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# I have a small MIG welder at home.

## I want to use it for some stick welding, but have

been told I cannot. Why is this? At work we have several different types of welding
machines. Why is it that some can only be used for stick welding and some only for
wire welding, but then other machines can be used for both? I have heard the terms CC
and CV, but what do these mean and why are they important? Finally, our company
has some portable wire feeders with a CV / CC switch inside of them. Does this mean
they can be used with any welding machine?

These are very good questions and ones I am sure that have been asked by many welders.
From a design and arc control standpoint, there are two fundamentally different types of
welding power sources. These include power sources that produce a constant current (CC)
output and power sources that produce a constant voltage (CV) output. Multi-process power
sources are those that contain additional circuitry and components which allows them to
produce both CC and CV output depending on the selected mode.

Note that a welding arc is dynamic, in which current (A) and voltage (V) are changing
constantly. The power source is monitoring the arc and making millisecond changes in order
to maintain a stable arc condition. The term constant is relative. A CC power source will
maintain current at a relatively constant level, regardless of fairly large changes in voltage,
while a CV power source will maintain voltage at a relatively constant level, regardless of
fairly large changes in current. Figure 1 contains graphs of the typical output curves of CC
and CV power sources. Notice at various operating points on the output curve in each graph
how there is relatively little change in one variable, while fairly large changes in the other
variable ( (delta) = difference).

## Figure 1: Output Curves for CC and CV Power

Sources

sources. When pulse welding with many of the newer Waveform Control Technology power
sources, you really cannot consider the output to be strictly CC or CV. Rather, the power
sources are monitoring and changing both voltage and current at extremely fast rates (much
faster than conventional technology power sources), in order to produce very stable arc
welding conditions.

Before discussing the question of CC vs. CV, we must first understand the effects of both
current and voltage with arc welding. Current effects the melt-off rate or consumption rate of
the electrode, whether it be a stick electrode or wire electrode. The higher the current level,
the faster the electrode melts or the higher the melt-off rate, measured in pounds per hour
(lbs/hr) or kilograms per hour (kg/hr). The lower the current, the lower the electrodes melt-off
rate becomes. Voltage controls the length of the welding arc, and resulting width and volume
of the arc cone. As voltage increases, the arc length gets longer (and arc cone broader), while
as it decreases, the arc length gets shorter (and arc cone narrower). Figure 2 illustrates the
effect of voltage in the arc.

## Figure 2: Effect of Arc Voltage

Now the type of welding process you are using, and its associated level of automation,
determines which type of welding output is most stable and thus preferred. The Shielded
Metal Arc Welding (SMAW) process (aka MMAW or stick) and the Gas Tungsten Arc Welding
(GTAW) process (aka TIG) are both generally considered manual processes. This means you
control all welding variables by hand. You hold the electrode holder or TIG torch in your hand
and control travel angle, work angle, travel speed, arc length and the rate in which the
electrode is fed into the joint all by hand. With the SMAW and GTAW processes (i.e. the
manual processes), CC is the preferred type of output from the power source.

Conversely, the Gas Metal Arc Welding (GMAW) process (aka MIG) and the Flux Cored Arc
Welding (FCAW) process (aka flux core) are both generally considered semi-automatic
processes. This means that you still hold the welding gun in your hand and control travel
angle, work angle, travel speed and contact tip to work distance (CTWD)) by hand. However,
the rate in which the electrode is fed into the joint (known as wire feed speed (WFS)) is
controlled automatically with a constant speed wire feeder. With the GMAW and FCAW
processes (i.e. the semi-automatic processes), CV is the preferred output.

## Table 1: Recommended Power Source Output Type by Arc

Welding Process

To utilize a simpler design and keep purchasing costs lower, welding power sources are
generally designed to be used with just one or two types of welding processes. So a basic
stick machine will have CC output only, as it is intended for stick welding only. A TIG machine
will also have CC output only, as it is intended for TIG and stick welding only. Conversely, a
basic MIG machine will have CV output only, as it is intended for MIG and flux core welding
only. Regarding your first question, Why cant I stick weld with my MIG machine, the answer
is because your MIG machine only has CV output, which is not intended or recommended for
stick welding. Conversely, you generally cannot MIG weld with a stick machine with CC
output, because it is the wrong type of output for MIG welding. As mentioned earlier, there are
multi-process welding power sources which can produce both CC and CV output. However,
they are generally more complicated, have higher output capability, intended for industrial
applications and not priced at a basic, entry level welding machine cost range. Figure
3 shows examples of typical CC, CV and multi-process welding machines.

## Figure 3: Example Welding Power Sources by

Output Type
You can create a welding arc with any of the welding processes on either CC or CV type of
output (if you could configure the welding equipment to do so). However, when you use the
preferred type of output for each respective process, the arc conditions are very stable.
However, when you use the wrong type of output with each respective process, the arc
conditions can be very unstable. In most cases, they are so unstable that it makes trying to
maintain an arc impracticable.

Now lets discuss why these last statements are true. With the two manual processes, SMAW
and GTAW, you are controlling all variables by hand (which is why they are the two most
operator skill intensive processes). You need to have the electrode melt at a consistent rate,
so that you can feed it into the joint at a consistent rate. To do this, the welding output needs
to maintain current at a constant level (i.e., CC), so that the resulting melt-off rate is
consistent. Voltage is a less controlling variable. With manual processes, it is very difficult to
consistently maintain the same arc length because you are also constantly feeding the
electrode into the joint. Voltage varies as a result of changes in arc length. With CC output,
current is your preset, controlling variable and voltage is simply measured (typically as an
average value) while welding.

If you tried to weld with the SMAW process for example using CV output, current, and the
resulting melt-off rate, would vary too much. As you were traveling along the joint (trying to be
consistent with all other welding variables), the electrode would melt at a faster rate, then a
slower rate, then a faster rate, etc. You would constantly need to change the rate in which you
fed the electrode into the joint. This is an impracticable condition, thus making CV output
undesirable.

## When you switch to a semi-automatic process, such as GMAW or FCAW, something

changes. While you are still controlling many of the welding variables by hand, the electrode
is being fed into the joint at a constant speed (based on the particular WFS you have set on
the wire feeder). Now you want the arc length to be consistent. To do this, the welding output
needs to maintain voltage at a constant level (i.e., CV), so that the resulting arc length is
consistent. Current is a less controlling variable. It is proportional to, or a result of, the WFS.
As WFS increases, so does current and vice versa. With CV output, voltage and WFS are
your preset, controlling variables and current is simply measured while welding.

If you tried to weld with the GMAW or FCAW processes using CC output, voltage, and the
resulting arc length, would vary too much. As voltage decreased, arc length would become
very short and the electrode would stub into the plate. Then as voltage increased, arc length
would become very long and the electrode would burn back towards the contact tip. The
electrode would be constantly stubbing into the plate, then burning back towards the tip, then
stubbing into the plate, etc. This is an impracticable condition, thus making CC output
undesirable.

As a side note, it is also common to fully automate the GTAW, GMAW and FCAW welding
processes. In the case of full automation, all variables are controlled by a machine and held at
a constant angle, distance or rate. Therefore there is less change in the arc conditions.
However, the preferred output type for automated GTAW is still CC and for automated GMAW
and FCAW is still CV. The fifth common arc welding process, Submerged Arc Welding (SAW)
(aka sub-arc), is typically an automated process as well. With SAW, either CC or CV output is
commonly used. The determining factors as to which output type is best are generally
electrode diameter, travel speed and size of weld puddle. With semi-automatic SAW, CV is
the preferred type of output.

Your last question was about portable style wire feeders (see example in Figure 4). This is a
piece of equipment that allows you go against the basic rules just covered in this article to
an extent. They are designed primarily for field welding applications and have three unique
features compared to conventional shop style wire feeders. One, the wire is enclosed inside
a hard plastic case for better protection and durability in the field. Two, they do not require a
control cable to power the drive motor, but rather use a voltage sensing lead from the wire
feeder. So hook up is simple, just requiring the use of the power sources existing welding
cable (and the addition of a gas hose). Three, they do have the ability to operate with a CC
power source, but with LIMITED success. They do have a CC/CV toggle switch in which you
select the type of output from the power source.

When these portable style wire feeders first came out, the theory was that they could be used
with a large existing base of CC power sources already in the field (most primarily engine
driven welders) and thus now give fabricators GMAW and FCAW (i.e. wire welding) capability.
Instead of having to buy a brand new CV power source, they only needed to get the wire
feeder. To compensate for the fluctuations in voltage which you get with CC output, these
wire feeders have extra circuitry which slows the wire feed speed response to changes in
voltage, in an attempt to help stabilize the arc (note that on CC, wire feed speed is no longer
constant, but rather it continually increases and decreases in an attempt to keep current at a
constant output).

## Figure 4: Example Portable Style Wire Feeder

The reality of wire welding with CC output is that it works fairly well with some applications
and poorly with others. There is relatively good arc stability with the gas-shielded flux cored
(FCAW-G) process and the GMAW process when in a spray arc or pulse spray arc mode of
metal transfer. However, arc stability is still very erratic and unacceptable with the self-
shielded flux cored (FCAW-S) and the GMAW process when in a short circuit transfer mode
of metal transfer. While voltage varies with CC output, processes that generally operate at
higher voltages (i.e., 24V or more), such as FCAW-G and spray arc or pulse spray arc MIG,
are less sensitive to the voltage variations experienced with CC output. Therefore arc stability
is pretty good. Whereas processes such as short circuit MIG and FCAW-S, which generally
operate at lower voltage settings (i.e., 22V or less), are more sensitive to voltage
variations. Therefore arc stability is much worse and generally considered unacceptable.
Another factor with FCAW-S electrodes on CC output is that excessive arc voltages and
resulting longer arc lengths can in essence over expose the arc to the atmosphere. This can
potentially result in weld porosity and/or a sharp decrease in the weld metals low temperature
impact toughness.

As a final note, CV output is ALWAYS recommended for wire welding. Therefore, when using
these portable style wire feeders with a power source that has CV output capability, use it
instead of the CC output. Finally, while CC output can be acceptable for general purpose
FCAW-G and spray arc and pulse spray arc MIG welding, it is not recommended for code
quality work.