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Contents & Numerical Index

Contents
Numerical Index ............................................................. 1
Quality Assurance .......................................................... 2
Product Overview ....................................................... 5
Bronze Gate Valves
Figure 33X .......................................................................... 12
Figure C31 .......................................................................... 13
Figure C618 ....................................................................... 14
Cast Iron Gate Valves
Figure M541 ...................................................................... 16
Figure 501 ........................................................................... 17
Figure 504 ........................................................................... 18
Bronze Check Valves
Figure 47 .............................................................................. 20
Cast Iron Check Valves
Figure M651 ...................................................................... 22 Fig No. Page No.
Figure 850 ........................................................................... 23 Figure 33X ............................................................... 12
Bronze Ball Valves Figure C31 ............................................................... 13
Figure 113 ........................................................................... 26 Figure C618 ............................................................ 14
Bronze Globe Valves Figure M541 ............................................................ 16
Figure C4 ............................................................................. 28 Figure 501 ................................................................ 17
Figure 13 .............................................................................. 29 Figure 504 ................................................................ 18
Cast Iron Globe Valves Figure 47 ................................................................. 20
Figure 731 ........................................................................... 33 Figure M651 ............................................................ 22
Bronze Commissioning Valve Figure 850 ................................................................ 23
Figure 1732 ........................................................................ 36 Figure 113 ................................................................ 26
Cast Iron & Steel Commissioning Valves Figure C4 .................................................................. 28
Figure M2000 (50mm-200mm) ............................. 38 Figure 13 ................................................................... 29
Figure M2000 (250mm-300mm) .......................... 39 Figure 731 ................................................................ 33
Figure M2000 (350mm-700mm) .......................... 40 Figure 1732 ............................................................. 36
Figure M737 (50mm-200mm) ................................ 41 Figure M2000 (50mm-200mm) .................. 38
Figure M737 (250mm-350mm) ............................. 42 Figure M2000 (250mm-300mm) ............... 39
Figure 953W 953WG ................................................. 43 Figure M2000 (350mm-700mm) ............... 40
Figure 973W 973WG ................................................. 44 Figure M737 (50mm-200mm) ..................... 41
Buttery Valves Figure M737 (250mm-350mm) .................. 42
Figure 950 ........................................................................... 47 Figure 973W 973WG ...................................... 43
Figure 4970 ........................................................................ 48 Figure 973W 973WG ...................................... 44
Bronze Y Type Strainers Figure 950 ................................................................ 47
Figure 817 ........................................................................... 52 Figure 4970 ............................................................. 48
Figure 807 ........................................................................... 53 Figure 817 ................................................................ 52
Cast Iron & Ductile Iron Y Type Strainers Figure 807 ................................................................ 53
Figure 810 ........................................................................... 56 Figure 810 ................................................................ 56
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Quality Assurance

The Kitemark

The Kitemark is a registered trademark owned by British


Standards Institution and may only be used by
manufacturers who are approved licencees and whose
products fully comply with the individual product standards.

Annual product audits and regular surveillance visits by BSI


ensure continuing compliance with specication
requirements and conrm acceptable Quality Systems to
BS EN ISO 9000.

Firm of Assessed Capability

BS EN/ISO 9000 is the reference Standard for Quality


Systems.

Hattersley is a Registered Firm of Assessed Capability with


the Ormskirk manufacturing site complying with the
requirements.

WRc Evaluation and Testing Centre

The WRc Evaluation and Testing Centre is responsible for


the Water Regulations Advisory Scheme, with testing and
approval of water ttings meeting the requirements of the
United Kingdom Water Regulations/Bylaws (Scotland).

Valves for use in public water supply systems and domestic


situations must not contravene the United Kingdom Water
Regulations.Valves which are designated WRAS Approved
Product and listed in the Water Fittings and Materials
Directory will not contravene those bylaws.

Many Hattersley valves have been tested and certied as


being WRAS Approved Products and are listed in the Water
Fittings and Materials Directory.

CE Mark

The symbol shown is the European mark for product


certication.

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Product Overvi e w

Section 1 a - B r o n z e G a t e Va l v e s

Figure 33X - 33XLS Figure C31 Figure 618


Screwed Bonnet Screwed Bonnet Screwed Bonnet
PN20 Series B PN16 Series B PN20 Series B
Non rising stem Non rising stem Rising stem
Size: to 4 in Size: to 2 in Size: to 2 in

Section 1 b - C a s t I r o n G a t e Va l v e s

Figure M541 Figure 501 Figure 504


Flanged Ends Flanged Ends Flanged Ends
PN16 ANSI Class 125 ANSI Class 125
Non rising stem Non rising stem Rising stem
Size: 50 to 400mm Size: 2 to 12 in Size: 2 to 12 in
Section 2 a - B r o n z e C h e c k Va l v e s
Section 2 b - Cast Iron Check Valves

Figure 47 Figure M651 Figure 850


Horizontal swing pattern swing pattern Wafer Pattern
PN25 - Series B PN16 /ANSI Class 125 PN16
Ends threaded internal Flanged Ends installed between Flanges
Size: to 3 in Size: 50 to 300mm Size: 50 to 400mm

Section 3 - B r o n z e B a l l Va l v e
Section 4 a - B r o n z e G l o b e Va l v e s

Figure 113 Figure C4 Figure 13


Threaded end connections Screwed Bonnet Screwed Bonnet
PN40 PN16 PN32 Series B
Blow-out proof stem Rising stem Rising stem
Size: to 3 in Size: to 2 in Size: to 2 in
Product Overvi e w

Section 4b - Cast Iron Globe Valves

Section 5a - Bronze Balancing Valve

Figure 731PN16 Figure 1732


Screwed Bonnet Fixed Orice Double
PN16/ ANSI Class 125 Regulating
Rising stem PN20 Series B
Size: 50 to 300mm Threaded end connections
Size: to 2 in

Section 5b - Cast Iron and Steel Commissioning Valves

Figure M2000 Figure M2000 Figure M737


Stainless Steel Metering Cast Iron Metering Stations Cast Iron Variable Orice
Stations PN16 Double Regulating Valves
PN16 Size: 350 to 700mm PN16 /ANSI Class 125
size: 50 to 300mm Size: 50 to 200mm
Section 5b - Cast Iron & Ductile Iron Balancing Valves

Figure M737 Figure 953W - 953WG Figure 973W - 973WG


Ductile Iron Variable Cast Iron Buttery Valves Ductile Iron Buttery
Orice Double Regulating with Double Regulating Valves with Double
Valves Feature Regulating Feature
PN16 /ANSI Class 125 PN16 PN16
Size: 250 to 300mm Lever or Gearbox Lever or Gearbox
Size: 50 to 300mm Size: 50 to 300mm

Section 6 - B u t t e r f l y Va l v e s

Figure 950, 950G Figure 4970, 4970G


Semi-lugged Wafer Pattern Fully-lugged Wafer Pattern
PN16 PN16
Lever or Gearbox Lever or Gearbox
Size: 50 to 600mm Size: 50 to 600mm
Product Overvi e w

Section 7 - B r o n z e Y S t r a i n e r Va l v e s

Figure 817 Figure 807


Threaded end connections Threaded end connections
PN16 PN32 Series B
Screwed Cap Screwed Cap
304 Stainless Steel Screen 304 Stainless Steel Screen
Size: to 4 in Size: to 2 in

Section 8 - Cast Iron Y Type Strainer

Figure 810
Flanged Ends
PN16 /ANSI Class 125
Bolted cover
304 Stainless Steel Screen
Size: 50 to 600mm








C



B

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Pressure/Temperature Rating
7 bar at 170C
16 bar from -10 to 100C

Test Pressure
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Each valve is individually
hydrostatically tested to BS5154 at
20 the following test pressures.
Shell: 24 bar
Seat: 17.6 bar
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Specification
Pressure Bar

12 Bronze body and bonnet


Non-rising stem
8 Threaded bonnet
One piece wedge
4 BS21 Taper thread (ISO 7)
Available with NPT thread (C31AT)
0
subject to minimum quantities
-20 0 40 80 120 160 200 240 Generally in accordance with
Temperature C BS5154

Materials Specification
Specification
Component Material BS EN ASTM
Handwheel Cast Iron 1561 EN-JL1030 A126 CI B
Stem Brass 12164 CW603N B16 C36000
Gland Packing PTFE
Stem Ring Brass 12164 CW603N B16 C36000
Bonnet Bronze 1982 CC491K B584 C84400
Wedge Bronze 1982 CC491K B584 C84400
B ody Bronze 1982 CC491K B584 C84400

Dimensions
Nominal Size in 1
2
3
4 1 114 112 2
A mm 47 51 54 59 64 71
B mm 75 84 95 116 127 151
C mm 54 58 64 70 74 85
Weight kg 0.3 0.4 0.6 0. 8 0.9 1.5

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Pressure/Temperature Rating
9 bar at 180C
20 bar from -10 to 100C

Test Pressure
Each valve is individually
hydrostatically tested to BS5154
at the following test pressures. 24
Shell: 30 bar
Seat: 22 bar 20

Specification
16
Rising stem
Pressure Bar

Threaded bonnet
12
One piece wedge
Bronze trim
8
BS21 Taper thread (ISO 7)
Complies with BS 5154
4
Available with NPT thread (C618AT)
Complies with MSS SP-80 Class 150
0
-20 0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

Materials Specification
Specification
Component Material B S EN A ST M
Handwheel Cast Iron 1561 EN-JL1030 A126 CI B
Stem Copper Alloy 12164 CW603N B21-C48200
Gland Nut Copper Alloy 12164 CW603N B16-C36000
Gland Copper Alloy 12164 CW603N B16-C36000
Gland Packing PTFE
Bonnet Bronze 1982 CC491K B62-C83600
Body Bronze 1982 CC491K B62-C83600
Wedge Bronze 1982 CC491K B62-C83600

Dimensions
Nominal Size in 1
2 3
4 1 114 112 2
A mm 47 51 59 63 67 74
B Open mm 117 140 167 195 222 264
C mm 53 64 70 80 90 102
Weight kg 0.35 0.53 0.75 1.05 1.41 2.03

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18
16

14

12

Pressure bar

10

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C











C






B





D

16



20
18


16
14

Pressure bar
12
10
8

team

te d S
6

ura
4

Sat
2


0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

17


20
18

16

14
Pressure bar
12

10

team

te d S
6

ura
4

Sat
2

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

18

28

24


20

Pressure bar

16

12

0
0 30 60 90 120 150 180
Temperature C

20

18
PN16
16
ANSI 125
14

12

Pressure bar

10

8
6

4
2

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240

Temperature C




22





18

16

EPDM Seat
Nitrile Seat

14
12

Pressure bar 10

8

6

4

2

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C


D
C
E

B

23





44
1/2" to 2"
40

36

32
28

Pressure bar
21/2" & 3"
24
20
16

12
8
4
0
0 40 80 120 160
Temperature C

26







Pressure/Temperature Rating
7 bar at 170C
16 bar from -10 to 100C
24
Test Pressure
Each valve is individually 20
hydrostatically tested to BS5154 at the
following test pressures.
Shell: 24 bar 16
Seat: 17.6 bar
Pressure Bar

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Specification
Rising stem
8
Threaded bonnet
Metal Disk
4
BS21 Taper thread (ISO 7)
Available with NPT thread (C32AT)
subject to minimum quantities 0
-20 0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

Materials Specification
Specification
Component Material BS EN ASTM
Handwheel Cast Iron 1561 EN-JL1030 A126 CI B
Stem Brass 12164 CW614N B455-385
Gland Nut Brass 12164 CW614N B455-385
Gland Follower Br a s s 12164 CW614N B455-385
Gland Packing PTFE
Bonnet Bronze 1982 CC490K B62 C84400
Disk Bronze 1982 CC490K B62 C84400
Body Bronze 1982 CC490K B62 C84400

Dimensions
Nominal Size in 1
4
3
8
1
2
3
4 1 114 112 2
A mm 43 46 49 56 65 75 84 99
B mm 80 81 86 96 114 126 136 163
C mm 48 48 48 55 62 73 73 88
Weight kg 0.25 0.25 0.26 0.35 0. 5 5 0.72 1.01 1.54

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32
28

24

Pressure bar

20

16

12

am
Ste
8

ted
4

a
t

ur
Sa

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

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32



18

16

14

12
Pressure bar 10

team
6

S
ted
4

ura

Sa t
2

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C













C



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20
Threaded Ends

16

Pressure bar

Co
12

mp

re
ss i
on
En
ds
8

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C

36


18
16

14

12

Pressure bar

10

8
6

4
2

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C

B
C

A B

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18

16

14

12

Pressure bar 10

8
6


4
2


0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C









B
C

A B

39


18

16
14

Pressure bar 12
10

6

4

2
0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C

A B

40






18

16

14
12

Pressure bar 10

8

6

4
2

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C




















C



B

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18

16

14

12
Pressure bar
10

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C

42



18

16

14

12
Pressure bar 10

8

6

4

2

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140

Temperature C







K

J






H


43


18

16

14

12

Pressure bar
10

6

4

0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C



K

A


J




44

46









18
16

14
12

Pressure bar

10

8

6

4

2
0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C






F




E


K



H

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18

16
14

12

Pressure bar
10

G 4

2
A
0
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
Temperature C




F






D



J



K


H




48

49


18

16

14

12

Pressure bar
10

8
6

ma
Ste
4

d
ate
tur
2

Sa
0
0 40 80 120 160 200
Temperature C

B
D

D=withdrawal distance for the screen

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36

32

28

24

Pressure bar

20
16

12
am


Ste

8

ted

4
a

t
ur

Sa

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

A





B
C

C=withdrawal distance for strainer element

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18

16
14

12

Pressure bar
10

8

team
6

S
ted
4

tura
Sa
2

0
0 40 80 120 160 200 240
Temperature C

A


D


E
C

E=withdrawal distance for strainer element

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Hattersley Newman Hender,
Open and shut case

WH Parson goes with the ow at leading valve


manufacturer Hattersley Newman Hender

Valves play a critical part of most industrial processes,


and Hattersley Newman Hender has been making them for
over 100 years. The company now has 9500 item lines; it
sells two million valves every year. It is a world leader in what
you might call the ow business, with a 60 per cent share
of the market. The company has 300 employees; annual
revenue is 30 million. Hattersley valves are used in the
heating and ventilation industries, in ofce blocks, schools,
hospitals, petrochemical plants and water works. One in
four Hattersley valves is exported, with many ending up
operating in some of the worlds most hostile environments.

The origins of Hattersley Newman Hender go back to


1897, when 20-year-old Richard Hattersley owned a small
tool-making business in Halifax. In the early 1900s he
relocated to Ormskirk, and in 1910 he joined with three other
engineering companies, including Newman Hender & Co.
of Woodchester, to form United Brassfounders & Engineers.
The company was probably the most comprehensive group
of its kind. By 1937 Hattersley and Newman Hender both
enjoyed worldwide sales, with Hattersley exporting to some

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73 countries. During the Second World War, both companies
entered war production, making fuses for armaments, brass
rods for munitions factories and, of course, special valves
for military purposes. After the war, the two companies
diversied, and Hattersley expanded its overseas interests
by buying a substantial stake in the large Australian valve
company M B John, and establishing Hattersley (Canada) to
develop business in North America.

Considerable investment was made in an advanced


manufacturing plant at Ormskirk, and in 1981 a sophisticated
new cast iron foundry came into operation. Built at a cost of
4 million, the fully automated foundry had the capacity to
increase the output of castings by up to 40 per cent, producing
192 tons of castings per week. In 1984, the company was
one of the rst to receive BS 5750. This was followed by BSI
Kitemark quality awards for its range of copper alloy gate,
globe and check valves, draining cocks, and metric cast iron
gate, globe, check and waterworks valves. Quality awards
came from abroad too, when the Milliken lubricated parallel
plug valve was approved by the Under-writers Laboratory
in the US and the Canadian Gas Association, as the fruits
of the continuing investment in production plant began to
appear during 1985 and 1986. In a move to boost its on-
going quality control programme, Hattersley installed a new
computer assisted tri-axial inspection centre, which gives
rapid highly accurate measurements over a wide variety of
castings.

During this period the company introduced what is


probably the most sophisticated valve production system
in the world, a 5.5 million exible manufacturing system.
It followed a three-year evaluation involving companies
throughout Europe. The British-built, computer-controlled
system can manufacture over 2500 component variations,
and in buoyant market conditions operates 24 hours a day,
machining over 100 tonnes of castings per week. At its heart
is a group of sophisticated FM 100 machining centres, with
special-purpose out-facing machines, fed by automatically
guided vehicles that move components and xtures around
the system.

In 1992 the foundry under went a major redevelopment


at a cost of 1.6 million to install two six tonne electric
induction furnaces to replace the coke red cupolas.
Hattersley continued to develop new products for heating

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and ventilating with the introduction of cast iron products
for grooved piping systems in 1995. That year also saw
the introduction of the next generation of balancing valves
when the Autoow range of automatic balancing valves was
launched. Designed for use on both constant and variable
volume systems, Autoow signicantly reduces the amount
of commissioning time required to balance large systems. In
1990 Hattersley entered the industrial valve market when
the Millcentric eccentric plug valve was developed for the
waste water industry, and the Milliken Valve Co. was formed
in Bethlehem USA to develop sales of the valve in North
America. In 1996 the range of industrial valves increased,
with a range of ductile iron knife gate valves for the pulp and
paper industry. In 1998 a stainless steel range was added.
Stainless steel ball valves were also added to the range that
year, to cover the requirement for smaller sizes.

Throughout its long history, Hattersley Newman Hender


has enjoyed a growing reputation for quality and reliability.
The company has more kitemarked products than any other,
and a recent survey showed that most of its customers prefer to
stick with Hattersley rather than be tempted by less reputable
rival products, even if they sometimes seem to be cheaper.
Hattersleys reputation continues to win it big contracts
both at home and overseas, in both public and private
markets - and most recently, in a big PFI project. Hattersley
is supplying valves for the 45 million refurbishment of 20
schools in the Kirklees area of West Yorkshire. The two-and-
a-half-year project is the biggest improvement programme
undertaken by the council since the school building boom of
the early 1960s. Temporary classrooms are being replaced,
heating systems improved and new science and technology
facilities installed and built. The average school contract
for Hattersley is worth between 5000 and 15,000. The
bulk of the valves being supplied by Hattersley are bronze
isolating and commissioning valves used in low temperature
heating systems.

Contractor EMCOR Drake & Scull have an 18-month


nationwide agreement with Hattersley who provide them with
a tailor-made range of valves to meet its needs at a specially
negotiated rate. The project is the biggest Hattersley has
been awarded involving a local authority private nance
initiative. Over the next ve years, the company plans to
expand into other lucrative new markets both at home and
abroad.

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Hattersley Valves Biggest
Projects
Hattersley Valves for Massive Projects in
Kuwait
The Avenues is a 425,000 square meter site, set to be
Kuwaits premier shopping, leisure and business destination
when completed in 2010. Businesses within the complex
will include 216 retail stores, a ten-screen cinema complex,
restaurants and 15000 car park spaces. Hattersley
balancing valves and strainers are currently being installed
as part of the HVAC systems within phase one of the projects
scheduled to be open by the end of 2007.

A range of Hattersley valves including balancing, gate,


buttery and strainers are being installed within the HVAC
systems of Al Safat American Hospital under construction at
Sabah Al-Salem in Kuwait. This 120-bed general hospital is
intended to be near paperless, with all medical records kept
in electronic form only.

The third project in Kuwait to have Hattersley valves


specied this year is a huge commercial ofce tower in
Kuwait city. Al Babtain Waqf Tower is to have Hattersley
valves installed throughout its 40 stores; the whole building
design represents a symbolic palm tree.

Biggest ever order for Hattersley

Valve manufacturer Hattersley is currently involved in their


largest ever single order - supplying control valves for the
massive Terminal 5 Heathrow airport construction project.

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Hattersley valves are to be used within the various hot
water, condenser and chilled water systems, air handling
units and the heating, ventilating and air-conditioning
systems throughout the terminal buildings, tunnels, plant
room and service areas.

To meet the demanding specications across the wide


range of applications, many different valve types and sizes
need to be supplied. These vary from bronze and cast iron
ball and buttery valves ranging in size from 65mm to
700mm and hundreds of commissioning sets.

This is a major contract for us, said Hattersley Business


Development Director Martin Pride, In fact it is the single
largest order we have ever had. We have set up a T5 Team
within the company to manage the production control and
supply chain operations and to maintain liaison with our
contracting partners.

Terminal 5 is one of the largest construction projects in


the UK, phase 1 alone consists of 16 major interconnecting
projects and 134 sub-projects. It extends far beyond the
construction of the terminal building and includes 41 aircraft
stands, two satellites, a 4,000 space multi storey car park, a
new control tower, the creation of a new spur road from the
M25, the diversion of two rivers and an airport perimeter
road. Plus over 13km of bored tunnel, including extensions
to the Heathrow Express and Piccadilly Line services.

The T5 program is making extensive use of prefabricated


components and building services modules. The manufacture
of prefabricated components and sub-assemblies will
be carried out in many locations throughout the UK and
Europe.

Phase 1 is scheduled to be complete and operational by


spring 2008.

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Hattersley Valves Control Ricoh Arena

The recently completed Ricoh Arena, home of Coventry


City FC, has Hattersley valves at the heart of the HVAC
systems.

As well as providing a new 32,000 capacity stadium


for Coventry City that includes 72 executive boxes,
bars and restaurants, there is much more to this vast
72.5 acre site. Situated alongside the M6 at junction 3,
the complex also includes a 65-bed hotel, 6,000 square
meters of exhibition/concert hall, 3,000 square meters
for conference and banqueting, 8,000 square meters of
ofce accommodation and a 9,000 square meter casino as
well as a 2,000 space car park.

The entire construction programme began in January


2004 and the football stadium was ready to host the rst
match of the new season in August 2005. During that
time Building Services contractors Haden Young designed
and installed services using a range of Hattersley valves
including buttery, Auto ow, fan coil compact hook-up
units and commissioning sets. These are controlling the
heating, ventilating and air-conditioning systems around
the football stadium including the hospitality boxes and the
hotel complex. Final elements of the entire construction
programme were completed in early 2006.

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Hattersley valves throughout new Manchester
Hospital
Hattersley valves have been specied
for installation throughout the heating,
ventilating and air conditioning systems,
hot and cold water and domestic
systems at the massive Manchester Royal
Inrmary re-construction project.

Manchester Royal Inrmary is a


working hospital where the construction
is being carried out in stages, allowing
departments to move into the new
areas as they are completed. The
vacated areas are then demolished and
re-constructed, until the entire hospital
will be re-built. When completed, the
hospital will be known as Manchester
Joint Hospital.

Thousands of valves from throughout the Hattersley


range are being installed by M & E contractors Rotary
North West. A new Energy Centre has been constructed
and is now operational; this will serve each new block,
each of which will have individual plant rooms.

In addition to the many gate, globe, check, ball and


buttery valves used within the project, Differential
Pressure Control Valves and Compact Hook-Up modules
have been included. The Compact Hook-Ups are
prefabricated modular management systems providing
ow control, measurement, ushing and isolation of fan
coils and other terminal units. Compact Hook-Ups are
extremely quick and simple to install and factory testing
ensures trouble-free operation.

Hattersley were also able to provide a solution to


potential health risks associated with domestic systems
with the supply of their latest combination valve, Multi-
Therm. Paul Jones, Hattersley Area Sales Manager
explained, Multi-Therm helps protect against Legionella
by providing thermal disinfection. Legionella bacteria
will not survive above 60C. Multi-Therm switches off
regulation functions when hot water temperatures are
increased to above 70C and automatically switches to
the disinfection setting.

As well as protection against Legionella, Multi-Therm


also provides self-balancing, thermostatically controlled
regulation of ow, allowing savings in energy consumption
and cost savings through lower commissioning time.

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