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first mode is Torsional? As the RZ is 0.19 of the mass, and Can we allow Torsion in How torsion reinforcing area of steel
first mode?  will be inserted in beam ? 

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Colonel Started Friday at 04:35 AM
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3. Why you are just looking at Rz in first mode?

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First mode = Mode2 of ETABS with 54.56% mass participation in X direction. Center Engineering &
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Third mode = Mode1 of ETABS with 34.75% mp in Y direction (T=0.586s) Started January 21, 2016

Remember that ETABS lists mode based on descending order of T and not mass
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translational+rotational in a complex way all at once. The shape, geometry, Thanks .. So for the weak storey, the
configuration of shear walls etc is not regular or you are trying to model a very stiff method mentioned in earlier posts of
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and Having Two Elevators Which  are not Symetric about X Axis, Will make it thickness = 8". Column dimension (30"
symetric and then will hear from you, circular column), Beam Depth 55"x18"
(and sir did etabs includes slab
thinkness in beam during analysis ) ??
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reinforcement in beam and decrease in
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 I will just add to what Rana has said.  Deflection
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To control torsion, the best thing you could do is to have new shear walls at
Yes, you can. You can also design it for
perimeter of your building. They would add the most value interns of controlling
2500-2700 psi and specify 3000 psi.
torsion.

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Wind loads will not govern if it is RCC
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21 posts Case Mode UX UY UZ RX RY RZ
sec UX UY UZ RX RY RZ
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area(Daman-e-koh Islamabad) and it's
interpreting the table. I have the following table and cant interpret. Can anybody
just single story HALL (102' x 55'...
help what does the table say and how does it effect the design?
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Period Sum Sum Sum Sum Sum Sum
Case Mode UX UY UZ RX RY RZ By Ayesha · Posted Thursday at 04:33
sec UX UY UZ RX RY RZ
PM
Modal 1 0.719 0.3 0.1009 0 0.3 0.1009 0 0.0699 0.2062 0.2 0.0699 0.2062 0.2
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use rectangular section as it is more
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Modal 4 0.217 0.0267 0.0377 0 0.6411 0.6473 0 0.0578 0.0441 0.0252 0.4814 0.463 0.6351
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Modal 6 0.196 0.029 0.0037 0 0.7061 0.7002 0 0.0057 0.0445 0.0628 0.5623 0.5655 0.7018
at 04:29 PM
Modal 7 0.119 0.0042 0.0131 0 0.7103 0.7133 0 0.007 0.0025 0.0103 0.5693 0.5681 0.7121
@EngrUzair, @waqar saleem and @BAZ
Modal 8 0.114 0.0163 0.0097 0 0.7267 0.723 0 0.0055 0.0096 0.0007 0.5747 0.5777 0.7128
can help.
Modal 9 0.108 0.0074 0.0037 0 0.734 0.7267 0 0.0022 0.0043 0.0177 0.577 0.5819 0.7305
1.318E- 2.301E-
Modal 10 0.092 0.0046 0 0.734 0.7313 0 0.0072 0.0021 0.5842 0.582 0.7326
05 05
Modal 11 0.038 0.2543 0.0002 0 0.9883 0.7315 0 0.0004 0.3844 0.0005 0.5846 0.9663 0.7331
1.603E-
Modal 12 0.037 0.0021 0.0009 0 0.9904 0.7324 0 0.0025 0.0032 0.5871 0.9695 0.7331
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 1. Increase modes from 12 to have SumRx more than 90%.

2.

first mode is translation in x plus some torsion.

second mode is pure translation y.

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