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I spend a lot of time on this site and read a lot of debriefs for motivation. After n-th debrief they are became a little similar
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With one exception: you can add to the main course EGmat SC - especially if you have some gaps in grammar. I did not Participate to Earn Points
advertise them and to prov e it I can say that they have a lot of problem with customer service and technical quality of
material (not critical but still as IT guy I was sometimes irritated). But their approach in learning change my view of English
grammar.
I have a strange way of English learning. My native languages are Russian and Ukrainian and I didn't study English at school.
When I found first normal job in which English was needed I start to learn it by myself but never learn grammar. I always
wonder: if child don't learn grammar and speak easily why should I learn grammar? After 3-4 years I start quite confidently
speak, have a big vocabulary baggage and easily watch movies with subtitles. Two years ago I pass Toefl on 101 from 120 but
still didn't know any grammar rule. I hav e no idea what is present perfect and how to use it let alone future perfect or
modifiers with or without comma.
So when I start to learn sentence correction in GMAT I cry a lot GMAT explains me very earnestly why I need grammar )
I can't read Manhattan SC. I still dont read it and think never will. For me it was like reading phonebook: rule, rule, rule. How
normal person can remember all this stuff? EGmat saved me. They have really cool, fluent approach to load grammar into your
brain, spoon by spoon I am really happy that I bought their course (CR part is ok but Powerscore is better and I don't
understand who needs book for RC so it is definitely don't worth to by it)

2. Are you lucky?


I didnt want to write this point in my previous debrief because of my low score. But now I can freely write it. Gmat is not a
fair test. There is a lot of luck. In my first exam I met two combinatory tasks and zero of mixture tasks. In my second exam I
met two mixture problem and zero combinatory. What if I hate mixture problems and adore combinatory tasks? I will have a
gain in first exam and minus in second exam. How is this fair? But this is usual situation in any competition. When I was a
dancer we have a way much more subjectiveness in our competitions. There was a lot of tears, disputes and hot debates.
Judges are just people and they cant simultaneously pay attention on 30 couples on dance floor. And one person ask my
teacher: "Why I dance so cool and another couple so bad and I lost and they are win?" And teacher sais genius thing: Was you
worst 10 seconds of dance better than your competitors best 10 seconds? What if judge saw you worst moment and their best?
Why I write all this stuff? For two remarks:
a) do not omit some parts of GMAT (probability, mixture, alphabetic, functions or some other weird stuff) do so is a really
dangerous practice. The more you omit the more you will need a luck on exam.
b) do not get despair if you didnt pass from first/second time. There is a lot of luck in this exam. Just book the next exam,
keep calm and continue your preparation.

3. Sacrilegious story about quant legend of this site


It is really scare to write this point but I feel a moral obligation so I will do it On this forum present a genius of math it is a
Bunuel. Now I adore his explanations and reread them even if done the task correctly. He is always find some unique, short and
unexpected way of solution.
But when I after 4 months of preparation I start to use this site I did not understand his explanations. In 50% of cases at all.

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They were amazing (I felt it) but my level wasnt enough for understand them. And when I read after his explanation 2-3
comments Wow this is amazing it was really depressing because I feel myself infinitely stupid (because all understand it
except of me!).
So if you do not understand his explanations it is ok. Just try to find another comment, another type of explanation. Do not
give up if you do not understand, just continue to try to understand it and understanding will come.
I write it because for me it was a really difficult and shameful moment so I hope I will help to somebody to restore confidence
if s/he will be in the same situation (also I hope that I not only one who had such problem

4. Do not be greedy it is usually too much expensive finally


Do not save your GMAT prep test till final dates. It has an algorithm that will give you questions of your level. So when you
make them at beginning of your preparation you will meet easy questions. When you increase your level you will meet another
more difficult questions. This will be much more productive then use them one time before the exam.

5. Shock true about market leaders


Manhattan and Veritas prep CATs. IMO too hard. I never reach 700 in any of them test. So do not be upset if you such cases.

6. How I make mistake, lost money and why I glad because of this situation
GMATclub quant tests. Priceless. You should bought it one time because you should support amazing work of bb and Bunuel. I
did this at first because I didnt know how to make kudos But I didnt regret, such work should be supported.
IMO this is the most representative tests. Only GMAT prep better. For now I did 22 tests. Each of them are unique and gav e me
some new tricks.

7. You will not win by following some voodoo rituals. Sorry for harsh true
At first test I did all correctly: food, timing, I was in center before test, I take shirt because there was a conditioner, I wash my
face in breaks. What I have finally? 660 Second attempt: I have a headache, I forget water and food, and come to center 10
minutes before exam. And I did it. I dont know why. But I think that all this stuff around the exam decide nothing. Knowledge,
Ways to earn points
calmness and a little bit of luck - this are all you nned on exam, do not create too much pomp about this event because it Redeem points For rewards
worsen situation with your merv es
My suggest is to not bother too much about all this DDday stuff. (be careful it is only my opinion and I do not hav e any
responsibility for my advice

8. All you need is Motivation


Motivation. During the preparation I found this YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnJ-KJ ... rGs_6XfmmQ
IMO it is amazing because it gives me a lot of energy when I was desperately tired from all this stuff. There was a lot of such
such periods so I rewatch this v ideos many times.

9. How I lost at least one month of preparation


I was really angry at myself when I realized that I read about error log but didnt catch the main idea. I was reading all this
articles and I hav e impression that you should enter your tasks in this excel and get some report that shows you there is your
weak spots. Useless thing as for me. When I read article of MikeMcgarry http://magoosh.com/gre/2013/good-i-got-it-wrong/
and I did my own error log

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in which I put task, put link from gmatclub and write what was my problem with this task. And after some days I try to solve it
again.
I was shocked when I saw that some tasks I did 4-5 times wrong. I just cant remember how to solve or there was a trick. After
this invention my math went up really quickly. When you read decision this is not mean that you remember and understand
it. After read of decision you must close decision and solve it from zero immediately. Sometimes you will not solve it and then
you should reread it and again close solution and solv e it from scratch.
Why I was angry? Because when I reread error log instructions I see that all guys write about it and I just miss that part. This
mistake cost minimum month to time of my preparation.

10. Do you interesting in some cool stuff? Be careful it is addictive


Between my official attempts I found this author:
http://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/blog/ ... nprep-com/
Amazing stuff. Sadly that I found it only in last weeks. This is another big mistake (

11. Forget about point 8. Motivation sucks! All you need is Discipline
Put a really long password on your Facebook and other entertaining accounts. Something like IReallyWantToPassGmatOn 7++
so when you will have a desire to break the discipline you will be reminded about your past decision and maybe you will return
to GMAT stuff instead of Facebook surfing.
Also make a day plan in which put some everyday tasks such as
A) read 10 pages of Manhattan
B) make 10 SC
C) make 10 DS
and just check it day by day in excel: green cells if you make it and red if you dont. The global picture with a lot of red cells
will shame you and green picture will motivate you. Don't use reminders: you should see global picture of your discipline. But
be realistic. Make a small plan but from littel tasks but do it every day: this is a way to create new habit.
Discipline is really important part. You need a motivation, but discipline is more important. Do not way for some inspiration:
just sit and start to solve tasks and motiv ation will come to you

12. I do not believe them. And this helps me to sleep calmer


I will not write how long I prepare for GMAT because it was too much. But I want to write about other thing. There is a lot of
debriefs in which somebody write: 4 weeks and I received 7++. Such debriefs are killing me. I am already wrote about my
English level it was a disaster. My math was much worse. I didnt learn math in school (
After 3-5 month of preparation I still says that 22 + 23 will be 25 . And I 35 years old. And I do not have college. I will be
honest I did not believ e in myself when I was at beginning of my preparation.
I do not write it to boast. I write all this with only one purpose: if I did it any of you can do it. I hav e some friends who are
much smarter, who hav e a college and work as consultants in prestige firms and know a lot of about GMAT. They say to me that
"maybe GMAT is not for me", after my first attempt on 490. They say that "GMAT is like IQ test and one can not change it on
more than 100 points". They did it not because they are bad friends. They did it because people do not believe in themselv es
and subsequently do not believe in anyone. But this is wrong life position.
Do not listen to anyone who told you that you can not do something in GMAT. Just continue learning. Big score it is matter of
time and you stubbornness.

13. Secret from Nobelist


Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F3vmNeyOvU
I hope after watching you will understand why writing posts in style +1 for C is useless and why writing your way of reasoning
is priceless for you not for others.

14. Secret level of understanding


Another article from Mike Mcgarry http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/understand ... rformance/
Here is short excerpt:

Stages of Understanding
We could outline, roughly, six levels of understanding.
Lev el #0 = no understanding, its completely foreign, does not compute
Lev el #1 = looks familiar, Yeah, I think Ive seen that before, some dim memory of how to do it
Lev el #2 = with a little review, or some key hints or coaching, you can solve one of these problems.
Lev el #3 = In the course of focusedpractice, you can solve these problems consistently. If you are in the zone for that

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problem type, then you can do it.


Lev el #4 = you can see the problem cold and, with no warm up, be able to solve it, time and time again. This happens in
diverse-problem practice.
Lev el #5 = you can not only solv e the problem, but explain explicitly the strategy employed in solving the problem
Lev el #6 = you can teach the problem clearly to someone who is struggling with how to work through it, and you can answer
all their questions in a way they understand. (The old adage among teachers: The best way to learn something is to teach it.)

I think out level #7 = creating or chaning of tasks: if you struggle from DS tasks try to take a simple one and change it. Put off
the type. Change the type. Add some conditions from another task. And try to understand how answer reacts on all this
changes. It will be better to have friend to check your inventions. If you make one or two DS tasks in one topic by yourself
your level of understanding DS became amazing. I had a period when I did like a 15 of DS tasks and I realized how it is difficult
to create a good real DS task. I realized that each word in task has a sense, that conditions are connected and you can easily
back solv e task because you can initially find the answer and after that check the conditions separately and a lot of another
tricks.
But by changing of task I mean not to change a on c or 5 on 6 but make some serious changes.
But I suggest NOT to post your initial attempts on forum because it can became a disaster like my first attempt:
is-x-y-x-y-even-integer-195807.html
I change answer 4 times! In my own task. It was really shameful situation )

15. Hello Captain!


It is quite obvious but still worth to mention. Do not polish your strengths: pay attention on your weak spots. It is much easier
to gain some scores by fixing weak spot then by increase quality of your strong side. I knew it rule by heart from business. But
periodically catch myself on solving critical reasoning (strongest part) and put away geometry and algebra (weakiest part).

16. Really working way to 50. Money back guarantee!


Secret technic for transform 47 to 50. When you achieve 46-48 you already know all what you need to know about math. And
only careless mistakes drag you down. I hear this method from Ron but it was about sentence correction. You need to pick one
type of mistake (for example subject verb agreement) and go through all OG tasks but looking only for this mistake. That is it.
It is desperately boring but you will train your eye for catching such errors.
It is boring I give up after third type of error

But I make a little trasformation of this method and apply it to math. If you make error log then you know with type of careless
mistakes you did often. For example I lov e to forget what question asks and answer on something other. What I do with this
mistake. All day before solving tasks I write question at the top of my list and draw a little square near it. Before submit task I
force myself to reread question (and lose precious seconds for it I ev en now feel an inner protest about such stupid actions
and check this square. But really reread this question! Only checking the square will not help. First times it is impossible. You
try to control yourself but still make this mistake. It is like a magic. This exercise clearly show that we can not control
ourselv es. But after some days (if you not give up) it became a new habit. And you start check question automatically. And you
win at least 1-2 task on the exam because of this habit.

17. RC
I do not know why but I never met any advice about vocabulary. And I think this is really important part of RC and CR. One
word can easily solve the correctness of the answer. Learn all words from RC passages this is too extreme and v ery often GMAC
include wrods that you do not need at all. Shist, big tits (no this is not that you think about this is word from animals world,
algae, aardvark and so on. You will meet such words in RC but you can easilty substitute it with X and solve the questions.
So for me I design three step process of solving RC passages:
1) Number of questions * 1:30 = Total time. Read and solve questions during the total time. If not have time - guess.
2) Read passage second time and make second attempt on each question. Take as much time as want but you should give
correct answer.
3) Third attempt but with use of dictionary. Read unknow words and try to understand: is this word change something in your
previous answer? If yes - you should remeber this word.

After these steps you can easily understand what is you problem: is it time issues or v ocabulary issues.
For vocabulary issues I reccomend to use Anki.
Learn how to use

For time issues - only reading practice. But I nev er understand why people recommend to read some other sources. We
preparing for GMAT so for reading practice we should use GMAT passages and during this practice we should answer to the
questions. No other practice can give your development in this type of questions. Don't waste your precious preparation time
on other sources.

This is debatable claim but this is only my unprofessional opinion so I hope you will forgive me my tone )

18. How I completely fail my second attempt


I start really cool. I have a lot of time at 7 IR question and I relax. After some questions more I stuck with one problem and
after this delay did not have a time for last three tasks. That was really careless and stupid. Result: IR 3.
Ok. I learn my lesson during the break and prepare myself morally to quant.

First quant task 1:30 - excellent. Second task and I see that this is simple. It is really simple but I can not do it. I write more
one half of page and still can not do it. It was situation from nightmare you see that something scary happens and you can do
nothing. I understand that I can not skip second simple task! And I watch on timer and realize that I spend more than 5 minutes
on this task. Goodbye dreams about 1 round, hello second round and third attempt.
I lost this battle but decide to gain some experience and do not throw off my money. So let's do it for fun. I estimate this stupid
task and continue my test. There were some more problems. Not so dramatic but I did this quant way to much worse than my
previous attempt. Verbal? It was ok. My SC still sucks ( but there was some progress in comparison to first attempt.

When I saw my score I was shocked more than in my previous attempt: unpleasant-surprise-660-q48-v33-201704.html
I was 100% sure that I received less than 660. I do not know what happens. This was really weird.

Read this article: http://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/blog/ ... ill-creep/


and never estimate your success during the exam. This is really golden rule.

19. Be strong guys. This is last point


Finally. If you are usual guy or gal without extra quant or v erbal knowledge then you have a long way to go.
You can make it boring. You can make it sad. You can fill it with hate to all this cramming. Or you can love it and make this
period interesting and fascinating.
GMAT can be a beast or can be a tool that makes your brain faster, smarter and more inventive.

And this is depends not from GMAT, not from your tutor, not from your course and not from this site. It is only your choice about
what role GMAT will play in this period of your life.

I chose to lov e it and for now I have a little sadness that this period is over (
And a little joy too for sure.
Ok, I will be honest: mainly joy actually

Good luck in your preparation guys. Hope I not boring you with my pieces of advice
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"Anti debrief" nice title!, #2, #7 and #17 are the most important points. I realized #17 when I was giving GMATPREP for my 3rd
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Mo2men wrote:

I was not sure that I pass exam on a good score so I did not schoose school at all. And now I try to understand in which of
them I want to go.

I definitely know that I want to USA.


After school I want to continue make my own IT business so I want school with strong entrepreneurship specialization
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hi Harley,
you deserve every bit of that score you got. whenever i came to this platform, i always ensured that i solve the problems
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hi Harley,
you deserve every bit of that score you got. whenever i came to this platform, i always ensured that i solve the problems
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congrats & all the v ery best for future.keep in touch.

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I read your entire debrief. There is a bit of a funny thing I wanted to point out. I could find few quite obvious grammar issues
with your post;). Frankly it is possible that they were just typos, but since you mentioned that you did not learn English at all
at school, it could be anything.

So, it is all the more creditable that you could score 40 on verbal. The reason why this was a specific inspiration for me was
that I actually did read English at school...and so, I am thinking...if you can do it, I can also....

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I read your entire debrief. There is a bit of a funny thing I wanted to point out. I could find few quite obvious grammar
issues with your post;). Frankly it is possible that they were just typos, but since you mentioned that you did not learn
English at all at school, it could be anything.

Joined: 06 Jul 2014 So, it is all the more creditable that you could score 40 on verbal. The reason why this was a specific inspiration for me was
Posts: 1274 that I actually did read English at school...and so, I am thinking...if you can do it, I can also....
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Congrats on a great score Harley. I have a few questions for you.

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