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Uranus square Pluto

The astrological event scheduled in the sky is destined to occur so the global astrologer has a sneak preview of whats
coming up on humanitys agenda. S/hes a curious spectator, watching a script written in the sky unfold here on Earth,
and these days some of the astrological events are scarier than a Hollywood movie. But unlike the fake terror and
horror served up by Hollywood the scenes being played out on the world stage are horrifyingly real.
A square aspect in the sky has a 10 orb so Uranus moved to form a high-discord obstacle (square) aspect with Pluto
in March 2009. Uranus was in Pisces (restrictions, relief measures and crime) and Pluto was in Capricorn (business,
corporation and government administration.) Then, on May 29, 2010 Uranus, the planet of extremists and radical
politics, moved to Aries, the militant zodiac sign, but it wasnt until March 12, 2011 that its major eight-year transit of
Aries got into top gear. It signaled the start of a new cycle of freedom-fighting and militant extremism.
On June 24, 2012 Uranus and Pluto formed the first of their seven square aspects. The second was formed on
September 19, 2012, the third on May 20, 2013, and the fourth on November 1, 2013 at 11.14am UT. Their fifth
square aspect will be formed on April 21, 2014 at 6.39pm UT; the sixth on December 15, 2014 at 6.15am UT and the
seventh on March 17, 2015 at 1.51am UT. And each time the aspect reaches its peak power and discord date there are
events on the Earth bearing the characteristics of Uranus and Pluto that have national and international ramifications.
They mark for menacing moments that occur through people who are responding to the destructive thought-force
being transmitted by this astral-earthquake in the sky.
Uranus and Pluto have delegates here on Earth and theyre both busy recruiting new members. Uranus is represented
by the freedom-fighters and radical extremists. Pluto is represented by groups. The Higher-Pluto group is devoted to
human betterment, collaboration and cooperative effort. The Lower-Pluto group is intent on division, disunity,
coercion, destruction and death. But Lower-Pluto is more insidious than you ever imagined. Its chief method of
destruction is inversion the subtle distortion of facts to mean what they dont and these days the inversion is so
subtle, understated and cunning that its missed by even the most astute observer. Lower-Pluto you see is
humanitys great menace.
The wolf in sheeps clothing Lower-Pluto seems to be a sweet and innocent lamb, but s/hes really a wolf. S/hes a
devious trouble-maker disseminating a vile, evil message. And special privilege and special interest groups are using
subtle inversion to create a public opinion thats favorable to their purpose. You may have concluded that theres been
an erosion of decency standards in public behavior and that Lower-Pluto is a cesspool of putrid thoughts and feelings
that have to be challenged but personally avoided. But with so much bad stuff going on its easy to get caught off-
guard and you can find yourself viewing or hearing something thats being broadcast from Lower-Plutos murky world
of lies, misinformation and inversions. The ten-second warning you got didnt help.
The Uranus-Pluto square aspect marks for extreme coercion, radical action by extremist groups, international
disunity, radical provocation, drastic developments, social unrest, mob violence, protests, strikes and demonstrations.
Unions and coalitions struggle to cooperate so splits occur. In the political arena the division is extreme. And the
extremist groups are intent on death and destruction. The social unrest is extreme and the authorities are taking
drastic action and dictatorial measures to maintain law and order. You make me angry, I will kill you is the aspects
anthem and there seems to be a competition to see who can be the most extreme and vexatious. Lower-Plutos
henchmen include tyrants and dictators, but the cry for freedom (Uranus) is getting louder and every now and then
Uranus delivers a startling expos that makes you wonder.
The sixth Uranus-Pluto square aspect will be formed in the sky on December 15, 2014 at 6.15am UT; and their final
square aspect will occur on March 17, 2015 at 1.51am UT.
Uranus/Pluto The Awakening Force
by Rose Marcus, June 23, 2012

On June 24, 2012, (1:14 am PDT) Uranus and Pluto meet for the first of seven dynamic alignments. The last will
occur in March of 2015. Between now and then we will pen an introductory chapter for a most significant new day of
collective reckoning. Whenever Uranus and Pluto align, our reality base is reformatted in some radical, sharp-edged,
and irrevocable way. A lot happens over a short period of time, sometimes in a sudden flash. Collective evolution
accelerates. Personal lives are forever altered too. The impact of these years on your personal life will depend on your
chart, but even so, major change is inevitable for all.

Uranus/Pluto alignments bring the amazing into being and convert it to the norm. Intellectual, cultural, social, political
systems and geophysical landscapes can be radical altered. This outer planet transit serves to shatter the crystallized
structure of our conditioned consciousness and its response mechanisms, and to enforce an end to that which has
already expired. Included on this demolition docket are the outmoded concepts and justifications that perpetuate the
repeating-loop living patterns of our everyday reality.

The next few years mark a catalytic time-has-come-moment for the Uranus conjunct Pluto folk born in 1960s and also
for the Uranus square Pluto folk born in the first half of the 1930s. The synodic conjunction of the 1960s delivered
humanity to the doorstep of a new social world order. The 2012 to 2015 Uranus square Pluto alignment marks the first
quarter threshold of this bigger picture agenda.
As is readily evidenced everywhere, the weight of the past now bears down on the present with significant knee-
buckling force. Global economic and political uncertainty, social unrest, corruption, violence, extreme weather
patterns, alarming climate changes, compromised growing seasons, rising water levels, and increasing seismic activity
the consequences of the past are shaping and dictating to where we take it from here.

The moment cannot be side-stepped. Breaking it down in order to build it better, Uranus/Pluto thrusts us onto the
critical fissure lines between yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Pluto correlates to the core motivations of the soul, our bigger picture evolution, the process of regenerative and
reincarnation. When Pluto is activated, we mine from the core of soul consciousness, desire, and need. Pluto transits
compel us toward profound inner and outer growth.

Uranus is known as the Great Awakener. Its influence accelerates and revolutionizes. The effects can produce the
eruptive, erratic, sudden, surprising, electrifying, extreme, shocking, irrational, and traumatic. Uranus also correlates
to cellular memory, brain and nervous system functioning, insight, foresight, and intuition. Uranus emancipates that
which is ready to be set free. It sparks the creative flint of individuation, liberation, invention, and scientific advance.
Whenever Uranus is activated, the status quo is purposefully disrupted. Synchronicity sets in to faster motion. Uranus
ushers in new knowledge, technology, political, cultural, and social movements. Uranus transits ignite revolution,
contagion, and wild-fires. Life changes in ways we could not imagine nor fathom previously.
Combined, Uranus and Pluto are hot-wired for action. When push comes to shove, they can be volatile and explosive.
This is a formidable, overpowering and overtaking force. Life can come at you in unexpected and disconcerting ways.
Change may occur in an instant, but the effects are long lasting.

So whats going to happen? It is already headlining today's news. Take a look around you, take a look inside you. It is
already in the works.

There may or may not be an actual event catalyst or sudden disruption in your life, but know that as each of the seven
Uranus/Pluto exact alignments occur, another significant line in the sand will be defined. At each one of these
informing marker points, we gain a glimpse of the potentials that lie ahead. In symbolic reference to the entrances of
sacred temples of the ancients, perhaps we can consider each of these seven alignments as our purification threshold.
One way or another, you will meet with your tomorrow. One way or another we will meet with our tomorrow. We
must not fear it, we must welcome it instead. We must label what comes next as desired progress, even though it
means leaving the past behind, even though it means giving up to get, and even though we arent sure of what we are
getting ourselves into. New potentials must be gifted with room to reveal themselves, to grow, to flourish, and to
demonstrate their truth. We cannot do this adequately if we stayed buried under the crush of bedrock that we have
misidentified as our security blanket. It is a time to evaluate what is of use and to refortify it, but it makes no sense to
preserve what hasnt worked so far. We must not stave off the inevitable. This is not a time to stay on the freeze frame
of what was. It is a time to bring ourselves up to speed with what is. We need to catch up to our present opportunities,
to actively seek to form a better alignment with the future that racing ahead of us. Whether spurred by inspiration,
outrage, or life-on-the-line our drive and creativity can be unlimited. Employed to the greater good, tenacity directed
toward triumph is one of the great gifts of this transit.
Resistance to change is great folly now. It will only lead to reactionary whip-lash and a more dramatic carpet-pull
later. (The Arab spring, the Occupy movement, the student protests, Mother Natures growing discomfort witness
the revolution in its inception.) The evolutionary pressure will peak at each of the seven Uranus/Pluto alignments.

On the individual level, much of our outer challenges can seem insurmountable. Life circumstances may not allow
enough freedom to act. In fact, we are now more restricted than ever. However narrow the margins may be or get,
there is always a way, always something more you can do for yourself, always something more you can contribute to
the people and the world around you. When life just doesnt make any more sense, when futility, disappointment, or
despair sets in and you feel like you cant carry on, do what comes naturally breathe, and then breathe some more.
Sometimes it isnt about figuring it out, but about letting life take over and of rising up to meet it when it does. Even
when life seems motionless, it is still moving you forward. With Uranus and Pluto so activated now and in the coming
years, if you run out of answers, options, or energy, know you wont be stalled for long. Uranus and Pluto are
naturally stimulating and invigorating. When you cant find the strength, courage, or curiosity within you to take that
next important step, simply stay alert for the winds of change. Once the unmistakable moment arrives - and it will -
ride it. Let the wind carry you until you can source yourself again. While you wait, try to disengage from clock
watching. Whether you can fully appreciate its workings or not, divine order has a wise sense of timing.

Pluto now tenants Capricorn, Uranus now tenants Aries. The past is already fully built. It must be left where it
belongs. Turn your attention to the stirring new life force. The now is the breeding ground of exceptional opportunity.
Let it grow on you.

Blessings to all,
RoseI would like to ask something about the relationship between Uranus and Pluto (i.e. the relationship between the
individuated unconscious and the Soul).

JWG writes that:


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The Soul contains within itself all the prior life memories from every life it has ever lived. And the Soul has its own identity, or ego.
This identity or ego is not the same as the ego that the Soul creates in any given life on places like Earth. The ego of the Soul is ones
eternal identity

He also writes that:


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Uranus also correlates, in complete detail, to all the memories of this and other lives.
So my first question is whether this ego of the Soul is symbolized by Uranus.

I understand that during its incarnation on Earth, the Soul interacts emotionally with the environment it finds itself in
through the vehicle, the lens, provided by the ego (the Moon). Furthermore, during its incarnation on Earth, the Soul
also needs a human consciousness because it has to adapt to the phenomena of time and space (Saturn) and this
structure of human consciousness (Saturn) might get too rigid for evolution to proceed. Therefore, I see why Uranus
is constantly trying to, in JWGs words, knock on Saturns door so as to shatter conditioning patterns. However, Im
curious about the role player by Uranus in respect to Pluto directly, not necessarily its function in relation to Saturn.

Pluto symbolizes the deepest patterns of emotional security to which people unconsciously gravitate while Uranus
correlates to an area where patterns (including conditioning patterns from a Souls prior lives) must be thrown off to
discover the de-conditioned self. So if both Pluto and Uranus involve leaving behind certain patterns, what is the
relationship between the two? More specifically, what is the relationship between the de-conditioned self and the
Soul? How does the individuated unconscious contribute to the ongoing evolution of a Soul? What part does it play?

I keep thinking that the reason that people gravitate to dynamics symbolized by Pluto lies in the fact that these
dynamics provide them with a sense of security, as they are familiar to the Soul, they are known to the Soul. Yet at
this point in my reasoning the title of JWGs book on Uranus immediately comes to mind: Freedom from the known,
so it appears that we are dealing with several dynamics that are known and familiar, as symbolized by both Pluto
and the patterns that Uranus is trying to shatter.

Furthermore, if: (i) Plutos polarity point symbolizes the dynamics that need to be embraced in order to bring about
the Souls evolution; and (ii) Uranus contains in a blueprint-like way abstract information that relates to one's larger
future, it seems to me that there is some overlapping between them in the sense that they both point to the next steps
in the Souls evolution.

While trying to understand this relationship, it occurred to me that there is a first quarter square between Scorpio (the
Soul) and Aquarius (the de-conditioned self), however I am not sure what this means in this context. Since the
challenge in the first quarter square lies in the fact that one must struggle to establish a concrete form so as to actualize
what has started at the new phase conjunction, could the first quarter square between Scorpio and Aquarius
correspond to the blueprint-like potential that JWG referred to when he talked about Uranus, in the sense that the
structure that has to be achieved is a structure that is free from conditioning patterns? (something similar to Uranus
breaking new ground, laying the foundation for the next steps in evolution, practically paving the way for Pluto).
Can we say that evolution cannot proceed (i.e. Plutos polarity point cannot be actualized) without the proper
structure (i.e. human consciousness - Saturn) in place and the only way for the existing structure to become suitable
for the Souls next evolutionary step is by achieving the Uranus deconditioning?

Finally, although I realize that Pluto (the Soul) is the root cause of everything in the birth chart, including Uranus, I
am not sure how to put it all together. I am sensing that the answers to my questions might also have something to do
with the relationship between the mental body (as symbolized by Uranus and its lower octave, Mercury) and the
emotional body (as symbolized by Pluto and the Moon), but I am not sure if I am correct or how to conceptualize this.

I apologize if my thoughts are rambling, please know that Ive tried to express them as coherently as possible, however
I just realized that as much as I try to do that, they inevitably come out in a typical Uranian fashion.
All the best,
Let's look at the relationship between 4th house and 8th house. 4th house is what we call the ego, the personality. In
reality the ego is created by the Soul as part of its own evolutionary process. Many of us may know the fact that the
ego is not what it appears to be, that its actually a creation of the Soul and can't exist apart from the Soul. Very few of
us live from an emotional reality where we perceive ourselves day to day as the Soul. Even though we know the
intellectual fact we are, we operate emotionally from the reality of the 4th house, as if the ego is an ultimate reality.

The ego of the Soul IS the Soul. It's not anything outside that Soul. Here we look at the relationship between 12th
house and 8th house, to parallel the relationship between 8th and 4th. 12th house is the ultimate reality, the source of
all created realities. The Soul may know that as information, but very few souls on earth live from a consistent
emotional reality of that place, that ultimate oneness. The Soul's emotional reality, sense of self, is rooted in I am this
Soul.

In reality everything is unified and comes from The One - 12th house - and there is no separation between any two
Souls. In actuality Souls experience themselves as separate and distinct from other Souls, even if they also see that all
Souls are one, just as we see ourselves as separate and distinct from all other humans. That is the ego of the Soul - its
sense of Who I Am as distinct from all other Souls.

As far as Uranus, I'd like to highlight a few other Uranian correlations - fracturing, trauma, and integration. One of
the reasons we have such difficulty seeing the totality of this and try to grasp the totality by reassembling the parts is
because of the severe fracturing/fragmentation that has occurred in many many Souls. A major part of the
deconditioning process is realizing one's own fracturing, and going through the ongoing process of re-integrating self.
Its like Humpty Dumpty who had a great fall and fractured into pieces that couldn't be put back together again.
Except they can be put back together over time, step by step. And, the ongoing evolutionary process requires they
must, little by little, over time through self-acceptance and patience. That is why we must decondition, to see the
greater totality of who we are and how we got in the place we now are.

As that process proceeds, one finds the answers to the questions you are asking within self. You do see the parts. As
you said, you don't quite know how to assemble them into a whole. That's because that's not something you do - it
appears in flashes of intuition, of seeing the whole assembled, greater than its parts, beyond what can be be perceived
through left brain analysis.

The value for you in pondering these questions is it keeps them active in your consciousness. That leads to the
inevitable flashes of intuition. Those flashes are signs that the reintegration process is occurring.
No. The ego of the Soul is within itself: the Soul, thus Pluto.

The core role of the archetype of Uranus, relative to the Soul and Pluto, is to quicken or accelerate the evolution
of the Soul itself. The archetype of Uranus correlates to the the memories within the Soul that correlate to it's
prior lifetimes, as well as core blueprint, knowledge, that symbolizes it's evolutionary future when that future is
understood in the context of it's past: Saturn. Thus, each Soul's history and future is unique to itself, yet, at the
same time, all Soul's of course share in the ultimate evolutionary future which is to return HOME to it's origin:
God, Neptune.

The past is always defining the present moment as well as the future itself. The future and the past interface in
each moment in time: the now. The Soul's evolutionary past is thus the determinant of it's own unique moment,
or life. In any given life of the Soul that past is familiar and known, thus secure. This is of course why most Souls
evolve very slowly because that past is a known quantity. To move into any given moment that is completely free
from that past is to create, for most Soul's, a state of complete psychological and emotional insecurity. Thus,
most Soul's desire to stay connected to their past in order to feel psychologically secure and stable. Yet the Soul
must evolve of course. The next step in it's evolution is symbolized by the EA paradigm that is the basis of the
evolutionary journey of the Soul. Uranus correlates with the desire to quicken the evolutionary journey of the
Soul, to accelerate it: 'to be free from the known'.

To be free from the known is to emotionally and psychologically detach from the totality of all the lives that the
Soul has lived which have brought it to it's current lifetime. In this detachment the Soul is then able to observe
itself in such a way as to be able to objectify all the inner dynamics within it that have been responsible for all
that it has ever been and done. This objectification thus allows for a total knowledge of the Soul itself in such a
way that the Soul by way of Uranus can then be free of that past because of the objectified knowledge of it. In
this consciousness of detachment the Soul is then able by way of Uranus to determine what desires exist within it
that it must act upon, desires to act upon, and the desires within it that no longer need to be acted upon: to
liberate from them in this way.
n this way the Soul is thus able to quicken or accelerate it's evolution because it is no longer being conditioned by
it's past to the extent that that past is holding the Soul back from actualizing it's next steps in evolution in the
fastest or quickest way possible. The polarity point of Pluto in any chart will be actualized to some extent by all
Souls. Most Souls as JWG taught only make the most minimal efforts to do so because of the pull of their past:
the familiar and the known. The natural first quarter square from the 8th and Scorpio to the 11th and Aquarius
that you asked about thus correlates to the 'crisis in action' relative to what paths to follow that allow for the
quickest possible way for the Soul to evolve.

God Bless, Rad


Serban, thanks for your question. And Rad and Steve, thanks for your answers.

Rad, I just wanted to clarify something. So, when looking at an individual chart, you would be looking at the square
between Pluto and whatever is in a 1st quarter square to it to determine the quickest possible way? Or would you be
looking at Pluto in the chart and Uranus in the chart, regardless of where they are, and thinking in terms of that
intrinsic 1st quarter square?
"Rad, I just wanted to clarify something. So, when looking at an individual chart, you would be looking at the square
between Pluto and whatever is in a 1st quarter square to it to determine the quickest possible way? Or would you be
looking at Pluto in the chart and Uranus in the chart, regardless of where they are, and thinking in terms of that
intrinsic 1st quarter square?"

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No to this. What I was answering was Serban's questions about the archetypal relationship between the 8th
House, and the 11th House, the natural first quarter square between Scorpio and Aquarius, thus the planetary
rulers of these two signs. In essence, there is they natural dynamic tension within the structural nature of
consciousness for all Souls on this Earth.
Hi everyone,
I feel this may be helpful to add as well. From JWG's transcript course page 67, describing the planetary correlations
to the root chakra:

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Tripple rulership, three layers. The outer layer correlates with Saturn, the middle layer with Uranus, and the nucleus
with Pluto. Now most people think somehow that the root charka and/or Kundalini is specifically linked with
sexuality. This is a false thought. Kundalini has no specific relationship to sexuality. What you have here is the
situation where, because the nucleus is Pluto, we correlate this with the specific action of Kundalini. However, the
outer layer of this chakra is Saturn, and that means the ignition of kundalini is latent in most people. Why? They are
living, Saturn, in a consensus state, which in and of itself, psychologically speaking, prohibits the ignition of Kundalini.
So the Kundalini gland, which is just on the other side of this chakra, remains latent or dormant, Saturn, in most.

Now when that is the fact, this glad remains locked, retentive, This chakra specifically then correlates to the quality
and condition of the lower extremities, the function of the nerves, the muscles, the circulation patterns, and also the
quality and function of the anal canal. For example, in cultures like this (saturn being the outer layer, or ruler), people
typically develop hemorrhoids. Now why does that occur? Because there is not a free flow of movement of feces, and
the person has to create internalized pressure to eliminate, which becomes the causal factor in hemorrhoids. How does
this connect to the idea of Saturn? You see how this is working!

When the soul decides to make a conscious act to evolve, that is to move away from the consensus, right then and
there, the middle layer, Uranus is stimulated, meaning liberation from the consensus. And on that basis, this
chakra begins to quicken, Uranus, meaning it is beginning to vibrate differently. This now becomes analogous to
fissure lines in the crust of the earth. And what is coming through these fissure lines? Possibly lava. Lava here
correaltes with Kundalini. Meaning, as this chakra begins to quicken and vibrate differently, it is the quickening
and vibrational action that causes the Kundalini to be ignited.

And when kunalini is ignited, it can crate any manner of physical symptoms that cannot be diagnosed by any
allopathic doctor. Why? The initial intention of Kundalini is to penetrate (Pluto) to the nucleus of every cell that needs
to be either healed or alchemically changed. In the context of purging toxins, for example, from the nucleus of the cell,
relative to Kundalini, the typical symptomology is either feeling intense heat in that area, or intense cold, for no
apparant reason. In extreme cases, it will create transitory paralysis in those areas. Kundalini is a remarkable
physiological substance.

So his teachings here beautifully signify the relationship between the Aquarius and Pluto archetype. As the soul
liberates from the total conditioning factors that have been dormant within the soul's consciousness, from all prior life
times, the psychological space is then created, for an actual transmutation of consciousness. This ignites and
accelerates the evolutionary process to occur.

I think this may be the reason why I observe and often recommend people who have strong Aquarius/Scorpio themes
in their chart to explore kundalini yoga and such practices.
With love,
Ari Moshe"Rad, I just wanted to clarify something. So, when looking at an individual chart, you would be looking at
the square between Pluto and whatever is in a 1st quarter square to it to determine the quickest possible way? Or
would you be looking at Pluto in the chart and Uranus in the chart, regardless of where they are, and thinking in
terms of that intrinsic 1st quarter square?"

No to this. What I was answering was Serban's questions about the archetypal relationship between the 8th
House, and the 11th House, the natural first quarter square between Scorpio and Aquarius, thus the planetary
rulers of these two signs. In essence, there is they natural dynamic tension within the structural nature of
consciousness for all Souls on this Earth.
hank you for clarifying. Just to follow up with one further question, is there then any usefulness to looking at the
relationship between the rulers of the 8th and 11th with regard to gleaning any information about the nature of this
crisis in action? Or were you talking strictly in terms of the natural square between the 8th/11th and Pluto/Uranus...?
My question is about the phasal relationship between the Pluto/Uranus conjunctions which occurred in Virgo, and
how they relate to the Mars/Pluto phases. My understanding is that the Mars/Pluto phase will determine how many
prior lives a soul has been working on the entire dynamics symbolized by the chart, prior to this lifetime. I'm not
entirely sure how to interpret the phasal relationships of planets other than Mars with Pluto when determining how
many lives a soul has been working on that particular dynamic; for example the Pluto/Uranus conjunction. For an
individual with the Pluto/Uranus in a balsamic conjunction, clearly the soul has been deconditioning for many many
lives and is culminating an entire cycle. How then would that play out with a soul that has Mars in a new phase
conjunction with Pluto? For example, Uranus at 13 degrees, Pluto at 15 degrees, and Mars at 17 degrees. The new
phase Pluto/Mars would symbolize that the whole chart dynamics are entirely new, yet the Pluto/Uranus is balsamic.
I'm assuming that the Pluto/Uranus would have played out in prior lives, yet if the whole chart dynamics as
symbolized by the Mars/Pluto are entirely new; in what context is the Pluto/Uranus then interpreted?
I am also curious how this plays out the other way around, for example if the Pluto/Uranus conjunction is a new
phase, yet the Mars/Pluto conjunction is balsamic. The Mars/Pluto will signify that this is the 8th and final primary life
that the soul has been working on the entire dynamics of the chart. Yet, if the Pluto/Uranus conjunction is a new
phase, what does this mean? Does it mean that the soul will be acting out the Pluto/Uranus conjunction in this life
only (new phase), and that it was not active, and therefore, not to be interpreted, as part of prior lives
You are mixing apples and oranges. When JWG taught this about the Mars/Pluto relationship this was all about the
personal evolution of the Soul. The relationship of Uranus and Pluto is a generational one. It does have a personal
application in that the phase correlates to a variety of Uranian dynamics and archetypes that the Soul has been using
for it's ongoing evolutionary purposes that is then linked or understood in the context of the core EA paradigm, and
how that core paradigm has been manifesting relative to the phase of Mars and Pluto.

God Bless, Radi everybody,

I have an additional question with respect to the role played by Saturn in the context we are discussing here. In order
to accelerate the Souls evolution, one must be free from what is known and familiar to the Soul, in the sense that one
must detach, i.e. take a step back from oneself and objectively identify the patterns which are in operation in order to
become free from them. That is how liberation must occur and such liberation enables an acceleration of the evolution
of the Soul itself.

But if Uranus correlates to deconditioning, to becoming free from the known, what is the known symbolized by:
the house and sign position of Saturn or the house and sign position of Uranus
Let's take Uranus in the 4th for example. In this case, liberation - freedom from the known - occurs by taking a step
back from oneself and realizing that one is seeking inner security in external circumstances and in that state of
detachment becoming progressively free from such an approach (such an approach correlates with a distorted
expression of the 4th house archetype). So it seems that Uranus placement points to how liberation is achieved, to
what form the deconditioning process must take, but it also necessarily points to the patterns themselves. So how
should we factor in Saturn in such a scenario? What type of information would Saturns placement bring in such a
case since apparently Uranus' position alone tells us what the problem is (one is seeking inner security in external
circumstances) and how to address it (to discover inner security in the only manner in which it can truly be found, i.e.
within)? Would Saturn by house and sign show us for instance what type of external circumstances the Soul would
seek security in (e.g. in relationships, in positions of authority, in material possessions etc)?
As far as the ego of the Soul is concerned, I seem to have focused too much on the fact that the ego must align with the
Soul that I somehow lost sight of the fact that the Soul itself is in a continuous process of evolution, of reuniting with
the Source that created it. The way I viewed things, the ego represented a limited perception of reality, an illusion of
separateness, whereas the Soul was equivalent to an all-encompassing perception of the unity of all creation. However,
this is the final destination of a Souls evolution, not its current evolutionary state and I thank you for pointing that
out so clearly.

As far as trauma is concerned, am I correct in believing that no matter how absurd, tragic or devastating it may appear
to the ego, no matter how severe its consequences may be, trauma is brought about by evolutionary necessity and is
rooted in the Souls desire to evolve? In other words, trauma would not be necessary if the resistance to the
evolutionary pressure wasnt so great. What Im trying to say is that there are no accidents as far as trauma is
concerned and that the causes for the occurrence of trauma are to be found in the choices made by each Soul with
respect to its evolutionary journey.

Thank you once again for taking the time to share your insights with me!
reedom From the Known relative to Uranus correlates with the existing totality of any given's Soul reality: the entire
past leading the the present life. It is a natural instinct, thus desire, within all of our Soul's. As such it is operative in
all Soul's all the time. This is symbolized by Uranus.

The totality of the Soul's reality, past and present, is of course Pluto itself.

Saturn correlates to the necessary structural reality of the Soul's consciousness in any given life where the nature of
that structured consciousness is necessary so as to define the evolutionary impulse of the Soul from life to life in such a
way that the Soul can then define the ongoing evolutionary impulse for itself in TIME. Thus, this structural definition
of the evolutionary impulse by Saturn allows the Soul to integrate it in the context of the type of 'realities' that are
necessary for that impulse to manifest in the way that the Soul so intends.

The reality that the Soul thus creates relative to Saturn correlates with sequential lifetimes that all live: from life to life.
And each life that the Soul creates through Saturn of course is given a subjective ego, Moon, the natural polarity of
Saturn, so that the Soul can then focus itself as a subjective identity in each of these lives.

All of these lives in total, and as they are added too, correlates with the 'known' because they have been lived. Uranus
is the archetype within our consciousness that desires to be 'free from the known': to liberate from it. It is this
archetypal desire, impulse, that then leads to Neptune and the root desire in all our Souls, Pluto, to go Home: to
return back to the Origins Of All Things.

All of this correlates to the inherent structure of consciousness in human form that we all share. Where Uranus is
located by sign and house in any given chart, in any given life, correlates, among other things, to where, how, and why
the 'quickening' evolutionary impulse that is rooted in the ultimate archetype of 'freedom from the known' is intended
to manifest in any given life designed by the Soul itself. And this natural quickening impulse of course has it's
CONTEXT, the reasons for it, in all the lives that have preceded the current life.

It is that preexisting context that thus correlates with the desire to 'be free from the known' where that known is the
preexisting context itself. So, in essence, Uranus correlates with not only the ultimate impulse to be free, to go home to
our Maker, but also the desire and impulse to accelerate our evolution in any given life relative to the preexisting
context as defined or symbolized by the natal placement by house and sign of Uranus in any given life.
Yes. A simple example: Neptune would correlate to unconditional love, whereas Venus would or can correlate to
conditional love and the reasons for that conditional love.

topic: planetary octaves and chakra correlations

want to clarify my understanding of this.


Neptune is the higher octave of Venus. Venus corresponds to the heart chakra. My intuition is that this does not mean
that Neptune correlates to the heart chakra itself, but rather that the heart chakra and the crown have some sort of
octave resonance to one another which is the manifestation of Source unity consciousness through the more dense,
interpersonal feeling center of the heart. Thank you,
Ari Mosh
Thank you Rad.
I see a similar connection between the root chakra as it relates to Pluto and the third chakra as it relates to Mars and
Pluto. That relationship is pretty clear as it relates to the translation of Soul desire to conscious desire.

I would like to check what I understand about the connection between Mercury and Uranus, the throat and root
chakra:
Within consciousness, Mercury correlates to the faculty of perception, how an individual soul will perceive and
organize phenomenal reality. Uranus correlates to the faculty of higher thought which symbolizes a liberatiion from
the total conditioning of the past; thus perceiving in a clear way. This clear sight has the effect of igniting the
movement of kundalini (Pluto Uranus relationship).

For most souls, perception (Mercury) is limited by conditioning (Mercury relative to Saturn). However, when
perception is deconditioned (Mercury relative to Uranus), meaning the mind is now free, the kundalini process begins.

So we can say that Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury in that when the perceptions of the mind are not
conditioned by the past, the kundalini process is ignited (Root chakra through Uranus as the higher octave of the
throat chakra).

Thank you Rad.


I see a similar connection between the root chakra as it relates to Pluto and the third chakra as it relates to Mars and
Pluto. That relationship is pretty clear as it relates to the translation of Soul desire to conscious desire.

I would like to check what I understand about the connection between Mercury and Uranus, the throat and root
chakra:
Within consciousness, Mercury correlates to the faculty of perception, how an individual soul will perceive and
organize phenomenal reality. Uranus correlates to the faculty of higher thought which symbolizes a liberatiion from
the total conditioning of the past; thus perceiving in a clear way. This clear sight has the effect of igniting the
movement of kundalini (Pluto Uranus relationship).

For most souls, perception (Mercury) is limited by conditioning (Mercury relative to Saturn). However, when
perception is deconditioned (Mercury relative to Uranus), meaning the mind is now free, the kundalini process begins.

So we can say that Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury in that when the perceptions of the mind are not
conditioned by the past, the kundalini process is ignited (Root chakra through Uranus as the higher octave of the
throat chakra).

Hi Ari,

The phenomena of perception correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. The Soul perceives the nature of
phenomenal reality and then begins to give names and classifications to the nature of that phenomenal reality.
Phenomenal reality is Jupiter which co-rules the sacral chakra with Neptune. The interpretation, Jupiter. of that
phenomenal reality, Jupiter that is perceived by the Soul, Pluto, is thus given order by way of organized linear
thought that connects all the different shapes, forms, and the totality of the manifested Creation into a logical system of
thought that is interconnected so as to make the Soul feel secure. Mercury is the natural polarity of Jupiter wherein
lies the logical ordering of thoughts that correlate with the perception upon the nature of phenomenal reality.

This then becomes the basis of all kinds of ways to organize phenomenal reality relative to the interpretation of what
the phenomenal reality means. Thus the basis of that which is inherently true, Jupiter co-ruling with Neptune relative
to the sacral chakra, and that which is not: delusive in nature. The Soul is given the God created right to perceive the
nature of the phenomenal reality in any way that is so desires which includes knowing the truth, Jupiter/Neptune, of
the manifested Creation.

With Uranus co-ruling the root chakra with Pluto, at it's core, then Uranus, then Saturn on the outer layer, the Soul
through evolutionary necessity will liberate, Uranus, from any perception of reality, the manifested Creation, that is
not intrinsically rooted in the actual truth of that manifested Creation.

Desires, Pluto, are of course the determinant through which the Soul chooses how to perceive the nature of anything,
including the nature of the phenomenal manifested Creation. This includes the truth of one's own being, the truth of
one's own Soul, at any moment in time. Mercury symbolizes and correlates to nature of the conscious thoughts that
the Soul has, and why. It correlates to how the Soul is 'thinking' about anything, and why. It correlates to how the
Soul is mentally organizing the nature of it's own phenomenal reality in any given life relative to it's own unique,
individual, evolutionary journey through time: Pluto combined with Saturn.

Thus, as the Soul desires to 'liberate', Uranus, from all temporal and finite forms of understanding itself, and the
nature of the manifested Creation, this liberation will lead to that which is timeless, that which is the inherent truth of
the manifested Creation set in motion by the Creator. In turn, this will correlate to the Soul's desire to understand it's
own inherent nature as Created by it's Creator. As this liberation unfolds, evolves, the Soul will now shift it's center of
gravity, Saturn, from the ego, Moon, it creates in each life, to the Soul itself. In so doing the Soul then realizes it's
individual Creation within the totality of all that has been Created: it has realized it's timeless self that is not
conditioned, Saturn, by anything other that the inherent truth of the phenomenal Creation, and the inherent truth of
it's own unique Soul.

This progressive evolution is thus manifested through Mercury by way of the thoughts that exist within the
consciousness of the Soul, and how those thoughts are related or communicated to anyone. Thus, it is the evolution
taking place within the root chakra that it then reflected in the orientation of all the other chakras including the throat
chakra: Mercury and Jupiter.
The phenomena of perception correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. The Soul perceives the nature of
phenomenal reality and then begins to give names and classifications to the nature of that phenomenal reality.
Perceiving the inherent truth of anything would be Pluto. Perception is different than interpretation. Interpretation
will occur relative to the nature of perception of the soul. IE, the soul will interpret reality according to the nature of
its desires: Jupiter through the bottom line, Pluto. Mercury then translates the interpretation of phenomenal reality in
a way that produces mental continuity and clarity. It is even more of a dense and differentiated function than Jupiter.

Quote
Phenomenal reality is Jupiter which co-rules the sacral chakra with Neptune. The interpretation, Jupiter. of that
phenomenal reality, Jupiter that is perceived by the Soul, Pluto, is thus given order by way of organized linear
thought that connects all the different shapes, forms, and the totality of the manifested Creation into a logical system of
thought that is interconnected so as to make the Soul feel secure. Mercury is the natural polarity of Jupiter wherein
lies the logical ordering of thoughts that correlate with the perception upon the nature of phenomenal reality.

And you once wrote to Gonzalo:


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Pisces does correlate with the totality of Creation that includes the manifested = known, and the unmanifested =
unknown. Sagittarius correlates with the natural laws within the manifested Creation that can be understood by the
Soul in human form as well of knowing what can not be known: the unmanifested.

So is it accurate to say that both Jupiter and Neptune correlate to phenomenal reality, with Neptune also correlating
to that which is not contained within phenomenal reality; that which is unmanifest and thus cannot be understood?

Quote
Thus, as the Soul desires to 'liberate', Uranus, from all temporal and finite forms of understanding itself, and the
nature of the manifested Creation, this liberation will lead to that which is timeless, that which is the inherent truth of
the manifested Creation set in motion by the Creator. In turn, this will correlate to the Soul's desire to understand it's
own inherent nature as Created by it's Creator. As this liberation unfolds, evolves, the Soul will now shift it's center of
gravity, Saturn, from the ego, Moon, it creates in each life, to the Soul itself. In so doing the Soul then realizes it's
individual Creation within the totality of all that has been Created: it has realized it's timeless self that is not
conditioned, Saturn, by anything other that the inherent truth of the phenomenal Creation, and the inherent truth of
it's own unique Soul.

This progressive evolution is thus manifested through Mercury by way of the thoughts that exist within the
consciousness of the Soul, and how those thoughts are related or communicated to anyone. Thus, it is the evolution
taking place within the root chakra that it then reflected in the orientation of all the other chakras including the throat
chakra: Mercury and Jupiter.

So I'm gaining a deeper understanding of Mercury through this. The way we are able to talk about and relate the
nature of phenomenal reality is at the core based upon the nature of how the soul will perceive phenomenal reality...
perception itself being determined by the nature of the soul's desire. So the 5th chakra, as it relates to the Mercury
function, will express the level of evolution of the soul by way of how the soul will communicate, piece together and
relate its understanding of phenomenal reality.

Final question - you seemed to imply above that Mercury and Jupiter relates to the throat chakra (the last part of the
above quote) is this because Mercury is the linear expression and articulation of the natural laws that can be known
by the soul (Jupiter)?
The phenomena of perception correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. The Soul perceives the nature of
phenomenal reality and then begins to give names and classifications to the nature of that phenomenal reality.

Perceiving the inherent truth of anything would be Pluto. Perception is different than interpretation. Interpretation
will occur relative to the nature of perception of the soul. IE, the soul will interpret reality according to the nature of
its desires: Jupiter through the bottom line, Pluto. Mercury then translates the interpretation of phenomenal reality in
a way that produces mental continuity and clarity. It is even more of a dense and differentiated function than Jupiter.

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The inherent function of Mercury is not more dense or differentiated than any other archetypal of any of the
planets.

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Phenomenal reality is Jupiter which co-rules the sacral chakra with Neptune. The interpretation, Jupiter. of that
phenomenal reality, Jupiter that is perceived by the Soul, Pluto, is thus given order by way of organized linear
thought that connects all the different shapes, forms, and the totality of the manifested Creation into a logical system of
thought that is interconnected so as to make the Soul feel secure. Mercury is the natural polarity of Jupiter wherein
lies the logical ordering of thoughts that correlate with the perception upon the nature of phenomenal reality.

And you once wrote to Gonzalo:


Quote
Pisces does correlate with the totality of Creation that includes the manifested = known, and the unmanifested =
unknown. Sagittarius correlates with the natural laws within the manifested Creation that can be understood by the
Soul in human form as well of knowing what can not be known: the unmanifested.

So is it accurate to say that both Jupiter and Neptune correlate to phenomenal reality, with Neptune also correlating
to that which is not contained within phenomenal reality; that which is unmanifest and thus cannot be understood?

************************

Yes ...........

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Quote
Thus, as the Soul desires to 'liberate', Uranus, from all temporal and finite forms of understanding itself, and the
nature of the manifested Creation, this liberation will lead to that which is timeless, that which is the inherent truth of
the manifested Creation set in motion by the Creator. In turn, this will correlate to the Soul's desire to understand it's
own inherent nature as Created by it's Creator. As this liberation unfolds, evolves, the Soul will now shift it's center of
gravity, Saturn, from the ego, Moon, it creates in each life, to the Soul itself. In so doing the Soul then realizes it's
individual Creation within the totality of all that has been Created: it has realized it's timeless self that is not
conditioned, Saturn, by anything other that the inherent truth of the phenomenal Creation, and the inherent truth of
it's own unique Soul.

This progressive evolution is thus manifested through Mercury by way of the thoughts that exist within the
consciousness of the Soul, and how those thoughts are related or communicated to anyone. Thus, it is the evolution
taking place within the root chakra that it then reflected in the orientation of all the other chakras including the throat
chakra: Mercury and Jupiter.

So I'm gaining a deeper understanding of Mercury through this. The way we are able to talk about and relate the
nature of phenomenal reality is at the core based upon the nature of how the soul will perceive phenomenal reality...
perception itself being determined by the nature of the soul's desire. So the 5th chakra, as it relates to the Mercury
function, will express the level of evolution of the soul by way of how the soul will communicate, piece together and
relate its understanding of phenomenal reality.

Final question - you seemed to imply above that Mercury and Jupiter relates to the throat chakra (the last part of the
above quote) is this because Mercury is the linear expression and articulation of the natural laws that can be known
by the soul (Jupiter)?
synchronicity

I'm looking at an individual's chart at present and have been asked to examine the area of "synchronicity." This
person is having these experiences which he calls "synchromysticism" a lot of the time. He is trying to explore
different connections and coincidences and create a bigger picture out of them based upon his own interpretation. On
examining some of the evidence that he's provided, it's actually quite incredible what is happening to him, as it seems
to be out of the ordinary. I'm also very fascinated with his chart.

I need to explore the chart and hopefully try to make some sense out of his experiences, or at least try to find "why"
these types of experiences are happening all the time and "where" they are generated from. I think he has a very
interesting chart: the ruler of the SN, Mercury Leo 8th, is trine the ruler of the NN, Neptune Sag 12th. Natal Pluto
Libra 10th conj MC. Uranus Scorpio 11th. Pallas Sag 12th.....and more.

Some examples of synchronicity that I would like to explore: meaningful coincidences; telepathic links; portents into
the future; signs from an intelligent universe; evidence of quantum entanglement; how things are connected in
incredible ways.

I'm asking for his permission to post his chart. Please let me know if it is okay to post his chart in order to get some
feedback from anyone who is interested in this topic.

What astrology signs, planets, asteroids or houses would correlate to synchronicity? I'm thinking it must be Mercury,
Neptune, Jupiter, Uranus?? I would really appreciate receiving any of your ideas or advice Rad, or from anyone else
who's interested in this topic.
Hi Linda,

Sure go ahead and post if you wish. Synchronicity correlates with Jupiter, Sagittarius, and the 9th House.

God Bless, Rad


ucifer: 0.48 deg Aquarius 2nd house Natural Lilith: 2.07 deg Gemini 6th house

Christopher Hunter Myers is known in different circles as Mercurys Messenger, and hosts four blogs. He enjoys
the pursuit of knowledge, and spends most of his free time learning about the multiverse that surrounds (and some-
times revolves around) him, everything from contacting the spirits of the dead to quantum physics. He is a part-time
actor currently on hiatus to raise his two sons. He resides in his hometown of Baltimore, Maryland. He has
contributed, as co-author, a chapter in "The Sync Book" featuring 26 authors sharing their experiences and
perspectives on synchronicity and the strange and beautiful universe in which we live.

Evolutionary state

After conversing with Christopher today, I would place him in the early stages of the 1st stage Spiritual evolutionary
condition.

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Christopher's Quote: There are two quotes I love.... I live the First one but try to always get to being the second
one....

"Don't look for help in a study of history, nor among people -- they'll let you down every time. Look for it in yourself. Live in this world
without being of it." ~ The Morning of the Magicians

"The point is not to separate the opposites and make "positive progress," but rather to unify and harmonize the opposites, both positive
and negative, by discovering a ground which transcends and encompasses them both. And that ground, as we will soon see, is unity
consciousness itself." ~ Ken Wilbur

Basic history, social conditioning, cultural context, and background information

Quote: "Grew up in Baltimore, have never left. This is my center. I have never even been to NY yet in my life. I am a
homebody/Hermit. I used to be social and have a tons of friends and my main friends left me in 1998 and I have been a
loner ever since. I am very very social, but for some reason (cause I speak my mind) I wind up rubbing people the
wrong way.

"My family was poor to middle class growing up here in Baltimore. I went to a Methodist Church with my
grandmother till I was about 16 or so.... Became an "atheist/evolutionist" at like the age 17/18.... Started worshiping
the Sun at age 22/23 or so.... Then I became Agnostic and wasn't into politics at all, just anti-war and very heavy into
Gandhi... At the age 24 I got involved in politics more so American politics... I believed in a strong republic with a
democracy.... wound up changing that when I was around 29 when I started to see the communistic roots in
Democracy... I was and am very anti-Communist, Socialist, Democratic.... I got heavy into the occult and more so
Aleister Crowley when I turned 30.... Started contacting Spirits with Magick.

"At this point I don't believe in hope. I don't really care what happens to the world or humans and am more and more
into Chaos via illiteracy (99% of people in the world).... I care about people and EVERYTHING (Stars, Aliens,
Planets etc...) very much so in the abstract sense and like to think that I will have a big part to play in the next
world??? But I don't really stress about peoples opinions of anything including myself anymore....

"Synchronicity for me goes way beyond Carl Jungs definition of synchronicity: the experience of two or more events
that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance and are observed to occur together in a
meaningful manner. The first profound experience I had with synchronicity was back in 1996, I was 18 and high as a
kite reading the Bible in my bedroom. The Steve Miller Band song 'Fly Like an Eagle' came on the radio just as I was
reading a passage about an eagle. Stuff like this happened to me a lot as a kid, but this time synchronicity was a little
more punctual, as my mom came in the room with a letter that had come in the mail from a 'Brother' at the church I
attended. I opened it up and there was an eagle flying on the front of the card."

Definitions of Synchronicity from Wikipedia:

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur
together by chance and that are observed to occur together in a meaningful manner. The concept of synchronicity was
first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s.

The concept does not question, or compete with, the notion of causality. Instead it maintains that, just as events may
be grouped by cause, they may also be grouped by meaning. A grouping of events by meaning need not have an
explanation in terms of cause and effect.

From the religious perspective synchronicity shares similar characteristics of an intervention of grace. Jung
believed that synchronicity served a similar role in a person's life to dreams with the purpose of shifting a person's
egocentric conscious thinking to greater wholeness. It has been asserted that Jung's analytical psychological theory of
synchronicity is equal to intellectual intuition.

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Examination of Christophers core EA dynamics

Christophers evolutionary condition is 3rd stage Individuated, moving toward 1st stage Spiritual. With natal Pluto in
Libra in the 10th house conjunct the Midheaven, he has been sharing, comparing and evaluating information with a
wide variety of people partners, friends, colleagues, celebrities, politicians, actors, artists, bloggers, internet
personalities, strangers in order to develop his own individuality and to bring equality and balance to his
relationships. He has been learning lessons in self-determination, social and emotional maturity, adhering to a high
standard of conduct in society, and actualizing a social role. This formula has been operating for about 7 primary
lives. His South Node 29.31 deg Pisces in the 3rd house correlates to the collection of facts, data, information and raw
material from the environment, also the categorization and classification of this data, in a cycle that is culminating,
with a new cycle just on the horizon.

Christophers synchronicity experiences number in the hundreds, and hes adding to his collection regularly. Not all
of the information that he is collecting is strictly regarding synchronicity, but other interesting, weird, unusual, hidden
or occult items correlating to his South Node in Pisces in the 3rd house.

The ruler of his South Node, Neptune in Sag in the 12th house, acts as the facilitator of a conscious desire to collect
these vast amounts of data of an unusual or cutting edge nature, and a need to seek out and realize beliefs or
knowledge that transcend culturally based values. As Ari said, this could be seen as an exaggeration of his findings
which would result in egocentricities being dissolved. Pluto in the 10th and Mercury (ruler of NN) in the 8th, could
breed resistance to the process of surrendering to Source. Or it could mean that he is already surrendering to Source
but this is an ongoing journey for his Soul toward Source. It is likely that he is learning lessons in humility,
discernment and surrender in this regard. His project could be an attempt to feel in control of his life, or to induce a
sense of individuality against feeling unintegrated and diffused.

In certain cases, these individuals have been, or can become, powerful icons because
of the power expressed or projected through that one aspect or dimension of
themselves. Some have or will exhibit a larger-than-life aura or impact on
others. Through the power of their belief in who they are, and what they
are doing, they have the ability to captivate the interest, imagination,
support or persecution of mass consciousness.
Pluto Vol. I, p.217 (12th house or Pisces)

The compulsion to collect this sheer volume of data has been a prior Soul evolutionary intention that would naturally
lead to the advancement of his Soul intention in the current life, that is, the development of his full individuality and
emotional self-security (see PPP below) via the building of a philosophical belief system based on self-analysis, ego-
humiliation, Natural Law (NN Virgo 9th ruled by Mercury Leo 8th), and the expansion of his intellectual structures.
With ruler of SN, Neptune in Sag in the 12th house, there are no boundaries: the whole universe is there to explore.
This also pertains to his inner universe, his higher mind, and Higher Self. Sag is the sign of exploration, the
traveler, who is forever seeking greater horizons and making wider and wider connections. The quest is to understand
life and oneself in a cosmological, metaphysical, philosophical or religious context. Neptune conjunct the South Node
of Uranus gives us more information regarding the egocentric structures that his Soul had created. In the distant past
the types of data collected were classified as extraordinary, different, unusual, bizarre, paranormal, occult: the
mysteries of life. There had possibly been an element of secrecy, self-delusion or mental confusion in his
undertakings.

He had attributed a special meaning or significance to the experiences and discoveries that served to open his inner
feminine world (Neptune conj Vesta/Pallas and SN Ceres). He never ceased to be in wonderment and amazement in
his pursuance of dissolving all barriers in order to merge his individual power with the cosmic whole. He kept
meticulous records of his findings (NN Virgo). His Soul had been desirous of balancing the feminine aspects within
his psyche, by moving away from the extremities of patriarchal distortions (10th house Pluto). In his search for truth
and knowledge, he developed natural compassion and nurturance for himself and for others, thus moving away from
the patriarchy (PPP 4th).

However, because he could not prove his findings, he was branded as sacrilegious and suffered persecution and
judgment by the consensus society at large. Deviating away from societal norms (3rd stage Individuated), he wished
to move society along a new path of discovery and awakening, but due to his sensitive nature, the disapproval left
him feeling disillusioned and estranged from society, thus moving him closer to the 1st stage Spiritual evolutionary
condition, and catapulting him toward the PPP 4th to learn emotional self-security. These overwhelming past life
experiences had lead to mental trauma (SN Uranus conj Neptune), spiritual disillusionment (Neptune) and alienation
from society (Sag).

Continuing in his search for truth and meaning via the collection of a vast array of information to which he had
attributed a special meaning or significance, resulted in suffering massive disillusionment when the material did not
live up to his beliefs. Of course, the sense of meaninglessness then lead to further efforts in searching for material that
would provide meaning, truth or value for his Soul. His research into the paranormal had defied the logic and reason
as defined by his Pluto 10th reality, therefore he was liberating and transforming himself from those past-life
constraints (Uranus Scorpio 11th).

Christopher mentioned that he lost all his friends in the 90s. This could have been created by his Soul for the purpose
of liberating from over-dependency upon others, in order to fulfill his current life Soul purpose: the development of
his full individuality, emotional self-security, and finding friends on an instinctual basis who would resonate with his
Soul (PPP Aries 4th). The PPP (future direction) means following a new path in a completely unplanned and
spontaneous way, by following his instincts, impulses, desires and magnetic attractions to others that will lead to the
re-identification of his self-image and a strengthening of his emotional security structures. This would bring a
balancing of discordant aspects within himself by meeting his own emotional needs within relationships.

He may have felt blocked by society to fulfill a social purpose (Venus ruler of MC conj Saturn), and the imbalances in
friendships would have progressively lead to tuning into his inner world (PPP 4th) to find that emotional self-security
from within himself, by progressively cutting down his dependency upon others for a sense of who he is and what
social role he should play. His new relationships would allow the instinctive expression of feminine aspects within
his psyche and the intelligence that naturally comes from that (South Nodes of Pallas and Juno conjunct PPP) this
could also mean playing a nurturing role in a family situation. The transformation of his self-image would encompass
the building of a philosophical belief structure (NN Virgo 9th) based on a process of self-analysis that would deflate
the balloon of egocentricity and bring about self-improvement, humility, and a redefined social role in society, with a
purpose that would be needed by society.

This new development would be facilitated by Mercury Leo 8th, by a process of metamorphosis of his intellectual
structure whereby old information would be discarded in order to bring in new information, resulting in the expansion
of his intellectual framework. With Mercury conjunct the Moon (conj NN of Neptune, and SN of Mercury), his Soul
has been working on this area for a long time. His Moon conj Mercury is sufficiently pure in its positive aspects,
expressed in the nurturing role he plays in his family. He has been merging with symbols of intellectual and spiritual
power in order to overcome his limitations and to give him a sense of more power. With Mercury there is constant
movement, with information constantly coming in, and old information being discarded to make way for the new. He
has placed himself at the top of a pyramid structure which will cyclically be toppled by his own egoic self-humiliation
through a process of honest inner assessment which will lead to positive change.

Pluto makes an interesting sextile-sextile-trine pattern in the water houses with Neptune (ruler of his SN) and
Mercury (ruler of his NN). On the other side, the PPP forms a grand trine with Neptune (ruler of SN) and Mercury
(ruler of NN). This means that the transition from the past into the present is carried out quite easily, and brings
evolution through the water element. He is able to co-operate with the evolutionary forces by changing past
behaviour patterns into new patterns of growth. However, this grand trine could also mean a resistance to change.

So why is Christopher having these regular synchronicity experiences?

Is his Soul creating these experiences for evolutionary reasons?

If so, then why synchronicity?

What Soul purpose lies behind all of this?

Christophers interest in synchronicity (correlating to Jupiter, Sag, and the 9th house) goes back to his teens when
he experienced a dramatic synchronicity episode. Since then, hes been on a mission to explore and record this
phenomena which seems to be operating frequently in his life, culminating in his contribution among 26 authors to the
book, The Sync Book. Jupiter Cancer 7th conj Sun is a sharing of his philosophies and beliefs with a variety of
people, and a tendency for emotional entanglement with others. His Sun (current life purpose) and Jupiter
(correlating to synchronicity) are both inconjunct Neptune, the ruler of his South Node, an aspect that induces
humility through crisis situations. Venus Leo 8th correlating with pre-existing relationship patterns describes an
inclination to make the partner the very centre of his universe, osmosing power from others, and domination/
submission issues. Crisis situations in his relationships (and this also includes his relationship to the Divine) would
induce humility by a willingness to surrender so that larger forces can manifest through his actions, purpose and
relationship dynamics.

The theme of self-analysis, self-improvement, humility and service is re-emphasized with Virgo ruling the 9th house.
Synchronistic or other unusual experiences would be put through a filter of discernment, wisdom and Natural Law in
order to present honest findings. With Mercury ruler of the NN and the 9th house, there would be careful attention to
detail in the chronicling of his findings.
Sag in the 12th is a search for the natural god. However, having the ruler of his SN, Neptune, in the 12th house, he
could be prone to delusive thinking that will always end is disillusionment. This process leads to discrimination and
discernment of information, as he asks What is real? What is the truth? He will discover that synchronicity is
part of Natural Law and is not an illusion. Some might say that the Universe is speaking to him, and that synchs can
only happen naturally. Synchronicities can point to a larger meaning that underlies life, as a symbolic way of
perceiving the universe that regards all phenomena as interwoven by linked analogies or correspondences.

We will watch and guide surreptitiously


how can we not connect
when you are me and I am thee?
C.H.

And finally, heres an interview with Nassim Haramein on Synchronicity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1a4j5tpvU

He says: The vacuum or field is receiving all information and its feeding back the reality based on the information
received. An individual who becomes more and more aware of themselves, who becomes more and more aware of
their relationship to the vacuum is getting better and better at feeding information to the vacuum, and the vacuum is
becoming better and better at giving the manifestations faster and faster and more and more accurately.

They think of something and it happens, but its always a little different than what you imagine, because what you
feed to the universe comes back to you modified from everybody else feeding things into the vacuum. Its really
important to know that you are creating your reality, but that reality is also creating you. Theres a feedback so theres
an absolute correlation of creation occurring as a result of the vacuum. The vacuum or field is co-ordinating all events.
The higher and higher you get in the crystalline nature of the vacuum it is better that you get the structure of the
vacuum the way you want it the easier it is for all the co-ordinations to occur and the synchronicity goes through the
roof.

A few of my notes on synchronicity:

The vacuum or field is self-organizing everything, accessing information beyond normal sensory reach. The
translation of visual information is a new way of looking at consciousness. It is not the brain that is doing the thinking.
Whats going on in ones head is not going on out there. There is no clear distinction between ourselves and the whole
universe. We are borderless realizing there is no division. Thought seems to create things instantly. Random events
are unlikely.

nature of compensation

Before exploring the nature of compensation, I just wanted to express my profound gratitude to Jeffrey for creating
this map called EA. As I have been rereading the Pluto volumes (which often seems like the first time as new
correlations surface and my understanding of the material progresses) the deeper my appreciation grows of the pure
genius of this paradigm in revealing the stunning creativity our souls orchestrate. Thanks for the frame of reference,
which has been instrumental in igniting a renewable source of reverence and relevance in the wonder of it all... (:

On to Jupiter and compensation/overcompensation. I was just watching the DVD on planetary archetypes (again)
and had to stop to explore this notion of compensation (Jupiter) in further detail (Mercury).
This function of Jupiter seems to be in high gear within our society along with projection from the inconjunct to the
4th and our sense of security within society. It seems that our collective Jupiter has gone too far thus threatening our
collective security and in fact our home where we all live. Which as I look at the current transits of Jupiter in
Balsamic conj. to Uranus, opp. Saturn Rx. (all late in signs) square Pluto Rx opp. So.Node conj. Lucifer, no wonder
there is a strong urge for hang on to the remaining life vests tightly.

Is Jupiter/Sag./9th in and of itself always about unbridled expression? Prone to overdo, unless checked by Saturn?
Which sends my thoughts to the phasal relationship between these two. Yes?

The metaphor of driving a vehicle on an icy road comes to mind. The more cautiously one is driving, the less likelihood
of having to compensate or avert potential disaster and by contrast, the faster one is driving in such conditions, the
more likely such action is to put one in the ditch with the potential trip to the morgue oneself or the funeral of the
pedestrian taken out through reckless abandon.

Also, if anyone cares to share anecdotal stories related to this type of compensation in any of the various ways it plays
out, along with the attendant desires the soul has in manifesting this type of scenario, I would greatly welcome further
insight into this dynamic.

Blessings,
Eric
I'm not clear if you are correctly grasping the principle of compensation. Not sure if some of the examples you are
giving have much to do with compensating.

The gist of compensation is, (as an example) if a person feels inadequate and bad about themselves inside (Virgo-like)
they may cultivate an outer persona that seems really self-confident and almost full of self (Leo like). It works the
other way around also.

Quote from: Eric on May 25, 2010, 01:50 PM


This function of Jupiter seems to be in high gear within our society along with projection from the inconjunct to the
4th and our sense of security within society. It seems that our collective Jupiter has gone too far thus threatening our
collective security and in fact our home where we all live. Which as I look at the current transits of Jupiter in
Balsamic conj. to Uranus, opp. Saturn Rx. (all late in signs) square Pluto Rx opp. So.Node conj. Lucifer, no wonder
there is a strong urge for hang on to the remaining life vests tightly.

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Is Jupiter/Sag./9th in and of itself always about unbridled expression?
no

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Prone to overdo
That is one way it can manifest

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unless checked by Saturn?
That is one way it can be "checked".

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Which sends my thoughts to the phasal relationship between these two. Yes?
The Jupiter-Saturn cycle is a very important 20 year cycle.

Here are some words Jeffrey wrote about it many years ago:

Again, Jupiter is correlating to your beliefs and how these beliefs are going to be linked or in harmony or disharmony
with the consensus belief patterns of the culture in which you find yourself thus, impacting, i.e. beliefs do determine
lifestyle, on your ability to economically survive. If one's beliefs are inherently antithetical to society's beliefs, one
would have to create a lifestyle outside that society which impairs ones ability to earn a living, to make it financially.

Mercury in Pisces and Jupiter in Gemini in last quarter square would be confused about all kinds of ideas which come
at them because they are susceptible to the prevailing ideas and would try to adopt them for themselves because they
do not know what to think, Pisces. It is in a mutational state, crisis in consciousness, it is leaving behind that which has
come before, but without conception, Pisces, and trying to compensate, Jupiter in Gemini, by adopting those Gemini
ideas and calling them their own. But, because of the impulse of the last quarter, it will just throw out as it goes. It will
adopt, apply for a while, throw out, adopt some more, throw out so there will be cycles of clarity where some ideas will
work for a while, then they will not work which sets in motion a pattern of collecting more information, etc.
...
The economic issue relative to philosophy is obvious. The Jupiter/Saturn cycle has a 20-year life, from conjunction to
conjunction.and comes to a point of maturity at the opposition every ten years. When they are in a new phase, you
have the impulse of a new economic philosophy relative to political context which is now initiated by whoever happens
to be holding power. Reaganomics was new relative to what had just happened.

For example, in the 1920s, credit spending came into vogue with respect to the stock market, with futures,
speculations, things based on paper rather than reality. We had a president, Harding, who created massive economic
problems, who was then followed by Reagan's greatest hero. This new economic philosophy generated the great
depression by 1930. Next came FDR and yet another economic philosophy. So the 1940s were prosperous with
respect to a wartime economy, the initial seed of the industrial military complex. Then, again recession in the 1950s.
The 1960s were a prosperous decade, a democratic balanced budget, Lyndon Johnson, based on another military
economy, the Viet Nam war. The 1970s were another recession decade.. (Notice that the Democrats have generated
prosperous times and not Republicans, despite the claims to the contrary.) Then comes along Mr. Reagan with his
balanced budget by 1982! How many Americans bought into it? Remember the famous commercial "The shrinking
dollar? It is the economic philosophy of the party that is operating here, Saturn/Jupiter. So, we come to an opposition
again in 1989 and 1990. It suggests that the 1990s might not be different no matter who is in power because things are
too totally out of whack.

So, unless drastic measures are made, the 1990s may very well be, at least for the U.S., that is the context we are
speaking of - drastic while at the same time, necessary. If the strength of the economy is based on foreign investments
and most of the foreign countries own the gold which is that basis of the U S. economy, what happens when they buy
out? It means that when investments in this country are no longer attractive, they can get a rate of return in another
country better than this one. When it comes to money, there is no loyalty.

Eric, I suggest you go to Pluto Vol 1 and read about Pluto in the 9th house. This will give you the core/key
archetypes for 9th/Sag/Jupiter. In EA these correlate to "natural law" and "natural times", to the intuition, to
attempting to understand one's cosmological place in the Universe.

The manifestations of 9th/Sag/Jupiter you refer to are distorted manifestations, when its carried to extremes and
based on self interest - for example, it was during Pluto in Sag that we had the Internet stock bubble in the 90's and
the housing bubble in the 2000's. Even Greenspan called it "excessive exuberance", a very Sag term. And it was
Pluto in Cap that brought an end to the housing bubble, so in that case you are correct that Saturn checked the bubbly
nature of Jupiter. But that was only necessary because greed had entered the picture, something for nothing, and ever
more, ever more, the sky's the limit. Those archetypes are contained within the spectrum that Sag can manifest as but
they are far from inevitable - only when the archetype is distorted by self-interest over carrying out natural intuitive
intentions of sharing giving inclusion.
SteveSTEVE WRITES "The gist of compensation is, (as an example) if a person feels inadequate and bad about
themselves inside (Virgo-like) they may cultivate an outer persona that seems really self-confident and almost full of
self (Leo like). It works the other way around also."

Hi Steve,
Could you say it, in your words, for the other way around? It would be helpful for me, to hear it said.

Thanks,
Dhyanam not clear if you are correctly grasping the principle of compensation. Not sure if some of the examples you
are giving have much to do with compensating.

Yeah, I'm trying to grasp the nature of compensation (which seems like an important concept to fully understand
because one can see that dynamic occurring not only in people but on the planet itself as a natural response to prior
extremes) from an brief aside that JWG mentioned on the DVD of Planetary Archetypes. He said that "compensation
is another Jupiter function" referring in that instance specifically to how men (consensus patriarchal types) felt
threatened by the rebalancing of power which occurred as Neptune transited Libra.

I reread the chapter on Pluto in Sag., and didn't find any reference there to compensation. So still trying to grok
JWG's statement.

Essentially, compensation manifests as a form of rebalancing an attitude or behavior or organism which has swung
outside the bounds of equilibrium. The reason for the original swinging outside the bounds would seem to have the
intent of evolutionarily stimulating movement within a form where stasis has outlived its usefulness. Accordingly, the
more energy expended in trying to remain the status quo, the more leverage is required to dislodge it. Just thinking
out loud here.

In this light (assuming that I am somewhat on track in grasping the intent of compensation), the nature of this
dynamic would be related to the karmic function of natural law as it relates to evolution itself. So in effect, the
intention itself of evolution is to expand which happens sometimes gradually and other times in cataclysmic ways
depending specifically on the extent to which natural law is either aligned with that intention or not.

Think I'd like to stop for the moment to hopefully receive more feedback regarding this matter. Also I hope there is a
bit more clarity to this post vs. my last. Still trying to grasp the Jupiter function JWG tied to compensation.
Yeah, I'm trying to grasp the nature of compensation (which seems like an important concept to fully understand
because one can see that dynamic occurring not only in people but on the planet itself as a natural response to prior
extremes) from an brief aside that JWG mentioned on the DVD of Planetary Archetypes. He said that "compensation
is another Jupiter function" referring in that instance specifically to how men (consensus patriarchal types) felt
threatened by the rebalancing of power which occurred as Neptune transited Libra.

I reread the chapter on Pluto in Sag., and didn't find any reference there to compensation. So still trying to grok
JWG's statement.

I directed you to Pluto Vol 1 chapter on Sag/9th not to read about compensation but because of your statement
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Is Jupiter/Sag./9th in and of itself always about unbridled expression? Prone to overdo, unless checked by Saturn?
Which sends my thoughts to the phasal relationship between these two. Yes?
so that you could review the core Jup/9thSag archetypes and thus answer your own question about is it always about
unbridled expression. You probably didn't find much about unbridled expression in there at all, which was my point,
that is one expression of Jup/9th/Sag but far from a key core one. I understand now that you are trying to learn
about compensation. A deeper understanding of those archetypes overall might help you understand the role and
extent compensation plays among them - to keep it in perspective.

I asked the question about compensation myself a long time ago. Here is the transcript I found in the old message
board archives:

Jupiter / Compensation
Posted by Steve on May 06, 2002 at 01:29:48:
Hi Jeffrey In the video while you are explaining 1st stage individuated you say that the typical reaction here is to
compensate and that compensation is a Jupiter principle. I am not understanding the connection between
compensation and Jupiter. Can you please explain?
Thank you, Steve

Jeffrey: Steve People in the beginnings of the first stage individuated do in fact feel very different than the consensus
folks/state thru which they have just evolved and yet because it is relatively new it of course creates a deep sense of
insecurity and anxiety in terms of fully acting upon this individuating impluse .. as a result of that fear such folks
'compensate' by way of trying to counteract this inner sense of insecurity and anxiety by creating the external
appearance of normalcy including the very structures of their life .. including many 'friends' that come out of that very
consenus .. 'normal' type jobs, etc .. thus creating a living lie because of the act of compensation .. all of us can
'compensate' in areas of our life relative to where we feel most insecure or powerless ..

Steve: Thanks... That part I understand. What is the connection between that and Jupiter? That is what I don't
understand.

Jeffrey: Steve The connection is simply the fact that jupiter correlates to the dynamic of compensation .. no different
than, say, venus has a correlation to values ..
Marc: steve ... i have heard jeffrey talk about the square from sagitarius to virgo. virgo and lack creating the need to
compensate/exagerate (sag) for that lack

Steve: Marc - thank you, this is what I was after - Steve. Now I get it

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Essentially, compensation manifests as a form of rebalancing an attitude or behavior or organism which has swung
outside the bounds of equilibrium. The reason for the original swinging outside the bounds would seem to have the
intent of evolutionarily stimulating movement within a form where stasis has outlived its usefulness. Accordingly, the
more energy expended in trying to remain the status quo, the more leverage is required to dislodge it. Just thinking
out loud here.

I don't think I agree with the way you phrased this Eric. I would say compensation is a form of AVOIDING
rebalancing. Because it comes out of denial, where the person believes (Jupiter) that the way they are showing up IS
the truth, when in fact it is a way of avoiding looking at (Virgo, denial) the actual reality, and pretending to be
something other than what they really are. That is not my definition of rebalancing. If they OWNED the underlying
condition and then practiced coming from a polarity to work towards balancing it, that I'd describe as rebalancing.
Denial can never be a path to equilbrium.

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In this light (assuming that I am somewhat on track in grasping the intent of compensation), the nature of this
dynamic would be related to the karmic function of natural law as it relates to evolution itself. So in effect, the
intention itself of evolution is to expand which happens sometimes gradually and other times in cataclysmic ways
depending specifically on the extent to which natural law is either aligned with that intention or not.

I'm not sure I'd call compensation a natural phenomena. Its more like a survival mechanism. A person feels so
wounded inside they can't show up as what and where they really are - they pretend (fooling themselves) to be more
than or less than what they actually are. That is to survive. If aligned with natural law, a person would just accept
wherever they found themselves to be - why would they need to compensate?

There's a big difference between being aware you feel highly inadequate, accepting that you do and showing up
anyway with acceptance of your inadequacies (humility), and showing up acting like you are confident and self-
assured, an adopted persona, when that is not at all where the person is within themselves. In other words,
compensation is more making a condition even more out of balance than it is rebalancing a condition.
Hi Steve and Eric,

could I throw out an example here for analysis' sake?

say, pluto in scorpio opposite jupiter in taurus - the 1st stage


individuated person feels deep inadequacies with respect to
transformation, deep relationships, etc. (whatever is indicated by
scorpio) and because of that compensates (jupiter) by showing up as
very taurean - sefl-sufficient, etc.

also, I would like to clarify that compensation via jupiter is distinct to the
1st inidivuated state?

thanks for any feedback.

I'd been meaning to post about jupiter myself since I heard it mentioned
on a recent Kristin Fontana show - something about jupiter indicating
what a person needs to give up in order to make room for "something
else".
hi bluesky

Quote from: bluesky on May 26, 2010, 02:51 PM


could I throw out an example here for analysis' sake?

say, pluto in scorpio opposite jupiter in taurus - the 1st stage


individuated person feels deep inadequacies with respect to
transformation, deep relationships, etc. (whatever is indicated by
scorpio) and because of that compensates (jupiter) by showing up as
very taurean - sefl-sufficient, etc.

Sure, that fits, as an example

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also, I would like to clarify that compensation via jupiter is distinct to the
1st inidivuated state?

I would say that is not correct. Compensation can show up in someone


in any evolutionary stage where the person is not operating fully aligned
with natural law.

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I'd been meaning to post about jupiter myself since I heard it mentioned
on a recent Kristin Fontana show - something about jupiter indicating
what a person needs to give up in order to make room for "something
else".

The thought is one that Jeffrey used to say, that where Jupiter is
transiting it has gifts to bring you. But you have to be willing to give
something up before you can receive the gifts. The "something" is not
some random something that you pick out yourself. Rather it is
something that has become outmoded in the life and needs to be let go
of. I'd say its not a conscious process - Jupiter is intuition - one would
just know what the something needs to be. No letting go, no gifts.
Jupiter transits are more benign than say Saturn transits.

hanks for getting back on this, and for the info from the old message board.
The whole thing hasn't quite settled in yet, which maybe is indicative of a question which hasn't been fully formulated
yet. The original impetus was sparked by Jeffrey's statement correlating those two things and I had a really big belly
laugh when you got the response fom him:
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Jeffrey: Steve The connection is simply the fact that jupiter correlates to the dynamic of compensation .. no different
than, say, venus has a correlation to values ..

I guess I'm missing the simply part.


I understand Marc's comment which is simple and does help to explain this partially. Maybe half, and it would seem to
describe compensation from a psychological perspective for which EA wins grand prize in my view. Possibly this is
the extent for which this comparison was meant.

As this subject has at its root, the archetype of Jupiter, I am still pondering the whole concept as it might relate to
natural phenomenon as well. Looking at the etymology of the word compensation I found this: compensate
1640s, from L. compensatus, pp. of compensare "to weigh one thing (against another)," thus, "to counterbalance,"
from com- "with" (see com-) + pensare, freq. of pendere "to weigh"

As I am sitting outside looking up at the full moon (which is quite lovely) at this moment, maybe the moon could be
used to illuminate this concept I am trying to comprehend. According too prevailing theory, our moon was created
from the impact of a large body to the Earth. Part of the earth was evidently sheared off and those parts accreted
eventually into what I see tonight.

The Earth itself presumably had been without an orbiting satellite prior to this impact, and thus had to compensate or
counterbalance as a result. Another form where this may be seen would be after a lightening strike in a forest which
then causes a wildfire. The entire ecosystem affected by the fire would then have to compensate for its' new
circumstances. Or on a cellular level, the introduction of a virus into an organism would cause that organism to
compensate in some way as a reaction to the threat of the virus.
So with these examples there seems to be various scales at which compensation occurs, yet if your perspective was
within the earth, or the forest, or the organism your response mechanism would be very much the same. Which points
me back to your point Steve of compensation being a survival mechanism.

Maybe along with the crisis you related in the waxing square from Virgo to Sag there is also the adjustment or
rebalancing which has to be made with the inconjunct from Sag to Taurus for the survival of the forest or organism or
person.

Have to get off now or I'll be compensating with too much caffeine from lack of sleep tomorrow:)
Thanks for walking down this road with me Steve, I really appreciate what you have to say and look forward to any
comments you may have.

Pleasant Dreams,
Eric
ere's his chart- (I put Sun on the first house for no birth time)
He said in the interview "I've been hiding"- made me wonder how
Neptune came into play as well.

This whole thing started with the transiting nn was on his Jupiter. Being
in Capricorn is so descriptive of the nature of his compensation- lying
about who he is for the sake of social acceptance, fearing rejection etc.

I think you got the year wrong on that chart - you have the birth year as 0194, which was 200 years after Jesus's time.

As far as what you said, I don't know enough about the guy to guess on evolutionary stage. But his behaviors speak of
1st stage indiv, above and beyond any signature in his birth chart. Living a lie, creating a fake reality attempting to fit
in.

Then comes a Plutonian sort of event, where his actual reality is exposed for the whole world to see, no doubt creating
inner meltdown in him. To his credit, instead of disappearing into the night out of public view, or claiming he is not
gay (like Larry Craig did even after being busted) he goes to the opposite extreme, starts becoming an outspoken
advocate for the way he's actually been all along, and against everything he's professed to be. Saying in effect "I can
no longer live a lie" - the intended lesson in 1st stage indiv.

If we want to project into a future, its not too hard to see how he could over time become something like a militant gay
rights advocate, and how a 2nd stage indiv identity could begin to develop around that (in this or future lives), with
the tendency to over-identify with his new "unique" identity, subconsciously attempting to balance the scale for what
he previously denied (through compensating, pretending to be something other than what he really was). That is how
these things work, oscillating from one polarity to the other (Libra-like) until over long periods of time equilibrium of
inner synthesis of polarities develops - what we tend to call balance. But balance is dynamic, not static - you can't
"reach a state of balance" because the dynamics of balance are ever-shifting. We have to learn to be flexible enough to
ride that wave, wherever its going at any moment in time.
It ends up that his actual nn is conjunct the Jupiter Neptune of the 2000
year old guy. Perhaps a prior incarnation as a Roman Senator?
Quote from: Steve
Taking yourself back, owning who you are - that is what balances scales.

That is how these things work, oscillating from one polarity to the other (Libra-like) until over long periods of time
equilibrium of inner synthesis of polarities develops - what we tend to call balance. But balance is dynamic, not static -
you can't "reach a state of balance" because the dynamics of balance are ever-shifting. We have to learn to be
flexible enough to ride that wave, wherever its going at any moment in time.

Thank you Steve, that has spoken to me exactly at the moment in time when I needed to hear it spoken.

...synchronicity...
Today I was out hiking and reflecting on certain lessons that come from the experience of hiking. Lessons come as I
observe nature and observe myself in motion; I guess this is my Jupiter functioning. Along this vein, I started to reflect
on Jupiter and the idea of compensation. I was recalling this discussion on the board and have gone back and reread
what was said and want to add a little bit more.

While walking up any hill, I find that I can keep walking as long as I walk with respect to my own breath. That is, as
long as I dont hold any external standards as to how slow or fast I should be walking and just allow myself to walk at
whatever pace respects my present capacity, I can keep walking. If I am tired I walk a little slower, if I feel strong,
maybe I walk a little faster. As I move towards my goal of reaching my destination, all I have to do to keep making
steady progress is to continuously pay attention and modulate myself to the present moment. I dont need to stop and
rest to catch my breath as long as I do this. It seems like this experience can be used to illustrate the compensation
function that was being discussed in regards to Jupiter.

Jupiter is there to guide us through life. It is our intuition, and our beliefs. When our beliefs are based on what is
really happening, on paying attention to what is natural, to what our bodies are telling us, to our breath, to our energy
in the present moment, to our intuition, then they serve us well. We can move through life with a certain ease and
consistency, always aware of when to walk a little faster or slower. But when our beliefs dont reflect who we really
are and they are telling us to keep up with someone else who is hiking with us or are pushing us to hike faster because
of expectations..., then we get into compensating behaviors. (Of course there are many reasons; this is just a
metaphor.) When this happens we over-exert ourselves and have to stop and rest until our breath returns to normal.
This is the action of physical compensation. Like Steve pointed out, compensation of all sorts happens when, instead of
respecting what is happening, we act from beliefs that are not in alignment with what is and not from observation of
what is. So then we have to compensate somehow because we are out of step with who we are; we lose our breath.
Instead of respecting the limitations and boundaries of ourselves in each moment, we believe that we are something
different and act in a fashion that causes us to lose our breath. Then we need to stop and regain balance at some point.

So Jupiter in its best sense correlates to intuition and the beliefs that arise out of observing what is actual and true for
ourselves. It also correlates to beliefs that we have adopted or inherited or subconsciously have accumulated that dont
correspond to the truth of who we are. And it represents the aspect of compensation that occurs when we transgress
the natural tempo and force that is guiding us and listen to these limiting or distorted beliefs that tell us to be
something other than what we are, consciously or unconsciously. It is the action of over-extending or underestimating
ourselves. It results from looking to others or looking outside to define something that only we can define for ourselves
- our own truth in this present moment.

Let's all go take a hike.


Playfully,Thanks for sharing your intuitive perceptions that happened on your hike .... the connetion to natural law is
within your observations as well ...

God Bless, RCould we talk a little bit about compensatory behavior with Jupiter and Uranus in Pisces? They seem to
have the effect of "putting one's head in the sand" and acting like everything is okay when it is obviously not. Uranus
being the planet of Liberation cannot seem to make a dent through the Piscean fog and just throws it's hands in the air
until some major catastrophe comes along.

I for one am ready for these two to move into aries even though it is
probably going to be chaotic and potentially violent.......at least things
may start moving in some direction.

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