Beruflich Dokumente
Kultur Dokumente
EDUC 300-M
November 2017
The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down focuses on Lia was a young girl whose life
changed dramatically at an early age when she began suffering from epilepsy. Her condition
stirred up a cultural debate between the western medical doctors and Lias family, of Hmong
culture, when they failed to adequately communicate clearly and effectively to treat her
condition. While modern medicine had one theory on how to treat her epilepsy the family had
another, believing that her condition was really a spiritual happening. Due to the lack of clear
communication and effort to care for one anothers cultures and work towards a mutual
understanding to help Lia, her life was full of traumatic events until her early death. The Spirit
Catches You and You Fall Down, demonstrates the clashing of cultures that can be prevented
The life of Lia has never been easy, she was a young child with epilepsy whose condition
started when she was three months old. At this point in time her older sister, Yer, had shut the
door in Lias face and therefore triggering her first seizure. While their parents believed that the
door had caused her soul to flee, her doctors had an entirely a different viewpoint. When Lia first
arrived at the hospital she received treatment, however the treatment that she had received that
had little to no effect due to two reasons. The first reason being that her family did not trust
modern medicine, or anything that was not closely related to their culture. Secondly, doctors
were not able to truly discover what her condition was until several months after she had been
brought to the hospital. One of the main reasons that she suffered was because there was little to
no language translation available between the doctor and Lia's parents. As previously discussed,
her parents were very much against anything that was not part of their Hmong culture. With this
resistance her parents either did not fully understand the doctor's orders and/or refused to honor
them. This would end with Leah receiving inadequate treatment which would lead to devastating
effects. Some of these effects entail more severe seizures as well signs of mental retardation
becoming apparent.
While the system tried to help through the aid of her social worker, Jeanine Hilt, the aid
was too little too late. She taught Foua how to administer the medicine that Lia needed for her
condition. However, after four short months Lia endured a very severe seizure and had to stay in
the hospital for additional fourteen days. Two months after this instance she had another massive
seizure which left her brain dead. Because being brain-dead many doctors assumed that she
would not survive, and she could return home. This unfortunately was a clear sign that doctors
Modern medicine had failed Lia, while not all the blame can be placed on modern
medicine quite a bit can. Modern medicine was supposed to be there to help Lia no matter what.
However, this was not the case, the case was that Lias doctors were unable to convince the
Hmong culture that they were to be trusted and not feared. Furthermore, modern medicine did
not assimilate to help to merge the two ways of healing together. In the Hmong culture they were
far more spiritual while modern medicine was far more analytical, if they came together and
decided on a middle ground where both sides were taking a step closer to the other, instead of
them constantly bashing heads, then they would have increased Lias chances of survival and
therefore would have been far better off. What the doctor should have done from the beginning
was to get a translator, preferably one among the Hmong culture, who could explain the different
processes to the parents adequately and therefore help to relieve any sense of stress or uneasiness
that they had about modern medicine. If they would have gotten this translator, then maybe they
could have influenced the parents to follow the doctor's recommendations rather than to Simply
ignore them and to default back to their traditions. However, because the two cultures were
unable to assimilate, they inevitably were the leading causes of Lias death.
The Hmong Culture saw Lia Lees illness as a spiritual happening. They believed that her
severe epilepsy was caused by her spirit fleeing her body, making her collapse into epileptic fits.
The western doctors tending to Lia Lee, however, diagnosed her with epilepsy; they wanted to
treat her in the same fashion they would treat a western patient. Dan had no way of knowing
that Foua and Nao Kao had already diagnosed their daughter's problem as the illness where the
spirit catches you and you fall down. Foua and Nao Kao had no way of knowing that Dan had
diagnosed it as epilepsy, the most common of all neurological disorders (Fadiman 28). The Lee
family relied on their cultural and spiritual beliefscooperating became difficult for the family
because the doctors refused to compromise to the degree that the family wanted. While the
doctors perpetuated the conflict through miscommunication and misrepresentation, the Lee
familys refusal to use the medicine that had been prescribed to the extent the doctors requested
and encouraged demonstrates the familys unwillingness to accept or trust the western doctors
insight. This rejection shows that the Hmong family refused to assimilate to the western culture
that may have benefited their daughter. This emphasizes the necessity of empathy and
stating, The doctors can fix some sicknesses that involve the body and blood, but for us Hmong,
some people get sick because of their soul, so they need spiritual things. With Lia it was good to
do a little medicine and a little neeb, but not too much medicine because the medicine cuts the
neeb's effect. If we did a little of each she didn't get sick as much, but the doctors wouldn't let us
give just a little medicine because they didn't understand about the soul (101). In accepting
some of the recommended medicine, Foua believed that he was compromising an appropriate
amount. However, in claiming that a little medicine and a little neeb would help his daughters
health problems, Foua was neglecting the fact that the doctors recommended amount is the
necessary treatment that has been studied, tested and proven to be the best possible treatment for
an ill patient. The Lee family wanted to compromise, but under their own premises. In wanting
to reduce the medicine their daughter took for the effects of neeb to work, they were
undermining the factual evidence that the doctors were working under: In the Lee familys
unwillingness to compromise to the extent the doctors recommended, the Lee family was
Fadiman discusses this further, describing an interaction she had with an epidemiologist.
Fadiman was expressing her frustration toward the doctors and their hesitance in accepting the
compromise proposed by the Lee family. The epidemiologist responded to Fadimans critiques
saying, "Western medicine saves lives" (276). Fadiman reflects on the epidemiologists
statement, suggesting that in her admiration of the Hmong culture and her agreeance with
Dwight Conquergoods philosophy that suggests healthcare should act as a barter-system that
compromises to the degree in which the family is comfortable, which she has ignored the due to
with any true evidence. While it is highly important to maintain spirituality and cultural practice,
refusal to layer neeb on top of the prescribed medicine demonstrates that the Lee family was
hesitant in their compromises. Because the Western doctors and the Lee family did not share
cultures or an understanding of each others culture, they were unable to find a compromise that
satisfied both parties. This created conflict and a truly traumatic experience for Lia and her
parents. The Lee family did not assimilate to Western medicine, and therefore, suffered
During Lias life, she was bounced back and forth between modern medicine and the
medicine of the Hmong cultural. Since this happened for the duration of her life, she never fully
got the health care that she deserved to help her with her disease. The cultural barrier that was
put into place hindered Lia because the doctors did not want to learn about the Hmong culture,
and what the family believed which therefore affected her care throughout her life. The doctors
wanted the Lee family to give their daughter only modern medicine and to not use the Hmong
cultures medicine. Eventually, the family performed a healing ceremony on Lia. Lia became
brain dead, but her family still took care of her until she her death. In the end, the family did not
like or want to use the modern medicine pushed in their direction. The family chose to use their
cultures way to treat her disease, and they were happy with their decision.
Throughout the book, the American Western culture did not get along with the Hmong
culture. The Lee family came over to America to have a better life with their children and for
themselves, which was unsuccessful regarding Lias health care. Anne Fadiman tells the story of
the Lee family trying to get their daughter who has a disease healthy. By telling this story,
Fadiman is showing the world how difficult it is to communicate with people from other
cultures. This difficulty in communication can add more problems to an already scary situation.
In the Lee family, the sad reality was that their daughter is was suffering from life threatening
seizures, and no one knew how to treat her because the doctors and family could not
communicate properly. Looking back on this whole story, the doctors could have learned how to
communicate, at least slightly, with the Hmong culture, and they could have tried to understand
how important it was to the Lee family to keep in touch with their cultural traditions to treat
disease. If they would have taken this small effort, then it could have been very possible that Lia
could have been given a beneficial mix of modern medicine along with the Hmong ceremonies
While Lia and her family suffered a sad fate in the loss of her life, a lot was to be learned.
When one culture is not appreciated, or respected miscommunication and lack of a basis of trust
there is no common ground to establish an end goal. It caused Lia to lose her battle with epilepsy
as she became brain dead and was left with no more options but to go home and wait out the rest
of her life. The doctors failed to care for the family and Lias need by contributing a translator or
any effort to understand their cultural beliefs through asking for through information. The
Hmong culture refused to give in and part-take in modern medicine that may have saved Lia
because their beliefs and traditions were not respected or valued. While both parties were busy
focusing on their own individual goals the common goal, the goal to help and save Lia, was
over-looked resulting in tragedy for the family. Had the doctors and families met with a
translator, worked to understand and trust one another the outcome may have been different for
Lia. The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down, demonstrated clearly the idea that when
cultures clash in ways that nobody cares to learn, change and adapt from unnecessary events that
could happen when they are not addressed and prevented through communication and empathy.
Working Together: Quotes from the Authors:
When our group first meet we decided that your efforts would be the most efficient if we
were to split up the workload and each focus on a particular part of the book. After we gained all
the information that we could we meet again to merge our ideas. In the end our group worked
Our group worked together by first discussing the novel and what we thought the author
was trying to convey. This allowed us to express our individual opinions, as well as create a
collaborative thesis that encompassed all our thoughts. We then each took a section of the paper
and developed our specific ideas. Finally, we put our final projects together and edited them into
I believe that our group worked very well together. We met a handful of times to discuss
what we wanted our paper to look like. We were able to split the paper evenly amongst ourselves
so that the workload was fair between everyone. It was nice to work we everyone, especially
since we all were able to agree what we wanted our end goal to be! - Maggie
I was an add-in to the group later during the formation of the paper. Therefore, I was not
present in the initial meeting over the essay. They seem to have done a successful job in breaking
apart the book into sections that flowed well together, matching the same concepts. My
contribution was assisting and editing the final product as well as forming the introduction and