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AHKUSSUNNAH VS ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF JHELUM

SOME CONUNDRUMS FOR


ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF
JHELUM IN REGARD TO
HIS CONCEPTION OF
TYPES OF KNOWLEDGE
A CRITIQUE OF ONLY TWO TYPES OF
KNOWLEDGE IN THE SECTERIAN SYSTEM OF
EBGINEER ALI MIRZA OF JHELUM CITY
HUSAM
8/19/2017

Engineer Ali Mirza Of Jhelum Believes In Only In Two Types Of Knowledge and Discards Any Other Kind
Of Knowledge. This Implies Some Problems Which Are Unsolvable. They Are Discussed In This Article.
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A CRITIQUE OF ONLY TWO TYPES OF


KNOWLEDGE IN THE SECTERIAN SYSTEM OF
EBGINEER ALI MIRZA OF JHELUM CITY

Engineer Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum City Panja:b is a great heretic and his heresy surpasses the heresies of
some great heretics of the past. He is beyond any shadow of doubt a nemesis of Truth of Ahlussunnah
Wal Jama:ah and Isla:m ,. He divides knowledge in only two types,

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1] Revealed Knowledge or Knowledge Obtained by Revelation.

2] Knowledge Obtained by Experiments and Observations.

Revelation

The word Revelation is used in the meaning of Vah:y [Aspiration].

The word Revelation is derived from Latin word revelationem (nominative revelatio),
noun of action from past participle stem of revelare "unveil, uncover, lay bare".
Generally used as disclosure of information to man by a divine or supernatural agency.

Experiment

This word is derived from Latin word experientia "a trial, proof, experiment;
knowledge gained by repeated trials," from experientem (nominative experiens)
"experienced, enterprising, active, industrious," present participle of experiri "to try, test,"
from ex- "out of" (see ex-) + peritus "experienced, tested," from PIE *per-yo-, suffixed
form of root *per- (3) "to try, risk." Meaning "state of having done something and gotten
handy at it" is.

Experiment is a method or a procedure or a test carried out under some controlled conditions to
discover an unknown effect or law, to test or establish a hypothesis, or to illustrate a known law or two
verify a known theory.In an Act of Experiment the agent of the Act performs a series of acts and
observe their effects .

Observaton

This word is derived from a Latin word observre, which means "to attend to"to watch over
,from Latin word observationem (nominative observatio) "a watching over, noun of action from
past participle stem of observare "watch over, to attend to.

An act or instance of viewing or noting a fact or occurrence for some scientific or other special purpose.

Engineer combine Observation and Experiments the sources of knowledge to constitute a type of
Knowledge. This means that any information obtained from only observation with out experiment or
only experiment with out observation is not knowledge according to the Engineer Of Jhelum if any .

Now we are in a position to see the problems in the division of Knowledge in only two types based upon

the sources of knowledge as proposed ( 1) by the Engineer Of Jhelum.


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It it is accepted that there are only two types of Knowledges [Astaghfarullah] then different types of
Kufrs [infidelities] are implied and they are shown as written below:

1] Ijtiha:d of Holy Prophet ceaseth to be Knowledge.

As Divine Revelation is a Type of Knowledge , the Ijtiha:d of Holy Prophet if Not Corrected By Divine
Prophet is a Type of Knowledge. But if Engineers view is accepted then it ceaseth to be a type of
Knowledge [Astagh:farullah].

Since the Ijtiha:d is not the Act of Divine Essence but the Act of Prophet and Revelation is the Act of
Divine Essence and not the Act of of Prophet Who is a Creation of Uncreated Divine Essence . So it
cannot be a Revelation. Furthur there is no Revelation either in support or in against an Ijtiha:d of
Prophet. It is purely a Non Contradiction and It is not due to a Supporting Revelation by by Non
Occurrence of Revelation on the Particular Ijtiha:d of Holy Prophet. Additionally An Ijtiha:d is neither an
Experiment nor it is directly observable , rather it is conveyed by meance/sources of oral or written
traditions so it cannot be included in any one of the only two types of Knowledge in the System of
Engineer of Jhelum known as Engineer Ali: Mirza: . So an Ijtihad from Murfu:a:t or Akh:ba:r are not
included in Knowledge even if they are S:ah:i:h: in regard to chain of reporters. [Astagh:farullah].

So this implieth that unless and other wise Knowledge obtained by the
source of Ijtiha:d is an Independent type of Knowledge it cannot by
accepted. But the System of Engineer Ali cannot accept it. So it is not a
Type Of Knowledge in the Heretic System of the Engineer.

2] A:th:a:r or Mauqu:fa:t

Engineer Ali: Mirza: cannot accept the A:th:ar or Mauqu:fa:t as any source of Knowledge since they
are Non Revelation ; they are neither Obtained From Experiments Nor By Observation. Since to observe
an Event is one thing and to receive a tradition or a report about the event is an other thing . The latter
is not an Observation of the Event. So In this system any information what so ever it may be conveyed
by means/sources of Ath:a:r is not included in Knowledge. So he in a single stroke is compelled to deny
all Ath:ar if he is loyal to his system in regard to only two types of Knowledge.

3] Taqri:r of Holy Prophet.

Taqri:r OF Holy Prophet is neither Revelation nor an Experiment nor observed directly by the receivers
of traditions of Taqri:t. This implies that Taqri:r is not included in any type of Knowledge even if it is
conveyed by a Tradition of First Category [S:ah:i:h:] in the system of the Engineer of Jhelum.

4] Ijma:

Information obtained from Ijma: cannot be included in any Type Of Knowledge if the system of the
Engineer Of Jhelum is assumed to be Correct.

The reasonings are as follow:=

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Ijma: on any particular issue is not Reveletaion. So it excludes the firt type of knowledge accepted as
legitimate by the Engineer of Jhelum City [Panja:b, Pakistan].

It is Neither Obtained by Experiments Nor Obtained by Observations of the act of Establishment of


Ijma:. So it excludes the second type of the Knowledge in the System of the Engineer From Jhelum.
Since these are the only types of Knowledge so the Engineer is compelled to deny each and every Ijma:
what so ever it may be , if he is loyal to his system.

5] Arabic Grammar.

On similar grounds he cannot accept Arabic Grammar [Syntax/Nah:v and Marphology/S:-r-f] . So


Arabic without Grammar makes it impossible to understand Qura:n and Ah:adi:th: . So this is the
consequence of this Horrible System of the Engineer of Jhelum. Since Divine REVELATION AL QURA:N is
in Arabic , the system implies that Revelation is Unknowable so it ceaseth to be included in any type of
Knowledge if the Inconsistent system of the Engineer is Correct. [Astaghfarullah]

6] Arabic Laxicons and Dictionaries.

Words and their Meanings are necessary to understand a language. Unfortunately in the System of the
Engineer Of Jhelum Knows as Muh:ammad Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum all the meanings of the words of
Arabic in Particular and Other Languages like Latin, Greek, Sanskrit, German, Englih, Persian, Sindhi:
etc. in general become meaningless . Since he cannot accept them in any type of Knowledge as in his
system. The consequence of denial of meanings of Arabic Words leads to the Denial of Qura:n the
Arabic Revelation. Arabic is the key to the Heavens. So Denying Arabic implies Pure Kufr.

Engineers system implies that Arabic Revelation [Al Qura:n] is meaning less [Astaghfarullah], and that
is tis constituted from Meaninless words [Astagh:farullah]. This is the ultimate result of the Engineers
system which is pure Infidelity.

7] Type of Revelation

There are two types of Revelations [Vah:y/Inspiration] . 1] Matlu: 2] Gh:air Matlu:

Wise Engineer did not mentioned which type of Revelation he meant.

1] If he meant the first type then he is a denouncer of all traditions of Vah:y Gh:air Matlu: and is
compelled to reject them regardless of their Categories [ S:ah:i:h: or H:asan or D:ai:f].

He he meant the second he his compelled to reject Holy Qura:n.

If he claims that he used the word as a general term for each one of the two types of Revelation Matlu:
and Gh:air Matlu, then he is clearly deceiving his audiences since he did not mentioned it for a single
time in his those lectures he discussed the types of Knowledge. The word Revelation is used for Matlu:
in his lectures in General.

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But suppose that he may be given a benefit of doubt . So the question is when a Gh:ait Matlu Revelation
was descended on Holy Prophet , He used to chose Arabic Words and then to Make Sentences to
Express the Gh:air Matlu: Revelation. This was an act of Expression of the Gh:air Matlu: Tradition. An Act
of Holy Prophet, which is neither Revelation, nor Experiment nor Observation. But a pure act of Holy
Mind Of Holy Prophet. We consider the Mind Of Holy Prophet as an Independent Source Of Knowledge.
So any Information Obtained from the Source of Mind Of Holy Prophet is Knowledge beyond any
Shadow of Doubt. But In the Engineers system it cannot be [Astaghfarullah]. Mental Activities in the
mind of Holy Prophet in regard to Gh:air Matlu: Revelations are the Immanent and Intrinsic Acts of Mind
Of Holy Pophet and Independent types of Knowledge.

Note this is Not Ilm ;Al Gh:aib but either a Ijtiha:d or a Prerequisite of Ijtih:ad of Holy Prophet as
discussed above . So Engineer Ali: Mirza: cannot accept any Vah:y Gh:air Matlu: due to this hidden
problem in his system.

Foot Notes:

(1)
An Ijtiha:d of Holy Prophet is Not a Revelation neither Matlu: nor Gha:I Matlu. Divine Essence Hath
the Right and Power to Abrogate it. It could be Abrogated be Holy Prophet Himself, either on
request or by an other Ijtiha:d or due to obtaining some more knowledge by by any other source,
or by change of situation. In the Event of Pen and Paper, Holy Prophet Abrogated his first Order in
regard to bringing of Pen and Paper due to the new situation which occurred. So As Holy Prophet
did Abrogated His Previous Commandment , it implies that the commandment was just a Ijtiha:d
which was replaced by a Better one i.e not to bring the two stationery goods and matterials i.e Pen
[QALAM] and Paper [Q-RT:A:S].

[ Stationery : any writing materials, such as papers, envelopes, pens,pensils,bollpoints ink, rulers, etc. But it still include pen
and paper so the word Stationery is correctly applicable to the instruments pertaining to writing in the Tradition stated
above. So if it annoys any one he must correct himself. We have used this word for a special reason. ]

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF ALI MIRZA OF


JHELUM

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How may more eveidences or proofs


you require to be convinced that this
Engineer is Heretic and has such
foundations in mind which motivate
intrinsically to become a denouncer
of Ah:adi:th: . For The Sake of ALL-H
please stop following this person . It
is our responsibility to inform you.
You are Informed.
NOTE:
THE AUTHOR IS NOT
RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY
DISTORTION OF MEANING DUE
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TO TYPING PROBLEM
AHKUSSUNNAH VS
SINCE IT IS THE
ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF
JHELUM

HUSAM ERROR OF TYPING IF


ANY. HOW EVER IT
MUST IMMEDIATLELY BE
CORRECTED IF DETECTED.

[SOME CONUNDRUMS FOR


ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF
JHELUM IN REGARD TO HIS
CONCEPTION OF TYPES OF
KNOWLEDGE]
Engineer Ali Mirza Of Jhelum Believes In Only In Two Types Of Knowledge and Discards Any Other Kind
Of Knowledge. This Implies Some Problems Which Are Unsolvable. They Are Discussed In This Article.

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B,b=

T,t=
Th:,th:=
J,j=
H:,h:=
Kh:,kh:=
D,d=
Dh:,dh:=
R,r=
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Z,z=
S,s=
Sh,sh.Sch,sch,=
S:,s:=
D:,d:=
T:,t:=
Z:,z:=
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Gh:,gh:=
F,f,Ph,ph=
Q,q=
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K,k,C,c=
L,l=
M,m=
N,n=
H,h=
T,t/h,H

V,v,W,w=
Y,y=
Vowels

Short

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A,a [as A/a in Sugar, E,e in Per, as U,u in But, as I/I in Sir] =
I,i [as I/i in Pin,Tin,] =
U,u [As U/u in Put, as oo in Book] =
Long Vowel

A: ,a:[As A/a in Car,Father] =


I:,i: [As I in Police, as ee in Week] =
U:,u: [As U in Rude, as oo in Cool] =
The symbols on case of
vowels in red colour are
optional
Some time the symbol - is used to omit a Marked Vowel for example Kita:b may be written as K-ta:b, sometime this is used to denote
an Accent, eg Akbaru may be written as Ak-baru, some time it is used to present both of the stated above in a single transliterated
Arabic Word as follow: Ak-b-ru or Ak-b-r- and so one.

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