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* TA = Transmission Actuator; *ADVP = Output Digital Power Supply to High Source (+)
The short circuit at the output speed sensor is among the most commonly known defects.
Note:
If the ZF-end output speed sensor is unplugged, then the vehicle can still be operated in the
manual mode. (Then, diagnostic code 99 is active.)
Known:
With Neoplan vehicles, there must be a 2nd speed signal amplifier installed. (Output speedometer:
B7 / C3)
speed signal EST 42
amplifier
Signal chain (1 speed pulse distributor):
Speedsensor Tachograph speed signal EST 42
amplifier
Engine speed
Output speed
(peak)
The diagnostic code is set e.g. when starting the engine driving error.
The counting disc must be checked.
Torsional clearance of up to 3 mm is normal. If the counting disc can be loosely
turned, then the seat of the counting disc must be checked.
Transmission
If there are no noticeable problems to be found at the counting disc, then the
transmission actuators lower part must be replaced.
Important: The input speed is replaced by the engine speed and thus is displayed by the
TestmanPro despite the active error 98.
Note:
If the diagnostic code 98 occurs at the transmission actuator Wabco no. > 57000,
then, the BKS-I, BKS-R, or LKS-T depts. must be contacted immediately!
Note:
Replacing the output speed sensor does not solve the problem.
For EvoBus vehicles, check the speed range selector in line with the ServiceLine
instructions.
Check wiring of transmission actuator E-module. In the case of IVECO, DAF, and
EvoBus (new vehicle generation), the E-module is replaced by the speed range
selector.
Check the speed range selector and/or E-module.
Measure ZF-CAN (terminal tester; ignition off R = 60 Ohm).
Check transmission actuator.
Note:
In few cases only, the transmission actuator is the cause for the error and thus, the
very last action to be taken is to replace the transmission actuator.
Grease clutch release (can be done with the transmission installed in the vehicle).
SI 16/04c
Check the lubrication of input shaft.
Check the release bearing.
Check the clutch parts (pressure plate, disc, flywheel).
Grease to be used: Optimol Olista Longtime 3EP 100 gr. 0671 190 165
1 KG: 0671 190 050
Note:
In only few cases, replacing the clutch actuator will solve the problem. Prior to replacing the clutch
parts however, it is recommended to first temporarily - install a new clutch actuator. If this action
does not solve the problem, then the old part must be exchanged!
clutch (s_kup)
leaps up to 40 %
Note:
In only few cases, components such as the transmission or clutch actuator are the cause for the
problem i.e. the diagnostic code!
Note:
Measurement:
Check transmission braking gradient (e.g. oil leakage at the transmission ventilation
unit).
Check the clutchs parts.
If the clutchs parts are OK, then replace the transmission actuators lower part. (Only
known with transmission actuator GS3 Wabco no. < 15000)
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuator with the Wabco no. < 15000 in general (without a
complaint) is not acceptable!
Note:
In the case of EvoBus vehicle applications until production year 05/04, problems have
been reported in the compressor range. Here, it may happen that strongly soiled air
enters into the air circuit.
Consequence: Damage to the clutch actuator, transmission actuator, pressure relief
valve, as well as the accumulator charge valve.
Responsibility: EvoBus
Inspection possibility:
Apply lite hits (e.g. with screwdriver) on clutch actuator with ignition on. Sensor value
(clutch travel in mm) may not change thereby!
In connection with the self-adjusting clutch (Setra, EvoBus), unwanted resetting also
took place several times while traveling.
Here, replacing the clutch becomes necessary.
In connection with CR engines (MAN).
If the starting process of the engine is rather sluggish, then this may trigger error
detection of the diagnostic code 124.
Responsibility of the OEM.
Note:
In only few cases, components such as the transmission or clutch actuator are the
cause for this diagnostic code!
z_Sys_Status_2_UFB
Bit 2 = Cluch adjusting activ
Bit 3 = Clutch adjusting finished
In the case of unrealistic values, the transmission actuators lower part must only be
replaced if the diagnostic code 128 has been saved to the error memory.
Note:
If the diagnostic code 128 occurs with the transmission actuator Wabco no. > 57000,
then immediately get in contact with the BKS-I, BKS-R, or LKS-T departments!
Note:
Engine start is possible for vehicles which are using the neutral switch for the starter
interlock. But while self adjustment or shifting neutral will not be reconized.
Thus, a residual torque occurs with GV (splitter group) shifts (e.g. 11-12). The GV
cannot be turned off.
The transmission must be disassembled and the input shaft must be greased with
Optimol Olista Longtime 3EP after cleaning.
Note:
Replacing the components (clutch actuator, transmission actuator) does not solve the
problem!
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuator with the Wabco no. < 15000 in general (without a
complaint) is not acceptable!
Disassemble transmission actuator and check gate cylinder with reference to possible
sluggishness, stiffness of movement.
Note:
The matter has only been reported for transmission actuator Wabco no. < 17153. In
the case of noticeable problems with transmission actuator GS3 > 17513 please
contact the technical expert departments in Friedrichshafen, Germany.
Check the transmission braking gradient (datalogger measurement) (e.g. oil leakages
at the transmission ventilation unit).
In the case of a defective transmission brake, it becomes mandatory to check the oil
for possible water ingress. (also refer to ZF-ServiceLine: Final sheet of UFB (fault
finding and trouble shooting) L03/04: Transmission brake defective)
ZF Software; parameter too small (= difference of layshaft to mainshaft rpm) during the shifting
stationary: additional wrong parameter by selecting the starting gear
Remedy:
SW Update to SW Paket 7 Stand 6009 374 635AS in case of complain
serial production change of the software
Note:
Update of the chassis side datafile through MAN necessary
technical infomation from MAN will follow
See also Annual Technical Seminar 2005 chapter 15a site 21
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuator with the Wabco no. < 15000 in general (without a
complaint) is not acceptable!
Check limited positions (outside of tolerance Shift forks and/or neutral signal to be
checked; also refer to Limited positions outside of tolerance)
In the case of new vehicles and/or after transmission replacement, then the
countershafts position must be checked. (error in coasting-traction changes can be
reproduced).
Countershaft production error
Assembly error
Markings on the countershaft must be aligned (also refer to repair stage 3)
If there is no marking, then the laterally positioned bores must be positioned at
180 offset (countershafts between R gear and 1st gear).
(Also refer to 2004 Annual Technical Seminar, chapter 05a, Slide 14.)
Note: Replacing the transmission actuator does not solve the problem!
Note:
Replacing the components (transmission actuator / clutch actuator / output speed
sensor) does not solve the problem!
Error is set.
Clutch closes
Cause of complain:
During a downshift 7-6 in throttle, AS Tronic is changing the signal limit of engine
rpm between on and off. Signal does toggle.
Because of toggling, the engine does not accept the transmission request
Remedy:
Power supply to transmission actuator (Terminal 15) must be checked. Case well
known:
IVECO: Defective body computer.
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuator does not solve the problem.
Control units that are connected to the vehicle CAN must be checked.
The CAN plug connections from the vehicle CAN must be checked.
Note:
In only few cases, replacing the transmission actuator will solve the problem.
Cause :
prevention of components; F188 appears with the old GS3: 6009 274 055
(new: 6009 274 070, serial since the 21. ofJune 2002)
For the ZF transmission actuator GS-3 no. < 372733, the transmission actuators
upper part must be replaced.
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuators upper part is only justified if the error occurs
while traveling. The vehicle will be ready for operation after a renewed configuration
release / approval.
Note:
For the current SW status of TestmanPro, the following icon must be activated:
Configuration
Additional brakes
If, with ignition on, the signal Nebenabtrieb PTO1 aktiv (=power take-off PTO1 active) is set, then
the transmission actuators (GS-3) electronics do not switch off correctly.
After ignition ON, (sometimes) the diagnostic code 192 is displayed.
MAN: The following input at the vehicle control unit (VCU controller) must be checked: X4 /15
(mass triggered)
With ignition OFF, no signal should be displayed here!! OEM / Body builder
IVECO: Various body builders control the PTO via a remote control unit. Thus, because of a wiring
error, it may happen that Terminal 15 of the transmission is switched off by the transmission but
not by the body control computer.
With ignition OFF, no signal from the PTO should be present at the range selector lever OEM /
Body builder.
Note:
Simple opportunities for inspection: With ignition OFF, the GP has to shift to GPS. If that is not the
case, then check Terminal 15!
The respectively sending control unit is responsible for the corresponding signal!
Vehicle CAN and control unit must be checked OEM.
Note:
Replacing the transmission actuator does not solve the problem!
Note:
The neutral signal is the only transmission-end signal which inhibits an engine start.
For MAN vehicles, there may be an additional diagnostic code displayed: FFR 3197 (neutral signal
missing).
Cause of failure
excessive wear inside the
main piston of the GS3 because of
unusual incoming frequency
Remedy
Detailed and exact complaint directly to be noted with the driver present and, if
possible, insist upon demonstration. (registration by means of datalogger)
Upon request, carry out driver training (Sales Promotion)
Note: Replacing the transmission actuator and/or clutch actuator and/or transmission
does not solve the problem.
Note:
In only few cases, replacing the transmission actuator will solve the problem. Prior to
replacing the clutch parts however, it is recommended to first temporarily - install a new
clutch actuator. If this action does not solve the problem, then the genuine part must be re-
inserted!
Complaints:
Juddering while starting movement
Cause:
With software pak 7 (6009 374 584) comparing to pak 5 (6009 374 514) the clutch closes faster to reduce the clutch
wear.
Actions:
Work off the checklist
Measurement with Datalogger. Set:
n_mot n_sek
s_kup alpha_fp
n_ab sollgang
The DAVIE diagnostic system controls the clutch actuator without transmission
actuator control as such. Thus, it may happen that the clutch actuator despite that
control mode does not travel.
Note:
In this case, we are dealing with a wrong diagnosis. The clutch actuator is OK and
thus, there is no need for replacement.
Note:
In the case of higher limited positions > also refer to the above stated transmission serial
numbers, then -prior to removing the transmission- contact must be made with the
respective technical expert departments in Friedrichshafen/ Germany.
With those higher limited positions, it is also the shift signal in neutral position which must
be checked. If this signal is higher (> 345 inc.), then the transmission actuators lower part
must be replaced. (alternative: repair kit 0501 322 388)
BKS-I/BKS-R AS-Tronic 2 Diagnostics Page 51
As of:December 07 , 2005
High Level of Clutch Wear
Burned Clutch
Diagnostic code: None
If the tilting clearance is > 4mm, then the DMF must be removed and checked according to the test
specification (OEM).
Note:
Responsibility resides with OEM
Note:
Only install bearings with 11 rollers!
Remedy:
MAN: Consultation with LKS-T dept. (Mr. Jung) bzw. BKS-I (Mr. Vogel, Mr. Pricha)
EvoBus: Consultation with BKS-R dept. (Mr. Schelkle)
Remedy:
After ignition ON, wait for approx. 1-2 seconds before starting the engine.
Responsibility: EvoBus
Note:
Control parameters with the datalogger:
Complaints:
Shifting characteristics Getting stuck on an uphill gradient.
Overspeeding of engine.
No adaptation shifts below approx. 20 km/h up to standstill.
Shift noise during GP (range change group) shifting.
Load build-up in R gear operation too slow.
Speed limit for shifting in the lower speeds is not optimal.
Remedial action planned for presumably end of 2005 by means of a software update.
complaint: Long CH check phase, long shifting times, delay in the clutch learning
process, bad shift quality
cause: Air compressor contaminates the air system with hot engine oil with the
result of a carbonization of the air hoses and all periphery components.
new: contaminated:
remedy action: EvoBus did recognize this behavior mainly at the six cylinder engine with
straight head OM 457 LA und HLA.
Any remedy action must be organized via EvoBus.
In case of complain, all ZF components must be exchanged and charged
towards EvoBus.