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Assistance Request 1-5545833
Customer Ticket N/A
Description activation
Summary
Outage No
Severity 3
Priority 3
Category Other
Internal Yes
Assignment Events
Product
Product 9370 RNC
Product Location
Site ETISALAT ABU DHABI
Contact
Name Karim IBRAHIM ABD EL NABY
Dates
Occurred 20-Jan-2015 22:09 Time now 29-Aug-2015 13:06
(GMT+4)
Entitlement
Agreement 242895 (OXIA 627085)
People
Owner TSCd-WLS-WCDMA-IN : pthota
Submitter glipski
Description
Attachments
2. 20-Jan-2015 22:49
pthota
<karim.ibrahim@alcatel-lucent.com>
AYMAN
<Ahmed.El-Midany@alcatel-lucent.com>
Hello,
activation,
Region : EMEA
Severity : 3
Priority : 3
Internal/External: :Internal
--
Best Regards,
Karim Ibrahim
M(UAE): +971-56-354-4568
M(Egy): +2010-668-44-810
4. 22-Jan-2015 11:09
pthota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
WTK_JOBSERVER-00114.*
build_log_xxx_xxxx_xx_xx_xx_xx_xx.log
Please provide below files from RNC
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Praveen,
@/srv/data202256/data/server/Traces/from_france/ETISALAT_UAE/AR 1-5545833 ,
server
details below,
Please note that we already have Audit fail on RNC235 because the
parameter "the
MeasurementConfClass/0 FullEventRepCritShoMgt/0
FullEventRepCritShoMgtEvent1A/0
needs to be changed from infinity to 16 for the Audit to pass" but it's
known
When yesterday we modified the parameter and did audit to the RNC, the
audit
completed with the attached warning which all related to CTB traces,
I just mention the audit issue as a note for you but it's not the main
target of
the AR, we need to know the RC why the CTB stopped with error while
Server details:
SFTP://172.25.80.47
user: ftraces
password: Elv24trf
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
I am checking for the NACK message sent by RNC when the trace was stopped
with
Errors.
"NACK happened when RNC does not like something in the MIB and does not
know what
to do with it so RNC send a NACK message to OAM when mib build fail"
As per the Image the CTB trace was started on 18-01-2015 03:48AM. But I am
not
finding the logs for that date in RNC or WMS. So please check for the
corresponding date logs or start the ctb trace again and request you to
provide
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
Apart from Logs I may need some more information to understand the issue
better.
1) Please confirm whether this is the first time CTB trace was started on
this RNC
on 18th Jan?
No , the CTB trace was working fine before, also a week before we
launched a CTB
trace on the RNC normally but the output trace files was empty!.
2) CTB trace was started on 18th Jan and it stopped with errors? Whether
it has
3) Any changes done on RNC before trace start time or preceding days?
@ 18th Jan we had activity to add 2 new MSC to the RNC, but we already
applied
the WOs before this date about 3 weeks, Also I performed @ 18th Lp/0
switchover as
the new MSCs Assoc was up but the signaling down (CS new components were
down), so
4) As per below the parameter change happened on 20th Jan and after that
Audit
completed with warnings, before it was okay and there was no issue in audit
when
The Audit failure is exiting on the RNC after LR13.3 intra upgrade and
it was
parameter , so I changed ot to try the MIB audit and see if it will give
any new
5) Please provide any other details if you have related to this issue.
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hello Praveen,
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Subject: RE: AR 1-5545833//Minor//9370 RNC -235//Emirates
Telecommunications
Hi Karim,
As per below there is some traces exist in WMS, Please confirm all traces
are
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Do you mean that there are a hanging trace session? From NSP no active CTB
traces
on RNC235.
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
results.
NSP or WICL.
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hello Praveen,
Please note that I performed list check using WICL and only TraceSession
{TraceSession trial_UMAINSERV1}
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
and share the results. Also provide logs when you run CTB again in this
RNC.
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
(AHMED)
Hi Praveen,
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
Escalating this AR to TEC for support, suspecting issue with MIB audit
inconsistencies.
1 - DESCRIPTION TEMPLATE
SUMMARY: RNC235 CTB trace stopped with Errors with message "RNC/RNC235'
rejects
Cause: CAUS_NS"
Impact (partial, full outage on RNC...): No Outage, Not able to run CTB
trace.
Patch release:
Reproducible: Yes
PROBLEM DETAILS:
3. TSC/TIS analysis: When verified through wicl, found some trace sessions
which
were not present in NSP. deleted them manually with Wicl and performed
MIB audit, but again condition was same. In MIB audit we have observed
warnings
are not exist in RNC. So unable to correct them. we suspect CTB trace
stopped with
Errors due to the warnings of MIB audit. these warnings are pointed to
Access session and issue is with CTB trace only. CTG is not having any
issue as
per AR requestor.
CONFIGURATION:
IMPACT:
CTB trace.
HISTORY:
2. How the issue was detected by customer or local ALU support (via KPIs
4. What actions were performed before or in time when the issue begun
(feature
5. What recovery actions have been done & with what results: removed the
trace
MIB rebuild not tried since there is inconsistencies in MIB audit. we need
TEC
/srv/data202256/data/server/Traces/from_france/ETISALAT_UAE/AR 1-5545833
LogCollection_RNC235_full_20150121_194536.tar.gz.
3. network snapshot.
2. Below logs are collected and uploaded on France server : file name -
AR_1-5545833_Logs_21012015.rar.
and WTK_JOBSERVER-00114.*
build_log_xxx_xxxx_xx_xx_xx_xx_xx.log
: blogOMUx.xxxxxxxxTxxxxxx.tmp file
History : There is already one AR related to MIB audit failed for this
RNC235
(1-5351273), Later CR created for the same., GPS provided WA as one WO to
run
propagate to the RNC then MIB rebuild can be used to update this parameter
with
We tested CTB creation with such MIB audit failure in our lab and CTB IMSI
The issue of CTB creation is not related to this MIB audit failure.
It is found OMU log warning for each occurence of CTB IMSI creation failure
with 6 inconsistencies.
File: "utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT
|-logs
| +-log[0]
| | |-id -> 0
| | |-severity -> 0
| +-log[1]
| | |-id -> 1
| | |-severity -> 1
| +-log[2]
| | |-id -> 2
| | |-severity -> 0
href="utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT">
| +-log[3]
| |-id -> 3
| |-severity -> 0
processing_sessionctb_trca_Trca_SessionCTb_inst returns : 1
+++++++++++
WMS log for MIB audit execution report this error in file
wms_cm_mediationserver-20001.tra
<WMS_CM_ItAuditManager_i::computeNextTge> Succeeded
<WMS_CM_ItAuditManager_i::computeNextTge>
class-name | CId:13474310
CallTrace/0 AccessSession/0"
-cd:
<administrativeState>
<locked/>
</administrativeState>
<duration>240</duration>
<datafileUploadSize>524288</datafileUploadSize>
<datafileUploadPeriod>15</datafileUploadPeriod>
<externalSessionId>378</externalSessionId>
class-name | CId:13474310
AccessSession/0 TraceFilter/0
class-name | CId:13474310
AccessSession/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 NbapDedicatedMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
2015/01/20-11:35:55,173+04:00 | AuditMed.cc:390 | Thr:20 | EXT | component-
name |
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 RrcDedicatedMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 UePositionMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0
It is suspected such parameter was changed to make the audit successful and
report
the inconsistencies.
MeasurementConfClass/0 FullEventRepCritShoMgt/0
FullEventRepCritShoMgtEvent1A/0
| |-userData
| | |-neDn -> RNC/RNC235
"cmXML/CMSessions/20150120/Online+Commands/RNC_RNC235_validate_201501201124
24_0.ht
ml"
And again ON LINE command was executed a second time to set back the value
which
| |-userData
"cmXML/CMSessions/20150120/Online+Commands/RNC_RNC235_validate_201501201148
45_0.ht
ml"
++++++++++
==========
1) Check and provide MIB audit result file showing the 6 inconsistencies
| +-log[2]
| | |-id -> 2
| | |-severity -> 0
href="utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT">
| +-log[3]
| |-id -> 3
| |-severity -> 0
Record RNC commit provisioning name with telnet session "d pr"
This MIB backup could be studied afterwards if MIB rebuild was not going to
fix
3) Check if CTB IMSI session are already created for that RNC in WMS
database
WICL
call trace wizzard then you should be able to create the new one you
expect.
++++++++
You could temporary change change back the parameter value to 16 to get the
MIB
audit not failed anymore. This might indicate with the MIB completion the
RNC MIB but not WMS database from the MIB audit result.
This seems what was already executed on site on 20th Jan 2015 (two ON
LINE
++++++++
- RncFullLogCollection.
Here example for lab RNC73
/opt/nortel/data/utran/NEImage/RNC/RNC73
RNC73_20150123_101244.tar.gz
==========
8. 25-Jan-2015 13:17
pthota
Update to Current Summary: Jan 25 : provided TEC update to the site team,
waiting
9. 28-Jan-2015 09:55
pthota
Update to Current Summary: Jan 28 : provided TEC update to the site team,
waiting
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
propagate to the RNC then MIB rebuild can be used to update this parameter
with
We tested CTB creation with such MIB audit failure in our lab and CTB IMSI
The issue of CTB creation is not related to this MIB audit failure.
Current logs analysis from the customer site
++++++++++
It is found OMU log warning for each occurence of CTB IMSI creation failure
with 6 inconsistencies.
File: "utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT
|-logs
| +-log[0]
| | |-id -> 0
| | |-severity -> 0
| +-log[1]
| | |-id -> 1
| | |-severity -> 1
| +-log[2]
| | |-id -> 2
| | |-severity -> 0
href="utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT">
| +-log[3]
| |-id -> 3
| |-severity -> 0
processing_sessionctb_trca_Trca_SessionCTb_inst returns : 1
+++++++++++
WMS log for MIB audit execution report this error in file
wms_cm_mediationserver-20001.tra
<WMS_CM_ItAuditManager_i::computeNextTge> Succeeded
<WMS_CM_ItAuditManager_i::computeNextTge>
class-name | CId:13474310
CallTrace/0 AccessSession/0"
-cd:
<administrativeState>
<locked/>
</administrativeState>
<duration>240</duration>
<datafileUploadSize>524288</datafileUploadSize>
<datafileUploadPeriod>15</datafileUploadPeriod>
<externalSessionId>378</externalSessionId>
class-name | CId:13474310
AccessSession/0 TraceFilter/0
class-name | CId:13474310
AccessSession/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 NbapDedicatedMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 RrcDedicatedMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0 UePositionMeasConfigForCallTrace/0
class-name | CId:13474310
extern: Adding missing OMC Object in the diff tree: RNC/0 CallTrace/0
AccessSession/0
It is suspected such parameter was changed to make the audit successful and
report
the inconsistencies.
MeasurementConfClass/0 FullEventRepCritShoMgt/0
FullEventRepCritShoMgtEvent1A/0
| |-userData
"cmXML/CMSessions/20150120/Online+Commands/RNC_RNC235_validate_201501201124
24_0.ht
ml"
And again ON LINE command was executed a second time to set back the value
which
| |-userData
"cmXML/CMSessions/20150120/Online+Commands/RNC_RNC235_validate_201501201148
45_0.ht
ml"
++++++++++
==========
1) Check and provide MIB audit result file showing the 6 inconsistencies
| +-log[2]
| | |-id -> 2
| | |-severity -> 0
href="utran/AuditResult/RNC_RNC235_20150120113837_NC.xml"
target="XML_AUDIT">
| +-log[3]
| |-id -> 3
| |-severity -> 0
Record RNC commit provisioning name with telnet session "d pr"
This MIB backup could be studied afterwards if MIB rebuild was not going to
fix
3) Check if CTB IMSI session are already created for that RNC in WMS
database
WICL
0" instance.
call trace wizzard then you should be able to create the new one you
expect.
++++++++
You could temporary change change back the parameter value to 16 to get the
MIB
audit not failed anymore. This might indicate with the MIB completion the
RNC MIB but not WMS database from the MIB audit result.
This seems what was already executed on site on 20th Jan 2015 (two ON
LINE
++++++++
- RncFullLogCollection.
/opt/nortel/data/utran/NEImage/RNC/RNC73
RNC73_20150123_101244.tar.gz
==========
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hello Praveen,
Thanks for your feedback, So finally it's recommended to perform RNC
Rebuild to
solve this issue but from below we don't receive the RC , Why the CTB fail?
, also
for next we should change the parameter with MIB Rebuild not online?.
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
(AHMED)
Hi Karim,
===========================================================================
=======
=============================================
Yes, please execute MIB rebuild operation on this RNC235.
About the RCA on the CTB inconsistency with object not existing in the WMS
but
being present in RNC, it will be difficult to find but you can collect all
issue occurred more than one one month ago then we will not have logs for
that. It
image backup) every two weeks or every month (but every month is a limit
with risk
Now about the CR 1356516 and old AR 1-5351273 (2 options are proposed).
It was advised to get the MIB audit successful (as initially reported by
one site
team).
Audit to pass".
value "16", i checked in our lab what kind of additional work-around could
be
used. CR owner reported the SET ONLINE command is not implemented until
LR13.3.B.
But this parameter can be updated with MIB rebuild as verified in our lab.
This is
get the MIB audit successful. It is not advised at all to keep the MIB
audit
===========================================================================
=======
=============================================
Praveen Thota
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
Hello Praveen,
Kindly note that the RNC235 rebuild done , Audit after is OK without
warning or
erros as attached also CTB trace is working fine.
Please note we back the parameter again to infinity in order don't have any
KPIs
Will keep you updated if we face any issue related to this issue.
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
Hello Praveen,
Thanks to close the AR, the issue solved as I mentioned below, and I tested
again
the Audit &CTB and both OK.
Thanks,
--
BR,
Karim
M: +971 (0)56-354-4568
WAGDY MANSOUR, AYMAN (AYMAN)** CTR **; ZAHABI, RAMSEY (RAMSEY); EL-MIDANY,
AHMED
Hi Karim,
Praveen Thota