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IamconductingaliftanalysisusingalinearFEAsoftwarepackage.Theliftisaflatskidthatat4pointswitha60deg(fromhorrizontal)liftangle.
Thepackagewillonlycalculatethestresses,deflections,etc.WhatIamtryingtoanalyzeisthebucklingofthemainskidbeamsbeingcompressedaxiallyfromhorrizontalforce
componentsoftheslings.
Isthistobetreatedasacolumn,pineedatbothends?CanIusethesamecriticallengthinthecaluclation?Dothetransversememberscomeintoplayfortheunsupportedlength?
Thanksinadvance.
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Ummm...evenalinearFEApackageshoulshavealinear(Eigenvalue)bucklingevaluationcapability.
Yes,youcouldtreattherailsascolumnsandrunsomehandcalc's.Presumablytheweakaxisisinthehorizontalplanethisiswherethetransversemembersmayhavean
influence.However,ifyouconsiderthatbothrailshavethesameloading,andmaybothbuckleinthesamedirection,wouldyoureallytakecreditforthesupportprovidedbythe
transversemembers?
Runthenumberswithoutconsiderationforthetransversemembers...thenstarttothinkaboutwhatyourdesignmarginshouldbe.IfyourPcriticalisgreaterthan10timesthe
actualload,itsprettystraightforward.Ifits1.4,that'samuchhardersituationtoevaluate.
jt
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Iwouldtreatascolumnwithlateralload.Pinnedcondition,bothends.
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Ps...assumingpinnedconditioncanbeusedinthisapplication.
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engpes,
InoticedthatyouhadpreviouslyaskedaquestionaboutforkpocketsonDNV2.71skids.Assumingthatyourcurrentquestionisalsoabout2.71skids,rememberthatoneofthe
requiredtestsforthisskidwillbetoremovetwodiagonalshacklesandpulltheremainingtwoshacklesto1.5XtheMGWoftheskid.Inthiscase,transversememberswillcomeinto
play,andyouwilldefinitelynotbetreatingtheskidashavingpinnedbeams.Thecornerswilltakesome(potentiallylarge)bendingloads.Yourtransverseandverticalmemberswill
contributesignificantlytocarryingtheloadofthe2partpulltest.Thememberreceivesbothbendingandcompression.
Engineeringisnotthesciencebehindbuilding.Itisthesciencebehindnotbuilding.
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eng..
Howabouttherequireduseofa"spreaderbar"duringthelift?
Asiseeit,columnloadingsandbucklingproblemswithintheskidstructurewillgoaway???Isthatcorrect?
Iamassumingthattherewillonlybeasinglelifttoplacetheskid.
Ifyoucancontroltheliftenoughtoensurealiftangleofnolessthan60degrees,(youdorealizethat45ismorecommon....right?)thenyoucanensurespreadersbeamsare
used.
ThecostofthespreaderbeamsisprobablylessthetheFEA..
Myopiniononly
MJC
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isthisreallyassimpleasitsounds?...askidbeingliftedatthe4cornersbyslingsinclined60deg??
howmuchcompressionintheskid?comeon,thisis1styearvectors,no?
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