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8 accounting firm.
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11 RESPONSIBILITIES.
18 the Firm’s Industry Professional Practice Director for the public utility
19 industry. In this role, I serve as the Firm’s lead technical accounting and
21 providing assistance to the Firm’s personnel and our public utility clients
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10 Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Rhode Island, South
13 Public Accountants (“AICPA”) and the Florida, Missouri and North Carolina
19 RM02-7 in which FERC Order 631 was issued and participated in FERC’s
21 this docket.
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24 PROCEEDING?
27 143, Accounting for Asset Retirement Obligations (“FAS 143”) and a March
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1 2005 interpretation of FAS 143, FASB Interpretation No. 47, Accounting for
4 going to discuss the original intent behind the project carried out by the
11 accounting for asset removal costs and the application of FAS 143 under
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23 standardize the way that companies measure and report accounting costs
25 intent is clearly stated in the Summary of the FAS 143 publication. FAS
26 143 was not intended to, nor does it, address regulatory accounting or
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21 concepts and uses FAS 143, which is a standard used for financial
22 accounting, and FERC Order No. 631, which is a standard for regulatory
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2 that companies with securities registered under the SEC rules utilize GAAP
6 the FASB in recent years has been on the balance sheet, increasing the
7 consistency of asset and liability recognition, with less concern about the
17 treatment.
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1 different from the accounting used by companies that are not subject to
2 rate regulation.
6 return for those privileges, the utility, including SCE, is subject to cost and
8 and reliable service. Cost and price regulation should follow the public
9 interest goals of intergenerational equity which, in utility regulation,
10 essentially prescribes that ratepayers in one period should pay the costs
12 the costs for ratepayers that receive service in another period. In order to
15 that the asset provides service, not before the asset provides service and
18 FAS 143, and the regulatory accounting requirements of FERC Order No.
19 631.
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1 tangible long-lived assets. FASB states that the reasons for addressing
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4 Users of financial statements indicated that the diverse
5 accounting practices that have developed for obligations
6 associated with the retirement of tangible long-lived assets make
7 it difficult to compare the financial position and results of
8 operations of companies that have similar obligations but
9 account for them differently.
13 The anticipated benefits of FAS 143 include the fact that financial
15 retirement obligations (AROs) that fall within the scope of FAS 143 will be
17 FAS 143, few companies other than regulated utilities recognized any
18 costs of removal in their GAAP financial reporting until the costs were
20 decommissioning and other legal AROs over the life of the property as a
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24 AROs will be recognized when they are incurred and will be
25 displayed as liabilities.
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1 A. The project that resulted in the issuance of FAS 143 was launched in order
2 to address concerns originally raised by the SEC about the “accounting for
4 type costs in other industries.” This issue was first raised by the SEC staff
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8 rates) and that if nuclear plants were shut down prematurely, the full
9 liability would not have been recognized. As a result of the concerns
10 raised by the SEC, the Edison Electric Institute (an electric utility trade
15 (and still is) to help standardize financial reporting of legal obligations for
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21 tangible long-lived asset.” FAS 143 applies to all entities, including rate-
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1 nuclear and coal plant decommissioning at the end of or after their useful
2 life. The FAS 143 ARO definition should not to be taken to mean, as Mr.
3 Majoros holds, that the accounting community does not believe that there
4 are no other long-lived assets that will incur removal and disposal costs.
5 For example, to date, the retirement obligations for the majority of the
8 established by SFAS 143 for recognizing ARO liabilities, it does not mean
9 that these removal costs will not be incurred. The recorded costs used in
10 SCE’s net salvage study clearly indicates that removal costs are incurred
11 for Non-ARO’s.
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18 asset retirement obligation is the amount the liability could be settled for
19 with a willing third party. The fair value of a liability is best determined
23 weighted estimation of future cash flows. Under FAS 143, the full
22 SFAS No. 143, paragraph 2. This means that FAS 143 does not apply to temporary removal
3 or maintenance activities.
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15 A. FAS 143 became effective January 1, 2003 for companies whose fiscal
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19 A. The impact on regulated entities resulting from FAS 143 is generally net
22 assets and regulatory liabilities are probable under FAS 71. Timing
24 effects of initially implementing FAS 143 and the ongoing net expenses
27 environment.
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4 A. No. Recognition of regulatory liabilities and assets is not new and is not
5 specific to issues raised by FAS 143. Regulatory liabilities and assets are
6 accounted for under the auspices of FAS 71, was issued in December
14 depreciation. The 2004 financial statements for SCE show the regulatory
15 asset for flow through taxes to be $1.0 billion at year-end 2004. SCE
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19 REMOVAL?
20 A. No. FAS 143 does not address ratemaking treatment at all. The manner
21 in which removal and disposal costs are treated for financial reporting
22 purposes and the way in which they traditionally have been treated for
23 ratemaking purposes are different. There is, however, nothing in FAS 143
24 that precludes SCE and other utilities from continuing to recover removal
25 costs in the approved depreciation rates, whether or not those costs fall
26 within the scope of FAS 143. In fact, the guidelines of FAS 143 explicitly
27 recognize that:
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12 FAS 143 guidelines provide that if the requirements for FAS 71 are met,
15 financial reporting.
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19 A. No. GAAP does not prescribe the method or procedures for cost recovery
27 the differences that may occur in the timing of cost recognition for rate-
29 FAS 71.
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1 Q. ARE THERE ANY REASONS THAT THE FAS 143 METHOD SHOULD NOT BE
4 estimated removal cost for each asset and then assigns a probability to
7 require to perform the work including their required profit margin, even if
8 the company intends to perform the work internally. This weighted cost
9 estimate is then discounted based on an estimated “credit-adjusted risk-
10 free rate” (essentially the specific company’s then current unsecured debt
12 liability over the time period until the liability is estimated to be settled.
14 over time, and therefore does not meet the ratemaking goals of
17 mass property items with indeterminate specific lives for each piece of
20 which can be applied broadly. Third, this method would not be practical
21 even for assets other than the mass property items due to the complexity
23 recommends that the FAS 143 approach not be used because the method
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4 IS AVOIDABLE?”
5 A. No, I do not. The assertion made by Mr. Majoros, is based on faulty logic.
6 His assertion wrongly assumes that unless a removal or disposal cost does
7 flow from a legal obligation, then there is no probability that it will occur,
14 contradicts the recorded history, not only at SCE, but across the industry.
15 Utilities do not have a legal obligation to incur many of the projected costs
17 or a “promise to spend the money” does not mean that the incurrence of
18 these costs is not probable. SCE incurs several million dollars of removal
19 costs each year. Based on prior experience, SCE expects to incur removal
20 costs in order to replace property units that wear out, become obsolete, or
21 are removed for other reasons. It is probable that such costs will be
22 incurred in order for the utility to meet its obligation to serve customers.
23 However, the utility obligation to provide service is not the type of legal
25 Mr. Majoros makes the conclusion that “By definition, non-legal AROs
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1 He assumes that since, according to FAS 143 requirements, all legal AROs
5 FAS 143. It should not be used to imply that all other asset retirement
6 obligations are not probable. The reality is that Non-AROs are not
8 because there are no legal obligations to retire the underlying assets. Mr.
9 Majoros uses the definition of probable, cited from FAS 143, severely out
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3 COSTS?
4 A. No. As I mentioned earlier, FAS 143 only addresses financial reporting under
10 DEPRECIATION?
11 A. No. FAS 143 actually does not specifically address accounting for non-AROs.
12 Paragraph B73 of FAS 143, which provides background information but is not
14 regulatory liabilities if the conditions of FAS 71 are met. Nowhere in FAS 143
17 However, in late 2003 and early 2004, the SEC issued a number of comment
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26 Paragraph A15 of FAS 143 had provided an example that concluded that if
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1 there was a legal obligation to dispose of it once it was removed, then the
2 liability should be recorded when the obligation occurs (i.e., when the asset
3 was removed). The essence of FIN 47 is that since there is a legal obligation
7 Because there is often not a legal obligation to remove the asset when it
8 wears out, the “removal” cost obligation would still not qualify as an ARO and
9 would not be recorded under FAS 143.
10 The effective date of FIN 47 is “no later than the end of fiscal years ending
12 enterprises).” 7
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16 A. No. FIN 47 does not require any new accounts or accounting by the
18 required under FERC Order No. 631 adequately addresses all ARO
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26 FIN 47, paragraph A4 of Appendix A, Illustrated Examples, states that “The poles will
3 eventually need to be disposed of using special procedures, because the poles will not last
4 forever” (emphasis added).
57 FIN 47, par. 8.
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6 established new balance sheet and income accounts and revised the
14 assets.
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16 Q. DOES FERC ORDER NO. 631 CHANGE THE REGULATORY ACCOUNTING FOR
18 A. No. The FERC order does not change its accounting for the cost of
21 account for such costs consistent with the requirements of the USoA.
22 FERC simply concludes that utilities are to maintain subsidiary records for
25 No. 631 did not adopt FAS 143 or the SEC guidance requiring
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8 CONCERN WARRANTED?
9 A. No. There is absolutely no reason to raise an alarm or be concerned. I
11 costs and have found SCE to be in accordance with financial reporting and
14 Mr. Majoros inference, FERC USoA simply requires that separate subsidiary
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24 REMOVAL COSTS?
25 A. No. FERC Order No. 631 does not address ratemaking recovery of
28 Direct Testimony of Michael J. Majoros on Behalf of The Utility Reform Network, page 12.
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3 to reflect the differences as prescribed in FERC Order No. 552 under the
5 previously discussed.
7 Q. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY UTILITY COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE ADOPTED FAS
11 provided for rate recovery of both legally and non-legally required costs of
14 utility industries and the oil and gas industry recognized costs of removal
15 in advance of spending funds for the removal activity. Since FERC and
17 and removal costs and how they should be treated for ratemaking
18 purposes than the FASB, I would not expect FERC or any state commission
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26 Order 631, the FERC USoA prohibits the removal of amounts from
27 accumulated depreciation other than for the prescribed purposes (i.e., the
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10 paragraph 11b of FAS 71 based on the “expectation” that those costs will
11 be incurred in the future, but with the “understanding” that the utility will
12 remain “accountable” for those costs and that future rates could be
14 AROs would best be considered when and if any of SCE’s operations cease
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17 Conclusions
21 ARO costs in rates is not necessary since the recovery of removal costs
23 rates. FAS 71 and FERC Order No. 631 provide the basis for making any
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6 the period that the removal cost is incurred for an asset whose service
7 started well before that period. Mr. Majoros’ net present value approach
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13 A. Yes, it does.
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