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While We Were Yet Sinners.

Watchman Dean
Dean(c)2018.

Romans 5:
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us.

What does this mean?

The meaning seems clear enough on the surface, however when we dig a bit
deeper, not so much. Too many of us (including myself at times) have mistakenly
thought this to mean that Christ no longer cares if we sin or not. I know, it's hard
to believe this is true, but how else do you explain our continual almost daily (and
in some cases daily) sins? The truth is hard to face but we must think it doesn't
matter to Christ if we are sinning or not because we just keep doing it.

This is where it gets difficult.

There are religious doctrines out there which state flatly "you are never going to
stop sinning, not in this body of yours, because it is cursed with a sin curse from
Adam." There are others who preach it this way, "even if you stopped sinning
today and never sinned for the rest of your life you are still a sinner because of
Adam's sin." Thus, they claim Adam's sin is "imputed" to us. We are counted as
sinners because of what Adam did.

Both of these teachings are the most dangerous doctrines out there.

The first one, "you are never going to stop sinning..." will inevitably cause you to
cease trying to stop sinning. Your heart will not be in the arduous task of battling
sin because you have convinced yourself the struggle is futile while yet in this
cursed body. What you are actually doing at this point is blaming your body and
God for your sins (the way Adam blamed Eve and God for his sin), and you
destroy free will. Why do I say you are blaming God? Because God made your
body. God made Adam's body and if sin is the result of a "sin curse" then Adam
would have to have been created with this sin curse.

I will repeat that.

If Adam sinned, and sin is an inevitable biproduct of living in flesh, then indeed
Adam's flesh was sinful from the start. (How else do you explain his sin)?
That is why I say believing that doctrine destroys your free will and makes you
forever a "captive" to sin as long as you are in this body. All you have done at
this point is destroy free will as well.

John 8:
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth
sin is the servant of sin.

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye
are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto
righteousness?

People who preach this actually quote Romans 7:14 where he says, (speaking of
his former self under the law and without grace) "I am carnal, sold under sin."
They think Paul is stating that he has remained a captive to sin as long as he is
in this Adamic cursed body. We know Paul is not describing his current "spiritual
in Christ" state because he opens the teaching in Romans saying "when we were
in the flesh." (Romans 7:5) Then in Romans 8 he says we are "no longer in the
flesh."

Romans 8:
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell
in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Paul has made it clear that if you are "still in the flesh" and still "sold under sin"
(like he said of those who are still in the flesh in Romans 7) then you are "none of
Christs." If you are of "the Spirit" you are no longer in the flesh and Romans 7
verses 6 through the end would no longer apply to you. They are describing
someone who has not the Spirit of Christ.

I grew up in this doctrine that says you remain "carnal" and "in the flesh" until the
resurrection or the rapture. I'm fully aware of all the arguments for and against it.
I believed it for many many years until I discovered an argument against it that
could not be refuted. It was right there plain as the nose on my face but I couldn't
see it, because, frankly, it meant I would be obliged to admit that I and all who
had taught me before had made a serious error.

If we are still "sold under sin" in this body until Jesus comes and magically gives
us new bodies (either in the rapture or the resurrection) then how say the
Apostles and Christ that we are "delivered?" How say that "the ransom has been
paid?" One does not remain in captivity to one's captor after the ransom has
been paid.

It is clear from reading all of the New Testament that Christ claimed to "set us
free from sin" (not just the penalty) and to "take away our sin," (again, the sin is
taken away, not just the penalty).

At this point I butt heads with my former fellow believers who, well meaning
though they might be, begin to accuse me of claiming that I no longer have sin.
It's logical because it appears I'm claiming that when I became a believer Christ
"took away the sin completely" and that I "no longer have sin." I know this
argument, I made it many many times against those who would try to convince
me otherwise regarding the penal substitution doctrine. (The idea Christ died for
the sole purpose of paying the penalty).

The idea of theirs is; " if Christ pays the penalty then God can 'overlook' our sins,
they are 'covered by the blood.' (In the same way that God found Lamb's blood
on the door posts in Passover and then 'passed over' their house)."

The analogy, however is flawed, because it was not the "sin" God was "passing
over," on passover. The spirit of death was not coming to specifically punish
sinners (although death of all Adam's children was his wage when he gambled
and ate of the fruit). If it the angel of death came to punish sin on Passover,
then everyone in the house would have been in jeopardy, not just the first born.
When the spirit of Death hit an Egyptian's home, found no Lamb's blood, it then
would have killed every sinner in the house, because there was no Lamb's blood
to let God overlook their sins.

God never overlooks sin.

This is their flaw.

Isaiah 29: 15
Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their
works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

The teaching flaw is as follows:

"...on the first Passover, the Spirit of Death came into everyone's house that did
not have the Lamb's blood and overlooked everyone's sins in that house except
the firstborn, and it even killed the cattle's firstborn, who cannot sin. "

The animals died as well and they aren't sinners at all for they cannot
comprehend law.

Romans 5: 13
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no
law.

Cattle and sheep don't have sins to overlook, yet the Spirit of Death killed them
without the blood of the Lamb.

Cattle and sheep cannot know to put Lamb's blood on their door posts to prevent
death from coming and taking them, nevertheless, they were killed if they did not
have it. For that matter, Egyptians wouldn't know to put Lamb's blood on their
door posts. (To let them know the secret would have destroyed the
demonstration of God's power, by allowing them to also avoid death with Lamb's
blood).

In fact, if God had wanted to make the point that some day Lamb's blood would
be the secret to having your sins hidden, he would have made sure the
Egyptians knew about the Lamb's blood on the door post. Then, the Spirit of
Death would have killed everyone else in the houses that have not blood (not just
the firstborn). That would have been the only effective way to communicate that
the Lamb's blood causes God to "overlook sin."

The idea that the Lamb's blood was a type and figure of how God overlooks sin
when he sees you covered with the blood is not supported in the text of scripture
regarding Passover, and it is not supported by common sense nor logic.

Once I realized the true purpose of the Lamb's blood it changed me forever.

God was not punishing sinners in Egypt. (Although sinners were punished- and
the wages of sin is death- but so were those who were without sin, such as cattle
and babies). It was not for their sins the firstborn were dying, but solely because
they were firstborn and that was God's decree. People and animals died that
were completely innocent. Babies died. The sin, not letting God's people go,
was Pharaoh's sin, and to say that the people who died that night died because
of their sins (and because God could still see their sins without the Lamb's blood
on their door posts) is to say that God punished all those who died in Egypt for
Pharaoh's sin.
Are you comfortable with that?

I am not.

What kind of God punishes some innocent someone else for my sin?

Most mobsters don't even do such things. If you anger the mob, do they send
someone to punish you by killing your sister who's not even in the mob (or your
firstborn)? Perhaps some do, but most gangs have a code and wouldn't do
that. (There are some who do).

To say that God punished all of Egypt's firstborn, man, woman, child, and even
innocent critter for sin that night could only be true if everyone in the house that
had no Lamb's blood died. Clearly the Lamb's blood was not about "covering up
sin."

The Lamb's blood was all about "setting the captives free."

This was the only way, God knew, that Pharaoh would finally let his people go.
Then, God also knew, Pharaoh would only be letting them go, so he could slay
them outside the city. (So there wouldn't be tens of thousands of more dead
bodies to clean up).

When they fled Egypt that night, Pharaoh mustered his forces and pursued them.
However, God was ready for that and protected them all the way to the Red Sea,
then parted the sea, held Pharaoh back, let the Israelites cross, then when
Pharaoh tried to pursue across the Gulf, the waters collapsed, and Pharaoh and
his armies were killed.

There is no doubt that the Passover Lamb's blood is not about "covering up sin"
(nor is it about atoning for sin, there is no passover lamb in the atonement ritual,
only bulls and goats).

You can show me scriptures that say Christ "made atonement" but it
demonstrates you aren't getting it. Animals who die for atonement do not "make
atonement" for you. The Priest makes the atonement for you using the sacrifice's
blood.

Christ sacrificed himself as "the Passover Lamb" and then, after he was
resurrected, he ascended to the Father and sprinkled his own fresh Passover
Lamb blood on the mercy seat, obtaining "propitiation" for all mankind.

He is not the beast in the atonement process he is the High Priest.

Hebrews 9:
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and
more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in
once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the
unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit
offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to
serve the living God?

Animal's cannot take away sins. Only an High Priest can do that.

Hebrews 10:
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

In the same way if Christ were the "sin offering" in the atonement process, he
could not "take away our sins" being that he would be standing for the ram or the
bull, and the blood of rams and bulls cannot take away sin.

Only the blood of the Passover lamb can set you free from the captivity of sin and
thereby "take away your sins." Again, I will butt heads with those same people
who will insist I'm claiming that I no longer "have sin" now that I am a believer,
because I say that sin was "taken away" by Christ. I can see why they make this
mistake and it's tragic because it means they aren't understanding the Gospel at
all.

Our sins are not magically "taken away" when we believe. Neither are they
"magically hidden" from God's sight so that he can "overlook sin." God is Holy,
he sees all, and he does not miss it when we sin.

Christ is our "advocate" with the Father, because he made a propitiation for us by
sprinking his own Lamb's blood on the mercy seat. God gives us MERCY. He
gives us GRACE when we sin because Christ in us assures him that we will stop!
Christ in us assures the Father that he will send the paraclete, to lead us and
guide us and that we will thankfully and joyfully begin to resist the devil and make
no more provision for our fleshly lusts.

Romans 13:
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to
fulfil the lusts thereof.

God now sees the "Christ" (Son of God) potential in us, because when we
believe we change our heart, and it is now our intent to follow the example of
Christ and to learn to love as Christ loved.

It is this intent of the heart that ultimately grants us grace and saves us.

But intent has to be real. (Hence it's called intent of the heart). Both God and his
Son can see your heart. They know if you truly want to stop sinning, or if you
don't believe such a thing is even possible and instead expect to keep sinning the
rest of your days, and you're "good with that."

If you are in the latter camp when Christ arrives, you are cast out.

You can't play games with God.

Matthew 24:
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the
drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and
in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites:
there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

If you have decided that you are not going to pursue righteousness, holiness,
obedience, because you are only a man and because Jesus was God (and you
can't be like Jesus because he is God), you have fallen from the faith. I've met
many many tragic people like this. They will even caution me that I "can't be like
Jesus because he's God." They will add to that the claim that I can't be like
Jesus because Jesus was born without the Adamic sin curse and I wasn't. They
will add to this claim that even if I stop sinning today, God still sees me as a
sinner. Thus, they say, you need the blood of the Lamb to hide your Adamic
nature from God so that he no longer "sees you as a sinner."

Wow!

My head spins on that one.

As if God is going to forget that I am a son of Adam?

If God considers me a sinner because I am a son of Adam in the flesh there goes
their claim that God doesn't "see my sin" anymore. How not? Has he brain
damage and has somehow forgotten that I am an Bad Ole Boy Adam Boy?

Their teaching self contradicts. If God sees me as a sinner because of Adams


sin (no matter how righteously I live and even if I don't sin like Adam did) then
there is nothing that is going to hide my sin from God, except my becoming
something I am not, no longer being a descendant of Adam in the flesh, like a
"new creature" who no longer has Adam's curse in me.

Wait!

Didn't I read that somewhere?

2 Corinthians 5: 17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed
away; behold, all things are become new.

So, while some try to say we are still "carnal" and sold under sin and still under
the Adamic curse, the Apostles disagreed and taught that you are not a "child of
Adam" anymore and no longer that same old sin cursed creature. That creature
has died. Now the new man, which is you "in Christ" and Christ "in you," is taking
over.

If any man be IN CHRIST he is a new creature.

What does it mean to be "in Christ?" It means to abide in him. To seek to walk,
even so as he walked, (sinless and perfect in all obedience even unto the death).

You might think that you are "in Christ" because your sins are "covered by his
blood" but I have news for you all. The blood of the Lamb is not a "cloak" for sin,
it exposes it all the more.
John 15: 22
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they
have no cloak for their sin.

When Christ the Word of God comes into your life and begins to speak with you,
your sins are immediately exposed and you have no cloak for them. You don't try
to hide them by pleading that Christ magically "paid" for them and "hid them"
from God's sight. What you do is immediately confess your sins and then turn
away from them. Then you get "clean" of them.

This doesn't happen overnight, this is a progressive attainment.

Philippians 3
12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow
after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ
Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do,
forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things
which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

We press to the High calling, which is sinless perfection.

"He that endureth to the end the same shall be saved."

Romans 5:
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his
Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

We shall be (future tense) saved. (As long as we remain rooted and grounded).

Colossians 1: 23
If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the
hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every
creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

This is the message of the Apostles.

We run and we fall, then we run again then we fall, but we never give up the
hope that we can reach the finish line and grab that prize, eternal life, through
dying of self and mortifying the deeds of the body.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the
deeds of the body, ye shall live.

If we sin,we have an advocate. We have mercy.

BUT ONLY IF WE CONTINUE TO RUN!

ONLY IF WE ENDURE TO THE END.

We will reach our finish line one way or the other. We will either die trying to not
sin,or we will arrive at the finish line while still alive to hear the trumpet sound and
Christ coming to retrieve us to where he is.

If we die trying we shall be resurrected with our intent to quit sinning still alive
and well and continue our race, only to find we are at the finish line. Our intent to
get this prize through running the good race does not change and we will get the
prize, eternal life, because we ran for it with all our hearts and desired the love of
God above all treasures on this earth.

Don't lay down and stop running, don't stop trying to stop sinning. Don't be a
cursed child who "cannot cease from sin."

2 Peter 2: 14
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable
souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

Don't lay down, say that it's hopeless while in this sinful body and wait for Jesus
to come and give you "uncursed bodies."

If you stop running, you will return to the captivity of sin and you will die and not
be raised. If you stop running and you return to the captivity of sin, and Christ
returns and finds you so doing, you will be cast out.

There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

So what does it mean "while we were yet sinners Christ died for us?"
Well the first hint is that he speaks of us being sinners in the past tense. That is
hugely significant. He didn't say "even though we are sinners Christ died." He
said "...while we were yet sinners..." That says it all really. Sinners don't pursue
righteousness and the righteous do not pursue sin!

It means you must pursue a life without sin, as long as you do, when and if you
do sin, Christ and his Father are now merciful.

Under the Old Testament you could drive the Holy Spriit away from you just by
sinning:

Psalms 51: 11
Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Now, Christ is one with the Holy Spirit, and he has promised "I will never leave
you, nor forsake you." If you sin, Christ will be your paraclete.

Fellow children this does not mean "once saved always saved" because you
have free will and, while he will not forsake you, you could forsake him, go back
to your old life, and stop running to meet him in the air at the finish line. The New
Testament is full of warnings about those who might do this.

If you say "I'm already saved I can't lose my salvation" then you have forgotten
about the prize at the end.

Romans 8:
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man
seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

I had one person tell me "there is no High Calling in Christ," after I had just read
Philippians 3 to him. He said there was no "prize" because a prize is something
that is earned and you can't "earn your salvation."

How is he running for the prize and apprehending the High Calling in Christ if he
doesn't even believe in them? He has stopped running for the prize (because he
says he already has been handed it by the cross). If you don't keep abiding in
Christ, he won't abide in you.
I recently heard a song on Christian radio and it starts out:

"It's not that we abide in the Heart of Christ, but that he abides in our heart." (I'm
paraphrasing so as not to steal their copyright).

They have it upside down ladies and gentlemen.

For the order is "abide in me, and I in you."

John 15: 4
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it
abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Christ said that if we "abide in him" then and only then will he and the Father
make their abode in us.

John 14:
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode
with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is
not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

What does "keep" my words mean?

James 1: 22
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

You must have the intent to "keep his commandments" and to walk in love even
so as he walked, this is "abiding in him" and only then does he abide in you. If
you say "There is no prize," and then state you don't have to run because it's a
free gift that Christ gave you when he climbed off the cross, you are in PERIL!

Your very salvation is at stake.

God sees your heart, he knows if you love sin or not. He that loves sin is not
going to make it.

See you there, or in the air.


Watchman Dean

AUTHOR'S ADDENDUM: I WAS RECENTLY ASKED HOW I CAME BY THIS


REVELATION. HERE IS MY RESPONSE:

I've given this much prayer and contemplation. It was asked how I came about
this revelation. I can tell you the moment it started. It began when I questioned
the doctrine that babies die because they are born sinners. That didn't sit right
with me. In fact scripture says "where there is no law sin is not imputed."

Christians teach that Christ died to "pay the penalty" (the wages) of sin. So why
do Christians die after believing. Shouldn't they be immortal from that day
forward, being their sins are no longer imputed?

Furthermore, all we would have to do is destroy the law. Get rid of it and sin is
no longer imputed. But you cannot "unring the bell." The bell of the law has rung
and it cannot be unrung.

So, Christians say that babies die because they are sinners (even though sin is
not imputed because they as yet have no law).

Christians have a myriad of doctrinal explanations for how this makes sense
(even though it absolutely can never make sense that God considers someone a
sinner and sends death their way even though "sin is not imputed" to them,
especially when the reason Christians say they will live forever is because their
sin is no longer imputed).

What settled it for me was that the animals die. Animals have no sin. They are
without guile. Even if you could find sin in an animal, again it's not imputed for
they cannot comprehend law. They can comprehend boundaries, and rules, and
can be trained against certain behaviors, but they do not comprehend the stakes,
that there is a God who is a demanding God and who will not allow them to
continue unless they obey him. That is far beyond them.

When I took the question to the clergy the answer I received was just a man
made philosophy that, to me, sounded almost gnostic. I was told that when man
sinned the "curse" extended to all the animal kingdom. In other words, death
didn't just pass to Adam's children because of his sin but to the animals and
animals die because of Adam's sin too.

This answer was not acceptable. It can be found nowhere in scripture nor the
New Testament.
When I pressed them for the scripture proofs the response was always they
same, they ended the conversation and told me that I would understand it all
some day.

There is no scripture that says that the animals were meant to live forever and
only started dying and eating each other because of Adam's sin. It's utterly
preposterous. Any biologist will tell you that tigers and lions and other meat
eaters have always eaten meat. They will also tell you how many years it would
take for the earth to overpopulate with animals if there was no death.

It is obvious that death is a part of life in the animal kingdom. In fact, wildlife
managers count on death to keep the populations from becoming unsustainable.
Great misery befalls the animals when this happens. It's a fable and a fantasy
that the earth was somehow "corrupted with death and decay" just because of
one man's disobedience to God.

Death and decay is a part of the natural order of things. The earth was designed
with it as a integral part. Anyone who has actually studied the earth even a little
will quickly reach that conclusion.

So, either God created a new earth immediately after Adam sinned, an earth that
was completely designed differently than the one Adam lived in before, or death
existed before Adam sinned.

Consider this, if death didn't exist before Adam sinned, how could he
comprehend death?

If Adam had never seen anything die, how would he ever know what it meant
when God said "in the day you eat thereof you shall surely die?" At best he
would have said "I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound good."

This was the turning point for me on the journey to this revelation.

Death is Adam's wage for sin. Death came on all men just like it did on Adam,
when they sin. It might not get you right away, (Adam lived almost another 1000
years) but death will come to you if you are a sinner.

"The soul that sinneth it shall die." (Ezekiel 18)

Yet, Adam rolled the dice when he sinned and wagered his own life and the life of
his children. They all had immortality before then, having access to the tree of
life which could heal all manner of diseases and repair all manner of injury and
grant them to live forever. Adam gambled that for a piece of fruit and he lost, and
as a result, people die just like animals.
In Ecclesiastes it says it all:

Chapter 3:

18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might
manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. 19For
that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth
them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that
a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. 20All go unto one
place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

People die now because man no longer has access to the tree of life. It's just
how it is. Even if you stop sinning and never sin again... you are going to die
eventually. Nearly 2000 years of Christianity is our proof of this (assuming you
believe that your sins are no longer counted and are covered by the blood). You
die because you are an human being and human beings, like animals, die.

It wasn't always that way and it shall not remain that way. For there comes a day
when those who conquer their sin will be "changed" and given immortal
incorruptible bodies.

1 Corinthians 15:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be
changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall
sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall
have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus
Christ.

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always


abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not
in vain in the Lord.

Our "labor" (to cease from sin and walk as Christ) is "not in vain" for we know that
we have a prize awaiting us at the end of our life, or when the Lord returns
(whichever comes first). Is this "salvation by works?" Absolutely not, for we only
reach that prize because Christ died for us, and he died for us "while we were yet
sinners."

There's no room to brag if you become exactly like Christ, for you did so by dying
of self and letting him take over and manage your affairs. There's no danger of
this.

So those who conclude they "cannot stop sinning" or they cancel out grace are
those of which Paul spoke...

Romans 6:

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were
baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was
raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk
in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be
also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might
be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

We are free from sin, but that doesn't mean we won't die in this physical body.
(We might not die, for not all shall sleep). But one thing we know, we shall all (all
believers) be changed into immortal creatures and death will be swallowed in
sweet victory all we have to do is "labor" not in vain.
So, while it is true that people who sin will die, it is not true that if someone dies it
means he's a sinner.

That is fallacy in logic akin to saying that since people who drink poison die,
therefore everyone who dies must have drank poison.

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