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The goldish color on the valves is varnish, which you will likely also find
on all surfaces of the tank, piping, valves and the sight glasses. We never share, rent
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We recently we went through the same problem. Our lab reports were
all normal and the only indication of a problem was the oil’s dark color
and a change in its smell.
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We found that the problem was due to thermal stressing of the oil, as
opposed to straight oxidation. After an investigation we discovered that
a valve had failed on a subsystem, forcing oil through a small orifice,
causing it to over heat. Because it was a small localized hot spot in a
large tank and oil cooler, the high temperature was never detected as a
rise in bulk oil temperature. Our first indication of a problem was the
change in the oil’s color.
The cause of thermal degradation is heat. Two of the most common How to Reduce Motor
sources of extreme temperatures in a hydraulic system are; a hot spot Bearing Failures
caused from an external heat source in close proximity to the lube Modifying your lubrication
system, or the implosion of entrained bubbles as the bubbles flow from
the reservoir into higher pressure zones like the pumps or valves.
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I would do three things to address this problem before performance
In regards to the darkening hydraulic fluid it seems like there has been
excesive heat build up and the darkening of oil is the result of fine
carbon silt in the oil. I would send a sample out for a RBOT test and
view the results for oxidation stability and thermal failure. Using the
results of the RBOT test would give me the justification to change the
hydraulic oil or not.
Butch Shaw, CBM Coordinator, Millar Western Forest Products
I would verify that the system had been filled to the proper level, since
over- or underfilling can cause aeration. I would drain the system and
inspect the pump, internal seals, etc., for any sources of leaks that
might cause aeration. I would then refill the system, taking care to fill to
the correct level. To the extent possible, I would observe temperature
readings throughout the system to monitor potential localized hot spots.
I would continue to monitor and inspect until the root cause of aeration
is identified and corrected.
David Krause, Commercial/Industrial Sales Manager, Parman Lubricants
Corporation
I think that the darker color of the hydraulic oil and the goldish color of
the valves indicates varnish accumulation originating from thermal oil
degradation. Oxidative oil degradation does not appear to have taken
place yet due to the satisfactory results of the FTIR-Ox test. All oil
should be drained from the system including the reservoir. The oil
reservoir should be cleaned by confined-space tank cleaning. Filter the
oil back into the reservoir through a high density sieve absorption filter
and an electrostatic oil cleaner. Richard Hill, Mechanical Engineering
Tech, Norfolk Naval Shipyard
There is no problem. The oil will change color with age and the staining
is from the oils color at this time. What was the particle count reading?
What type of valve and its material structure? How long has the fluid
been in the system? Did the fluid color change overnight? These are
questions that also need to be answered. Scott Golomb, Maint Tech.
Lubes and Vibes, Northampton Generating
Any time oil is used, the color will gradually darken slightly. If the oil
properties all appear within the normal ranges, I would smell the oil and
check the temperature gauges. If the operating temperatures exceed
140 degrees f. the cooling fan may not be working to its capacity. Larry
Young, Maintenance Planner, Florida's Natural Growers
Given the background of the problem with varnishing on the valves but
no other oil degradation evident, I would review the infrared spectrum
for indication of nitration in the oil. If the spectrum has spikes in the
1600-1700 wavenumbers (cm-1) region then the oil has probably been
exposed to either micro-dieseling or an extremely hot spot within the
equipment. The root cause of the problem could be pumping aerated oil
or the oil being exposed to an external or an internal heating source
over 400 degrees F. Brian Knoke, Engineer, BCHydro
Recently we went through the same problem. Lab reports were all
normal the only indication of a problem was the dark color and the smell
of the oil had changed. The goldish color on you valves is varnish, which
you will find on all surfaces of the tank, piping, valves and the sight
glasses.
This process will also increase the resistivity of the fluid and keep the
TAN at or below .1. Randy Norton, Plant Maintenance Optimization
Coordinator, Tucson Electric Power Company
ultracentrifuge, blotter spot test, FTIR for nitration). Check test results
indications of additive depletion. Check for increases in specific gravity.
Look for grease like suspensions or sludge formation in the oil.
3. Inspect the hydraulic system. Look for low reservoir levels, plunging
returns or long vertical drops into the reservoir. Use ultrasound to
identify any suction leaks in the system. Use infrared to find operating
temperatures of all components of the system.
The valves are acting sort of like a filter, and if they're not sticking yet it
will only be a matter of time before they start. If I was not having any
machine problems from this like sticking valves I would just change the
oil and filters. If I was having machine problems like sticking valves I
would run a flushing agent through the system for approx. 24 hours to
dissolve the deposits.
Next, I would try to determine the cause of the problem. If the oil had
been in the system for awhile then it could just be time for an oil
change. If the oil had been in for a short time I would start looking for
hot spots in the system like snub valves on pressure gages stuck open
or oil coolers not functioning / dirty etc. It could also be that the oil type
being used is not of a high enough quality to meet the performance
requirements of the equipment. Clifford Robinaugh, Engineering
Coordinator, Honda of America Mfg.
Check pump suction lines, turbulence in the tank and other ways that air
might become introduced into the system. Regardless of the cause of
the varnish, a good preventative measure would be to install an
electrostatic separator.
This will remove the varnish particles before they can build up on the
valves and create sluggish response and other performance problems.
The result will be a reliable system and the oil life will be extended.
Robert Niehoff, Supervisor, Plant Services, Iowa State University