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LEG - Q4 2003 Leggett & Platt Earnings Conference Call


Event Date/Time: Jan. 29. 2004 / 9:00AM ET
Event Duration: 56 min

OVERVIEW
LEG reported EPS in 4Q03 of $0.30, 20% above last year. 4Q03 sales were $1.14b. All five
segments recorded organic sales growth. Scrap steel prices have risen by $100 per ton, nearly
doubling, and may rise another $25 per ton in Feb. Raised dividends to an annual payout of
$0.56 per share. Q&A Focus: China, steel prices, organic sales growth, capacity utilization,
acquisitions and residential segment.

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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS Operator

Felix Wright Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the
Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO Leggett & Platt fourth quarter 2003 earnings conference call.
At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Dave Haffner
Leggett & Platt - President and COO Following today’s presentation, instructions will be given for
the question and answer session. If anyone needs assistance
Karl Glassman at any time during the conference please press the star,
Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential Furnishings followed by the zero. As a reminder, this conference is being
Matt Flanigan recorded today, Thursday, January 29th of 2004.
Leggett & Platt - CFO
Dave DeSonier I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Dave
Leggett & Platt - VP of IR DeSonier. Please go ahead, sir.

Susan McCoy
Leggett & Platt - Director of IR
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
Good morning. And thank you for taking part in our fourth
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS quarter conference call. I am Dave DeSonier, the VP of Investor
Michael Braig Relations. With me today are Felix Wright, Leggett’s chairman
AG Edwards - Analyst and CEO; Dave Haffner, who is our President and COO; Karl
Glassman, our EVP and head of our Residential Furnishings
Linda Bannister
Edward Jones - Analyst Segment; and Matt Flanigan, who is our CFO; and then finally,
Susan McCoy, our director of investor relations.
Sean Harrison
Longbow Research - Analyst
The agenda for the call this morning is as follows. Felix will
John Baugh start with a brief summary of the major statements we made
Wachovia Securities - Analyst in yesterday’s press release, and then he’ll add some
Keith Hughes additional insight into our results. He will also comment on
SunTrust Robinson Humphrey - Analyst other highlights for the quarter and the year . Dave Haffner
will give an update on the fixture and display tactical plan,
Marek Ciszewski
and discuss the market trends we’re seeing in our businesses
Vestor Capital - Analyst
along with factors impacting our earnings and margins. Then
Geoffrey Dancey Felix will discuss our outlook for 2004, and finally the group
Cutler Wentzell Management - Analyst will try to answer any questions you might have.
Fred Speece
Speece Thorson Capital Group - Analyst This conference is being recorded for Leggett & Platt, and is
copyrighted material. This call may not be transcribed,
Susan Maklari
recorded, or broadcast without our express permission. A
UBS - Analyst
replay is available from the IR portion of Leggett’s web site.
Margaret Whelan
UBS - Analyst In addition, I need to remind you that remarks today
Budd Bugatch concerning future expectations, events, objectives, strategies,
Raymond James - Analyst trends or results constitute forward-looking statements.
Actual results or events may differ materially from such
Laura Champine
Morgan Keegan - Analyst forward-looking statements due to a number of risks and
uncertainties, and the company undertakes no obligation to
Joel Havard update or revise these forward-looking statements.
BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
For a summary of these risk factors and additional information
PRESENTATION concerning forward-looking statements please refer to

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yesterday’s press release and the section in our 10-K entitled To recover some of these costs, in the fourth quarter we
forward-looking statements. announced price increases on many of our products, and
recently we have implemented 30-day pricing arrangement
I’ll now turn the call over to Felix Wright, our CEO. for wire, with increases expected beginning in February and
again in March. Other steel related products will be increased
accordingly.
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
We made progress in many areas during 2003. We started up
Thank you, Dave, and thank you for joining us this morning
our Sterling Rod Mill and are very pleased with its
for our conference call. We are very pleased with the results
performance. Sterling is performing as forecast. We completed
for the fourth quarter and the progress we continue to make
the fourth largest acquisition in our history. In July, we
in our operations. As we announced yesterday, earnings for
acquired RHC Spacemaster, a manufacturer of retail store
the quarter were 30 cents per share, exceeding guidance, and
fixtures, with annual revenues expected of $100m to $120m.
20 percent above last year. A same location sales gain of 8.7
For the year, we completed 15 acquisitions that should add
percent drove the earnings improvements, with fourth quarter
about $200m to total revenues. In addition, we divested two
sales posting a record of $1.14b.
operations with annual revenues of about $23m.
For the first time in four years, all five segments recorded
We added five Asian facilities, including our first quarter
organic sales growth and demand strengthened as the
start-up of an upholstered furniture mechanism facility in
quarter progressed. Margins benefited in the quarter from
China. We are implementing a tactical plan to address
the increased volume. Gross profit margins improved to the
performance issues in our fixture and display businesses. Dave
highest level in five quarters, and EBIT margins were at the
Haffner will discuss the past quarter’s activities in his
highest fourth quarter levels since 2000.
comments. We raised our dividends to an annual payout of
56 cents per share. Since 1971 we’ve grown dividends through
Earnings gains from higher sales were partially offset during
32 consecutive annual increases at a 15 percent compound
the quarter by continued impacts from a weaker U.S. dollar.
annual growth rate. We know of no other Fortune 500 firm
For the full year, earnings were $1.05 per share on record sales
that has achieved as long a string of increases that the growth
of $4.4b. Organic sales growth, and recent acquisitions
rate will sustain.
contributed roughly the same to the sales increase.

We issued $350m of long-term debt, locking in very favorable


Earnings were impacted by several factors this year. Benefits
interest rates for the next 10 and 15 years. We furthered
came from higher sales and lower restructuring costs, but
strengthened our balance sheet. At the end of the year, net
these improvements were more than offset by higher energy
debt was 23.4 percent of total capital. We continued
and steel costs, a weaker dollar, inventory write-downs and
generating strong cash flow. Cash from operations was about
lower production levels earlier in the year, and as you know,
$395m. And finally, we began expensing stock options this
that was particularly from U.S. spraying and [wire drawing]
year.
operations.

And with those comments, I am going to turn the call over


Rapid increases in steel costs remain a challenge as we enter
to Dave Haffner.
2004. Since last summer scrap prices have risen by roughly
$100 per ton, nearly doubling in price. Our scrap prices will
reset for the month of February next week, and we expect
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
that they may be up another $25 per ton at that point. This
is driving significant increases in the costs of our raw materials. Thank you, Felix, and good morning everyone. My comments
Our steel vendors have rescinded all previous supply will discuss our recent performance, including some of the
commitments for the first quarter, and have implemented 30 major factors impacting our EBIT and EBIT margins, and trends
day pricing in most cases. We purchase roughly 1.2m tons of in our various businesses. But first I’d like to comment on our
steel annually, accounting for about 15 percent of our cost progress under the fixture display group tactical plan.
of goods sold, so these higher costs significantly impact our
profitability.

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As we told you last quarter, we are stepping up scrutiny of 7.9 percent excluding acquisitions, with most of our business
the underperforming operations within our fixture and display unit posting growth in the quarter. EBIT increased, reflecting
group. Though reduced market demand is part of the higher sales and improved overhead absorption, offset in
problem, we really should be doing better. During this past part by foreign currency impact. For the year, total sales
quarter, I joined Bob Griffin and other of our fixture and increased 2.5 percent, or 1.4 percent excluding acquisitions.
display operating executives in visiting seven of our poorly EBIT decreased for the full year, as higher raw material and
performing businesses within this group. energy cost, currency factors, unabsorbed overhead at our
U.S. Spring facilities earlier in the year, and sales mix more
I am pleased with the priority these ; Leggett partners are than offset the benefit from the sales increase.
assigning to the various remediation tasks, and the leverage
they provide to my personal involvement. Our focus during Bedding demand was much improved in the last half of the
these reviews is on gross margin improvement, administrative year. Our U.S. Spring operations posted sales growth in the
cost reduction and process improvements. Specific initiatives third and fourth quarters, partially offsetting the significant
include review of standard cost by customer and product; a declines experienced through early June. International spring
critical review of all of our customer accounts, including sales increased in each quarter this year, primarily from
raising prices if necessary, or walking away from business if currency impacts, but in part from unit growth. Upholstered
we have to; negotiating cost reductions with vendors; head furniture component sales were strong throughout the year,
count reductions; continuous improvement projects, leading reflecting positive comparisons against 2002’s solid results.
to better production efficiency and labor utilization; and
improving process and procedural controls. Sales also increased in our fashion bed and adjustable bed
operations, and we experienced strong demand for carpet
To date we have identified certain potential consolidation cushion. With improving consumer confidence levels and
opportunities and are analyzing options in each case. As we pent-up demand from the past few years housing strength,
continue with these reviews, opportunities to further we believe these positive trends will continue in 2004.
consolidate facilities and implement best practices will receive
significant attention. We expect these moves to be In our commercial fixturing and component segment, total
implemented over the next year, and anticipate only modest sales increased 27.5 percent in the quarter, benefiting from
restructuring charges in line with those recognized the past our recent acquisitions and a strong 10.6 percent
few years. improvement in same location sales. This improvement
reflects the benefit of some major programs where product
Now to briefly comment on other quarter highlights. During was shipped in the fourth quarter. EBIT decreased slightly as
the fourth quarter, we completed seven acquisitions that the sales improvement was offset primarily by currency
should add about $65m to annual revenues. Four companies impacts and several small factors. Margins in our fixture and
were acquired in our residential segment, adding $40m in display operations continue to reflect operational inefficiency,
revenue. The largest is a producer of adjustable beds. Two but we are aggressively addressing that, as I mentioned
plastic injection molding businesses should add $17m in earlier.
revenue to our commercial segment, and one company that
produces cables for automotive applications should add Sales for the full year increased 7.4 percent with acquisitions
roughly $8m in revenue to our specialized segment. offsetting the slight decrease in same location sales. EBIT
declined significantly for the year, primarily from inventory
At year end, working capital as a percentage of annualized write downs, the weaker dollar, higher steel costs, price
sales was 19 percent, in line with our target. Accounts competition, and operational inefficiencies.
receivable dollars were higher versus year end 2002, the result
of acquisitions and strong December sales. The inventory Although certain major retailers continued with new store
dollars, on the other hand, were basically flat with 2002, openings and refurbishments this past year, most continued
despite higher steel costs, acquisitions, and the impact from at reduced capital spending levels. Consumer confidence,
a weaker U.S. dollar. retail sales, and more importantly, business spending, seem
to be improving. We continue to believe that pent-up demand
Now turning to the individual segments. In residential exists since many retail environments have not been updated
furnishings, fourth quarter sales increased 10.2 percent, or for several years. With the bankruptcies on the part of some

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of our competitors and market share gains we’ve including weak bedding demand early in the year, and also
accomplished, along with the improvements we’re making market declines for ATVs and accessories. Volume increased
in our operations, we are well-positioned to benefit from the late in the year as some of our end markets began improving.
industry’s eventual recovery. We are expecting these improvements to continue into 2004.

Starting in mid-June, we began to see modest improvement In specialized products, fourth quarter sales grew 12.4 percent,
in demand for office furniture components. Although the or 11.4 percent excluding acquisitions. We saw improvements
market remains at very depressed levels, those improvements this quarter in both our automotive and machinery
continued for the last half of the year. For aluminum products, businesses. EBIT also increased on these stronger sales,
the fourth quarter total sales increased 9.8 percent, or 11 despite continuing pressure from foreign currency. Total sales
percent excluding divestitures. EBIT was roughly flat, as the for the year increased 11.6 percent, or 10.7 percent excluding
benefit from higher sales volume was offset by a change in acquisitions. For the full year, EBIT increased slightly as sales
sales mix. For the year, total sales decreased 4.2 percent, but gains were offset by the weaker dollar, sales mix and other
excluding divestitures, sales increased 2.5 percent. EBIT factors. This segment has consistently posted sales growth
increased for the full year, primarily reflecting single location over the past two years, with the past seven quarters, each
sales gains. The non-recurrence of 2002 charges for showing positive comparisons. This year’s improvements
restructuring and inventory and equipment obsolescence reflect currency rate changes, but also continue to benefit
also improved EBIT, but this benefit was offset somewhat by from new programs in our automotive businesses as well as
changes in sales mix, mainly lower barbeque grill production. growth in machinery sales.

New programs for motorcycles, small engines, and large With those comments, I’ll now turn the call back over to Felix.
appliances represented the majority of the sales increase for
the quarter and the full year. These market share gains were
partially offset by a decline in sales and production levels of Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
barbeque grill castings. Although we are gaining efficiency
Thank you, Dave. We would like to talk now about the outlook
as the new programs ramp up, this new volume is not yet
for 2004. Earnings growth in 2004 will be heavily influenced
generating the level of EBIT margins we achieved with existing
by three major factors; the amount of sales growth, the degree
business, although it will.
to which we recover escalating steel costs, and the extent of
improvement in the fixture and display operations.
Our efforts to gain share and enter new markets will continue.
2004 will benefit from the programs we added this past year,
For planning purposes, we are assuming 2004 sales growth,
and should see further growth as other new programs start
excluding acquisitions, between 3 percent and 8 percent for
up and as our overall markets begin to improve. We expect
the full year. We are facing the ongoing challenge of rapid
these gains to be partially offset by somewhat lower grill
steel cost increases. We cannot offset increases of this
volume. In our industrial materials segment, the fourth quarter
magnitude with enhanced efficiencies, so we are reluctantly
total sales increased 2.9 percent, with a divestiture partially
compelled to pass along the price increases to our customers.
offsetting 5.7 percent growth in same location sales. EBIT
improved, reflecting higher sales and the start-up of our
A modest EBIT gain is expected from operational
Sterling rod mill. In the fourth quarter of 2002, the rod mill
improvement in the fixture and display businesses. We will
was incurring significant start-up costs, and in this past fourth
be better able to quantify this benefit later in the year.
quarter that facility operated profitably, and according to our
Incorporating all of these factors, our earnings guidance for
plan.
the full year 2004 is $1.15 to $1.35 per share.

For the year, total sales declined 5.3 percent, or 5.1 percent
For the first quarter, we expect sales to be approximately 10
excluding divestitures. EBIT decreased, reflecting lower sales
percent higher than the first quarter of 2003. The fourth
and production levels earlier this year, along with higher steel
quarter included a one cent EPS benefit from the realization
and energy costs. These negative impacts were partially offset
of foreign tax credit carry forwards that will not recur in the
by favorable results at our Sterling rod mill, and a gain from
first quarter. Based on these assumptions, we expect earnings
the sale of a tubing fabrication business. The full year sales
of 26 cents to 31 cents per share for the first quarter. And with
decline resulted from weakness in many of our end markets,

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those comments, I am going to turn the call back over to Dave mid-fourth quarter, that is a very quickly growing category
DeSonier and we will try to answer any of the questions you and that business is at a 15 percent to 20 percent CAGR. That
may have. business is extremely strong at this point, with the major
introduction on behalf of one of the bedding manufacturers.

Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR


Susan Maklari - UBS - Analyst
Okay, that concludes our prepared remarks. We thank you
for your attention and we will be glad to answer your Okay, and then just one more quick question. As business
questions. In order to allow everyone an opportunity to trends seem to be accelerating and business is improving
participate, we request that you ask your single best question, across your segments, do you expect the pace of acquisitions
then voluntarily yield to the next participant. If you have to increase this year? Are you seeing any change in the
additional questions, please reenter the queue and we will valuations and prices that people are looking for?
answer as many questions as you might have. Marcia, we are
ready to begin the Q&A.
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
Susan, it is Felix. I think that the pace of acquisitions or the
cost of those acquisitions I think we probably haven’t seen
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS that much of a change at this point, as far as either an
Operator escalation in those prices or anything such as that. I would
expect that our acquisition pace should be somewhat in the
Thank you, sir. (Operator instructions) The first question is
range of where you saw it last year, maybe somewhat
from Margaret Whelan. Please state your company name,
enhanced, but somewhere in that range. I don’t think that
followed by your question.
2004 will bring us back to the level of acquisitions that we
had had in some years past, but I think somewhere in that
range of that 4 percent to 6 percent range is probably where
Susan Maklari - UBS - Analyst
you should expect those in 2004.
Good morning, it’s Susan Maklari, actually, for Margaret from
UBS. Can you guys talk a little bit about what you are seeing
in your residential segment? Sales were up nicely there, but Susan Maklari - UBS - Analyst
can you give us just a bit more detail on the trend?
Okay, thank you.

Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential


Operator
Furnishings
Thank you. Our next question comes from Budd Bugatch.
Susan, this is Karl Glassman. The trend certainly strengthened
Please state your company name, followed by your question.
as the fourth quarter progressed. As we had told you earlier,
that we really saw a turn on the bedding side of the business,
say middle of June, and continued to see strength. December
Budd Bugatch - Raymond James - Analyst
was unusually strong, business continues to be strong at this
point, affected maybe slightly in the last few days with the With Raymond James, good morning Felix, David, Karl and
nationwide weather situation. everyone else that’s there.

But on the furniture side itself, the hardware business was


extremely strong all year, as compared and contrasted to a Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
very strong 2002. That business continues to be strong as we
Hi, Budd.
speak. Market share gains in our carpet underlay business
that accelerated through the year, adjustable beds, Dave
announced the adjustable bed acquisition we made

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Budd Bugatch - Raymond James - Analyst to come anywhere close to trying to absorb any of these
increases of this magnitude, so they’ve got to go through the
Seeing as I am going to adhere to the DeSonier rule, can you,
system all the way to the consumer.
based upon after all of the restructuring and what you know
now, could you kind of give us EBIT margin targets by
So it’s something we are dealing with, but those three
segment, by the five segments, what you think maybe the
businesses are the ones that are mostly impacted.
upper bounds are? Now I realize that’s not a 2004 question,
it’s a 2000 and whenever question, but what you think your
ultimate margins can be.
Budd Bugatch - Raymond James - Analyst
Thank you.
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
Budd, this is Dave DeSonier. You probably are aware of most
Operator
of this, but we still think EBIT margin overall can get back to
where we were in that 12 percent to 13 percent range, and Thank you. Our next question comes from Laura Champine.
like you said, that’s probably not a 2004 realization, but in the Please state your company name, followed by your question.
future that’s still our target. Commercial should be above the
corporate average, maybe in the 14 percent to 15 percent
EBIT range, aluminum will be 10 percent at a minimum, maybe Laura Champine - Morgan Keegan - Analyst
a little better. And the remaining segments will be, you know,
This is Laura Champine from Morgan Keegan.
at or maybe slightly below that corporate average.

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO


Budd Bugatch - Raymond James - Analyst
Hi, Laura.
Okay, and then obviously the $64 question as a follow up,
when and what does the steel issue do, and to which division
mostly does it hit?
Laura Champine - Morgan Keegan - Analyst
Hi. Could you – forgive me if you’ve already done this, but
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO can you break out for the full year 2003 the acquisitions that
should add $200m to revenues, and the divestitures that
Budd, that’s a huge question. I’ve been here longer than most,
should take $23m away, can you break that down by
as you know, but I’ve never seen one like this. In the early 70’s
segment?
we had something that almost approached this in price
controls and everything else, but we’ve never seen one with
the rapid escalation that we have got on our hands at this
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
point, and in fact it’s so bad that we do need to see the
government step in and place some kind of surcharge on The answer is yes we can, I’m not sure we can do it live, but
scrap exports to where that we can try to get some kind of a we can give it a shot. We know the biggest one will be in
control on this. The consumer is going to be just devastated commercial, and that’s going to be RHC Spacemaster which
as to what is going to happen with the magnitude of what’s I think we said should add $100m to $120m in revenue, so
going on in steel currently. that’s the bulk of that $200m. The divestitures are a little easier
because there are only two, and the largest was in industrial
Obviously the residential section is a huge user of steel, both and was probably three-quarters of that $23m. The other was
hot roll, cold rolled, et cetera. Our automotive products and in residential and is the remainder of that. I’m trying to think
our fixtures and displays, those are obviously the three big where the other bulk of it would come from. Most of the other
parts of the company that we are having to deal with, and acquisitions are much smaller than that one.
we are trying to deal with it as best we can with our customers
in mind, but with the movement that has happened, there is
nobody that has got enough gross margin or anyplace else

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Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO Laura Champine - Morgan Keegan - Analyst
But the plastic acquisitions get in commercial, so commercial Thank you.
is going to be the –

Operator
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
Thank you. Our next question comes from Joel Havard. Please
Yes, unique molded products, which was in October, was state your company name, followed by your question.
$11m of that $17m and the other SEP Plastics was $5m,
Orthomatic was $25m to $30m.
Joel Havard - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
BB&T Capital Markets. Good morning, everybody.
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
That’s residential. Laura, I’ll get you a better set of numbers,
but that is just the majority of it. Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
Good morning, Joel.

Laura Champine - Morgan Keegan - Analyst


Okay. Well I’m hoping, David, that you will let me, since I didn’t Joel Havard - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
get a complete answer to that one, ask one more.
Felix or Dave or whoever wants to take a stab at this, with the
gross margin improvement we saw in Q4, in the context of
steel costs, can you talk about specifically what the drag
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
would have been from steel and/or what that gross margin
Okay. might have looked like? Because it looks pretty good on its
own, what that gross margin might have looked like excluding
the steel cost issues you are facing right now.
Laura Champine - Morgan Keegan - Analyst
So in the commercial fixturing and components segment,
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
how much of the year-over-year decline in operating income
was affected by currency, and how much was dilution from Joel, that’s a pretty tough question. We started moving some
RHC Space Master? of those steel costs through the system, the first part started
in December in the residential spring side of the business.
We did not get any through the upholstered furniture side
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR of the business in the fourth quarter, so there would have
been some slight drag there. But as far as – Industrial got
The second part of that is a pretty easy answer, because I
through --
don’t think we had much dilution from RHC –

Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential


Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
Furnishings
We didn’t have any dilution from RHC Space Master. I don’t
Joel, this is Karl. What happened in residential is we were
know the answer from a currency perspective.
experiencing accelerating steel costs specific to rod and wire
in the third quarter. Okay? So third quarter was, the gross
margins in third quarter were negatively impacted by those
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
cost inputs. In the fourth quarter we announced and
Currency was roughly $5m in commercial for the year. implemented the first price increase on bedding components,
which we saw wire rod before we saw the steel side, the sheet

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side, effective October 27th. Okay? And then passed the Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
second increase through effective January 2nd. Furnishings
And what’s happening to us, because of the uptick in sales,
So from a residential perspective, it was a catch up and the additional throughput through these assets is helping
certainly weren’t made whole, but caught a good part of it. cover some of that raw material cost.
Where we start to see is now it’s, as Felix said, it’s moving so
darn fast that it’s a challenge to catch up here in this first
quarter. Joel Havard - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
That helps. DeSonier, I apologize, but one little follow up on
Joel Havard - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst there. Felix or Dave, in your experience in dealing with these
kinds of materials cost environments, is tagging along, playing
Okay. I can interpret that then to say that Q4 based on the catch up with price increases – I know you guys have talked
timing was, you had sort of a partial price recapture? But it’s a lot about your relationship with your customers and how
slipping away from you a little bit since. What I’m getting at you play ball when costs are helping people. Are you getting
there of course is Q4 gross margin may be difficult to attain much push back? What other mechanisms do you have at
again in the near term, until you can start to stabilize or your disposal to fight this fight?
capture some of that increase via other price increases from
your part. Is that right?
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO Well, Joel, it’s tough on us, it’s tough on our customers, and
this one is such a magnitude it’s got to go all the way to the
Joel, the only thing that we can tell is that we are attempting consumer, and we’ve got to help our customers and hopefully
to try to do the same thing that our vendors have done to us. our vendors are going to try to help us, but we’re not getting
We have had – I don’t believe we have got a steel contract at much at this point. We’ll try to get it all the way through the
this point that we had prices locked in the first quarter that system to the consumer, because that’s the only place this
haven’t been cancelled, and we are now on a 30-day pricing one can go, it’s just too much of a magnitude. There’s not
schedule and we are trying to do the same thing from our that much gross margin between where we buy the steel and
industrial part of our business as well as through some of the where our customer winds up and sends it to the consumer
components is trying to go into a 30 or 60-day pricing mode to absorb this stuff. It’s got to go through the system some
with them. way, so we are trying to work with them, obviously and they
understand because it’s not just Leggett it’s across a number
Now obviously you are going to get some drag or some lag, of industries, you read about it every day that anybody that
but we are trying to operate under this horrible situation, in is using any kind of a seal, and quite frankly I think that if we
that kind of a manner, but there will be some lag. continue the way that we are that there could be even some
availability issues on certain items that people have to deal
with. Thank goodness we’ve got a Sterling rod mill that we
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO have started up that is making 50 percent of our product that
Also, Joel, I mean just mathematically if you recovered, only I believe we can get scrapped if we’ll pay the price for it, and
recovered your absolute costs, your margins experience slight we are certainly going to do that. So I think that’s one comfort
decline, and I realize people don’t know that, but if we just that our customer can have, that we are going to have
recovered our costs, margins would decline slightly as a material for them, but I believe there’s going to be some other
percentage of sales. people that availability is going to be a problem.

Joel Havard - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst


Okay. Guys, sorry to drag that out so much. Thanks, and good
luck.

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It doesn’t make it necessarily easy, at least there’s an


Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO understanding there that some of the other customers that
are a step or two away from steel purchases don’t, but we do
Thank you.
see a little bit of decontenting continuing to take place in
some of our automotive products. What we are doing there
is trying to do some things internally though to maintain our
Operator
margins while we value-engineer some of those costs down.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Braig. There is still some decontenting going on, not so much in
Please state your company name, followed by your question. residential.

Michael Braig - AG Edwards - Analyst Michael Braig - AG Edwards - Analyst


AG Edwards. Just to expand on that pricing issue the attempts Thank you.
to go to current pricing, or ad hoc pricing. I think you had
mentioned throughout 2003 that mix or decontenting,
especially in the residential sector, was penalizing margins. Operator
Does the kind of cost pass through and price kick back you
Thank you. Our next question comes from Linda Bannister.
are going to get from customers going to continue to retard
Please state your company name, followed by your question.
that mix or that value-added features capability?

Linda Bannister - Edward Jones - Analyst


Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR
Good morning. Edward Jones. Some questions on the fixtures
Mike, this is Dave DeSonier. In the first half of the year, part
and displays business. Felix, can you give us an update on
of the mix issue was trading off, probably betting for other
where you are in terms of hiring any executives for that
products in that segment that may not have as strong a
business? And then my second question is for Dave, given
margin. But I don’t know that we would say that same thing
the time that you’ve spent in the division and the fact that
for the fourth quarter.
organic growth now is starting to return, when do you expect
to see some margin improvement?
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
I would agree. And from a decontenting standpoint – that’s
a new word I’ve got to learn – that we don’t see an Linda, this is Felix. Let me take the first portion. We announced
acceleration of that. The customer specifications now, that earlier that we had hired an EVP of that group from a
all of us in the chain are working so lean that I can’t see manufacturing standpoint. He has been in lock step with Bob
significant spec changing or despecing at this point and as Griffin who is the CEO of that business, and Dave Haffner in
Felix said, our customers and the retailers are in the same all of these changes. We have also made a number of other
position, that this has got to go through the system to the changes in the management down below there to take some
consumer. Certainly not without resistance, but it’s just like I good operating and sales executives and put them into
said, it’s so much, so fast that that is our expectation at this certain positions within the three different parts of those
point. businesses, and then obviously when we buy the Space
Master operation we do get some of their management talent
at that point there.
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
So from a structuring standpoint, we do have the majority of
And this, Mike, sort of goes back to part of Joel’s question. those people in place, however we are going to wind up,
Those customers that are either maker/users or buy steel in there are two other people that will be put in place and they
some other form or format such as structural to build stores, will be from a finance and from a marketing standpoint, and
they understand more directly what we are going through. those are in the process of being put in place as we speak,

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but I will let Dave address the rest of it, he may want to make Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
some other comments about the management. Furnishings
On the lumber side, the situation is multi-faceted. Early in
2003 the issue was [inaudible]. The other issue was trying to
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO pass along a tough situation as it relates to counter veiling
Well the only thing on the management is that we are in final duties and tariffs put on the Canadian exports by the U.S.
interviewing stages for the CFO for that group, so that is government, and the negotiations between the countries
coming to a head pretty quickly. With regard to things that and the uncertainty of the negotiations of the countries
we are doing and the improvement in market share and the through that process that many of the producers in Canada
improvement or apparent improvement in some demand, were not impacting their selling prices by that duty, thinking
when will we expect to see margins improve? The answer is that they were temporary. So there were those pressures.
quickly. The harder question is, when are we going to see Most significant, though, was the change in the relationship
those margins – this gets back to Budd’s question, when are of the Canadian dollar to the U.S. dollar in that we produce
we going to see those margins back where you think they in Canadian dollars and sell in U.S. dollars and that has
will ultimately be? That’s going to take longer, but you know certainly not been a positive for us. Those businesses continue
there is seasonality in this business and margins vary quarter to be under, all three or certainly the latter two of those
to quarter. I am talking about fixtures and displays now. But pressures, we have seen an uptick in demand.
we will see margin improvement right away. The
improvement that we are going to see this quarter and next We have just recently, within the last two weeks actually gone
quarter still will not satisfy us, we will be several quarters to the market with a price increase to our bed frame lumber
before we get it back to where we need to be, but customers that is driven by the combination of this duty
interestingly enough, there are a finite number of ways, albeit situation and the currency, and we are attempting to and
a large number of ways, to improve those margins and we’re have been successful in passing that through in recent weeks.
chiseling away at them one by one. So you can expect
improvements right away.
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
And then with regard to aluminum we’ve seen some upward
Linda Bannister - Edward Jones - Analyst pressure that pales in comparison to the [ferrous] market, but
Thank you. there is some upward pressure on secondary alloys, which is
what we utilize. We do a good job of buying those sals and
ingids and have arrangements with our customers whereby
Operator those metal costs are included in our selling prices as they
vary, so do our selling prices in those cases.
Thank you. Our next question comes from David McGregor.
Please state your company name, followed by your question.
One thing, although we don’t buy a substantial amount of it,
stainless steel has just gone through the roof, that’s primarily
because of the cost of nickel, and thank goodness we don’t
Sean Harrison - Longbow Research - Analyst
buy a heck of a lot of stainless steel, because it is very, very
Good morning, gentlemen. It’s actually Sean Harrison for challenging at this point.
David, Longbow Research. I guess while we’re on the topic
of raw materials, I guess could you talk about maybe if you Other things like corrugated and paint and lubricants and
are seeing rising raw material costs in other areas, and then abrasives and other things like that all have a tend to want
additionally I know lumber had been a topic in prior to be upwardly biased, however we are doing a good job of
conference calls, could you touch on that as well. leveraging our corporate purchases and regional purchases
on those, so those don’t pose a significant problem.

Sean Harrison - Longbow Research - Analyst


All right. Thank you very much.

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Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential


Operator Furnishings

Thank you. Our next question comes from John Baugh. Please It would be diluted down from there.
state your company name, followed by your question.

John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst


John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst And was bedding stronger than furniture within the
Wachovia Securities. Congratulations, nice quarter, by the residential, or was it fairly equivalent?
way. My question is – and if you addressed it earlier, I am
sorry, we were on other calls – but the dollars versus unit,
both the consolidated revenue number you reported as well Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
as specifically in the residential segment. Furnishings
I would say furniture has – our segment of the upholstered
furniture business, from a hardware perspective, has been
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR stronger and probably continues to be stronger than bedding,
John, you are getting at how much inflation is in that number? but the gap is narrowing. Bedding is accelerated, furniture
was strong all year.

John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst


John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
Yes, how much is pricing and how much is in units?
And I know I am violating the DeSonier rule, but I’m asking
these questions quickly. Last one. And I’m ignorant on steel,
Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR so pardon me, but is there any way for any of your customers
to get these products from somewhere around the world,
I would guess there is not much inflated. elsewhere in other words, at a different price or is this just a
noncompetitive issue.

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO


Very little. Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
The channel for –

Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR


I don’t even know if it would be a percent for the fourth Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
quarter. Furnishings
It’s always a competitive issue, first off. The steel situation is
not a U.S. phenomenon, it is a worldwide issue that we are
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential dealing with – I’ll give you an example. In the U.K. where we
Furnishings produce wire for our bedding operations, we were on a
Certainly it would not be a point. Monday given a surcharge of a margin of eight pounds a ton,
the following Monday it was 32 pounds a ton. It is moving at
the same rate in Europe as it is in the States. China, we have
John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst just experienced our seventh price increase in China since
January 1st of 2003. So the Chinese are dealing with a surge
And that would apply to the consolidated results as well as
in cost and then a problem with electrical, electricity
the residential?
availability, so what’s happening is our customers look to
other markets, they are placing orders and those orders aren’t
being filled and are being requoted. So there is not a place

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for them to go, but that’s a geographic issue and a worldwide


steel issue, it is not a market share issue. John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
Interesting. I’m sorry, and you said seven increases in prices
in China since the beginning of 2003?
John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
Karl, they think they can get a better deal somewhere else,
so they are trying it, but in reality they really can’t. Is that what Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
you are saying? Furnishings
Yes.

Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential


Furnishings
John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
Yes.
Wow. Thank you.

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO


Operator
That’s basically it, John.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Keith Hughes.
Please state your company name, followed by your question.
Mr. Hughes, your line is open at this time.
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
Yes, they assume – first they assume it’s a Leggett Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey - Analyst
phenomenon and then they assume it’s a U.S. phenomenon
SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. In the residential business, is
and then they find out that it’s a worldwide issue.
it fair to say we are going to see several more price increases
in the first half of this year on your products to help offset
this?
John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
So at the end of the day you don’t expect large market share
movement from one country to another because of this issue? Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
Unfortunately that’s fair to say.
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
Not at all. Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey - Analyst
Okay, and in terms of the problems, having some of these
stick, are customers just looking to move stuff in house, or –
John Baugh - Wachovia Securities - Analyst
I’m not really seeing where they have a lot of options at this
Thank you very much. point.

Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings Furnishings
As a matter of fact, I expect that there will be lesser pressures Their steel costs are certainly accelerating at the same rate
than there have been in the last few quarters because of the as ours, if they are maker/users. As a matter of fact, because
Chinese situation. they don’t enjoy the purchase leverage that we do, that they

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are probably accelerating at a greater rate. Keith, it’s a terrible


situation, none of us have a choice. Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
As it regards China, our spring operations are in place solely
Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey - Analyst for domestic consumption. Our upholstered mechanism
Okay. Thank you. facility is all for Chinese consumption. That product, in many
cases, may be incorporated into a product in China on our
customer’s behalf and shipped back to this country, but we
Operator sell it primarily it stays in China. There are sales in China to
Chinese producers.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Marek Ciszewski.
Please state your company name, followed by your question.
On the automotive side, a good part of that joint venture,
productive capacity would come back to the States. We are
sourcing from a machinery perspective, we are building
Marek Ciszewski - Vestor Capital - Analyst
machines that are built in China, sold in China, but that
Good morning everybody, this is Marek Ciszewski with Vestor business also is in the procurement business and also the
Capital. Just a quick two questions. First I just wanted to see milling business of parts that in parts form are sold back to
if in the past you have stated that every $10m in revenues the United States.
equals about an EPS with the current capacity you are able
to support about $500m of additional revenues, so I just
wanted to find out if that still is the case. And then, just a Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
secondly we are going real quick, maybe is the Asian
And then I think the last part of your question was, is how do
production that you have, is it primarily for local production
we feel as to where we are in what we are doing in Asia versus
or is it for export? And then in those terms, on a relative basis,
what we should be doing in Asia or what competition may
do you feel you are ahead, behind, or pretty much on par
be doing in Asia. We believe we have ourselves positioned
with competition in moving production to China?
at this point where we should be. There are some things that
if we would have done earlier we would have probably made
some mistakes, but we do think that we are ahead of the
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
curve now to where that as far as either sourcing products
Marek, this is Dave Haffner. Let me take a stab at the first part for ourselves, sourcing products for our customers, and et
of that, which is primarily the gearing or the leverage cetera that we are where we feel very comfortable.
question. It varies, depending upon the individual segment
or division within the segment, and that of course gets to We have approximately 2,000 people employed in China as
their existing capacity utilization by division, by segment. But we speak today, and continuing to look at other factories, et
if you blend it all together, if you blend it all together, we still cetera. But we believe we are positioned just right.
have a feeling that for every $10m or $11m we can get that
approximate penny per share. But it’s important to know that
if we have a bias or a skew of volume in a particular area that’s Operator
already significantly utilizing their assets, that that gearing is
Thank you. Our next question comes from Geoffrey Dancey.
less than it is otherwise. But on average, yes.

And the second part of that first question was, do you still
Geoffrey Dancey - Cutler Wentzell Management - Analyst
have about a half a billion dollars in capacity, unused capacity,
the answer is yes. That assumes the same product mix that Cutler Wentzell Management. I was wondering, you gave in
we have now, so if for some reason that mix were to shift your press release that 2004 organic sales growth between
slightly, it could be that we would have more or less than that 3 percent and 8 percent for the full year, I was wondering if
$500m. you could break that down by segment?

So that’s the first part. Karl needs to take the Asian part.

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Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR Operator


We can give you a rough feel. I’d say for the most part it’s Thank you. (Operator instructions) The next question is from
going to be spread pretty evenly across the segments, Margaret Whelan. Please go ahead with your follow up
probably stronger in commercial than the others, maybe up question.
to twice the percentage growth, so if growth was 5 percent
across the board, you might get up to 10 percent in
commercial, but the rest of them would be pretty even with Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
that corporate average.
Good morning, guys.

Geoffrey Dancey - Cutler Wentzell Management - Analyst


Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Hey, how are you?

Operator
Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
Thank you. Our next question comes from Fred Speece. Please
I’m terrific, and congratulations, I am delighted to see the
state your company name, followed by your question.
quarter came in so well. I have two short questions. The first
one is, if you mentioned capacity utilization, I didn’t catch it?

Fred Speece - Speece Thorson Capital Group - Analyst


Speece Thorson Capital Group. I’ll respect Dave’s rule and ask Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
one question. The point of sale, is it more dependent upon
Dave will give it to you.
retail remodeling or square foot expansion, and do you see
any backlog building or order building there?
Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO All right. I am so glad you asked that question. At the end of
the fourth quarter, our capacity utilization on average for
Where that that used to be a lot more square footage
residential furnishings was at 76.2 percent. And it ranges, of
expansion, it has certainly shifted much greater to renovations
course, as you know we’ve got lots of various divisions, and
and reworks, et cetera. Whereas I think that maybe used to
it ranges from a low of 59. 3 percent up to 95 percent.
be 30 percent or 35 percent renovations, and maybe 65
percent or so more square footage, that certainly has reversed,
and we think obviously there is a lot of retail space out there
Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
now, maybe there is a lot of retail space that is unused or
unutilized, but we think that the refurbishing the renovation Okay.
is certainly going to be the biggest driver, it won’t be all of it
because you are still going to have the Wal-Mart’s and the
Home Depot’s and a lot of other people that are continuing Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO
to put more square footage in play, and we’re certainly a And then in fixtures, displays and plastics, we are at about –
player in that part of the business too. But the big driver in they range from 51.4 percent to 67 percent. Aluminum we
our business is certainly going to be the renovations. are at 70.7 percent, sterling steel we are at 100 percent.

Fred Speece - Speece Thorson Capital Group - Analyst Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
Thank you. Wow.

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Dave Haffner - Leggett & Platt - President and COO Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
Although I really think we could find one more ton Okay, but nothing, it is included in your guidance?
somewhere. Wire we are at 89.7 percent, tubing and
automotive we are between 80 percent and 85 percent and
machinery and technology we are at 72 percent of our Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO
capacity.
Yes.

Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst


Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Okay. Now the reason I am asking is because I am wondering, Furnishings
if you look for example in residential furnishings, you put up Yes.
such a solid number in terms of sales, yet your margin is 10.3
percent, and if I look back historically, you’ve had a higher
margin there and I think what might have been even lower Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
sales. So I am just wondering, just on the progression during
the quarter, did you take any downtime or anything? Now the second question I have, when we were in Asia in
November we met with many of the suppliers, and your
customers and the upholstery guys over there, and the only
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential complaint they had was they couldn’t get enough product
Furnishings from you, because they love the quality and the service, but
they felt that you didn’t have enough operations set up over
Margaret, this is Karl, that’s a byproduct of a number of things;
there. Can you just comment on that? The speed at which
currency, mix, we certainly don’t have any downtime, those
you are moving?
from a productive capacity those businesses in total are
certainly more heavily utilized in the fourth quarter than they
were in the third, that variance was probably three to four
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
points. So it truly, what you are seeing is mix and then you Furnishings
are seeing a little bit of this lag in passing through the cost
increases. We are in the process of starting construction on another
80,000 square foot addition to the facility in Jiaxing that you
toured. So we are adding capacity as quickly as we can.
Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
Okay. And then – okay, so that will catch up with you in terms Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst
of cost increases, I guess, in the first quarter you did say?
Okay, and then would you be phasing out more capacity here
in the U.S. as you do that?
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
Furnishings
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential
I would hope, but it’s moving so fast, Margaret, no, I don’t Furnishings
think it will catch up in the first quarter.
The tide has risen to a point, Margaret, that it has not been a
situation of lesser demand in the U.S. If there is a switch that
Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO we have a facility in Australia that a good part of that business
has moved to China, so we are downsizing the Australian
The raw materials are moving so fast, Margaret, that’s going mechanism facility, but not the U.S. facilities at all. They are
to give a little pressure on the first quarter. running full out as we speak.

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Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst


Operator
Are the margins in China better than Australia?
Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the
Leggett and Platt fourth quarter 2003 earnings conference
Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential call. If you would like to listen to a replay of today’s conference
Furnishings call, please dial 303-590-3000 with pass code 565766. You
Yes. may now disconnect, and thank you for using ACT
Teleconferencing.

Margaret Whelan - UBS - Analyst


And so net net, as you are moving your factories over there,
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Thank you.

Karl Glassman - Leggett & Platt - EVP and Head of Residential


Furnishings
Thank you.

Operator
Thank you. Mr. DeSonier, there are no further questions at
this time. Please continue.

Dave DeSonier - Leggett & Platt - VP of IR


Okay, we appreciate your interest and hope to talk to you
again in a quarter. Thank you very much.

Felix Wright - Leggett & Platt - Chairman and CEO


Thank you.

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