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EXPLAINING HEBREWS 6:4-6 AND HEBREWS CHAPTER 10

By

Bernard Cox

If ever there was a scriptural admonition that every professing Christian should take cognisance of,
for the sake of bringing peace of mind, and increased faith, concerning their eternal destiny and
security of salvation... this is it. These scriptures are seldom brought to the fore... because of its
scary, yet vitally important context. MODERN CHURCHES NEVER, EVER PREACH ON THIS;
AND THEREFORE, MOST ‘CHRISTIANS’ HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFRONTED WITH THIS
SCRIPTURE AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO THEIR SALVATION. Satan does not want you to read
and learn from this explanation.
Since this topic relates to ‘THE’ ultimate deciding topic of being saved or not saved, ‘IT’ deserves
the thoroughness provided here.
Yes! It is a long explanation but failing to grasp the understanding of the truth within can be the
deciding factor of your knowledge of your current standing before the Lord based upon His Word.
Be warned, God will judge mankind by His Word... not by what a good person you have been, or a
church or anyone’s interpretation of His Word. You be your own judge of where you stand.
This commentary is taken from an excerpt from a meeting held by William Branham on Questions
and Answers on the Holy Ghost on Saturday the 19th. December 1959 and again on 15th. October
1961.
Question. BROTHER BRANHAM, PLEASE EXPLAIN HEBREWS 6:4 TO 6?
HEBREWS 6:1-6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto
perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of
eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit. FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO
WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED, AND HAVE TASTED OF THE HEAVENLY GIFT, AND WERE
MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST, AND HAVE TASTED THE GOOD WORD OF
GOD, AND THE POWERS OF THE WORLD TO COME, IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO
RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE; SEEING THEY CRUCIFY TO THEMSELVES
THE SON OF GOD AFRESH, AND PUT HIM TO AN OPEN SHAME.
‘Now, here is a real sticker, friends. Oh, it's--it's a dandy Scripture, but it's a sticker to every person,
seems to be. And it stuck, (baffeled) me for years and years; and only by the grace of God... And my
precious wife, setting right back there now, when she heard that I had that question this afternoon,
she said, "Bill, how do you answer that?" She said, "I've always wondered that myself." Said, "I
never could understand it."
I said, "Come down tonight, sweetheart. I'll do my best by the help of God."
That's one time it really... See, now you'll have to watch here on our faith, grace, security of the
believers, perseverance of the saints--perseverance, rather, of the saints. Hebrews the 6th chapter, 4
to 6...
Now, you have to watch. Now remember, we believe and teach at this church, ‘not that everything
comes up and shouts, everything that speaks in tongues, everything that shake hands with the
preacher, has got ‘‘ETERNAL’ Life’. But we believe if you've got ETERNAL Life, if God has given
you ETERNAL Life, you've got It forever. See? Because look. If it isn't, Jesus is a false teacher. In
St. John 5:24, He said, "He that heareth My words and believeth on Him that sent Me has
‘‘EVERLASTING’ Life’, and shall never come to the judgment, but has passed from death unto
Life." Now, argue with Him. "All the Father has given Me... No man can come to Me except the
Father draws him. (I'm quoting Scripture.) All that comes... No man can come to Me except My
Father draws him first. And all, that My Father has given Me will come to Me. (See?) And all that
comes to Me, I'll give them Everlasting Life (St. John 6), and will raise him up at the last days."
That's His words.
Now look. If I want to go back to Ephesians the 1st chapter, Paul preaching... Now, the Corinthians,
each one had a tongue and a song. You notice the other churches didn't have that trouble. He never
said nothing about it. Did He ever mention tongues anywhere in the Ephesian church, the Roman
church? No. They had tongues and everything just like the Corinthians did, BUT THEY HAD IT
SET IN ORDER. The Corinthians just couldn't get it in order. See? But Paul went down there and
set the church in order.
Now, I believe, as Oral Roberts says, "God's a good God." Don't you believe that?
And you say, "Well, what about the Pentecostals with the tongues then, Brother Branham?" I think
they got the Holy Ghost. Sure they did. All right, why? Look. You believe He's a good God?
Thomas said one time, "You know, Lord..."
All of the rest of them believed Him. Said, "Oh, we know He's real."
"Oh," Thomas said, "no, no, I don't believe it. The only way I'll believe it, I'll have to have some
evidence. I'll have to stick my fingers in His side and in the prints of the nails in His hands."
He's a good God. He said, "Come on, Thomas. Here you are."
"Oh," Thomas said, "now I believe."
He said, "Yes, Thomas, after you seen Me, and felt Me, and put your hands in My side, you believe.
But how much greater is their reward who had never seen and yet believe." He's a good God. He
gives you the desire of your heart, of course. Let's just believe Him. THAT'S THE DEATH
STROKE TO SATAN. When a man takes God at His Word, brother, that'll kill Satan every time.
That's the hardest hit that Satan can get, when a man will take God at His Word. Yes, sir.
As Jesus said, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but every word that proceedeth out..."
Now, notice this. Now, I'm going to start the first verse:
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection;...
Now, the first thing I want you to know: who is Paul talking to here? Hebrews; they say Hebrews,
that taught the Book of Hebrews. Is that right? The Jews that had rejected Jesus... Can you--you
catch it now? He's talking to the Jews, showing them the shadow of the law being a type of Christ,
all the old things a type of the new. Now, watch.
... leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection;...
Now, he's been talking to them about the doctrines. Let us go and talk about the perfected things.
Now, YOU ARE PERFECTED IN GOD WHEN YOU'RE SEALED BY THE HOLY GHOST
UNTIL THE DAY OF YOUR REDEMPTION. "He that is borned of God (I John) does not commit
sin; for he cannot sin, for the Seed of God remains in him."
A man that's filled with the Holy Ghost, not thinks he's filled, but he that's born of the Spirit of God
does not commit sin, for the Seed of God is in him, and he cannot sin. See? Does Bible say that? So
there it is. You are... Not what you do, not what the world thinks of you; it's what God thinks of you.
See, see? You cannot...
How can I have an order written by the mayor of the city, that I can drive forty miles an hour
through the city, and any policeman arrest me? I can't be arrested. How can I sin when there's a
Blood offering before God constantly, where He can't even see me, when there's a bumper... before
me and God, a shield of Blood; for we are dead, and our life is hid in Christ through God, sealed by
the Holy Ghost. How in the world can you do anything wrong in the sight of God. "If we sin
willfully (Hebrews 10) after we received the knowledge of the truth, there's no more sacrifice for
sin." In here it's impossible (See?) to sin willfully. (What is sin? Sin is "unbelief." Unbelief in
(what?) the Word; unbelief in God, which is the Word. "If you don't do as Abel did! You seen I've
vindicated him, and made him right. Now if you don't do that, then, (it shows that)—sin lays at the
door." that sin, is unbelief of the revealed, vindicated Word of God, See?) - THE INVISIBLE
UNION OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST – 25-11-1965

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169 Now, let's go ahead and read. All right,
... perfection; not laying again the foundation of--of repentance from dead works, and... faith
towards God, of the doctrine of baptisms,... laying on of hands, and of the resurrection of the dead,
and... eternal judgement.
And this... we do, if God permit, (Now here's where they wanted to start, from the 4th verse.)
For it is impossible for those... once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were
made partakers of the Holy Ghost.
And have tasted of the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
If they shall fall away, to renew--renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to
themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Now, now, that looks like, from the way you're reading it there, that a man could receive the Holy
Ghost, and then backslide and be lost. But it's impossible for him to do it. See? He can't do it. If he
did, Christ lied. See? It's impossible for those once enlightened. Now, watch here. What's he
speaking to? He's speaking to those borderline Jews. He never said, "a man being filled with the
Holy Ghost"; he said, "If he has tasted the Word of God."
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171 Now, let me just give it in a parabolic, (Resembling or expressed by parables) so that you'll see
and won't miss it now. Now, he's writing to these Jews. Some of them are borderline believers. See?
He said, "Now, we're going to leave these works and go on to talk about perfection." Said, "Now,
we're talking about baptisms, and resurrection of the dead, and laying on of the hands, and
everything; but let's go ahead now to talk about perfection, Now, we're going to talk about when
you come into the Holy Ghost. Now, you've been hanging around the meeting a long time..."
And you've seen those people. They'll stay around; they won't come in or go out. They appreciate
the Holy Ghost. They'll come around. And maybe the Holy Ghost do something, and, man, they'll
get up and shout and jump up-and-down the floor about it, but they never want to receive It
themselves. No, no. See? And they'll say, "Oh, yes, that's good. Oh, I don't know about that now."
See, see, see? Borderline believers. Just so close till they can taste It, but yet they don't receive It.
See? Now, they hang around like that so long till after a while they drift completely away. I can call
the names of many was at the Tabernacle, done the same thing. Fall all the way away again, - 'to
renew themselves unto repentance, there's no repentance for them. They just grieved the Spirit away
from them. They've been so close till...'
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173 Here, if you would turn with me (You don't have time I know, now--but if you would turn to
Deuteronomy the 1st chapter and read it, you'll get the same thing. Marking it down now,
Deuteronomy the 1st chapter. Now, and begin at the 19th verse and read through to the 26th.
Deuteronomy... You'll find out... Now look. All of Israel... What them people do, they come to
Kadesh-barnea. Oh, I see something. This tabernacle, this Pentecostal world is at Kadesh-barnea
right now. That's exactly right, Brother Neville. We're at Kadesh-barnea, the judgement seat of the
world, was the judgement seat).
And spies went out. Joshua said here, "Now, I sent spies..." or Moses, rather, "I sent spies--twelve,
one of--one man out of each one of your tribes. I sent them to spy out the land and bring back a
report." Is that right? And when they come back, there was nine out of the twelve said, "Oh, it's a
good land, but oh, mercy, we can't take it. Oh, my. The Amorites are there, and we look like
grasshoppers up the side of them. They're armed men. Their walls are big. Oh, it's too--why, I wish
we'd have died down yonder in Egypt instead of you bringing us out here."
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175 Why, little old Caleb and Joshua jumped up there and quietened them, said, "We're more than
able to take it." Yes, sir. There's the one. Now, look. What happened? Caleb and Joshua knew that
God gave the promise of it: "I don't care how big it is, how much the obstacles are, how high they
are, how great they are, that don't have nothing to do with it. God said so; we can take it." And do
you know they were the only two people that--out of that two and a half million that ever crossed
into the land? Because they held their faith in what God said to be the truth. Amen.
The Tabernacle, right now, stands at Kadesh-barnea. Look, them people was so close till they even
tasted the grapes out of the land. They eat the grapes. When Caleb and them went over and brought
back the grapes, them fellows pulled off some and eat them, "Oh, they're good, but we can't do it."
"They that have tasted the good work of God, have tasted of the Holy Spirit, seen the goodness of
It, tasted of It, has tasted of the Word of God..." See that? None of them men, not one of them ever
was permitted to go over. They perished in the wilderness. They never went over, yet they was close
enough to taste it, but not enough grace and faith to take it. That's what it is.
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177 Now. Now, listen to that dear person that wrote this letter. Let's just read the next verse. Watch
just a minute. Watch Paul. Now, let's read the 7th.
For the earth... drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meats for them
to whom it is dressed, receiveth blessings from God:
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be
burned.
Now, see what he says. Now, watch. There was this question here; now, and then we'll close... This
thing liked to killed me for years.
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179 I went to a meeting one time where people were speaking with tongues at Mishawaka, Indiana.
Now, I'm before my own crowd. You've heard them people--heard me tell my life story, and about
the colored man that said, "Here he is. Here he is." Now, I told that.
But the rest of it: I seen two men. They were... One would give a message; the other one interpret it.
The other one give a message; the other one interpret it. And brother, they was correct. Just this... I
thought, "My goodness. I never seen anything like that." I said, "I'm amongst angels." I thought, "I
never seen anything..." One would speak, and the other one...
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181 And I sit back there as a little old preacher, you [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]... both men sometime
and shake their hand. I never seen such men in my life. They'd speak a message; the other one
would interpret it. And my, my. It was wonderful. One would speak and the other one interpret.
Both... And they'd just turn chalky white when they'd raise their hands up. I thought, "Oh, my, my,
where have I been all my life. This is the thing." I said, "My, Pentecostals are right." That's exactly
right.
I never seen much but just what was right down around in here, where the--maybe a couple of
women with a mission somewhere... And they'd be fussing; and one calling the other, "buzzard
roost," and, you know, just like that, kinda fussing at one another. Not no disregarding to the women
now or nothing, but just... It--it was on the low ebb. If any of you... You can remember, Brother
Graham, you was just a little boy at that time. And so, that's the way it was.
And I listened to that, and I thought, "Oh, my, I've hit angels."
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183 One day coming around the corner of the house, about the second day, I met one of the men. I
said, "How do you do, sir?"
He said, "How do you do?" He said, "Are--what's your name?"
And I said, "Branham."
He said, "Where you from? Here?"
And I said, "No, I'm from Jeffersonville."
He said, "Well, that's fine. Are you Pentecostal?"
I said, "No, sir, I'm not." I said, "I just don't accept the Pentecostal way of receiving the Holy
Spirit," I said, "however." I said, "I'm here to learn."
He said, "Well, that's mighty nice." And talking to him, catching his spirit (like the woman at the
well), he was a real Christian. Brother, I mean he rung out all right. He was good. Now, you all...
How many's been in my meetings and see those things happen? You see? And the man was
perfectly all right. So then, I--I thought, "There. My, how wonderful."
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185 About that evening, afternoon sometime, I met the other one. I said, "How do you do, sir?"
He said, "How do you do? What's your name?" And I told him. And he said, "Have... Are--are you a
Pentecostal?"
I said, "No, sir, not exactly Pentecostal, I don't guess." I said, "I'm just up here to learn."
He said, "You ever got the Holy Ghost?"
I said, "I--I don't know." I said, "According to what you all got, I guess I haven't."
And he said, "Ever spoke in tongues?"
I said, "No, sir."
He said, "Then you haven't had It."
And I said, "Well, I--I guess that's right." I said, "I don't know. I just been preaching about two
years, less," and I said, "I don't know too much about It." I said, "Maybe I don't know." I said, "I
can't understand..." 'Cause what, I was trying to hold him there (See?), to catch it. And when I did, if
I ever met a hypocrite, there was one of them. His wife was black-headed; and he was living with a
blond-headed woman, had two children by her, and speaking in tongues, interpreting it just as
perfect as it could be. And I said, "Now, Lord, what have I got into?" From angels, I didn't know
what I was into. I said, "I--I--I'm fundamental; it's got to be the Bible. It's got to be right. There's
something wrong somewhere, Lord. How could that be?"
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187 I went to meeting that night, and that Spirit would fall; and brother, you could feel it. And It
was the Holy Spirit. Yes, sir. If It wasn't, It bore record with my spirit that It was the Holy Spirit.
And I was just a young preacher, and didn't know much about a discernment of spirit. But I was
setting there. And I know the very God that saved me, that was the same feeling... Felt like I was
going through the roof, it was such a wonderful feeling in that building. And I thought...
About fifteen hundred of them there, and I thought, "My, oh my." Two or three bunches of them had
met together. And I thought, "Say, my. How can it be? Now, that great Spirit in this building falling
like that; and here, look at this going on up there: them guys speaking in tongues, interpreting,
giving message perfectly, and one of them a hypocrite and the other one a real man of God." And I
thought, "Now, I'm all confused. I don't know what to do."
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189 Well, immediately after it, a good friend of mine, Brother Davis (you know), started saying I
was a puppet. That's a girl's toy, you know. And so... I was single. And so I... He started carrying on
with me, and then going on, kinda joshing with me.
And we was having a little... And your mother and all of us was having meetings around different
places. The Tabernacle wasn't--wasn't going at that time, and we were having little meetings
different places. And finally one day, after the Tabernacle had been built, many years later, I went
up to Green's Mill to my cave to pray, because Brother Davis had said some horrible things about
me in his paper. I loved him. I didn't want nothing to happen, and I--I went up there to pray for him.
And I went up there, and I got in the cave. And I stayed in there about two days. And I said, "Lord,
forgive him. He--he don't mean--mean that." And I thought, "You know..." I just happened to think
of a Scripture.
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191 And I went out. And there was a log (That log's still laying there, was on it here not long ago.)
down off the mountain and lays across a little path that comes around from the creek. And I just
straddled the log, looked across the mountains way back, back there, and laid my Bible out like that.
I thought, "You know..." I was thinking of a Scripture: "The coppersmith, he has done me much
harm, and said things." You know... I thought, "I believe I'll just read that." I opened up the Bible,
and I said, "Well..." Wiped my face off, and the wind blowed, and it turned it over to Hebrews 6.
"Well," I said, "that's not where it's at." And I laid It back like this. And the wind blowed again and
turned It back again. And I said, "Now, that's strange, the wind blowing it back like that." So I
thought, "Well, I believe I'll read it." And said:
For it is impossible for those which were once enlightened,... made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and
tasted the... Word of God, and the thing of the world to come.
I thought, "Well, I don't see nothing with that." Read it on down, the rest the chapter. Nothing in it. I
said, "Well, that's--that settles that for that." And I--I saw it like this, and back it went again. And I
picked It up, and I thought, "Well, what is that?" I kept reading it, and reading it, and reading it, I
said, "Well, I can't understand." Then I kept... And I read on down:
... is impossible for those which are once enlightened,... It come on down here to a place here where
it said:
And the earth... drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, to bring forth herbs meats to them by
whom it is dressed, receiveth blessings from God:
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and... nigh unto cursing; whose judgment is to
be burned.
I said, "Wonder what that means?"
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192 I'd just... Now, I wasn't thinking about nothing up there. Just think then... And just then as I was
setting there, I thought the Lord would give me a vision about Brother Davis and them down there.
And I was setting there; I looked, and I seen something turning out across the hollow in front of me.
And it was a world turning. And I seen it was all broke up, just looked like it was all plowed over.
And a Man went forth with a--a--a great big thing in front of Him full of seed, and He was casting
the seed all the way across the earth as He went. And He went around the curvature of the earth, and
He went out of my sight. And as soon as He went out of my sight, here come a man real sneaky-
looking, dressed in black garments, going around like this, going [Brother Branham makes sounds
to illustrate--Ed.] throwing bad seeds [Brother Branham repeats the sounds--Ed.]. And I watched it,
and as the earth kept turning around...
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193 After while wheat come up. And when the wheat come up, out of there come briers, and
thistles, and thorns, and stink weed, and everything growing up, milk weeds, and everything
growing up in the wheat. And they was all growing together. And there come a real bad drought,
and the little wheat had its head over like that, and the little brier, and thistle, thorns, they had their
head over. Each weed just [Brother Branham makes a panting sound--Ed.] breathing like that. You
could just hear them. And they were calling for rain, rain.
And after while, along come a great big cloud, and the water just gushed down. And when it fell
upon there, that wheat jumped up and begin to holler, "Glory. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord." Up
jumped the little stink weed and hollered, "Glory. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah." The thorns and all of
them, dancing all around over the field hollered, "Glory. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord."
Well, I said, "I can't get that."
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195 The vision left me; then I fell back on that again: "The briers which is nigh unto rejection..."
Then I got it. The... Jesus said, "The rain falls on the just and the unjust." A man can set in the
meeting, can speak with tongues, can shout and act just like the rest of them with the genuine Holy
Ghost and still not be in the Kingdom of God. That's exactly right. Didn't Jesus say, "Many will
stand in that day and say, 'Lord, have not I cast out devils in Your Name; have not I prophesied
(preached) in Your Name; have not I done many mighty works in Your Name?'"
Jesus said, "Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity; I never even knew you." How about that?
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196 Here's exactly what it means here. See? They tasted the good rain from heaven. But to begin
with, they were wrong. To begin with their objectives wasn't right; their motives wasn't right. That...
You can't tell the... You know, in the harvest he said, "Shall I go forth and pull all them out?"
He said, "Let them grow together, and at that day these thorns and thistles will be burned together,
and the wheat will go to the garner." Now, how you going to know which is a thorn, or which is a
thistle, or which is a wheat? "By their fruit you shall know them." YOU SEE, BROTHER, SISTER,
A GOOD TREE CANNOT BRING FORTH BAD FRUIT. No matter, somewhere along the road,
it's going to catch up with you, So you in seeking the baptism of the Holy Ghost... I'm glad ever
who wrote that. See?
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198 NOW, THEM BORDERLINE BELIEVERS BACK THERE, THEY WAS RIGHT WITH
THEM. THEY WERE CIRCUMCISED WITH THEIR CIRCUMCISION. THEY WENT RIGHT
OVER TO THE LAND THAT GOD PROMISED, RIGHT TO THE EDGE OF IT. A MANY A
MAN WALKS UP TO THAT EDGE. HE'LL WALK RIGHT UP TO THE BAPTISM OF THE
HOLY GHOST AND REJECT IT. HE DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP. HE'LL WALK RIGHT UP
TO THE SCRIPTURE BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AND TURN HIS BACK,
AND REJECT IT TO KEEP FROM SEEING IT.
There's not one Scripture in all the Bible where anybody was ever baptized in the name of Father,
Son, Holy Ghost, not one Scripture. The Catholic church started it, come out in Luther, down in
Wesley, and has pulled on through to here. That's exactly right. BUT THE SCRIPTURAL ORDER
IS THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. THAT'S APOSTOLIC BAPTISM. YOU CAN'T
DO THAT AND STAY IN A DENOMINATION. THAT'S RIGHT.
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200 Now, you see those things? The baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, the things that
God brings forth... The fruit of the Spirit is love, and joy, long-suffering (Oh, you say, "But Brother
Branham, bless God, I'm long-suffering." It seem like it. I went up to Ohio here not long ago, and
somebody ask me--wrote a letter down here and asked me if I baptized people in the Name of Jesus
Christ. I never said a word. They found it out anyhow, and sixteen cooperating ministers pulled
away. That's long-suffering isn't it.)--long-suffering, goodness, meekness, gentleness, patience, and
the Holy Ghost. See?
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201 Oh, brother, sister, we're--we're at Kadesh-barnea. You're tasting now. Last night the Holy Spirit
fell upon us. Come in us--in like a rushing wind. It settled upon many of you. Today ministers have
been visiting homes here and there, laying on hands and praying for them that's seeking the Holy
Ghost. DON'T YOU TAKE A SUBSTITUTE. DON'T YOU TAKE SOME KIND OF A NOISE.
DON'T YOU TAKE SOME KIND OF A SENSATION. YOU WAIT THERE UNTIL GOD HAS
MOLDED YOU AND MADE YOU A NEW CREATURE, MADE YOU A NEW PERSON. You're
tasting It now, just tasting It, but let the Dove lead you right to the table, and--and the Lamb and
Dove set down together, and feast forevermore upon the Word of God. For It will stand when there's
no heaven or earth; the Word of God will remain. That is true.
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202 Please don't think that I'm radical. If I have been, I didn't mean to be. If I... I hope I've answered
these questions; I have, the best of my knowledge.
And therefore, in Hebrews 6, if you'll see, Paul's talking to Hebrews that said, "Well, we'll go along
with you so far." They'll come up. You see? Said, "Now, you've..." Them that comes up and has
tasted...
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204 I just happened to look back in the building. To show you the evidence of a living God. I hope I
don't make this person's conspicuous. I come in from a meeting not long ago, and come here, and
announced to you that a good friend, a personal buddy of mine, a hunting partner, a man had been
good to me, a man that had been to my church, and had been my brother; I called him Busty. Name
was Everett Rodgers, lived in Milltown... How many remember me coming here to announce it? He
was laying here in the hospital; the doctors operated on him, opened him up, and so full of cancer
they just sewed him up. Said, "He'll dwindle right away; in a few weeks he'll be gone; that'll be all
there'll be to it. He'll be finished, that's all."
You remember how I stood here on the platform, prayed for him? Went down there and went into
the room, something eating in my heart. I walked into the room, and as soon as I got everybody out
so I could... Brother Everett was laying there. And you'll remember this. I walked in; I said,
"Brother--Brother Busty." (I called him Busty.)
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206 Long ago when we was having brush arbor meetings down there, all them Methodists back
over there on the hill (Gertie, one of them), slipping around, was peeping through the grape arbor to
see what I was going to say, and like that, afraid that the Methodist church would excommunicate
them. And then I went and had a vision there, and I seen meat all piled up in a can. I caught a bunch
of fish and strung them on, put--put them upon these stringers, and I tied the stringers up. And when
I looked... And it was all in a vision; I'd left--left a bunch of people standing under the brush arbor
that night and went up on top of the hill at Brother Wright's. And they couldn't even find me the
next morning. I said, "Don't none of you..."
While I was standing there preaching, here come that Light; that Pillar of Fire hung right here
before me and says, "Leave here and go to the woods; I'll talk to you." It was that same day, the next
day when they found me up on the hill. And I'd been up there; I hid my car in the weeds, and had
been up on a mountain praying all night and all the next day. Some of them come up there, found
the car and come up there... That was the day that Brother Graham Snelling, here, received the Holy
Ghost and the call into the ministry.
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208 Up there on the hillside were I'd been laying there, and He--He told me different things to do
and what the communication we'd had together. He give a vision of seeing these fish strung up,
said, "This is your Milltown church."
And four or five of them flopped off; and I said, "Who's that?"
Said, "One of them is Guy Spencer and his wife. The other one is another Spencer there, and
theirs." And told the different ones, what would flop off.
I told them; I said, "Don't none of you eat." My wife and I wasn't... It was before we was married;
and she went home to stay all night with Sister Spencer, a wonderful woman. Wonderful man, Guy
Spencer is just as nice a man as stood in shoe leather. And he--and he went down there, and Opal
said, "Now, look..." To Meda, she said, "Now, Meda, I believe Brother Bill." She said, "But when
Opal gets hungry, she has to have ham and eggs." So she goes over there, and fries her ham and
eggs, and sets down to eat them, and starts to say the blessing, and leaned over the table, crying,
couldn't touch it. Then they come hunting.
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210 And up there on the hill that day, He told me exactly what would happen. He said, "These will
leave, and then these will leave." But He had a big bunch of canned-up meat. He said, "Keep this
for farther use for the Milltown people." And the other night when I heard Brother Creech... He was
setting here last night. I don't... Brother Creech, are you in tonight? When Brother Creech come to
me, called me up, and Sister Creech, crying; her daddy was laying there... Said, "Brother Bill, don't
tell him. He's dying." Said, "He's eat up with cancer; the doctors opened him up, and he's just as full
of cancer as he can be." And Will Hall (and all of you remember him), when the same doctor
opened him and he was so full of cancer... I started to go squirrel hunting that morning, and I seen
them apples hanging in the room. (You remember that story of it?) And there the man's a-living
today. That's been years ago. He and Brother Busty were friends.
And I went down to the hospital, the new hospital (I forget what they call it out there in New
Albany)--the new hospital. And I went out there to see Busty; and when I went in the room, I said,
"Brother Busty."
He said, "Brother Bill." Gripped my hand with that big old handshake; a veteran of the First World
War, not saying it in his presence, but just as fine a heart as ever beat under an old blue shirt. He got
a hold my hand. I've been in his house, eat in his house, slept in his house, just like I was his
brother. His kids and all, we're just--just blood brothers like: fine man.
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212 And he... But he never did come on with the Lord deep. He... I baptized him in the Name of
Jesus Christ. But that day when that Methodist preacher said, "Anybody that's baptized in the Name
of Jesus Christ, get out from under my tent." That was okay. George Wright and them walked out.
That afternoon I went down there to baptize in the Name of Jesus Christ at Totten's Ford. His whole
congregation walked in the water and was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. So I just went on.
That was all right. God be for you, who can be against you? I don't even know where the man went,
what happened to him.
However, I walked in the hospital. There was Busty laying there so full of cancer, the doctors
wouldn't even--didn't do nothing but just clamp him back together. Busty said to me; he said,
"Brother Bill, this is for a purpose. Something happened."
I said, "Yes, Busty." Begin to feel that Spirit like that rushing wind I been talking about, you know,
coming in. He said... When I walked in here, there was a rainbow in that corner, standing in that
corner. A rainbow is a covenant; God's covenant. God made a covenant with me on that mountain
that day. Put my hands over on Brother Busty and prayed for him.
The doctors says, "He'll dwindle away. He'll just go down. There's nothing to him... He'll be gone
just in a few days." And Busty Rodgers... That's been weeks and weeks and weeks ago, and Busty
Rodgers, setting right back here in the church tonight, healthy and stout as I ever seen him look in
my life. Stand up, Brother Busty. There he is. Let's give God praise, everybody.’
WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HEBREWS 6:4 AND 6, AND ALSO EXPLAIN HEBREWS
10:26-39? PLEASE EXPLAIN WHETHER THIS REFERS TO THE HOLY GHOST PEOPLE OR
THE SANCTIFIED PEOPLE; PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE.
Well, let's see where the person's referring to, Hebrews 6 and 4. I love Bible questions that just--it
pulls out something in you that you get--you get something that you wouldn't get otherwise.
Because you--you got what the other people's thinking, what's on their heart (See?), and you know
what they're doing.
Now, there's Hebrews 10, and here's Hebrews 6 and 4. All right.
For it is impossible for those that were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and
were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
And have tasted of the... word of God, and the power of the world to come,
If they shall fall away, to renew themselves again to repentance; seeing that they crucify to
themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Now, that's one. Now, Hebrews 10:26. All right, Hebrews 10 and 26.
For if we sin wilfully after... we... receive the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more
sacrifice for sin,
But a certain fearful looking for the judgment... the fiery indignation, which shall devour the
adversary.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
... how much more sore punishment, suppose ye, shall he be worthy--though worthy, who has trod
the--under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was
sanctified, an unholy thing, and... done despite to the works of grace?
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« 60 † They are both about the same thing. Now, I would like to explain this to the--the person.
Now, if you notice here in Hebrews 6 and 4, it said, "It is impossible for those that were once
enlightened"... That--that's associates with this other Scripture that's just read. If you have been
enlightened and then turn away from your enlightenment, it is impossible for that person to ever
regain his place again. See?
Now, Hebrews only tells the punishment that follows this rejection. It's one of the horriblest things
in the world is to reject Christ, is to reject Light of the Scripture.
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« 62 † Now, you notice, "For it is impossible for those which were once enlightened and has been
made partakers of the Holy Spirit, if they turn away to renew themselves again unto repentance..."
See? Here we are. "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted
(Watch.), tasted the heavenly gift..." They been right on the edge of it: "tasted the heavenly gifts..."
Now, you notice they never had come to the baptism of the Holy Spirit. See? They was enlightened
to it: "And tasted of the heavenly gift (See?), but were made partakers of the Holy Ghost (by tasting
of it), and have tasted of the good Word of God, (part of it; See?) and powers of the world to come,
if they shall fall away, to renew themselves..."
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« 64 † Now, Hebrews 10 here only gives the judgment for that. "He that despised Moses' law died
without mercy under two or three witnesses. How much sorer punishment, though worthy, who has
trod the Blood of Jesus Christ and counted it a unclean thing that they were sanctified by."
Now, to put these two together to make the question for you, let's take a Scripture and a person in
the Bible that did this, and then we can find...
Now, all the church today is the antitype of the type, We know that. There's a type and a antitype.
Now, when Israel was on their journey from the land of Palestine--from Egypt going into Palestine,
was a type of the church in the spiritual today on it's journey to the promised land... You all agree
with that, don't you? All the theologians agree with that, that that was the type.
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« 67 † They left Egypt. Egypt was the world. They come out, went through the waters of separation
at the Red Sea through baptism, come out on the other side rejoicing and praising God, went to the--
got the laws, and from there on to the promised land.
Well, did you notice just before they got to the promised land (See?), before they were to enter into
the promised land, which would only been just a few days, ten or eleven days, maybe not that much,
'cause it was only forty-something miles. They would've went right on into the promised land;
they'd come right up through the--the year--the every--every stage of the journey that we've walked.
And they come over, crossed over the Red Sea; Pharaoh's army was drowned behind them. They
were free from their enemies, started through the wilderness, and got to the edge of the promised
land at Kadesh-Barnea, and there they failed. Why? Why did they fail?
Now, Moses said to the ten tribes; he said, "He'll send a man out of each tribe to represent each
tribe, to go spy out on the land to see what kind of a condition it was."
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« 69 † Now, if that isn't exactly up to the--your place this morning, where you come. Today you--the
church has come through justification through Luther, through sanctification through the Methodist,
and now up to the time of the promise. The promise is the baptism of the Spirit, which is promised
all through the Old Testament and New too (See?), the promise: "Behold, I send the promise of My
Father upon you..." Peter said that on the day of Pentecost.
That is the Promise. The promised land is to live in this land of Holy Spirit. That's God's promise
for the church, is to live in the power of the Spirit. It's another world; it's another land. You have to
come out of the conditions that you been in, to come out to live in this promised land, to receive the
promise. Remember the promise, "You shall receive power from on high, after this, the Holy Ghost
is come upon you..."?
And Peter said that the promise that was made all down through the Testament, Old and New... You-
-you find promising on up, on up to that day of the Pentecost, and then they entered into the
promise.
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« 72 † Now, those people had come out and had seen great signs and wonders in Israel. And then he
sent some men out to spy out, one out of each tribe. And some of them come back to... Well, some
of them wouldn't go over. Two went over. When they come back, they had a bunch of grapes that
taken two men to pack. Now, they had never tasted grapes. They was in--they were in the
wilderness; and therefore, in that place was no place of fruit and stuff. They was fed from manna,
bread from heaven, and quails, and wildlife and what they was fed on.
But now they were going over into the land, and they had a bunch of grapes that was so big that
took two men to pack these grapes. And these two went over into the land and had come back and
give every one of them others on the bank a taste of these grapes. What did they do?
When they went back, instead of rejoicing because they had a taste of the grapes, instead of that,
they went back to their tribes and said, "Oh, but we have seen the great walled-in cities of the
Philistines, or the Hittites, and the Perizzites," and the--they--and all the different 'ites' over there.
"Why," said, "they are giants. Why, we look like little grasshoppers up the side of them. We can't
take that land. Why did you ever bring us out here anyhow?" See? And the Bible said that they all
perished in the wilderness, every one of them; they died. What did they do? They were borderline
believers. They come up to the real thing, and saw the promise, and felt that they wasn't able to go
over and take the promise.
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« 74 † Now, that's exactly what's come today through justification and sanctification. See? "Has
trod the Blood of Jesus Christ wherewith he was sanctified..." it is the sanctified people that come
up to a place where they see the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and they turn away and say, "It's
fanaticism; we cannot take it. We'll be turned out of our classes; we'll be turned out of our places.
We'll be turned out of our churches. We cannot do that (See?), because it's contrary to our church
teaching." See? Has counted the Blood of Jesus Christ that brought him all this distance, right to the
sealing of the promise, and then walk away from it; he said it's totally impossible for them to ever
be saved. See? Not the ones that had walked over in the promised land...
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« 75 † Remember, Joshua and Caleb was the only two out of that entire group of two and a half
million people that went over into the promised land, because they went over in the promised land,
and got the blessing, and come back. And they said, "We're able to take it, because God said so."
And there they stayed. Why? Now, all those people were looking at circumstances, but Joshua and
Caleb was looking to what God said: "I have give you that land; go get it."
And that's today; the people say, "Oh, if I be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ, if I receive the
Holy Ghost, if--if I would speak in tongues or prophesy, or if I would testify or shout in my church,
they would put me out." Go right ahead.
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« 78 † You say, "But I'll tell you right now, I live a Christian life; I live a good, clean, sanctified
life." That's true, but you've come to the showdown, come to the place, the borderline. And if you
turn away from that, then it's impossible for those who were once enlightened..." See?
In other words, a man comes through justification; he goes, says "I believe I want to preach the
Word." He gets saved; he said, "I'm tired of sin." All right. Then he goes out, and first he still
smokes, and maybe he lusts or something. After while he says, "God, this is not becoming to a
Christian, especially a minister, to look upon women in the wrong way, to smoke cigarettes," or; "I
do take a sociable drink of beer with the fellows, but--and even my congregation, but it don't seem
right. Sanctify me, Lord." And then the Lord sanctifies him, takes all that lust away from him,
everything. Then he's a sanctified vessel. Then what God presents to him is the baptism of the Holy
Ghost. To do that, he has to come out of that bunch he's with. There's where he shows his color;
then he backs down. What does he do when he backs down? He tramps the Blood of Jesus Christ
that sanctified him, as though it was an unholy thing, not able to take him over there. Then it's
impossible for him to be saved. And then what does it was? But on to the fiery indignation and the
judgment.
I hope that's clear. If it isn't, why, you let me know at another time.

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