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So many-so many uh decisions we made at Netscape

many voices at once

So we will try this one

The R-2

Which one

Yeah noticed that

Wha-what made you choose that one

This the obvious

cause my hand went-wavered it is
Uh that one was chosen

cream-filled might have jelly-filled

one was going for it because it was gotten

think can deal with it

but problems and mistakes you have to live with

Many voices at once

bottle at their desk

Does anyone have opener

him we can the soda with

Dewey must have knife on open

No dont.

Scientific photo-memory

Ive got one with those frequencies

Absolutely..

Its scanning electron camera

Shhh

think it needs something

Some people go for the donuts some go for the sugar

Oh youre kidding

voices at once
many

Yeah what do you want

many voices at once

Ohshit

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Heads up

Is there anything they cant do

No .. my prediction that will be the last time to hear the

many voice at once

24 Hours

All right bye

Wheres my hat

many voices at once

Okay there it is Okay thanks

many voices at once

Get out off

my way theres donuts

You know you do have to

pay for them man

Lets put it down right and theyll steal

Thats cool

Hey man those are my donuts

many voices at once

Oh please Oh mighty magnificent who was right and was wrong may please

partake of your donuts

We just talked about you

many voices at once

Theres blueberry in this one

many voices at once

Do you like donuts Michael

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Ha ha ha ha ha

These are for juggling his are for eating

definitely dont want to follow behind you..

many voices at once

30 seconds ago it was 418 unsigned

many voices at once

Uh RDS

many voices at once

418

many voices at once

Donuts ah

Um in the name of justice

Oh-ho-ho

And the American way So

Come on eat your donut and

there are some bugs that are not currently closed but most of them are like

piddly little annoying things that

Some of its stuck

Some of its stuck hope youre gonna clean that up

Jamie asked me to do it and hes volunteered to clean it

up

see and if Jamie asked you to jump off cliff youd do it

many voices at once

Its been known to happen

many voices at once

So um theres nothing on the bug list thats tremendously scary Um Im pretty

sure that these things are going to be resolved Were gonna do beta next week

Ill sort it to some people Were probably gonna have to scam some people from

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the net because corporate people who meet our requirements are not falling from

trees but then it will be okay

Because were not from those people

gonna get anything anyway

Oh hopefully

big laughs

Its probably anyway..

Yeah were not doing the beta for PR so really dont care PR-wise Ijust care

about getting who will

people actuaJly unload it instead of like sending it off with

their friends
saying Im the first one to get the source code Urn

-fl

The list of one sight files is small didnt think there was any way since there

were nine thousand on Monday that we would get to uh relatively small number

The bet was that we wouldnt under thousand

get by today and were like well

under thousand

Whoo-hoo

Whats that

418

Clapping hooting and hollering

all praise the uh the search has been tremendous pile of people

working really hard this week to do the impossible the Java team to pull

off their seventh miracle in row

Clapping hooting and hollering

am ridding the world of Java

Big laughs

Making the world sink for Java

To save the world they had to

destroy it

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Big laughs

Did anyone notice how fast the builds are now

Big laughs

security code is out

Speech

Oh

Speech Speech Speech

Speech

What can we learn oh great one

Little laughs

The critical thing-actually the killer guys were Ube Raman and Gordon til late

at night but should point out that John Bandauer and Rick Potts waited til

oclock in the morning one night with us that was really cool But stream of

people Jamie uh Bermans uh

The little people

Big laughs

Yeah Dave had called me from his death bed at home He was sick and he

said Uh uh-Ive got to go to sleep soon but what can do

Big laughs

And so it was really team effort It was really

wonderful to see that much focus

from so many to get it done And thats really what this is all about mean eight

thousand-It-this was not the lava but you can imagine it was eight thousand lava

files..

Big laughs

But uh think its pretty

Big laughs

fr

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The uh the Mac is really sensitive to changes in exactly what set of files were

dealing with And everytime you do that typ-historically its two weeks before

any Mac can get

work done again We changed that list of files ten thousand

times in the last week

Well Ive checked it to the file

Hool

So the Mac light was basically-it was cratering It was-it was a-it was plane that

was going down there were flames coming out of the engine the fire tucks were

clearing people away the news reporters

Big laughs

The foam

The foam the news reporters were standing by to like do the-do the deal and its

like pulled up here at the last second because people didnt sleep and worked really

hard and did amazing things Kathy Brady and

Scott and

Paul and Mike Pinkerton

Mike Pinkerton

Mike Pinkerton

Steve Dagly

Yeah

Gordon

Scott completely awesome um

Speaking of Gordon

Yeah

As early as-as early as this morning was pretty sure the Mac client was not going

to escape

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Boo

Little laughs

Forgive me for ever doubting What a-what fool Ive been Urn Im gonna end

up-the people like worked on the windows client and got it done should all be

applauded too We should all just like

Applause

Thank you Sarah

The X-line really doesnt matter so Im not gonna

Big laughs cut off speech

Even though its tier one right

Ooh ooh No no no Urn next week

Ha ha

Im sorry if you could each wait just little longer youd get
Yeah

Yeah

Okay

Ha ha okay

Michael did you get time

mean they were like

Yes the release tearn

Release tearn

Clapping hoots and hollers

Bruno where is he

Standing standing

Oh Wheres damn
forgot my bruise it

Big laughs and clapping

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Judy didnt fall off that chair by herself

little laughs

No we need her

You drank it all

Someone ask her

Were toasting you know

The key building thing that forgot to tell you extremely important Ijust think

youre all doing really good job

Big laughs

Oh we feel good now

Little laughs

Send us Email

ffljgjhs

Ithinkweneeda..

Yeah just-I just want to thank each and every one of you for all the effSt

The little people

Yeah the little people Um next week well be making beta and- hopefully

small number should be worrying about the beta else should be thinking
Everyone

about what is that thing that builds from the What is that thing that builds

from the free source code is and is it useful Like if it crashes on start-up we

should fix cant were

that if
you open windows mean those kinds of things

not-our highest level priority now And this is good time

And doc

And doc-and documentation Build instructions documentation and making the

thing as good as possible that-that gets out So we should be in stability-stability

mode Dont whack the tree majorly even if youve discovered this whole new

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module that youd be ashamed to show your mother Just show it to your

moths

Big laughs

Never

Big laughs

Show it to your mom sure that works great

And how many is none

Features get you there

None

did three camels cant you count

Zero boots

Zero-zero boots No features

Thats except for that one right

Except for that one special feature Thats really important Well since-since the

marketing people

Its not crashing

Its not really all over waiting for this theyre not gonna be all over wishing that

thered more features

The marketing people are trying to figure out what the release is
plan thing-a-majig

right

Is that the teclmical term Don

Yeah think so

Many voices at once

Yeah

Big-big things

Ho ho ho ho ho

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Its like-

Okay

So..

Its like near the place where we went that time

Yeah there you go

Standing here and-and-and drink champagne and eat donuts until the lack of air-

conditioning causes us all to pass out

Big laughs

..more hostages

Vote okay

Those hostages have to be free before it

goes out of the building

No

Md-and there are the

Save the life of just one file

Big laughs

We can either shoot em or get em out

What he said

Is the license done

No these-what

Is the license done

uh-oh

We also-we also still have open bug that are

open P-Os

No

You had an open P-O

And Im-I hope youre closing that bug Michael

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If you want to open P-O of P.2s those need to be closed as soon as possible

P-3 means but its not

this is bug it was probably .. bug for right now

before the beta like oh need lot of documentation we dont need that right now

or were wai-weve done everything we can but this person hasnt signed this-

piece-piece of paper but we know were going to be able to ship this source code

mean those should probably be converted to P-O We want to actually stabilize on

that stuff before the other people check in

Okay Then well convert Scott tool front end bug to P-O

Oh good like needed more stress

Okay and everyone stand outside Scotts cube and ask him every five seconds

when it will be done

Big laughs

You know Im kinda tired..

That to be fun
ought

It works for me

Little laughs

All right makes difference so Jody many donuts did we actually experience

today

We got about eight dozen and minus six donuts

Those are eight dozen

Yeah

Wow

We packed them in there tight

Big laughs

Thanks Jody for taking the effort to put all this together

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Applause and Yeahs

There we go Beer and donuts make it

happen

Many voices at once

New Section

Yeah where hes gonna tape

did the opposite

it
way once and so

And dont have white

How do you find white

Yeah white me

Well you went over the ram from last time right

Yeah No no no still have one more ram Im not Im not. havent even got

to the uh part yet

Break

You saved the

right

Weve got this possibility over here in this light it

changes the color slightly

Go for it

Go for it

Wherere we going

and go ahead little slower

Good

Okay this is drifting over to the build pit Tara Hernandez Chris Yeh etc

Zooming into the build pit first floor

Now were zooming in on Don Miltons office Here we are

Adjacent is Scott Collins Mike Pinkerton and Paul Channing We did that

interview with Mike Pinkerton second day Okay

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Theres noise and theres good stuff on

Okay were still here

Why dont you go for durability and buy Martin

My dream bike fifty two bits of black lightning okay

And youve got

know how to play that song even

Oh do you really

really do

Awesome You play guitar

Ido

We should get together and play some time

Okay

Bye Chris

Bye

Is he on the death list

Hes not D.P stop

Hey Don we need

Don

Okay..

Go

So should mail it

garbled speech

All right this happened this morning

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Yeah

Okay

have question for you

question

We have bug here for

You gonna get done today

Huh

You gonna get that done today

dont think so

All right want to reassign it..

Lets let D.P get it D.P

Idont know

What is it

The that should be moved out

The source code

Were not getting any on this

Many voices at once

Ive been-I sent out-actually sent out about 10 Emails this morning everybody

wrote something on the list

Are right Dave just told me he cant get it done today This should not be days

worth of work Im gonna reassign it to somebody else Ill

reassign it to you-

No would except Im going skiing Im sorry

It was really nice yesterday Ill tell

you that much

Pm
You know dont want to hear about it Im not allowed to go to the snow this

year so all of you can bite me

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Sorry

All right the rest of this stuff seems like have to talk to and Dennis unless

he still hasnt coughed up information on TI

Many voices at once

Oh its one day trip

We got three pieces of micro-line

Its still Friday Im gonna go skiing leave tomorrow then Im gonna go

You gonna be back on Friday

Thats

Many voices at once

Were doomed

Many voices at once

Everybody knows the plot anyones that been tuning in...what why are we

gonna make money on this

remember last summer when they were talking about uh theyd slipped right the

camera had slipped and we were gonna make it for the summer blockbuster review

Were gonna have to go in as an art film in the winter

Its not BMW

Were never gonna be able to eat lunch in this town again because this is just gonna

Many voices at once

No this is actually like hours old now so its..

Many voices at once

This is done This Im still waiting on

Leave it for the universal

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Theres three yeah theres been three pieces of microline we just dont have

result on Sarahs taking care of all this stuff still cant find an owner for

DBM..

DBM..

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Jonathan Jonathan

Well we just need someone to hone it

Whats the lat-is there

any latest word or anything on

Its done All we have to do is update the

Many voices at once

We sign the tip and we and its not big deal We just have to verify that it

works

Many voices at once

...this stuff is urn related

security

Many voices at once

Does anybody know where Michael is

He was in his office couple rninutes

ago

Many voices at once

2606

Calling Michael

So thought was all

security related stuff for Java script

How was your weekend

Hi Michael

Hey Michael were in the uh source 3-31 meeting

aL /o /L

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Oh all right Im coming..

Okay and then this one needs to be

Id have to adjust it and move it so that it

Many voices at once

Urn thats reasonable way of dealing with it mean theyve got to get it back in

and

Many voices at once

thought we sent you away

You did but

Many voices at once

All right so there are 2-10 bugs

count five

Bugs

P-O to P-i

Uh P-2 is the
interesting cut off

Oh yeah P-2

Theres actually there was three hundred and ninety unsigned files as of six hours

ago and since then weve cut down to about half

Right and the big piles of microline

Big piles of microline

And Ive sent out hes gonna go check-Todds supposed to be talking to him

right now because they had sorne last minute hair curling and uncurling..

So are we-is the plan assuming them are negotiations to ship those files under

their license or under the NPL

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Under their license thought which is the one thing were like

But we cant ship it with their license

Their license
says this-this constitutes trade secret so

Im sorry

new license from them that we havent yet received

No we havent yet received it so

And where-where did we get the sign off that says we can ship multiple licenses

.. number of licenses

good approximation

You never know..

At least were shipping at maximum of nine thousand

Right

We actually more than that

Thats right because theres not-theres more than one license just for filing right

Fifty four hundred files

Well but there are still files that have multiple licenses in them

Youre right

Okay up to thirty four of them as matter of fact

No those are thirty four

Oh well okay

Uh Im sorry

Should we go over the bugs here because want to go over what our next

milestones were so we get feel for what we need to do

Yeah lets do .. bugs

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Okay

Uh Ill just go-I get-this is alphabetical order so uh 110133 Brian uh Will

Right and he assigned it to himself and you said leave it alone

Yeah he said what should do with message done text and said dont do

anything just ship it dont understand why the bugs still..

dont know why

Mail that message

Or mail that
message yeah

1-33

Yeah All right next interesting bug uh P-i

Yeah theres one above that want to a-theres uh 617 The mail source FAQ

thats gotta be P-i you gotta have that you know thats something

Well this goes onto Ricks problems though right

Thats

Well but its dependent on our

Well the dec-theres two things that need to happen set of source code needs

to get produced that we can give to somebody Those bugs are P-0 P-i and P-2

Yep

Right

The documentation bugs are all P-3 right now

So thats why thats not P-i

Wait minute all right Paul this is parallel but we should-we need to
really

have on
something the mail depending on the deeision we still need to make

but

Well Chris Duboce

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We gotta get Brendan in the room once more and Bob and then were-I think

were there

So well do that
Wednesday

Wednesday fine yeah Urn but Chris owns this and bet he doesnt know he

owns this FA-source of AQ

You want to take that out Michael

Yep

Whats the bug that the-one needs Beginning of Loop Below to be created

with lack of mail source

.source of AQ

Undoubtedly were probably not gonna have any mail source on 31..

mean did Chris already

put together something

root and format that addresses that

Root and this is-this is standard now pardon the term this is like assuming

someone really obnoxious is

Has Jamie-has Jamie looked at that

Urn-

Id like to see it-I-Id like to see it before you showed it to Jamie because having

Jamie un-explode unnecessarily would be bad thing

Big laugh

Wait minute theres three marketing people working on mail source whos

working on it

I-I-we cant mess

distribute this-this is
gonna be

Youre working on it Youre working on it Chris is working on it

Ill-Ill check with Chris If Chris is not working on it Ill make sure that we get

fact that
says..

Jc
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But how can you write the fact-You cant write the fact until we tell you what the

fact says and we cant tell

you what it
says today

True well right Im telling you that Chris put together three an for mail

source Okay and will send that to you you and Michael

Just send it to links

your own links

Just send it to source at

Except is Jamie on that

No

No

Thats unbelievable

Send itto him

Big laughs

Okay who all has thought of making sure they know what gets..
Li LI

Tape fades for moment and ioop starts from where it

says above

eginning of Loop Below

.. created with lack of mail source

tote

The
sohe
of AQ
were probably not going to have any mail source on 31..
Undoubte1y

mean did
Ch already put together something

.. root and fo at that addresses that

Root and this is standard now pardon the term this is like assuming
isiqs

someone really
obnoxios
Has Jamie-has Jamie lookedt.that

Um-
Id like to see it-I-Id like to see it
you showed it to Jamie because having

Jamie un-explode unnecessarily would thing

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Big 1augh

Wait minute theres three marketing people working on mail source whos

working on
it\

I-I-we cant mess

distrute
this-this is gonna be

Youre working Youre working on it Chris is working on it

on\t

Ill-Ill check with Chris make we

Cis If is not working on it Ill sure that get

fact that
says..

But how can you write fact-You cant

t
write the fact until we tell you what the

says and we cant what

fact
says today
it
tell\ou

True well right Im telling\rou that Chris put together three an for mail

source Okay and sen.that

you you and Michael
will to

Just send it to links

Just send it to source at your

Except is Jamie on that

No

No

Thats unbelievable

Send it to him

Big laughs

Okay who all has thought of making sure know what gets

End of Loop

Well thats what were trying to figure out

As soon as someone tells me youre

According to we know for sure whats gonna hapi

all right

Chris Sito doesnt know how to put stuff on the

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So maybe to change that to

weNeed bug

Nobody to put stuff on the

knowsow
You give it to and Jamie puts it thats the
Jakie up

Its critical
thing that we want to make sure we get right
trustkmension

Yeah were-were not-I mean the P-3 bugs need to get resolved before
de\nitely

we ship source code right and so we cant ship work

to general public for the
h\e

without
public resolving
tl can make-do my source beta

Okay so Matt is
gonna folloi..through on this right

Yessir

Ill be glad to contribute and um decision

ntributing to making the happen so

you have the Qs to the FAs

Big laughs

All right next

Okay uh

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