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IamconductingaliftanalysisusingalinearFEAsoftwarepackage.Theliftisaflatskidthatat4pointswitha60deg(fromhorrizontal)liftangle.

Thepackagewillonlycalculatethestresses,deflections,etc.WhatIamtryingtoanalyzeisthebucklingofthemainskidbeamsbeingcompressedaxiallyfromhorrizontalforce
componentsoftheslings.

Isthistobetreatedasacolumn,pineedatbothends?CanIusethesamecriticallengthinthecaluclation?Dothetransversememberscomeintoplayfortheunsupportedlength?

Thanksinadvance.

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Ummm...evenalinearFEApackageshoulshavealinear(Eigenvalue)bucklingevaluationcapability.

Yes,youcouldtreattherailsascolumnsandrunsomehandcalc's.Presumablytheweakaxisisinthehorizontalplanethisiswherethetransversemembersmayhavean
influence.However,ifyouconsiderthatbothrailshavethesameloading,andmaybothbuckleinthesamedirection,wouldyoureallytakecreditforthesupportprovidedbythe
transversemembers?

Runthenumberswithoutconsiderationforthetransversemembers...thenstarttothinkaboutwhatyourdesignmarginshouldbe.IfyourPcriticalisgreaterthan10timesthe
actualload,itsprettystraightforward.Ifits1.4,that'samuchhardersituationtoevaluate.

jt

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Iwouldtreatascolumnwithlateralload.Pinnedcondition,bothends.

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Ps...assumingpinnedconditioncanbeusedinthisapplication.

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engpes,

InoticedthatyouhadpreviouslyaskedaquestionaboutforkpocketsonDNV2.71skids.Assumingthatyourcurrentquestionisalsoabout2.71skids,rememberthatoneofthe
requiredtestsforthisskidwillbetoremovetwodiagonalshacklesandpulltheremainingtwoshacklesto1.5XtheMGWoftheskid.Inthiscase,transversememberswillcomeinto
play,andyouwilldefinitelynotbetreatingtheskidashavingpinnedbeams.Thecornerswilltakesome(potentiallylarge)bendingloads.Yourtransverseandverticalmemberswill
contributesignificantlytocarryingtheloadofthe2partpulltest.Thememberreceivesbothbendingandcompression.

Engineeringisnotthesciencebehindbuilding.Itisthesciencebehindnotbuilding.

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eng..

Howabouttherequireduseofa"spreaderbar"duringthelift?

Asiseeit,columnloadingsandbucklingproblemswithintheskidstructurewillgoaway???Isthatcorrect?

Iamassumingthattherewillonlybeasinglelifttoplacetheskid.

Ifyoucancontroltheliftenoughtoensurealiftangleofnolessthan60degrees,(youdorealizethat45ismorecommon....right?)thenyoucanensurespreadersbeamsare
used.

ThecostofthespreaderbeamsisprobablylessthetheFEA..

Myopiniononly

MJC

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isthisreallyassimpleasitsounds?...askidbeingliftedatthe4cornersbyslingsinclined60deg??

howmuchcompressionintheskid?comeon,thisis1styearvectors,no?

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