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28th February 2007 James Bannan Vista,


Windows

Scenario: You want to install Vista on your PC


alongside your XP installation, on the same
drive. You have installed Vista already. (If you
have XP installed first, check out our earlier
tutorial on how to dual boot Vista and XP with
XP installed first.)

Tutorial Summary: We're going to use


Windows Vista to shrink the Vista partition on
the hard disk and create enough space for an
installation of Vista. We'll then install Vista and
use the EasyBCD utility to tell Vista's
bootloader to refer to XP by its name.

This tutorial was carried out on a Windows


Vista based system running on an 80GB hard
drive which started with the Vista partition
taking up the entire drive. It was also tested in
VMWare 5.5.3 Workstation.

Prepare Windows Vista


This tutorial assumes that Vista has been
installed on a partition which takes up 100% of
the hard drive, so we need to create some
space. Boot off the Vista DVD. Hit Next from
the start screen and then select “Install now”.
(If Vista came preinstalled on your machine
and you don't have a Vista install DVD, you
can use the Gnome Partition Editor Gparted to
do it. Our earlier tutorial on dual-booting XP
and Vista if you've installed XP first describes
how to use it.)

Install Vista

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1: How about OSX


How come there are a couple of guides for
installing Windows with Linux and Windows
with Windows, but there does not seem to be
any on installing Windows with Mac OSX, or is
just too easy that a guide is not needed?
reply deryckw (15 days ago)

2: On a Mac it's very easy with


On a Mac it's very easy with Apple Boot
Camp, and on a PC, it's illegal :-)
reply Dan Warne (15 days ago)

3: Understatement!
"Windows Vista is not ready for prime time."
That is the understatement of the century. Do
you want to hear a very funny joke? I bought
Windows Vista Ultimate. The WOW starts
NOW. Yeah sure. More like when hell freezes
over or when I finally buy a MAC.
reply JR (15 days ago)

4: i don't get why you need to


i don't get why you need to boot with vista disc
just to shrink the drive. can't you just do it within
vista's disk management as detailed below?
http://www.bleepingco…orials/tutorial133.html#sh
reply wilkie (15 days ago)

5: You can use the embedded


You can use the embedded tool or the DVD
- there's no actual requirement to do it either
way. I was just demonstrating the DVD
method because it uses DISKPART from
within Windows PE 2.0 and is just rather
nifty.
You could certainly use the GUI or
DISKPART from within the OS.
reply James Bannan (14 days ago)

6: Vista then XP
Or you could just install MS Virtual Workstation
2007 which seems to run ok under Vista and is
free.
reply dicko (14 days ago)

7: Thanks...
Nice article... thanks a million.
reply Jigga (14 days ago)

8: Cannot get it
I think this is a good step by step guide but I
cannot understand why there would be a need
to dual boot Vista with XP. If you have installed
Vista and for some reason you need XP then
you can have that XP install in a virtual
environment instead without going the dual boot
way.
reply Wes (14 days ago)

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9: Dual-boot is still the king


Virtual environments have come a long, long
way, but the more you work with them, you
realize there are some things you just can't
expect to do. Especially for a gamer like
myself - there's no way you can run a game
that won't run under Vista (and there's a
bunch at this point) - in a virtual environment.
Dual-booting gives you full native access to
either O/S with no simulation layers and
problems to get in the way. I've been doing it
this way since Windows 95 and NT 3.51 -
and there's no better way to go!
reply Hagar (14 days ago)

10: Gaming under Vista is pretty


Gaming under Vista is pretty bad at the
moment. That is one excellent reason to
keep a native partition of XP on hand...
reply JimmyConga (6 days ago)

11: Nice article, exactly what I


Nice article, exactly what I have been searching
for. My problem is this PC only came with a
"restore" disk and so don't have the option of
doing a repair install to fix the corrupt
bootloader. Anyone have any suggestions?
reply Craig (14 days ago)

12: You can do it from XP.


You can do it from XP. Install SP2, .NET
Framework 2.0, then EasyBCD. Run BCD,
click Manage Bootloader. Select Reinstall
the Vista Bootloader, then click write. Reboot
and it should boot into Vista. From there you
can install and run BCD. Click ADD/Remove
Entries, and add an entry for XP and save it.
That should be it.
reply Skippy (14 days ago)

13: I couldn't boot into


I couldn't boot into anything....Vista or XP.
Now I have a copy of Vista so I got the
repair done so I can boot into Vista.
I downloaded EasyBCD and ran it per
instructions. On reboot I get both options:
Vista or XP but when I try to boot to XP, I
get another error blah, blah, "File: \ntdlr".
XP never finished setting up?!?!? How do
I get past this?
Thanks
reply Craig (13 days ago)

14: I have the same problem


I am having the same problem. The
dual boot is set up. I can run vista fine.
I keep getting the "File: /ntdlr" is
missing or corrupt. Any ideas?
reply Reuben (13 days ago)

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15: /ntdlr missing or corrupt


copy ntdetect.com and ntdlr from
the /i386 directory on the XP CD to
your XP drive, eg, copy e:\i386\ntldr
c:\
and copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
reply James (7 days ago)

16: Just did that but I get the


Just did that but I get the same
error ??
reply Cally (6 days ago)

17: I had the same problem with


I had the same problem with my Sony VAIO
n250e.
You cannot do this without a vista install dvd.
Don't even try or you will be pulling your hair
out. Even though theres other forums with
information how to do this using vistaboot
pro, I could never get that program working. I
suggest you have someone download you a
torrent of the dvd so you can get yourself an
illegal copy. Your Vista key should be on the
bottom of your computer.
Good luck.
reply drew (14 days ago)

18: Great Article


Great. Couldn't have done it without the article.
I had a couple different issues making it work.
After installing XP, the Vista startup repair did
not work for me (several unsuccessful
attempts). So I installed SP2 for XP and
EasyBCD. Running BCD from XP, I ran
Manage Bootloader and reinstalled the Vista
bootloader. Then booted into Vista and installed
BCD and Added an entry for XP.
reply bigphil (14 days ago)

19: Great Help


I have been trying to dual boot for about 2
weeks now. i bought a windows vista computer
and i wanted to put xp on the 2nd partiioned
hard drive. i have been able to install XP but
never knew how to get back. i ended up having
to reinstall vista a few times. without this guide i
would be racking my brain still. i just wanted to
say thank you for the guide. It is very well done
and very informative.
reply Robert C. (10 days ago)

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20: xp 64??
Hello there, does it works on XP 64? im ok with
the vista boot recover and with easyBCD but xp
just wont load (blank screen) after selecting
boot. Playing arround with BCD I noticed (in the
view settings TAB) entry #2 this:
Name: Windows XP
BCD ID:
{2c82aa72-cb94-11db-8660-0015f2e6ae3c}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \ntldr
Windows Directory:
Although i put D when creating the entry it's still
on C, so I changed the drive to D:\( in configure
Boot TAb)which is the xp64 boot drive, but
nothing happens.
Is there a problem with NLTDR? or the blank
windows directory (I was unable to change it on
easyBCD).
THANKS!!!
reply engo (9 days ago)

21: Can't get XP to install on Vista computer.


I bought a brand new Vista system and installed
a second drive with the intention of installing XP
on the second drive for dual boot. However, I
can't even get the XP installation started. When
I try to boot to the XP DVD it gets past all the
loading of files and right up to "starting
windows" and then I get a blue screen that says
"A problem has been detected and Windows
has been shut down to prevent damage to your
computer...". The only English in the "technical
information" part of the message is "pci.sys".
Has anyone encountered a problem like this?
Any suggestions for getting past it?
reply mansart (9 days ago)

22: yes. i have this problem as


yes. i have this problem as well, at least the
"blue screen" with a message about "pci.sys"
on a new Dell Inspiron 9400 with Vista Home
Basic preinstalled when trying to boot from
an XPPro CD (trying to setup a dual boot
Vista / XP installation) not from the
installation DVD. Dell support is kind of
sketchy on the answer. The actually advised
me to look for Internet articles like this ?!?
and seemed to indicate this is Vista
protecting itself from low-level viruses - but
that seems odd that it would do it this way. i
really hate microsoft products and only keep
this OS because i am sure i will have a
bunch of problems with the hardware and
my favorite linux distro.
reply Anonymous89095 (4 days ago)

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23: hey did you ever figure out


hey did you ever figure out the solution to
your problems loading xp pro on to your
system with vista pre-installed already? i am
still having the same problem with the
pci.sys error
reply kblade (3 days ago)

24: Problems in dual booting


I bought a computer with the Windows Vista
Premium Home OS (Portuguese version)
already installed. However I have programs that
run only in Windows XP. I used this tutorial to
install a dual booting, starting with the Gparted
to create a new partition. When I finished
installing Windows XP (English version) I
noticed that I only see a C:, which I believe has
the Windows XP OS. This is not what I read in
the tutorial, as they mentioned that after
rebooting I should see the two partitions, one
with the Vista and the other with the XP. Any
suggestion? The "Fixing the corrupt bootloader"
will be enough to fix this?
Thank you so much for any help.
João
reply Joao C. (9 days ago)

25: I've got Vista and I've been trying to


install XP dual boot...
I've tried to follow the instructions here and I'm
getting caught up in XP install... it doesn't seem
to be recognizing any of my drives and then it
gives me a blue screen of death and the
following error : Setupdd.Sys -
Page_Fault_in_nonpaged_Area ... I looked up
this error and it seems to all be RAM
problems... but since my computer runs
perfectly fine with Vista... why would this be?
Here's some of my back story: I'm trying to
install Windows XP Home... my vista version is
Home Premium... I'm trying to create a dual
boot for XP because some of my
hardware/software isn't compatiable with Vista
(I've tried the Virtual thing, it doesnt work for
what I'm trying to do) ... my computer is a brand
new Gateway 5408.. 320 GB harddrive, intel
core 2 duo processor (1.8 Ghz), 3 GB ram (I
added 2 GB .. Vista is recognizing all of it and
running smoothly) ... the guy that sold me XP
Home said that XP Home would only recognize
2 GB ram... could this be my problem?
reply Weirdbiz (8 days ago)

26: Try taking out the 2GB RAM


Try taking out the 2GB RAM and trying again
to see if that's the problem.
reply Slaphappy (8 days ago)

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27: I am in the same situation


I am in the same situation too...
My computer is a brand new HP, 2Gb ram,
160Gb Hd, Intel Core 2 Duo with Vista Home
Premium preinstalled, I tried to follow the
instructions, I make a 20Gb partition with
Gparted but when insert the Xp Professional
install-cd I receive a blue screen with this
error "Setup did not find any hard disk drives
installed in you computer"
Can someone help me???
reply gioggio82 (8 days ago)

28: Hard Driver Detection


Hi,
Just go to your BIOS setup and disable
the SATA Native support. Disable this
option and windows XP will detect your
hard drive.
CHEERS!
reply Atif Azhar (2 days ago)

29: followup: SATA II harddrive?


I did some more research on my problem
and I found some people saying that XP
doesn't have the driver for SATA II and that I
would need to press F6 at the beginning and
load the driver for my harddrive... if so I'm
not quite sure how to go about doing that...
anyone have any suggestions?
reply Weirdbiz (7 days ago)

30: Another Possible Solution?


I thought of another possible solution to my
problem and I wanted to ask some of the
experts here if it's possible before I go to the
trouble of doing it (because it would be some
trouble) ... What if I add another harddrive to
my system that I know windows XP can
recognize? I have a 250 GB western digital
IDE harddrive sitting around - could I just
add that to my system and then install
windows xp on it? Or can I not have different
harddrive types on the same system?
reply Weirdbiz (7 days ago)

31: Vista XP
That's never worked for me. But you can
put a new hard drive in and make it your
master, then partition it with two partitions.
Then install XP FIRST and Vista second.
You end up with an easy clean dual boot
without all the hassle. The format the
original HD, that you've made a slave, for
storage. Or just leave Vista on it, for
sometime down the line when you want to
only run Vista. You'll alredy have clean
installation. Just make the HD your
master.
reply CJ (6 days ago)

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32: Cannot boot into XP


This has all worked for me up until the point
where I need to select which operating system I
want to boot in. I get the options Vista and XP,
vista loads fine but XP will not load.
See the following link which is a picture of what
I am trying to say!
My Picture
Please help! It must be something easy? I am
nearly there!
Thanks alot guys, jack.
reply Jack (8 days ago)

33: In my picture above, which


In my picture above, which windows disk
does it mean will fix it? The XP disk or the
Vista disk?
Thanks guys.
reply Jack (8 days ago)

34: I get the same screen


I get the same screen when I try to boot into
XP, but my situation is even worse because
Vista won't load either. If I choose Vista the
computer just reboots and then goes into
Windows Error Recovery. I try using the
repair tool but it says it is unable to repair the
system. I assume it's just a problem with the
bootloader but I don't know how to fix it at
this point. Can anyone help?
reply mansart (6 days ago)

35: Solution Found!


I was able to find a solution to the XP \ntldr
error. Fortunately it's very simple. You can
find the solution here:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch0004
Now if I can just get Vista booting again I'll
be a happy camper....suggestions anyone?
reply mansart (6 days ago)

36: can i shrink the vista drive even more?


this tutorial was great i now have my dual boot
up and running but wondered could i do another
shrink on the
original vista held drive it has too much space
for what i need and i would like to partition
again
reply Paul (7 days ago)

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37: Patition problems


I have a new dell notebook with vista
preinstalled, I need to dual-boot xp so i can use
Rockwell software. My disk 0 is as follows:
-:Partition1 [fat] 47mb, d:partition2 (backup)
[NTFS] 10gb, c:Patition3 [NTFS], unpartioned
space (followed instructions from above),
F:partition4 [unknown] 2gb. When i got to the
part of the xp install that asked, "to setup winxp
on the selected item, press ENTER" i chose the
unpartitioned space and hit enter, then i get this
message that reads, "Setup cannot create a
new partions in the space you selected
because the maximum number of partions
already exists on the disk" I hit enter again and
it takes me back to the previous page. I don't
know what to do now.
reply Randyharv (6 days ago)

38: partition problem


Format your hard drive with two partition 3/5
and 2/5. Install XP first, on the slightly
smaller partition. Then install Vista on the
remaining partition. It's very simple. If you
need extra storage space, install a second
hard drive. You'll have a nice clean system,
that should last you for years, without doing
anything else to your O/S.
Doing it this way will add years to your life,
and avoid premature graying. If your system
didn't come with a O/S recovery DVD, you
can obtain one from the manufacturer. I
suggest that, for many reasons, but mostly
the added years and premature graying.
reply CJ (6 days ago)

39: At first I want to thank you


At first I want to thank you for this great tutorial.
I was lucky to find it because it was exactly
what i needed...
Now I have my 2 operating systems installed
with the vista bootloader showing "windows
vista" (1) and "windows XP" (2) Unfortunatly
when choosing "Windows XP" I get an '/ntldr'
error. Vista works fine.
Can somebody help me out? Thanks in
advance
reply laurens (5 days ago)

40: ntldr error


First, thanks a lot for the tutorial, it is exactly
what I needed..
I installed both OS and the vista bootloader
displays "windows vista" and "windows XP" but
when choosing "windows XP" I get a '/ntldr'
error
Vista works fine (luckily). Anybody can help me
out? Thanks a lot in advance!
reply laurens (5 days ago)

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41: ntldr error


First, thanks a lot for the tutorial, it is exactly
what I needed..
I installed both OS and the vista bootloader
displays "windows vista" and "windows XP" but
when choosing "windows XP" I get a '/ntldr'
error
Vista works fine (luckily). Anybody can help me
out? Thanks a lot in advance!
reply laurens (5 days ago)

42: ntldr error


I'm sorry for the triple post (please remove the
first 2)
I have found this tutorial above with the
following steps but I wonder if this will affect my
vista installation, which is the most important of
course...
Or is there an other way to solve the ntldr
error...? Advice appeciated.
Windows XP users
1.Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the
computer.
2.When prompted to press any key to boot from
the CD, press any key.
3.Once in the Windows XP setup menu press
the "R" key to repair Windows.
4.Log into your Windows installation by
pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
You will then be prompted for your
administrator password, enter that password.
5.Copy the below two files to the root directory
of the primary hard disk. In the below example
we are copying these files from the CD-ROM
drive letter "E". This letter may be different on
your computer.
copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
6.Once both of these files have been
successfully copied, remove the CD from the
computer and reboot.
reply laurens (5 days ago)

43: Problem with Vista Ultimate corrupt files


I have tried the steps outlined to dual boot Vista
Ultimate and XP Professional. However, I soon
get errors from Vista that the file system is
corrupt and chkdsk should be run. When I run
chkdsk for Vista, it eventually will not complete
-- saying that there is not enough space to
rewrite the MFT. Vista will still boot, but the file
system appears to become more corrupt until
eventually Vista will not boot at all and running
the Vista repair utility reports that the problem
cannot be repaired.
reply James (5 days ago)

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44: ntldr error


update:
When trying the tutorial above, windows XP
setup loads but then I got a
blue screen . "Windows setup closed..." Vista's
still ok, XP, no clue. Who can help me out...?
Thanks
reply laurens (5 days ago)

45: I had also ntldr error. Then


I had also ntldr error. Then I copied ntldr and
ntdetect.com on c:\ drive. Than I got hall.dll
error, when tryed to access windows XP.
Here is solution:
Put windows Xp CD in. Choose "r" for repair,
choose number where you have windows
XP and type admin password(when not, yust
press enter). Now type
"attrib /scan"
You see now, where is your XP installed(on
my computer was [3] d:\WINDOWS). Then
type
"attrib /rebuild"
and for numbers, where are no XP installed
choose
"no"
On number, where is windows XP choose
"yes"
and that's it. Type
"exit"
That works for me:)))
reply Primus (3 days ago)

46: Thanks a lot Primus... I'll


Thanks a lot Primus...
I'll try that but I had a blue screen when
xp setup was loading from cd... Is there a
solution maybe via Vista
reply laurens (3 days ago)

47: xp and vista


I think the command you used was
bootcfg /scan
and bootcfg /rebuild
reply demarcheur (5 hours ago)

48: Vista
i have one of those acers that has disk to disk
recovery and i cant go into repair for vista is
there any other way i canr epair vista or is there
any where i can get a illegal copy of vista that i
wont fully install just use to repair the boot
sector??? i dont want an illegal copy of vista i
just need it to repair my boot.
reply wittles371 (1 days ago)

49: You just have to download a


You just have to download a copy of vista
(torrents, newsgroups, limewire, whatever)
or loan it from smb else, preferably in your
only language. Write this as an image on a
dvd and boot from that.
reply laurens (20 hours ago)

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50: Dual Boot


I managed to successfully dual-boot Vista and
XP. My Laptop was supplied with Vista
pre-installed but I have 2 hard-drives and
installed XP on the second. I used OSL2000 to
manage booting.
This worked well for over a month and then for
no apparent reason when I booted into Vista
one day it ran the diskchecking utility (chkdsk).
It found some errors on my D drive (XP drive)
and proceeded to repair them. Some four and a
half hours later (after replacing "invalid" security
descriptors) Vista booted. But the D drive was
inaccessible and was reprted as having 0 bytes
free of 0 bytes. Sure enough when I tried to
boot into XP it failed.
Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
Does anyone know why chkdsk should do this?
reply RayBlane (20 hours ago)

51: Hi everyone. I tried to use


Hi everyone. I tried to use this article to
create a dual boot on my computer. The first
part went good. The second partition has
been created but when it came to restart the
system afer installing XP, I got the message
Erro to load operating system.
System in not loading vista either. I tried to
repair the boot sector usig repair start up
with Vista DVD but it reports no problem to
repair.
No longer able to boot my system...still gettin
error to load operating system and nothing
happens.
SOmebody can help? Ill be very happy to get
help. Thousands of thanks.
JC
reply Jacques (12 hours ago)

52: I fixed my /ntldr error !


Excellent guide to dual booting Vista and XP
with Vista installed first.
However I too had the missing /ntldr error. To
fix it firstly I copied ntdetect.com and ntdlr from
the /i386 directory on my XP CD to the root of
the drive where XP is installed.
This still gave the same error message. Then I
checked the settings (Overview) in EasyBCD
and noticed that it didn't specify the Drive.
Therefore the XP bootloader didn't know where
to look for ntldr!
I then clicked on Configure Boot and clicked on
the dropdown for Entry Based Settings and
selected "Microsoft Windows XP Professional".
The Drive had the entry "Deleted partition" I
changed this to my XP drive letter which is G:\
and saved settings.
This allowed XP to boot successfully.
reply StanyD (13 hours ago)

14 of 15 15/03/2007 15:08
How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first) -- the step-b... http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

53: vista says nothing's wrong


I installed xp fine. When I put in the vista dvd to
repair the bootloader for vista, after running
startup repair, vista says it found nothing. Now I
cant get into vista anymore. Is there another
way to get into vista? from the command
prompt maybe?
HELP!!!
reply Sam (7 hours ago)
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