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submitted 22 hours ago by rorschach34

This is an interesting article I came across on LinkedIn

which talks about how political parties are funded and also this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2017
why Modi is so popular. I cannot post the link as it would be 119 points (90% upvoted)
deleted. However, it would be interesting if you guys can
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add to this discussion.

2014 the BJP comes to power. That of course wasnt

surprising to many. But the manner of the victory and the username password

momentum they have had since then is staggering.

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2002, and we havent seen anything like it, at scale at any
rate. And it had to have happened from Gujarat. And had to
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But what made him the most powerful person in India
today? How did he get here? What made him overcome
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embedded stalwarts in the party? Was it just his personality
and the popularity of his speeches? Does he command
loyalty within the party? Why? Electoral mandate? What is
India
his agenda? What does he know that the rest of party
doesnt? subscribe 75,367 readers

When we think about politics, we see it as synonymous with 863 users here now
corruption. The popular perception is that because greedy
men and women get into politics with an unquenchable
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thirst for power and money. On second thought, however, it
seems a little simplistic. And Ive been wondering how this
works. How does something so self serving lend itself to PushBullet Notifications
any sort of system or party? Does the richest politician
become the most powerful? How do they stay united behind
something as abstract as an ideology? /r/India Telegram Group
And Ive reached a very simple conclusion its economics.
More specifically, the economics of corruption. Corruption /r/India Discord Server
funds politics. Read that again. Not politicians. Politics. More
specifically, it funds political parties and it funds elections
and it funds ideology. So, to understand a partys ideology
and its political view point and its corruption model, its
crucial to look at the partys organization and funding model
than its personalities.
Its the Economics, Stupid. /R/INDIA IS PRO-CSS. TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS
MEANS, VISIT /R/PROCSS.
Basic rule of economics. Inflows = Outflows.
Outflows. Lets look at a simplified model of the economics FILTERS & HOT TOPICS:
of a national party. India has about 700 districts and 6 lakh
villages. For a political party to have a national footprint, it ENABLE
probably needs about 100,000 local offices, plus a state ALL NON-POLITICAL
level and national level organization offices and people,
like any other corporation. POLITICS [R]EDDIQUETTE

Rent + people + consumables per office: 50,000 INR per AMA SCHEDULED

month. Thats a fixed bill of INR 300 500 crore annually.

Add to this cost of LS elections 400 seats @ 25 cr INR SCIENCE & TECH. SELF POSTS
each = 10,000 Cr every five years
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(http://www.ndtv.com/elections-news/rs-30-000-crore-to-
be-spent-on-lok-sabha-polls-study-554110) and another HIDE POLITICS AND POLICY
2,000 crores every five years for the state election, HIDE DEMONETIZATION
assembly polls and so on. So about 2,000 crores annually
give or take. The number in itself isnt important. The HIDE ADBLOCKER UNFRIENDLY

dimension of it is.
Now, Inflows: WELCOME TO /R/INDIA

Donations to the Party: from well wishers, ideological 1. What is Reddit?

supporters and common citizens Administrative corruption
2. Reddit India Wiki
(services to common people and small businessespolice,
transport, jobs, posts, records, licenses, permits, 3. Follow us on Twitter - @RedditIndia
certificates etc) Unorganized Business Corruption ( Bribes
4. All India related sub-reddits
for Liquor vends, LPG gas distribution etc) Local Extortion
(Protection money from small shops, petty crimes, REQUESTS
prostitution rings etc) State level Organized business
corruption (Real estate, Mines, Natural resources, Liquor, 1. Please see this for further details.
Transport) State level Lobbying & Extortion Corruption, as
2. Do read the Reddiquette and refrain from
the man on the street experiences it, is largely what we can
personal/vindictive attacks while
call Administrative and Unorganized Business Corruption. commenting.
Typically, the way it works it that every government official
3. Please provide translations if comment in
needs to collect "revenue" from the common man for
languages other than English.
services rendered and pass on a fixed amount every month
to his superior. Anything over and above that fixed amount 4. Please use spoiler tags where needed.
[](#s "Modi") becomes PM.
can be kept for personal benefit.
For example, a State Administrative service officer
COMMUNITY
(government salary is at about 75k per month) needs to
pay a fixed amount of 12 Lakh per month to his superior, 1. Travel Information
who in turn aggregates it and passes it on to his superior,
2. State of the Week Threads
who in turn passes it on.
3. IRC
(This simple system is fascinating. So many models can and
are tried at an individual level by different government 4. Special mentions
officers to meet different levels of personal ethics and
5. Available rage faces
morality The Robinhood model, The Capitalist model,
Honest Rebel model. There is also the aspect of a
department culture how does the head of the MODERATORS message the moderators
department set the tone how does he negotiate his fixed qgyh2
amount with his superior does he say Ill get my neoronin
department to perform giving you street cred but in return Envia
Ill only extract so much from the department? What does parlor_tricks
he do after that? Pass the message on and keeps the cash? AutoModerator
How are non- economic favours handled? Does the kash_if
AwkwardDev
superior say do this favour for my friend or family I will
sree_1983
take a lesser amount from you this month? or does he say
Fluttershy_qtest
I dont care, favours or not you need to deliver this or
saptarsi Doesn't look like anything to me
you are transferred to Mizoram. How does he negotiate the
...and 18 more
selection of his subordinate officers? Does he maximize
inflows or trades off inflow vs performance?)
< > discussions in r/india X
The rest can be clubbed into Business Corruption. The
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money you get from large corporations for resources,
GSLV Mk 3 launch as seen from my
permissions, infrastructure decisions and so on. office in Chennai.
The Money Trail. So this whole money trail ends at the
Minister in charge of the department and then on with the
CM. What then happens with this gentleman? He needs to
deposit it into the Party treasury. How much does he need
to pay? Again, a simple view of this negotiation I imagine to
be The party funded 15 crores in the last election and the
CM spent say 10 cr personally and hence they agree on say
100 crores a year to the party. You can imagine the
dynamics at play here. A bankable candidate with his own
street level organisation will negotiate a lower party
contribution but get lower funding from the party at election
time. The party can choose a candidate who offers a higher
monthly contribution to the party but needs more funds and
street level support from the party at election time.
Clean Corruption? The second more fascinating strategic
choice for the CM and the party is Administrative &
Unorganized Business Corruption as a percentage % of total
inflows.
Or in simple words how much do I take from the
common man every month?
This decision determines his popular perception and his
electability. With a clean CM, the common man
experiences better government services, benefits, roads
and utilities. Except that the CM is not really clean he is
just choosing to get a higher portion of his funds from
Business Corruption. Its not an easy choice in its execution.
The established system of administrative corruption is far
easier to milk and manage than negotiating deal specifics
with multiple business entities.
The sheer costs of running a political party show us that
running a clean, corruption-free government is an
impossibility unless they have guaranteed donations every
month. Hmm. (When was the last time any party except
AAP canvassed you for donations?)
How do parties differ then? How does the government get
better under one party and get worse under another? Why
does one party build more roads and the other build less? If
its just economics, shouldnt it all be the same?
The answer lies in your corruption strategy. And here is
where Mr. Narendra Modi comes in. But to understand this,
lets see how the Congress Party works.
The Congress invented the Corruption Model in India.The
Congress party came into power mainly under the
leadership of Gandhi and Nehru with a socialist agenda and
with the momentum of having had a primary role in the
creation of Independent India. They formed the government
and ran the country until 1977 and then again
intermittently till 2014 making them the ruling party for
about 50 of the 70 years as Independent India. If we
assume corruption began with the formation of the
government and evolved as a way of funding the expenses
of running the party and managing election expenses, we
can imagine that people with wealth would come into
positions of power in the party by donating to the party. We
can then see how the model kept evolving morally where
the party leadership kept managing and controlling these
funds for the good of the party and then ended up
controlling power distribution in the party.
The Congress interestingly never had to build a street level
election organization and rode on their brand and freedom
fighter credentials to win elections. They had the least costs
but by virtue of being a monopoly, had the highest
fundability leading to a bigger and bigger party war chest.
This model steadily built on itself until the late eighties,
where first the Janata party and then the BJP started biting
at this monopoly and winning elections with low funds but
higher street level volunteer-led organisations. As economic
critical mass grew, regional parties started using local
issues and identity to win elections and come into power.
No party however can even today match the economic
might that fifty-year head start gave the Congress. It also
explains very easily why even politically inept newbies
within the Gandhi family still manage to hold on to that
power. The combination of assets, cash and corporate
relationships that were held closely by the party leadership
and managed by loyal accountants for the party in vague
cross-holdings is near impossible to usurp.
Congress election strategy is basically Votes for Cash. The
cash-rich Congress has since then stayed with the strategy
of trading political seats for cash. I imagine Sonia Gandhi
being practical with her choice of candidates- I dont
understand political context. Who comes in with highest
probability of winning elections and with least ask of my
party funds?
Effectively, an inorganic acquisition strategy that simple
equation has defined Congress electoral strategy for the last
couple of decades. It explains why we see so many power
centres in the Congress Party and their love of regional
alliances.
BJP strategy The BJP on the other hand initially rode on the
Ram Janmabhoomi movement to capture electoral mandate
and came to power. They had a few short years at the top
but being a relative startup were far more unified in their
ideology and their leadership under AB Vajpayee and LK
Advani. After coming to power, they inherited some of the
corruption systems that the Congress has built and
probably started to fund themselves and their partner
organisations. I think Pramod Mahajan was the driving force
for collating the thinking on how to harness funds and had
started to really transition the party into a commercial
entity at a national level.
Gujarat Something different happened in Gujarat. Narendra
Modi came to power as a relative outsider and by sheer luck
or genius found himself with the electoral mandate. I dont
know whether this was due to circumstance or innovation,
but I imagine he looked at the local funding model in the
context of the unrest for the man on the street, and
decided to focus exclusively on Corporate or Business
Corruption to fund his party and local organisation. Its
entirely possible that this is by sheer luck as his some of
the nations largest corporates came from Gujarat and due
to its ports and trading activity had a heavy bias in being
invested there. Leveraging that into a business relationship
seems like the only logical way to relieve the pressure on
Administrative and Unorganized corruption. Its the only
way that an newbie outsider CM could harness his
governments administrative resources and ask them to
provide a smooth ride for the man on the street and restore
his confidence. No funds required from the government to
the party.
This simple choice allowed the CM to focus on selecting the
best candidates for ministerial and senior officer roles. We
can take this even further and imagine that the CM says to
his ministers and officials, you perform and Ill take care of
you. You dont need any revenues from your departments.
He does this for a year and then another and realizes he is
getting political credit and earning him an electoral
mandate. His next election then lets him go back to his
corporate sponsors and say, okay look, I am cleaning up the
administration and creating infrastructure for you. For this,
I am going to need a 1,000 crores from you every year - a
sort of a retainer model. For the corporates, this becomes
an easy deal the CM has just offered a bulk discount on
the thousands of crores I bleed every year at the hands of
his government at his ports and his license and excise
offices.
This centralized corruption strategy starts to do a couple of
things you start to control the funding, and hence the
party and therefore the election strategy, and second, you
really start to control the government for performance. You
effectively subsidize the common man through the goods
and services he consumes from the private sector and the
resulting profits. You start to select ministers and leaders
for performance rather than party revenues. You are less
reliant on local leaders for elections, and in effect can run a
performance government, creating massive economic
opportunity for corporations, which then goes back to
reinforce his value propostion to both his stakeholders- the
voter on the street and the corporate promoter.
What happens next? The Scale up and the Lock-in.
After ten years of managing this at state level, you then
offer the central party leadership a massive fund infusion
for the party elections in return for becoming the PM
candidate and saying that I will manage the party funds as
well, effectively controlling the entire election and candidate
strategy. You have just done what the Congress has done
for three decades- control the party by controlling the
inflows. You win the election by outspending your fiscally
conservative competition and with a better strategy. The
unified face of the party allows you to control the message
and win you a national election.
What happens next? Now you have got to pay your
sponsors back. You then deploy the same centralised
corruption strategy at a national level. You deploy
international strategy as a new growth lever for your
corporate sponsors. You push the government into high
performance mode on power, roads, railways generating
economic growth for your sponsors and economic and
political momentum.
The Counterstrike. Even with all this, you still worry about
the next election. For one simple reason. Your main rival
still has 5X the resources you have. Theoretically, the
Congress could break the bank in the next election and
outspend the BJP to dilute the partys electoral mandate,
especially in the regional constituencies.
You do two things One, you neutralize the Congress with
the only way you can neutralize their resources Black
money and Demonetization. You go after their assets
stashed abroad over the years. You tighten the screws on
taxation and transactions. Even if you dont reduce their
resources, you at least succeed in reducing their liquidity
and hence their deployability. Congress vote share is
declining in every successive poll since 2014 bar a couple of
exceptions. You take a hit too but if you look at the damage
you cause your biggest rival, this is a a shin graze.
Two, you then go ahead and remove the cap on anonymous
political donations, effectively legalizing the entire
transaction between your corporate sponsors and your
party treasury.
With these two simple steps, you have just changed the
 game for political domination in India. And that is what I
believe is happening in India today.
What of ideology? What of the manifesto? Well, honestly if
you control the economics, you control the medium that can
control the message. If you run the government and the
corporations, you effectively control nearly everything. You
can manage messages locally to suit or modify the
narrative.

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[] hyuku 27 points 22 hours ago

This is the real deal. Brilliant article.

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[] SweetSweetInternet 10 points 21 hours ago

Really ? I found it to be booohaki using 20 words where one would have sufficed.
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[] zreo15 6 points 18 hours ago

He copied the west model of lobbying (7 words)

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[] blitzkadu123 Bharat Mata ki... 3 points 13 hours ago

The main thrust of the economics of Mudi Govt, according to the article, is the corporate-govt nexus. Not just
lobbying.
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[] phone_throw12 Chhattisgarh 22 points 21 hours ago*

Nice article , centralization of Corruption in BJP - have got the same sense in my state too . A reason why govt. took over liquor
sales in Chhattisgarh
This is good for metro-waalas and people in cow belt with no natural resources but for Adivasis we are fucked bcoz in BJP's
model of centralized corruption we would be the biggest loser , there is lot of dilution going on with respect to forest rights and
Gram Sabha's power with respect to mining
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[] usernamecheckssout 4 points 13 hours ago

You are right. Moreover, this "Business Corruption" does not ensure that the common woman is not being extracted undue
amounts, the way she was subjected to in case of "Administrative Corruption". It is just that the form changes, with the
possibility of some beneficial spin-offs. So, while Adani may be allotted land and resources at less than market value, in
return for contributing to party funds, he may still use his extractive power from the common citizens.
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 7 points 19 hours ago

The corruption of the BJP is 'clean corruption' and hence is much harder to nail.
Agree with you on the Adivasi part. It is the weakest whose rate of growth will be so slow, they keep getting increasingly
left behind as the powerful help each other exploit resources of the land and zoom light-years ahead of us.
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[] rishi_sambora Universe 7 points 19 hours ago

This is one of the best things I have read on this subreddit.

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[] parlor_tricks 5 points 15 hours ago

Excellent article, and to add to the discussion

Why DO people want those massive statues? Why is the Shivaji statue, or the Patel statue or X.Y.Z statue being built? State
Tourism budgets. Money decides elections today. It decides how many people you can pay off, how many ads you can buy, how
many rallies you can hold. Now suppose, a few months before the elections, your CM goes to many states and endorses a
Massive tourist attraction they are making, a project which is amazing on paper. They go state to state, to the masses talking
about how amazing the project is going to be, all on the state tourism budget for advertising. Since the EC is pretty strict on
abuse of such rules, you must of course be pretty strict about what you speak at the event. But if the event happens to use a
tag line for the state, which happens to be tied strongly to your image.
Well, then you know how to leverage one asset into another.
This is why Modi is one of the best new Politicians in the running. The man and his team know their shit, down to the Ps. They
do extensive data analysis on all elections, they attract a lot of talent to their brand, and on top of it, keep a strong grass roots
presence via their RSS allies.
Unfortunately while Money + politics is bad, Money + Elections is corrosive. If party A wins an election with say, 1000 crore
investment, next year Party B knows what it needs to match. A large chunk of this money goes into advertising spending. The
competition in the media channels drives people to garner as many eye balls as possible. The network who has the best hold of
its audience, and the least moral strength, gets the most of this money. As a result, the fourth estate fails. Which is what is
increasingly happening in India.
India is importing the American style of politics, and the new website/channel raised by Arnab is shaping up to be the latest fox
news variant our population has to deal with.
I foresee a terrible future, where people yell falsehoods to a mass of people, who have no idea whats really going on.
This coming election cycle is going to be more than interesting.
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[] bhiliyam 26 points 22 hours ago

The medium has also published this article and you can submit that.
https://medium.com/indian-thoughts/something-interesting-is-happening-in-indian-politics-and-its-not-right-wing-nationalism-
1a775dbf6ffe
The medium article comes with the following disclaimer:
This piece is completely a thought exercise and rooted only minimally in data and experiences.
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[] rorschach34 [S] 8 points 21 hours ago

This piece is completely a thought exercise and rooted only minimally in data and experiences.
Yeah. That is why I included this line at the start - "However, it would be interesting if you guys can add to this discussion."
So share your thoughts as well bhiliyam. You feel his analysis is incorrect?
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[] toifeld 10 points 20 hours ago

The whole thing does hold water. Just that it is not the only reason the BJP is winning
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[] parlor_tricks 4 points 15 hours ago

I can say with a lot of certainty, that the BJP money game is definitely why they are winning.
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars -3 points 18 hours ago

Just that it is not the only reason the BJP is winning

EVMs.
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[] mean_median Here's to the mess we make 4 points 21 hours ago

So Kahaani Part 3?
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[] duckshooter 5 points 21 hours ago

This piece is completely a thought exercise and rooted only minimally in data and experiences.
AKA Mental Masturbation.
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[] rindiaa 4 points 15 hours ago

Modi and BJP might not hold on to power for too long.
Modi army on social media and all those paid trolls will become a liability, they need huge amount of money, in absence
of which will turn against BJP
If some other party comes in promising lower tax rates and lower need for party expenses, they will look good to the
corporations.
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[] baba_seagull 13 points 20 hours ago

This is on point. The writer has written what I always used to think. And honestly this model is good for the country for at least
next 10-20 years until corporate lobbies become big enough.
We are headed the USA way. This is the only win-win way right now.
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[] Froogler 13 points 19 hours ago

until corporate lobbies become big enough.

They exist already. It's just that they work in the newer industries. Trump harps on coal because those industries are big
and the lobbyists more powerful. With India, the lobbyists exist in newer industries like solar and construction. Adani is not
winning his solar projects out of merit alone.
But I agree with you. In both cases, people pay for the parties. But this model at least gives us better products and
services in the end.
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 5 points 19 hours ago

In both cases, people pay for the parties. But this model at least gives us better products and services in the end.
Only for those who can pay more and buy greater influence. The infamous Paryushan meat bans of Mumbai are a case
in point.
What about sections who cannot match the former in spending power?
What about sections whose money won't be touched with a barge pole, like the LGBTs?
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[] Froogler 6 points 18 hours ago

Think of two scenarios - a vendor pays bribes to police which goes to party coffers. The vendor makes up for this
loss by hiking the price of the veggies he sells.
In another scenario, the vendor does not deal with bribes. The political party offers the road construction to a
company which makes up for its sponsorship through tolls. The veggies which come to your town through the road
now have to pay the toll which is recovered through hike in veggie prices.
In both cases, you pay the political parties through higher vegetable prices. But in the second scenario, you at least
get better roads which increases productivity and thus helps you increase your standard of living.
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 5 points 18 hours ago

There's a confounding factor. Another vendor comes up and is willing to pay more than the first one. Police
strike deal with him and prevent the first vendor from selling in the area. Customers forced to deal with the
latter who now refuses to sell onions and garlic because according to his favorite monk, these vegetables are
not sattvik and can cause libido to go haywire on account of their 'sulphurous' semen-like quality. So we're
better off without 'fixing' on the basis of such spending capabilities. Unfortunately this realization will hit home
only when it actually singes you.
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[] Froogler 3 points 18 hours ago

Thanks for contributing to what I have said. Your example shows why it is a bad idea to allow the bribe
economy to fester in the first place.
In the second example I shared, police are not forced to seek bribes by their superiors. They would fine
both the vendors if they try to set up illegal hawking spaces. The fines collected go to the government
treasury which provides most of the citizen amenities and services. Again, better standard of living for
people.
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 [] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 3 points 18 hours ago

Your example shows why it is a bad idea to allow the bribe economy to fester in the first place.
Yes. But I also vehemently disagree with your statement:
In both cases, people pay for the parties. But this model at least gives us better products and
services in the end.

In the second example I shared, police are not forced to seek bribes by their superiors. They would
fine both the vendors if they try to set up illegal hawking spaces. The fines collected go to the
government treasury which provides most of the citizen amenities and services. Again, better
standard of living for people.
That is not happening in practice. The vendor who refuses to sell onions and garlic is let off on account
of his purchase of influence with the rulers and he is back on the streets again while the other one cools
his heels in prison.
And customers still don't get to buy onion and garlic.
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[] baba_seagull 7 points 18 hours ago

They were paying up bribes after bribes in the previous setup as well without any positive impact. They were non
influential then too, are non influential now as well. This new system changes nothing in that sense but brings out
better services for citizens in general without differentiating between them on the basis of caste/religion.
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 7 points 18 hours ago

This new system changes nothing in that sense but brings out better services for citizens in general without
differentiating between them on the basis of caste/religion.
Wrong.
Because there is good correlation between caste and class identities in India. We haven't reached a point where
these barriers have blurred enough. Hence, greater spending power of some sections will skew services to their
exclusive preferences as is already being seen in real world scenarios.
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[] phone_throw12 Chhattisgarh 4 points 17 hours ago

People here are so dense man , they don't get what they are signing up for , so much fangiri
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[] baba_seagull 3 points 19 hours ago

I meant lobbies strong enough to force the Govt wage a war on foreign soil or blatantly violate human rights in the
country.
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[] phone_throw12 Chhattisgarh 9 points 17 hours ago*

Corporate lobbying eats up the democracy and public good . Why do you think healthcare is costly in USA ?
People here are so US centrici that they lose logic , that country has some chutiya fundas . Go for state funding of elections
rather than support corporate lobbying
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[] gcs8 A people ruled by traders will eventually be reduced to beggars 5 points 15 hours ago

People here are so US centrici that they lose logic

Oh but just tell them about how the Americans stay away from EVMs, and you get a meltdown..
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[] baba_seagull 1 point 17 hours ago

How does the state funding work? The state would sponsor all the contestants from its stash to fight the
elections/manage fund party organisations? From where will this money come from?
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[] phone_throw12 Chhattisgarh 5 points 17 hours ago

 As an ex EC Chief said given money on every vote received after a threshold . Source of funding :taxes we are
already paying that indirectly
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[] usernamecheckssout 1 point 13 hours ago

The problem with that is, how do you ensure parties are not spending over and above what the state is
providing them?
Right now, Expenditure = a*x, where x is a variable depending on how much the party is able to leverage from
its corrupt sources.
After state funding, it will become Expenditure = ax + b, b is the constant that has been added from the state's
resources
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[] viksi Jivey Jivey Kejriwal 12 points 19 hours ago*

In a democracy, sooner or later an unscrupulous demagogue comes in and take over all power. fascism works because money
and power attract the wrong people and win elections.
A very interesting video on this...Rules for rulers
https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs
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[] rindiaa 3 points 17 hours ago

great video! will read the book.

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[] langearys 1 percenter (from the bottom) 4 points 16 hours ago

It's a fascinating read. After that you can follow up with their actual thesis,
The Logic of Political Survival - MIT Press
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[] rindiaa 1 point 15 hours ago

Thanks!
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[] parlor_tricks 8 points 15 hours ago

Vyapam coming up.

But yes, this is exactly whats going on. All of the people fighting on reddit generally seem to miss this.
If you had any inkling of this - you would have known exactly what demonitization was on day 1. The same way this cow crap
is also targetted at reducing election costs/improving election results.
ALL of this - is the Super PAC issue America faces in elections.
The amount of money in elections directly impacts the ability of corrupt politicians to remain corrupt.
Want to reduce corruption, reduce and enforce election spending.
This is why channels like the Republic are a HUGE danger for our country in the long run.
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[] AdityaRav 3 points 20 hours ago

Tl;dr anyone? I'm at college. Can't read the whole thing

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[] Bahuballsy 8 points 20 hours ago

Nice article, though overtly simplistic, even as pure speculation.

And I don't think Congress still has 5x the resources of the BJP - otherwise they would not need to indulge in petty corruption
like the Vadra land deals and the National Herald skulduggery. Even if they have them it is all tied up abroad or in the hands of
benamis in India who will now not be so willing to hand it all back so easily.
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[] prod_deshbhakt India 2 points 11 hours ago

 otherwise they would not need to indulge in petty corruption
I really don't think that is how it works. Vadra is not being corrupt for the sake of Congress. He is just a petty scum bag
criminal who managed to score the Gandhi daughter and is doing whatever he can to enrich himself. The connections to
Congress allow him to spin vast schemes and make a lot of money. This money does not go into some common Congress
pool from where it can be used to improve the fortunes of the party or distributed to leaders to but their loyalty.
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[] iVarun 1 point 12 hours ago

Relevant, https://adrindia.org/
It publishes reports on Party donations/funding.
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[] kalo_asmi -2 points 19 hours ago

Ironic that the only source cited is NDTV.

On another post people are asking for evidence against NDTV, despite there being a string of incriminating articles, leaks, and
cases against them since the flood gates were opened by MJ Akbar in 2010.
And here we are, accepting without a scrap of evidence, a long winded narrative about Modi's corruption without a single case
or official report to back it up.
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[] rorschach34 [S] 12 points 18 hours ago

And here we are, accepting without a scrap of evidence, a long winded narrative about Modi's corruption without a
single case or official report to back it up.
Nope. I merely posted this because the article seemed interesting. This is certainly not proof of Modi's or INC's corruption.
This is merely a thought exercise and author prefaces it by - "This piece is completely a thought exercise and rooted only
minimally in data and experiences."
And this is not a critique of Modi. This merely analyzes how political parties get funding.
Ironic that the only source cited is NDTV.
That source is just used to estimate cost of LS elections. The point of the article is completely different.
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[] phone_throw12 Chhattisgarh 7 points 17 hours ago

Lol that reference was a reference to news sighting how much money is used in LS election in A state , 25 crore per Candi
which is a genuine figure if you have any idea of indian politics +accounting
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[] prod_deshbhakt India 0 points 10 hours ago

A very interesting albeit a very far fetched article. And here are my amateur analysis on it:
1. Administrative corruption: This seems frankly unbelievable to me. The scale is simply too big, and seems to involve
every single Administrative Officer. The author only notes officers of state cadre but there is no reason not to extend this
model to officers of Central cadre too. But we know that there are officers who are genuinely honest and who do not
compromise their morals (we also know how they are treated by the political class, but that is irrelevant). Involving every
officer means that even the peons and clerks would be aware of this food chain. There is just too many points of failure.
This system seems completely unmanageable. Are you saying that not a single civil servant in 70 years ever came
forward about it? Not a single guy revealed it to some outsider in frustration? Not a single officer over extended and blew
the entire thing in his greed to maximize his personal fortune (they also get a cut as a reward for keeping silent)?
2. Business Corruption: Seems pretty likely. And since I do not accept point 1 as a large source of income, I think this is
even bigger source of party funds than the author estimates. Pretty much every party is guilty of it one way or another.
It is naive to assume that BJP is more or less corrupt than Congress. Only time will tell. Remember all the scams from
UPA 1 came out in UPA 2.
Coming specifically to Modi:
I think the author missed one key point. Modi for some reason does not seem to take anything for himself. He has an almost
ascetic like image (though a very proud one, but we know they existed). This is even stranger as his family is also quite poor
and even they have not been enriched by his time as CM, AFAIK. Contrast this with some of the other CMs who have come
from a humble background (Lalu, Mulayam etc.). I bet this also feeds into his image and popularity.
No funds required from the government to the party.
I find myself in agreement with Modi's style of governance. After all it lead to:
This simple choice allowed the CM to focus on selecting the best candidates for ministerial and senior officer
roles. We can take this even further and imagine that the CM says to his ministers and officials, you perform and Ill take
care of you.
This literally the job definition of a minister. According to me, a PM or CM does not need to be an Engineering graduate or a
Professor of Economics, a chaiwala will do just fine. He needs to be someone who can select the best people to give him
advice. People whom he can trust. Though who those people are, and whether the current chaiwala has employed them is up
for debate. Of course, it is a plus if he is educated.
His job is to sell to public the schemes his policy makers come up with and then get his officers and ministers to execute them
efficiently. And to build political consensus within and without the party. This is why MMS is a singularly unfit PM. He has no
political capital and hence no influence within the Congress party, was beholden to someone else for his position and has no
political acumen. He is not an orator or inspirational so he cannot rally the public behind him and gain popularity and influence
that way either. He would have been much better suited to be a Finance Minister or even better a top adviser to Fin. Min. Leave
the politics to someone who can actually do it.
This centralized corruption strategy starts to do a couple of thingsyou start to control the party and hence the elections,
and second, you really start to control the government for performance.... You start to select ministers and
leaders for performance rather than party revenues.
I guess I am happy about this. It is sad, that this can't be achieved without this level of corruption, but I will take it.
But Deshbhakt, aren't you selling out to the corporations?
The answer is yes, yes I am. But as the author clearly notes, it is not as if the other parties are not beholden to them. They still
provide a large of amount funding for all other parties. Any of this coming out will severely damage said party. And if I refuse
to tow their (corporation's) line they will silently start funding my opponents and I may end up losing the election. This is could
be extremely damaging to me, as a I am also majorly dependent on Administrative corruption as a source of revenue. The
corporations, whom I have made an enemy will not be backing me anytime soon as I broke our deal. These factors ensure that
I am beholden to big corporations either way. The best I can do to maximize my chances of winning elections is to provide
better services to the public (which Modi did, at least going by this article). This way at least some good comes out of of this
mess.
Of course, my conclusion is based on author's own statements which indicate that Modi's style of Centralized corruption
resulted in better services to the public. Without that, it is pointless to argue for this position.
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[] hungryfoolish [score hidden] 5 minutes ago

I think the author missed one key point. Modi for some reason does not seem to take anything for himself. He has an
almost ascetic like image (though a very proud one, but we know they existed). This is even stranger as his family is
also quite poor and even they have not been enriched by his time as CM, AFAIK. > Contrast this with some of the other
CMs who have come from a humble background (Lalu, Mulayam etc.). I bet this also feeds into his image and
popularity.
That is because at the top level of RSS leadership, you real family is the Sangh. Is a fallacy to say that just because a
person doesn't have a family or is not giving them profits, that a person cannot be corrupt.
The case of the south korean president (Who ran and won on the exact same justifcation) was one of the most corrupt
people in korean politics and ultimately was impeached. Turns out she was being highly influenced by a quasi-religious
quack who basically took over many aspects of the govt and engaged in corrupt practices.
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