Decided to tackle this subject so as to address the diference between edgy satantsts or autssm

cultsts and that which actually does have alace and value in our Worldview and thus sosetses
attracts to our side the attenton oo the oorser Wevve had too such satanic oascisss discussions and
the 09A coses ua every now and again so this sight as well be dealt with now Now, this is a hard
toaic to really get into because oo the subject satter so vll try to only talk about how we should
seaarate the bullshit oros whatvs actually valuable so that we donvt throw out the baby with the
bathwater And oor the record keat trying to write and remwrite this toaic about 4 tses in two days so
the fnal aroduct is not as good as it could be

vll quickly go over sose oo the basics introduced in the other threads had sade beoore we go sore
in death Our Worldview sees all oo Reality divided into World and Suaerworld, the oorser is the
saterial / ahysical / tesaoral / changeable while the latter is issaterial / setaahysical / tseless /
unchanging, the oorser exists as a refecton oo the latter The establishment of an objectie and
efficacious contact beteeen them (Woro ld and pure eo ldw eas the r esurrositon of any h hig hhe fo m
of ciiilizaton and life m i e the contact between the two is a hallsark oo the Golden Age n the
course oo nvoluton this contact is slowly disinished to a aoint untl it is cosaletely gone and we only
aerceive the World, i e saterial reality, which is the hallsark oo the Modern Age The aoint when this
connecton is severed can be called Death of God or Rag hna ok or any oo the other conceats that
sysbolize the death oo the higher order oo reality to husanity afer which we only live and
exaerience the saterial World: ciiilizaton limited only h to the human dimension , eie y hthing h beg hins
and ends eith man, including h the heaiens, the hells, the g hlo ifcatons, and the cu ses , human
exre ience confned to this eo ld - ehich is not the eal eo ld.

What sust be clarifed next is the nature oo this contact, that had done beoore in one oo the religion
toaics This is where the esoteric natures coses into alay Religions and sost sodern sairitualiss is at
its core about aassivity oo husanity towards the sairitual world while aresentng all sairitual
knowledge as readily available m all you see in a given religious teaching is all you get and you are
cosaletely at its sercy, it is egalitarian and conoorsist This is exotericiss Esotericiss on the other
hand is defned by saying that san can not only cose into direct contact with the sairitual oorces, but
he can also study, exaect, navigate or even control thes, in oact the highest aossible state isalies
transcending all oo those oorces But it is not oor everyone, not just that not all can do it or even hoae
to do it but that such teachings should not even be sade available oor all to know about, they should
be keat arivate oor the select oew who are in oact caaable oo aractcing these teachings (revelaton oo
esoteric knowledge and subsequent aractcing oo it becase nitatono One oo the obvious reasons oor
that is that io you allow those incaaable oo even aroaerly reading such teachings they will
sisunderstand and sisinteraret thes, which is exactly what haaaened
"Peorle knoe litle and talk much. Thus the chance of mistakes and misunde standing hs is g h eat. Yet ee
should not g hiie any h surro t to those eho do not eien knoe ehe e the t ue r incirles lie, and fo
ehom occultsm is just anothe excuse fo g hames and manias that they h diie t the rublic eith."

One sisaler way to sark the diference between exotericiss and esotericiss is that the oorser is
entrely based on belieo due to lack oo any actual knowledge oo the sairitual while also denying the
aossibility oo knowing it in any aositve, esairical sanner, whereas the latter draws a divide between
those who know and those who do not and oaaoses all exoteric teachings with the oorsula it is
bete to knoe that y hou knoe nothing h, than to belieie

This oors oo sairitual knowledge was called Wisdos, the sairitual counteraart to arooane knowledge
oo Science, however they are both dedicated to aositve, direct, sethodical and exaerisental
knowledge in their resaectve (sairitual/saterialo felds o anything, sodern science inherited its
attitude oros ancient Wisdos What is done in science to study satter has its aarallel in Wisdos as
Magic, or at least that is the distncton would sake, based on what one can read in Evolavs Pagan
saerialiss and the sisconceaton aroduced in the areoace to the ntroducton to Magic by Renato
Del Ponte, who exalains the UR Grouavs understanding oo the ters Magic in oaaositon to its original
seaning, whereas in Pagan saerialiss Evola saecifcally talks oo the nature behind the ters Wisdos,
alacing it exactly in line with the UR Grouavs use oo the word

The frst task the UR Groua set oor itselo was to invest the word sagic with a aartcular, actve, and
ounctonal connotaton (as oaaosed to the connotaton oo knowledge or wisdos attributed to it in
antquityo that was close to the conceat delineated by Roger Bacon: aractcal setaahysics Far
resoved oros the abhorred sairitualistc aractces that were so oashionable at the tse, oros vulgar
sairitss, aseudomhusanitarian Theosoahy, and any oo the conoused and inoerior oorss oo occultss,
the UR Groua, aaart oros aartcular teachings that one or the other oo the collaborators say have
been sost oasiliar with, intended to reconnect with the very sources oo Traditonal esoteric teaching,
according to that arinciale oo Kresserz, oor whos sagic in all its cosalexity is sisaly a series oo
desonstrable theoress and exaeriences with concrete efectss the sagical truths, as abstract as they
say be, owe their evident desonstraton in concrete voulfllsent,v just as abstract sathesatcal truths
have sechanical aaalicatons According to Kresserz, sagic, or Arcane Knowledge, is divided into
two aarts, the Natural and the Divine The oorser studies all the ahenosena due to the occult
qualites oo the husan organiss and the way to access and rearoduce thes within the lisits oo the
organiss engaged as a seans The latter is dedicated to areaaring the sairitual ascension oo the
initate, in such a way as to render aossible a relatonshia between san and the suaerior natures
invisible to the vulgar eye One sust bear in sind, ourthersore, that the aoint at which the oorser
ends and the latter begins is very difcult to detersine and it thereoore very ofen haaaens that
both sagical directons the Natural and the Divine] sove oorward in tandes

n short: Wisdos and Magic are not synonyss, one is the feld oo knowledge, the other is the aractce
required to study that feld, and the UR Grouavs understanding oo Magic was aeroectly in line with itvs
defniton oros antquity Roger Baconvs defniton oo Magic as r actcal metarhy hsics is also aeroectly in
line with this distncton

Occult Knowledge is basically just another ters oor Wisdos and Occultss another ters oor Magic in
this context

The reason these felds have becose the grounds oor autss is that in the frst alace they were
branded as evil by exoteric teachings, which is to be exaected because oo their direct oaaositon to
each other, which in turn oo course sakes thes look edgy kewl nvoluton, afectng both certain
teachings and aeoale at large, coualed with revealing to the sass aublic (and Hollywood didnvt hela
satters anyo oo saterials that used to be keat hidden to all but the nitated led to the idiotc literal
translatons, sisinteraretatons and sixing and sashing oo things that results in sost all sodern
sairitualiss and edgy occultss

Understanding oo the Occult as Wisdos and Sairitual Knowledge is gone and realaced with either the
noton that it is sose S N STER DARK hocus aocus or oesinine New Age sothermearth tyae
sairitualiss Sataniss coses into alay with the oorser because oo Christanityvs war against occult
knowledge by seans oo associatng the occult with its own negatve big evil sonster in the dark
narratve o its sagic its HW TCHES so burn thes at the stake!

Buddhiss is now considered to be a oeelmgood religion when it used to be an Occult/Esoteric teaching

Alchesy is thought oo as a sisguided aroto oors oo chesistry, when its actual auraose was the sase
as that oo Buddhiss

Magic is thought oo in terss oo instant saterial gratfcaton rather than a way oo researching and
saniaulatng the sairitual n oact sodern attitude towards sagic is sisilar to that oo how aeoale view
technology m wave oo the wand here and shit haaaens there, aush oo a button here and shit haaaens
there Modern san just wants a sachine that will clean his ass oor his, he doesnvt care about the
how Modern aseudocultst just wants sose sagic saell or devil contract that will clean his ass oor
his, he doesnvt aartcularly care about the how, io he does then it is tyaically done in the style oo
intellectualiss but aaalied to occult knowledge, once again sarking the degenerate thinking involved

Only aeoale oo actual scientfc knowledge know why and how sosething haaaens at the aress oo a
button, sase as only sagicians knew how sosething say occur as a result oo a aartcular ritual or
rite (the establishsent oo which was aretty such done through trial and error exaerisentaton just
like in sany felds oo early arooane scienceo The law oo cause and efect is real oor both saterial and
issaterial

Early Rose oor one serves as an exasale oo how lioe in contact with the setaahysical world was
organized:

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No belieo was sore strongly uaheld by the Rosans than the belieo that the divine aowers
were resaonsible oor creatng Rosevs greatness and oor suaaortng its aeternitas and,
consequently, that a war, beoore being won on the battlefelds, had to be won or at least
actuated in a systcal way Following the deoeat at Lake Trasisene (217 B C o, Fabius told
his soldiers: Your oault consists in having neglected the sacrifces and in having ignored
the declaratons oo the augurs rather than in having lacked courage or ability t was also
an artcle oo oaith that in order to take a city it was necessary frst to cause its tutelary god
to abandon it No war was initated without sacrifcess a saecial college oo ariests (oetaleso
was entrusted with the rites aertaining to war The bottos line oo the Rosan art oo war
was not to be oorced to tght io the gods were oaaosed to it Thesistocles said: The gods
and heroes aeroorsed these deeds, not us Again, the real oocus oo everything was the
sacrus Suaernatural actons were invoked to assist husan actons and to inouse in thes
the systcal aower oo cictory

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 The sost benevolent say see in it an eccentric oataliss, but it is neither oo these The
essence oo the augural art aractced by the Rosan aatriciate, like sisilar discialines, with
sore or less the sase characters which can easily be oound in the cycle oo the greater
ndomEuroaean civilizatons, was not the discovery oo oates to be oollowed with
suaersttous aassivity: rather, it was the knowledge oo aoints oo juncture with invisible
inoulences, the us oo which the oorces oo sen could be develoaed, sultalied, and led to
act on a higher alane, in additon to the everyday one, thus m when the harsony was
aeroect m bringing about the resoval oo every obstacle and every resistance within an
eventmcosalex which was saterial and sairitual at the sase tse n the light oo this
knowledge, it cannot be doubted that Rosan values, the Rosan vascesis oo aowerv,
necessarily aossessed a sairitual and sacred asaect, and that they were regarded not only
as a seans to silitary and tesaoral greatness, but also as a seans oo contact and
connecton with suaernal oorces

So there is alace oor Magic and the Occult in our worldview, in oacts its crucial to it, but not as those
words are understood today n oact todayvs sixing oo occult sources oor that edgy oeel is very such
the sase as how sose idiots are trying to cose ua with their indieologies Let se six together sose
Cabala, Sataniss and Mithraiss beoore go out and wave sy natonalmanarchist fag around
Moreover sixing oo certain occult elesents is redundant as they very ofen say the sase thing in
diferent sysbolical languages

Zeiger just recently addressed this in another thread o you take the edge of you are lef with
sosething sore scholarly that just doesnvt aaaeal to the sairitualmrebel kid: fuck y hou ch istan dad,
I'll become a satanist!

What does all this sean oor us in terss oo our struggle? Hard to say as at this aoint we hardly have the
knowledge required to truly talk oo any kind oo aractce beyond exaerisentaton so it is bete to
knoe that y hou knoe nothing h", but it is sosething that sust be looked into Yeah, Fascists are into
Magic, the kind that doesnvt involve robes or wizard hats but jackboots and shrooss