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Below is the changes that will be taking place in the system due to changes in Company’s Act
2013 incorporation:
1.) If life of the asset has decreased:- e.g. there is asset for which original life is 10 years, 3 years already
completed as on 31 March 2014 and now life has decreased to 7 years. In this scenario, WDV as on 31
st st
March 2014 should be depreciation over the period of 4 years instead of 7 years. How to carry out this
change
1. A New Depreciation key would be created which will calculate the
depreciation on the remaining useful life of assets as maintained in
the Asset Master.
2. For the New Assets, no changes are required but for Existing Assets,
the changes in the Asset Master is required to be done in the Useful
Life of Asset as well as in the Depreciation Key of the Asset. This
changes will be done by the User’s.
2.) If life of the asset has increased:- e.g. there is asset for which original life is 10 years, 3 years already
completed as on 31st March 2014 and now life has decreased to 12 years. In this scenario, WDV as on 31st
March 2014 should be depreciation over the period of 9 years instead of 7 years. How to carry out this change
3. This will be catered in the same way as is done for the above point
(1.)
3.) If the life of the asset is already over after change in rates:- e.g. there is asset for which original life is 10
years, 7 years already completed as on 31st March 2014 and now life has decreased to 6 years. In this scenario,
WDV as on 31st March 2014 should be charged to the opening reserve. How to carry out this change
4. In this case an entry is to be posted in the system by User, for which
the GL’s needs to be provided by the business.
Below shows the detailed example for the above mentioned points.
1. If the Life of asset has decreased:
Asset No. : 211000112
Depre key – ZS15 – which is depreciating the Asset on Useful Life basis.
The planned values for depreciation posting is as below for Fiscal year 2015 :
Now changing the useful life of assets from 4 years to 3 years. So now the Asset will be write off
in 3 years as shown below:
From above we can see that depreciation per period has changed from 415.63 to 581.88 due to
change in useful life of assets.
Now changing the useful life of assets from 4 years to 5 years. So now the Asset will get written
off in 5 years as shown below:
The Comparison tab is as below:
From above we can see that depreciation per period has changed from 3750.66 to 0 due to
change in useful life of assets. And the remaining NBV of the Asset of 86265.40 will be removed
by executing T-Code ABAA for this Asset as shown below:
Then press enter. After this on next screen enter the NBV of the Asset i.e. 86,265.40
From above we can see that this entry will be getting posted in the system. The accounting entry
for the same is :
This is the testing GL that we have used in posting key 40, that would be the Reserve GL that
would be provided by the Client.
After this the entry will be posted in the FI and by AA and FI will be in synchronization.
Kindly revert if any additions or changes or suggestions for the above document.
Regards,
Malhar.
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But i have few doubts. please clarify [or i am dumb enough not to be able to follow the lucid
illustration above!!!]
The assets in the FAR will have different variety of assets having different remaining useful life of
assets as maintained in the existing Asset Master should we create so many keys depending upon the
remaining useful period of life like 1,2,3,4,5,…. etc 15?
The retained earnings [or reserve a/c] is nothing but the balance in profit and loss a/c for which a gl code
would have been assigned for, we need to give this glcode for assiging to cases of unplanned depreciation?
kindly clarify with example..
In your example number 3 you have mentioned and i quote “If the life of the asset is already over
after change in rates:- e.g. there is asset for which original life is 10 years, 7 years already completed as on 31st
March 2014 and now life has decreased to 6 years.” how it can get reduced to 6 years if original is 10 and 7
yeras already completed. not clear..
Kindly clarify
K Sreedhar
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Regarding the creation of new depreciation keys for different useful life is not correct. You have
to create a single depreciation key just like standard depreciation key ‘LINR’ and tickt the
depreciation to the day box and active it. Then in your asset master if the old depreciation key is
not having the ‘depreciation to the day’ box ticked then you have to assign depreciation key
‘LINR’ else you will assign new created Depreciation key and then you will update the useful life
of assets to remaining useful life of assets.
Option 3 states that if the required useful life is already over then the system should post the
unplanned depreciation for the whole NBV of the asset. take an example. Useful life of asset is
10 years and its purchased for 1000 Rs. Now 7 years are passed and NBV of the asset is 300
Rs. Now according to Indian Companies Act, 2013, the useful life of such Asset should be only 6
years. So now already 7 years are passed which is not proper. And as the depreciaiton for last
year is posted we cannot make nay changes to the same. So now the remaining 300 Rs will be
posted through unplanned depreciation debiting the Reserve GL and crediting the Accumulated
Depreciation GL.
Hope I am clear.
Regards,
Malhar.
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Thanks,
Ajit Desai
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The Reserve GL needs to be assigned in the Depreciation Tab under the ‘Accumulated dep.
account unpl. deprec.’ But if your client is using the Unplanned Depreciation concept then a
particular GL would be already assigned then you can do is post to that assigned GL the entry of
unplanned depreciation and then pass a manual JV of that Reserve Account debit and the
expense GL assinged above credit.
Regards,
Malhar.
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in aw01n.
Thanks
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2. Sethuraman Ganesamurthy June 9, 2014 at 8:48 am
Good effort Malhar.
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Regards,
Malhar.
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Low value assets which are depreciated 100% before 1st April, 2014 no treatment is required. if
any asset is created under low value asset class after 01/04/2014 the same should be
transferred to respective asset class and need to depreciated based on useful life and not 100%.
Thanks,
Ravindra Mahajan
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Thanks
Shripal Bhavsar
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What is the settings you have done for the depreciation key.
Regards
ACR.Ruben
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2. How we calculate the Depreciation on WDV basis over remaining useful life?
Regards,
VS
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Is it possible if you can provide us with the testing document,end user testing documentation and
all testing related documentation which you would have gathered from the FICO team after this
new depreciation calculation cycle.
If possible, Can you please mail the above things on my personal email id–
mehtravi@yahoo.co.in
Thanks
Ravi Mehta
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We are not able to understand , as how to configure a new Depreciation Key to address the
scenario having Depreciation under WDV method and after the Asset useful life , the Asset
value has to be maintained at 5% of it’s original purchase cost .
With Regards
B Mittal
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If you would put the screen shots of your depreciation key configuration (including base method /
multi-level method and period control method, which could be handy for consultants working for
Indian clients.
Best Regards,
Ravi
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it would have been great help, if the screen shots of the depreciation key were mentioned
regards,
shreyas
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Good document….please confirm is it the only option to go with different depreciation keys for
calculating the depreciation for remaining life of the asset……?
If yes….If there are many assets which will fall under the category of ” calculating the
depreciation for remaining life of the asset” will leads to the maintenance of many depreciation
keys…
Let me clear…Is there any easier approach can be followed to achieve these new changes in the
Act.?
Regards,
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Pavan
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Our Book Depreciation area is 01 with FY- Jan to Dec. When we made the configurational
changes the remaining depreciation is calculating taking the Year opening NBV as Base amount.
Is there any solution in which we can put the NBV of 1st April. Please suggest
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When we change the useful life for Local (ie) 5 to 4 years in 2014 it is adjusting in 2013
And showing as ➖in 12 period how to solve kindly guide and also in IFRS it is showing for
the same
For 2013. W e have two ledgers IFRS (01) Depreciation area and
Local (20) Depreciation area
When we change the useful life for Local (ie) 5 to 4 years in 2014 it is adjusting in 2013
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Please share the screen shot of your asset explorer. That will have to provide proper solution.
Regards,
Malhar.
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When we change the useful life for Local (ie) 5 to 4 years in 2014 it is adjusting in 2013
And showing as ➖in 12 period how to solve kindly guide and also in IFRS it is showing for
the same For 2013.
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Can you tell us whether you have ticked for Depreciation to the day in ZS15 key created for
depreciation as per new companies act 2013?
Our company calculates the depreciation on SLM with depreciation to the day tick & with residual
5%.
As per new act, we are trying to create depreciation key based on useful life
We have applied above key for newly created asset whose acquisition cost is 125000 useful life
is 15 years but in Asset explorer in comparison it shows depreciation 7916.67 for
2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019
Vaishali Gharat
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From the above scenario is it necessary to change the Dep key and useful life for 3rd Procedure
Ie “If the life of the asset is already over after change in rates“ ?
what is the nature of Depriciation Resrve GL I mean Bal sheet or P&L, Client is asking for a
balance sheet A/C but to ma knowledge we can assign only P&L Account in Depriciation folder
setting of AO90.
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1. Balance useful life is exist but Net Book value is less than 5% (Residual value) of Gross Block
Value in this scenario i am unable to update the balance useful life, however, my client is not
agreeing to appreciate the asset value to meet the 5% of GBV.
2. Is same as Point No.1 but there is an addition to it in 2014 (July’14) since i am unable to
update the balance useful life depreciation for the addition is not computing.
regards,
Yogesh. J
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15. Thilak Chagantipati March 20, 2015 at 7:24 am
Dear All,
As per new com act depreciation will be cal on useful life basis SLM is ok but in the WDV method
calculation like this (in Excel).As per Our requirement is like this
As per Sap
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we need dep rate is uniform for entire useful life of asset
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As per not 2052506 – India Companies Act solution effective from 01.04.2014 – New Depreciation engine we
have done the changes.
However when we are using the WDV method based on useful life we are facing issues. The depreciation is not
getting posted till the end of useful life of the asset and also the rates are not uniform year on year basis.
Suppose asset life is say 60 years, the NBV will reach to its scrap value before completion of 60 years.
Due to this we are not able to post depreciation for 2014-15 and closure of our books of account is held up.
Regards,
Arpit Asawa
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