted, no
doubt sorrow, guilt, empathy, shame, all jumbled together.
12. Taina says: How does bearing shame heal it? And by bearing shame, what exactly do you
mean? Thank you.