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“Come
see us in
SEPTEMBER
2004 Africa.
We want
to meet
“AFRICA CALLING” you.”

I believe the forthcoming meeting in thing as the ability to speak English has Although it is, of course, nobody's fault,
Africa is potentially of very great impor- the value of gold in this other context. and of course, we are all doing the best we
tance… We in the West have such an enormous can, but nevertheless it is sometimes de-
wealth of money, knowledge and expertise pressing, sometimes comical, when we
The second African bizonal meeting will to contribute and in return our humanity is observe most of our Subud meetings,
take place in Kinshasa, capital city for the enriched and expanded. We are enabled to where often the most useful thing we are
Democratic Republic of Congo from 19th feel useful. able to do is make a decision about where
till 26th February 2005 at the Kimbanguiste the next meeting should be held.
Centre. Rida Liobo Loote, Vice chair of The people of developing countries have
the Organising Committee writes… as much to give us, as we have to give Shouldn’t we be doing better than this?
them. Often they are still in contact with Haven’t we been given the gift of God to
“During that meeting we will have many wellsprings of human experience - family, use for the benefit of humanity? Shouldn’t
Subud members both from African coun- community, religious faith – that have we be out there solving the problems of
tries and from other countries around the dried up in the West. the world rather than still fiddling around
world. The official delegates (WSC mem- with our own navels?
bers, Kejiwaan counsellors and African Sure, they need what we have - wealth,
national chairs) will be totally taken care education, medical services – but we also I really believe that this meeting in Africa
of by the WSC. need what they have. offers a great opportunity not only to do
something for Subud in Africa but to do
“Every other member who would like to Our need is to become spiritually more something for the whole tormented “dark
attend the meeting has to pay, beside his alive, more compassionate, to find a way continent”. We can do it. We have the
air ticket, $US600 for accommodation and out of our Western neuroses, greed and power of God with us.
food (3 meals per day) at the Kimban- alienation. To find a way of dealing with
guiste Centre. all our “human” problems of angry, suici- In future years this meeting could be
dal young people, broken family life, loss looked back upon as the very moment
“We are doing our best to help you have a of contact with the supernatural. when the renaissance of Africa began. It
wonderful time in the DRC. So, let us could be the pivot on which the future of
know your specific preoccupations and In Africa they still have those resources in Africa turned.
please confirm your participation in case abundance! We can share. We can learn
you intend to attend the meeting.” from each other. There is no reason this cannot happen. We
can make it so.
No doubt many others of you who have Of course we do not want to go to Africa
grown in up in Western countries will have with the attitude that we are the mighty For more information about the meeting
had the same experience as me. That is we givers, we are the mighty solvers of prob- contact: RIDA LIOBO LOOTE, Vice
have grown up with enough to eat, enough lems. Let us go in humility. We have as Chair / Organizing Committee: 26, avenue
money, all the education we wish to ac- much to gain from them as they from us. Poko , Quartier Kauka, Kinshasa /
quire. Then you go to a developing coun- Here is the basis for a mutually enriching Kalamu, République Démocratique du
try and you realise that all the things you exchange. Congo: Mobile 00243. 98129235
always took for granted are of enormous
value. Perhaps in this Africa meeting we can do Or contact Viktor Boehm at
something great – something that reaches viktorboehm@t-online.de
When you experience the huge crying out from Subud to make a difference in the
need in a developing country, you realise wider world. Harris Smart, Editor Subud Voice
that even such a simple taken for granted

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 1


NEWS IN BRIEF
APPOINTING INTERNATIONAL The jury choosing the
HELPERS AT SUBUD WORLD logo will be headed
CONGRESS by Anwar (a graphic
designer), Maya
Any helper who feels willing and able to Bernardes merchan-
take up the responsibilities of I.H. may be dising expert) and
nominated for this role. The role involves Laurencio Young
much travel and commitment. I.H.s in the (ISC chairman). An
present dewan spend around 12 weeks per acknowledgement of
year away from home. Serious considera- the designer with
tion of the impact on family, work and article will appear in
health are necessary. various Subud publi-
cations. Look forward
Testing is first required in the members’ to your designs!
countries with the Group or National
Dewan. Anwar Ziesel,
Congress Organizing
”Is it right for ‘A’s’ name to go forward Team 2005
for testing for the role of I.H.
at World Congress” Editor’s Note: We
notice that the dead-
If positive the name is passed to the K.C.s line will have expired
and from there to the I.H.s. The by the time you read
prospective I.H. must attend the World this, but perhaps it
Congress. may have been ex-
tended, so it may still
International Helper Dewan be worth contacting
Anwar.
DESIGN A LOGO FOR WORLD Dressing up in Colombia.
CONGRESS 2005 COLOMBIA
YOUTH GATHERING “We would advise anyone planning to visit
The World Congress 2005 team is inviting Sri Lanka for the Ibu Rahayu visit and
submissions for a logo. Mauricio Vela, Colombian Youth Co- House Opening to contact us as soon as
ordinator, writes that the Youth Gathering possible for reservations, as it will be the
This logo will be used on the official con- in Colombia was “full of wonders” and… beginning of the tourist season. Prices
gress web-site, stationery, banners, and range from $80 USD in five star hotels to
merchandising. “ I tried to introduce into this gathering $17 USD for budget type hotels in the City
very new and fresh activities which I of Colombo.”
Ideas should be simple and graphic would like to propose them for the world
(preferable vector-based), and designers congress. For example activities like the For further information and registration
should be willing to donate it free of all karaoke night or the costume party. Maybe please contact: V. Sinnadorai, National
rights. it could be a good way to get the young- Chair: Email Kamalam@sltnet.lk or
sters motivated. At the end of the gather- Robert Goonetilleke, Kejiwaan Councillor:
This will be the twelfth Subud World Con- ing everybody was happy to be there and I Email robertgoonetilleke@yahoo.com
gress, and will take place in Innsbruck, in feel that events like this, are events that
the Austrian Alps, from July 21st to Au- help the Subud Youth to GROW ”. WORLD CONGRESS WEB SITE
gust 4th, 2005.
IBU IN INDIA AND SRI LANKA There is now a World Congress 2005 web-
Please remember that if you chose to in- site: http://www.worldcongress2005.com
clude the Subud symbol in your design This September Ibu Rahayu will travel to Following the WSC meeting in Rungan
(recommendable), it must follow the estab- Bangalore, India from the 11th to the 14th Sari, SICA - now called The Creative
lished guidelines, i.e.: No distortion of the and then to Colombo, Sri Lanka, from the Team - has agreed to send a questionnaire
image; no transformation (for example, 14th to the 20th, when she will inaugurate with letter to all the Subud members in the
turning it into a sun); it should be at the the new Subud Centre. For registration world asking for their vision of the next
top of the image; preferable colours: blue, form contact: world congress 2005 in Innsbruck.
gold, white, black, silver, or yellow.
Mr.Balasubramanaim, ( balu) 90, 4th Main, Members can fill in the form either by
In this case we have also decided that the Amarjyothi layout, Bangalore 560032, email (creativeteam@subud.net), fax or
(R) does not have to appear immediately India. Phone: 0091-80-23436354 / filling it online directly on http://
below the Subud symbol - it will be added 23331904. E-mail: padmalay@vsnl.com. www.worldcongress2005.com
in an appropriate placing later.
Joe Rosario, 290/7, Venketaramiah Lay Researcher Needed: In order to clearly
As the web-site has to be launched by out, IInd cross Banaswadi, Bangalore appreciate the ideas and visions that the
early September, submissions need to be 560043, India. Phone: 0091-80-25450687 / creativity questionnaire will generate,
made by August 20th to Anwar Ziesel at 25424303. E-mail: mithra95@eth.net an independent researcher is needed to
anwarziesel@gmx.at . correlate the replies. Contact
The Sri Lankan Organisers write… creativeteam@subud.net.

2 SUBUD VOICE - September 2004


THE ENTERPRISE EXPERIMENT
By Harris Smart from a conversation It has struck me
with Sachlan Fraval more and more
lately that as
Attentive readers of Subud publications Subud members
over the last year or so will have noticed a the most powerful
number of references to “The Experi- impulse for us is
ment” an approach to enterprise being the altruistic one,
promoted by Sachlan Fraval from Aus- not the self-
tralia. interested one. It is
through altruism
First in Australia, and then in other parts that we access
of the world, Sachlan has spoken at meet- power, prosperity
ings and congresses about this new ap- and success, not
proach. However, what has been lacking only for ourselves
in print so far has been a clear and com- but also for others
prehensive description of exactly what - eventually we
Sachlan has been talking about. What is hope for the whole
the “experiment”? How did Sachlan ar- world, for “all of
rive at it? What results does it produce? mankind”.

I recently interviewed Sachlan in order to Of course once you


get an overview of his ideas. Certainly to have the altruistic
many people it seems his concept is the impulse then you
most inspiring, encouraging, democratic have to make it
and effective restatement of the enterprise happen in a practi-
ideal to come along for quite some time. cal way, but it
seems to me the Sachlan Fraval.
Amongst other things it seems to offer a strongest things
fresh way of seeing the relationship be- now begin with an altruistic impulse. Of had not been successful. Now I realised
tween our spiritual and material lives. course, after that, we are also entitled to that it was necessary to put God first, to
look after our legitimate needs, our live- accomplish enterprise through a kind of
Most important of all, it is not just theory lihood and so on. surrender.
but has been producing results in individ-
ual lives and in providing substantial fi- I have seen this recently in my own life. Only last week I was in Kalimantan at the
nancial assistance to the Subud organisa- If we start off thinking what can I do for WSC meeting in Rungan Sari, and in one
tion and projects… Subud? What can I do for this person? of her talks Ibu Rahayu said there are no
What can I do for humanity? then im- enterprises in the kejiwaan. We keep ask-
HS: How did it all start? mense powers are unleashed. ing her about enterprises and that is not her
role.
SF: The starting point was at the Subud SF: I think this is true.
I saw the image of a mirror as a metaphor
Australia Congress in January 2003.
for the relationship between the kejiwaan
Soon after returning from that Congress,
and enterprise.
As Irena Garrett was being tested in as the there began a period in which I was
new chair of Subud Australia, I had an awoken every night and underwent a series
It’s like this. Before we come to Subud,
unexpected and overwhelming latihan ex- of intense experiences. For the first 30
most of us search desperately for God, and
perience comparable to only one other days this took the form of feeling that I
then we come to Subud and we are opened
experience in my life when I was tested by was being taken around a racetrack at the
and it all happens easily and simply with-
Bapak. end of which was a trophy.
out any effort on our part.
I did not understand what the experience I would race around the track and try to I saw how there was an analogy with en-
meant, but it felt it had something to do pick up the trophy but I could never do it. terprise. I’d been trying all this time to
with enterprises, so I went up to Irena and As time went on I enlisted the aid of more make things happen by my own efforts,
told her that I wanted to help in this way. and more technology – a bike, then a mo- whereas I now saw that what was neces-
torbike, then a car – but was still unsuc- sary was to hand the whole thing over to
I felt it was not right for me to carry the cessful in collecting the trophy. God, to put God in front.
title of “SES Chair” and that Irena should
carry that official title, but I urged her to Then at the end of the 30 days I found my- Another important point is that the word
come to me as she identified the needs in self sitting in the stands observing the “enterprise” is too limiting. It immediately
Subud Australia, especially financial racetrack. A voice said to me, “You can go makes you think of ‘business’ whereas
needs, and I would endeavour to help her. and pick it up now.” I said, “Is it as easy as what I’m talking about is much broader
that?” And then I went and collected the and can be applied to many different kinds
HS: I think that one thing that is very trophy. of activities, large and small.
important here is that the whole thing
began with an altruistic impulse – the I interpreted these experiences to mean HS: This sounds fine in theory, but what
wish to help Irena and Subud Australia. that for all of my life in Subud – more than do you actually do?
It did not begin with a greedy selfish 30 years – I had been trying to fulfil the
impulse – what can I get out of this. enterprise ideal by my own efforts, and I Continued on page 4.

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 3


Continued from page 3. That locks us into a vow, a commitment, provide the “proof” that what we have
and a promise to God, that opens the done is correct.
SF: In order to give my ideas some con- way for us to begin to control the mate-
crete form I came up with a simple for- rial. HS: So success or failure in enterprise
mula that you can put into practice. provides us with a measure of how we
Of course I guess we should stress that are inside. We can fudge it when we
Suppose you want to achieve some this is not “magic”. We don’t want peo- “look inside”, we can be all vague and
worldly aim with a financial component. ple to try this and then get disappointed. confused about it, but endeavour in the
You want to sell something, start a busi- It still depends on your degree of sincer- material world provides objective guid-
ness, whatever. You write down what you ity, commitment, ability to receive, dis- ance. We succeed or fail. We make
want to do and you write down what cipline and worldly experience. money or we don’t. Money is a very ob-
amount of money you are going to give to jective guide isn’t it?
Subud if you succeed. SF: Yes, of course, and more experienced
people should try to help those less experi- It's like laughter if you are a comedian.
It is important to write it down because as enced. The people laugh or they don’t laugh.
we all know, once we are successful it can You have instant feedback about
be easy to forget the commitment we’ve Let me go back for a moment to what I whether you have succeeded or failed.
made. was saying about the “mirror” between the
spiritual and enterprise. There’s an anal- You don’t have to “look inside” to see
HS: Oh yes, we waver or redefine it or ogy with helpers. We need “enterprise whether or not you are a comedian. You
fudge it or qualify it in some way or helpers”. That's what SES should be. don’t have to consult the Roh Ilofi. The
other. The mind creeps in and finds a Roh Kudus has shown it to you. The
thousand justifications for why we don’t In the kejiwaan, a helper tries to facilitate people laughed or they didn’t laugh.
need to keep our promise other people’s receiving for themselves. It
is no use the helper receiving. What he or SF: Of course, sometimes the Roh Ilofi
SF: Especially if you make more money she has to do is help the member to receive strikes like lightning then there is no ques-
than you anticipated then you think, “Well, for themselves. tion about our “receiving”. But often the
I don’t have to give any of that!” inner picture is quite muddy, confused and
It’s up to you what amount you give, and It is the same in enterprise. The problem unclear.
whether it’s a fixed amount or a percent- with SES in the past is that it has been
age or whatever. It’s what your inner voice from the top down, but what we have to do I believe that we really have responsibility
tells you is right. is awaken activity at the grass roots. as human beings to control the material.
This is the least we have to do in order to
Get people moving for themselves. Get be able to leave this world when we die.
HS: By making that vow you ensure
them confident about their own ideas and And I believe that we can “compel” the
that there is at least an element of altru-
receivings so that they begin to take steps material to obey our will. And the way we
ism in your effort.
for themselves. We need to encourage that, do that is by putting God first.
SF: That’s right. so that people will feel motivated and get
moving at whatever level they’re at. Someone said to me, “Oh this is like
At one point in my recent experiences I you’re trying to bribe God. It’s like you
HS: I know that part of your thinking is
was directed to go to the Bible to read the think you can force God to do something.
that we are better off focusing on the
story of Ananias. This was a man and his You want to make a bargain with God.
“outside” rather than the “inside”.
wife in one of the early Christian commu- God, if I do this, then you have to do that.
nities. The community made a commit- You’re trying o compel God. And you
SF: Part of my recent insight is that we can
ment that everyone was going to give up can’t bargain or control or bribe God.”
get a clearer idea of things if we look not
their personal wealth and pool it for the
inside ourselves but outside ourselves.
community. I hope this is not what I am recommend-
You know Bapak spoke of the Roh Ilofi
ing. What I am saying is more like, If you
which operates inside us, and the Roh
Anaias and his wife sold their house but make the commitment to God, then there
Kudus which operates outside us.
they held back some of their money. As a is a kind of spiritual law which compels
result they suffered a very heavy fate. the material world to begin to obey you.
Often we “look inside” for guidance, but it
They died. There’s a lesson in that for us, I
is very hard to discern what is genuine
think. We’re lucky to get away with as HS: It’s not that we seek to compel God,
guidance from what is rubbish.
much as we do. but it is by putting God first, that we
begin to command the material world.
We all know that we are a tumult of con-
HS: Sometimes it seems God requires
flicting forces some good and some bad,
100% commitment. It’s fortunate for us At the moment of death the material comes
some helpful and some destructive, some
that He seems to let most of us off with and says, “Look, you owe all this to me.
truthful and some misleading, and it is
much less most of the time. All this money, all these possessions.” But
very hard for us in our present state of
if you can say, “No, I got it all from God”,
spiritual development to always identify
But if I understand you correctly, what then you will be free.
the voices that are correct and helpful us.
you are saying, is that by putting God
first it is like we align ourselves with a So even if we have spent a lifetime with
Outside circumstances can sometimes pro-
spiritual law, and in sense begin to the material sitting on us, if at some time
vide a more reliable guide. If things flow
“compel” the material world to obey us. before the end, we can master the material,
well for us on the outside it is an indication
then I believe we will be free to leave this
that we are probably “right” on the inside,
And the way we signify that we have put earth.
because the outside is an exact mirror of
God first is by making the commitment
how we are inside.
to give away a portion of what we re- This article will continue next time with
ceive to Subud organisation or charities. examples of how the “Experiment” has
Outside circumstances can sometimes be a
worked out in practice. Enterprise stories
more reliable “indication” of what we
large and small.
should do and successful outcomes also

4 SUBUD VOICE - September 2004


YES QUEST! THE HERO’S JOURNEY
I’m going to tell you a story. It is the story and softer and
of the hero that must quest long distances fuller, taking up
to find himself. It is the story of the heroine more space. And
who must face her demons and her light in as the bird got
order to realise her truth. further away,
Irena suffocated,
It is the story of each of us who have been unable to breath.
called away from our homes so that we
can see our lives from a different place in When Irena woke
order to return to it with new vision, clar- up, the dream
ity and a plan to act. stayed with her
and she realised
Our hero’s quest begins with the story of that she had to
Irena. She was an ordinary girl who lived respond to the
in a simple village, in a forest that still invitation. That it
stood on a hill. was inviting her
to step away from
Irena loved her home, for even though it the ease of her life
was simple, it had all the comforts a girl and to follow her
could want. But in all this perfection, there soul’s longing to
was something missing and Irena wasn't find the extraordi- YES questing heroes and heroines.
really happy. It was as if in her ordinary nary.
their waterfalls, their sacred mountain –
life, Irena longed for something extraordi-
Like Irena (the central character of a tale Mt Bundang - their laughter, their grief
nary.
that wove through the Yes Quest program and their great hearts and generosity.
But no matter how hard she looked, she this year) eleven young people and three
facilitators responded to their soul’s call to We experienced the extraordinary in each
couldn’t find it. But, she couldn't tell any-
meet the extraordinary, and took up the other. There is nothing more wonderful
one or ask for advice because people
invitation of the Yes Quest in Kalimantan than to share deep awareness and growth
would think her selfish, wanting when she
for two weeks in July. with people that you can trust. And there is
had everything. So she pushed down her
no greater gift than to be invited to witness
longing and continued with her life.
There were four from Jakarta, Dhar- and support another person’s awakening to
mawan, Titin, Aryanadi, and Erwin) five themselves.
But as in everything that is pushed down, it
didn't stay that way for long. Because one from Australia (Caroline, Arifin, Ruth,
Sofia, Roland, Marcus and Marlena), one We did this for each other and in doing so
day, on leaving her home, Irena found an
from New Zealand (Samantha), one from we became a family. It is also a fine thing
invitation at her door. It invited her to
the UK (Elanora) and 1 from Colombia to bring together 14 people from different
come on a journey. Written on a card, the
(Benedicto). And as one of the facilitators places around the world and to experience
words said:
I can share that each of us did experience our differences in language, culture, val-
the extraordinary. ues, habits and experience, while sharing a
If life is ordinary and you’re needing to
powerful faith in God and the latihan.
change
And there’s a dream within that can’t seem We experienced the extraordinary in Run-
gan Sari. For many of our group the call to We experienced the extraordinary in our-
to get free
Kalimantan was strong…a pilgrimage to selves, as we explored who we are, and
Then don’t feel worried and don’t feel you
our spiritual home. where we want to be in our lives. This self
are strange
enquiry and exploration was done through
Just buy the ticket and come journey with
To do the latihan there and to meet people a combination of creative expression, rit-
me’
from all over the world that have made it ual, deep reflection and sharing, mapping
their home was inspiring. We also became our experiences and through the divine
Irena was amazed. What an extraordinary
aware of the challenges in becoming part power of testing.
invitation. But she couldn’t see from whom
it came. It excited her and it frightened of and offering something to the wider
community, through an exercise where we We were able to see the gifts and lessons
her. The thought of leaving her safe home.
had to develop a project proposal that of our family, challenge the ways we sabo-
So, she stuck the invitation under her bed
Subud youth could contribute to in Kali- tage ourselves, acknowledge our god given
and forgot about it. But like all things
mantan. talents, skills and abilities, vision our
stuck under beds, it didn’t stay stuck for
dreams and goals, and create action plans
long. Because that night the invitation
We experienced the extraordinary in the for bringing the extraordinary into our
came again, in her dream.
Dayak culture and people. We spent an lives on returning home.
In the dream, the invitation came in the amazing 5 days in a village in the north of
It was an extraordinary quest and I can
beak of a bird. Only the bird had Irena’s Central Kalimantan.
only give thanks to the young people who
face. The only problem was that Irena had the courage to respond to the call, to
could not reach the invitation and the bird The people of Desa Serahong welcomed
Freeman, Peter, Hamilton and Marcus for
couldn’t reach her. us into their community and introduced us
bringing the Yes Quest into being and to
to their culture and beautiful natural envi-
almighty god for guiding us all on the
Irena was surrounded by family, friends, ronment. We shared in their ritual and
journey.
home and comforts. And as the dream con- ceremony, their dance and music, their
tinued, the things around her grew bigger food, their homes, their communal bath,
Marlena, Byron Bay, Australia

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 5


SECOND TALK TO MEMBERS
Ibu Rahayu’s talk in Christchurch, New Zealand, April 24 2004,
OH CHC 2: Final translation by Raymond Lee
Brothers and sisters, whom I love and re- This is why the latihan passes through one helper, that helper may not be able to un-
spect, good evening. Tonight, I will con- process after another. We call the first of derstand yet. Why? Because the helper is
tinue with my explanations, and what I say these: purification. So, to begin with, due just to help with the latihan. That helper is
to you tonight will be my last talk here in to the fact that you were born in this world not yet a true helper in the spiritual sense.
Christchurch. and that the first part of you to touch this Who is a true spiritual helper? Who can be
world was your physical body, your purifi- your teacher? God himself is inside you,
Brothers and sisters, as Subud members cation normally starts in the physical so we say that God is your teacher.
who have received the latihan, we are truly body; it is a physical purification. This
grateful that God has given this path to all physical purification can take many forms, I think I should explain once again about
of us. We are grateful because with the depending on what parts of you need to be the low forces that you have often read
latihan - once we receive this contact from purified. about. These are the material forces, the
the Power of God - we can be aware of, vegetable forces, the animal forces - what
and know, how God works inside a human We call this stage purification because, for we call the low forces. But there is also
being. But before this, we never even us to become human beings with a true the force we call the human force. Most of
hoped this was possible and we had no human nature, as God wishes, is no easy you still don't understand the human force
idea what was happening inside us, as task. This is because what you have in- and you think that if you have reached the
God’s creatures. side, both what you have inherited as well level of the human force you will be free
as the influences from your surroundings, from your desires. Not yet! Why not?
The truth is the Power of God is every- may not be truly your own. So purification It’s because the jasmani or the human
where, both inside and outside human be- is something that will be experienced and force, is still a low force.
ings. Perhaps you don't realise that God is is necessary for Subud members.
always close to human beings. But for What kind of force is the jasmani? Well,
Once the process of purification starts, our it governs the relationship between one
human beings, it is hard or difficult to ap-
soul will then continue to grow until it person and another. It is precisely this
proach God. Why is it said that we are far
penetrates our feelings and our senses. So force that can become a great obstacle to a
from God? It's because living in this
it is not only the physical body that is puri- human being. Of course, there is no limit
world we have become familiar with all
fied, the process also extends to our feel- to the different types of interaction be-
kinds of worldly conditions as well as
ings. tween people. For example when a person
states in our own being, where many dif-
dislikes or hates another, they are influ-
ferent forces act to form us as a human
But what's the point of this purification? enced by low forces.
being. This is the cause, the reason, why
our true self is far from the power of God. The aim is to create a space inside you, a
space where the power of Almighty God This is especially a problem in the rela-
can be. But if you are full, if there is no tionship between men and women. This
But it is not God's Will that we shouldn’t kind of relationship can be an obstacle in
make progress or that we can’t resolve the room - if you are like a glass of water that
is full of water, namely your desires - there your life. Why should this kind of rela-
problems we face in the world. God ex- tionship be an obstacle, brothers and sis-
pects us to be able to restrain ourselves, to is no space for the Power of God to oc-
cupy you. ters?
free ourselves and separate ourselves from
the powers that stem from the low forces - After all, it is God's Will that there are two
So by reducing your passions and desires,
our passions and desires. sexes, namely men and women. However,
by reducing all the things that soil you, the
Power of God can find a space inside you. the purpose is so that a man and a woman
That’s why in the latihan we are intro- will have a descendant, a child who can
We call this process: preparation. So now,
duced to our true self, so that we can be- raise them up, a child that is alive. A child
after years and years of doing latihan,
come aware of how it is that we are able to who has the capacity to raise you up, is a
many of you are at this stage of prepara-
live in this world. God Wills that we live child that is good, one that is better than
tion. Preparation means that if God wants
in this world, along with our passions and you are. But most of the time, relation-
you to, you will be able to understand or
desires, but it is not God's Will that these ships between men and women are still
receive something. Maybe you have al-
forces should dominate us. These forces governed by the urgings of the low forces.
ready received something, but you don't
are the life equipment that we need for this understand it yet. This is why some of
world so that we can adapt to the condi- I know it is hard for us to understand the
you have felt something enter you, but you
tions of this world. state that God intends for us. That’s why it
don't understand what it was yet. But, as
is very important in the latihan to surren-
your latihan progresses, it will give you
That’s why, while it seems extremely sim- der. To surrender doesn't mean to give up.
the understanding.
ple, the nature of the latihan is that it has No! To surrender means that you turn a
no limits. By no limits, I mean that it problem over to God and you pray to be
This kind of understanding does not come
never ends. This is because life – our spiri- given the path that is right for you. But if
from your mind, because anything that is
tual life – is not just lived here, but will you don't make an effort, God will not
received cannot be explained by the hu-
continue in the next world. As such Subud give you His Blessing or the path that is
man mind, yet spontaneously you will
is not a preparation for death. On the con- right for you.
understand what it means. That shows that
trary, our death is a bridge to life. So, for a new understanding has arisen inside you.
as long as God still permits you to live in This is the point, brothers and sisters, don't
this world, don’t waste your time; instead, think that because you are a human being
So the truth is, brothers and sisters, that on that you are a complete human being. If
develop and foster the soul inside you. this path there is no need in fact for help-
ers. What I mean is that if you ask a Continued on page 11.

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September 2004
Rochanawati

Editor Ilaina Lennard


Email: ilaine@subudvoice.net

“SHE CAN READ YOUR THOUGHTS”


Paula Blacking continues the story of her visit to Cilandak in 1964…

Ibu’s daughter’s name is When my brother Rainier Gebers visited How can I? I am desperate and I begin
Indonesia in 1957, Bapak talked to him to sob and sob and sob.
Rochanawati, but early on I about submission and surrender to God.
am told to call her M’bakju Rainier said that Bapak had said M’bakju comes to me with her infinite
(elder sister, and indeed, in every way, something to the effect that only if God patience. “Put your trust in God,” she
this is true). willed it, would Rochanawati be cured says. “God is all-powerful” and she says
from her cancer. further: “Repeat the name Allah, or God.
I am told that as a result of her This means God is all-powerful. Just go
exceptional faith and submission to That same night I mentioned earlier, on saying it. And when you see He has
Almighty God, she was granted the gift when I was sobbing my heart out, helped you, you will feel greater faith.”
of the ascension. From what I M’bakju said: “Come to Tshikini.” This
understand it to mean, she left her body is where she lives. “I will help you,” she I do as she says. For the present, it
and traversed the infinity of God’s said. doesn’t help at all! I have no idea then
universe. that she herself is suffering from an
She tells me that the first time she met incurable cancer and will die before I get
“You think this world is lovely,” me, she “knew” about me and more, but back to Java. She knows and Bapak
M’bakju said to me one day, “but I know she could not say more. I begin slowly knows.
the other world. It is far, far better.” to understand that her inner self is so
perfectly in tune as a result of her Bapak explains about Fiona
Although it sounded like a fairy-tale, I constant worship and sincere submission
never doubted that what she said was to God, that she is immediately sensitive I see Bapak for an interview. Prio is the
true. I listened to what she told me, not to others’ feelings. interpreter, and my brother Rainier is
incredulously, not disbelieving, but And this is naturally hard for her to bear. also present. I tell Bapak, I feel blame
simply accepting. In that sense, perhaps I because my faith and my latihans which I
was given grace. One day when Varindra is visiting, he had done with my little Fiona regularly
tells me how frightened he is of her, for three years in order to “heal her”, had
Thus her faith in God was unshakeable, because “she can read your thoughts”. not been sufficient to prevent her death.
and when she did die about two years
later, quietly, in the home where I had I am into my second week in Cilandak There was a belief in Subud at the time
stayed, I was told by my friends in and I find I cannot throw off this utter that the latihan could heal one. Eva
Cilandak that Bapak, sitting downstairs misery, this all-enveloping sadness, this Bartok, the famous actress, whom I had
on the verandah, said, “Ah, yes, M’bakju feeling of devastating hopelessness, this met at Coombe Springs, had been healed
has left us.” There were no tears. accompanying anger. I do not relate it at as a result of the latihan. The world
the time to my little daughter Fiona’s newspapers grabbed this story and talked
From my limited understanding, Bapak death. I do this much later. But M’bakju about the “healer”, Muhammad Subuh.
must have loved her dearly. She must knows all this with her exquisite insight.
have shared with him often, many, many I realise later, that this comes from her Healing was not the reason I had joined
things, which only Bapak knew about, absolute submission and worship of Subud. I had already been in Subud for
and could share with no one else alive. Almighty God. two years when Fiona became ill. But of
No wonder, that he always wanted her course Eva’s story lingered in all our
close to him in Cilandak. When the So, it is in the latihan, not socially, that minds.
cable came from Indonesia from my she says to me: “All this sadness and
friends/brothers in the secretariat it said anger must go, Paula. Ask God’s Bapak, in the interview, says I should not
that, “M’bakju has chosen the other life.” forgiveness. Submit to Him. Do not blame myself with my lack of faith. That
I didn’t know about choosing, I still think.” there was an imbalance between Fiona’s
don’t. All I knew was that I had lost the inner and outer. That he would pray that
dearest friend ever. She tells me to submit to God. How can
I? She tells me to ask God’s forgiveness. Continued on page 9.

INNER VOICE - September 2004 7


The Path of the Soul
A selection from Ibu Rahayu's 2nd Talk in Tokyo, Japan, on the morning of May 3rd 2004.
Recording: 04 TYO 02 - Provisional Podium Translation by Sharif Horthy

Answers to women's questions ..Now for example – even though we are that. .. And she said she understood that I
doing Latihan but still living in this was on a spiritual mission of my own and
Brothers and Sisters, I would like to start world – our Latihan will already have an that I was carrying out my responsibility
the program for this morning, which is influence on our ancestors. ..And they or my task. And she said 'this is for you.
questions and answers about the path of will be able to approach our Latihan. So This is not for me. So please go ahead.'
the soul…or the realm of the soul. if they come close ..when we are doing
Latihan, they will feel some peace or Another example was an experience of
..But I am of course a human being and coolness from the fact that we are doing my servant who had only recently been
therefore my answers may have Latihan. So although we may not be opened. And during her Latihan she was
shortcomings or may not be complete. .. aware of it – we are actually able to help running round chasing after something.
And I want to ask your forgiveness in our ancestors who wish to find a way to And afterwards she said that actually
case I cannot answer some things that God. So although they may not yet what she was doing was following her
you want to ask. have ..the spiritual contact that we have, mother. Because she saw her mother in
they can as it were follow us through our the Latihan and she was trying to follow
In particular I don't want to answer Latihan. But it may be that they are not her mother. In fact she hadn't been in
things that I haven't experienced for aware of us. Or it may be that we are not Subud long when this happened. And
myself. Because if it is something that I aware of them. Because the instruments after some time her mother disappeared
have not experienced then I will be that we use are of course very different in the darkness and she couldn't see her
answering from my human intelligence – from the instruments that they use when anymore. And she then cried because of
which means I will be giving you some they are already living in the other world. the feeling of loss after seeing her
kind of picture or image from my own mother.
imagination. And that will not be right. And this kind of reality – or this kind of
experience – is not something that we are So this is something…this is another
A secret of God able to theorise about or work out with proof for us that the life of our soul is not
our mind. Because it is beyond the ability limited to this world – that there is
Sharif: The first question is: Will we of our mind to grasp. That is the reason something beyond. But of course in a
after death be able to meet those who are why I cannot guarantee to you that when different condition. Because the
not opened while living in this world ? you have died you will meet people you instruments we have here are completely
would like to meet or who have died long different from the instruments that we
Sharif: (translates for Ibu) It is true that before you or something like that. It's will have over there. But nevertheless
if we are doing the Latihan – even impossible to know in advance. Apart there is still often a feeling of
though we are alive in this world – we from everything else – when you have connection – a feeling that connects us to
may be given an experience where we died you no longer have feelings of our relatives or whoever it is. And this
are ..given some introduction or an wanting or of missing somebody or of kind of experience …probably there are
experience of how will be our life after longing and things like that. That is all several of you who have also had these
death. This is something that can happen left behind. experiences in your Latihan.
if it is willed by God. And therefore it
may be that I'm able to give you a limited So what happens to you after you die has So this is all I can say in answer to your
amount of knowledge about …what to do …not with wanting or longing but question about whether we may be able
happens to us after death. to meet our relatives – or people who
with God's Will. If God Wills that you
experience something or you meet have gone before us – when we die. This
But the fact is that ..how we will live in is something…in other words…that we
somebody – or there is a particular need
the next world after we have died, is a simply have to leave to God. Because it
or a particular reason – then it can
secret of God. If it was not a secret ..
happen. is not our work. It is God's Work and we
everybody would already know it. The
have to surrender it to God...
fact is we do not. And if God keeps this a
secret then there is a reason for it. And Meeting my mother
The life of our soul
the reason is that actually with our
human nature – with our limitations as As an example I can give you one of the
experiences I had when I was on my Question: Is the soul of those who are
we are in this world – we are not strong
spiritual journey. Of course I was at that not opened eternal - the same as the soul
enough to bear…or to be able to carry
the knowledge of the things that God time…still living in this world. But in the of those who are opened ?
knows. In other words – we cannot while midst of this spiritual journey ...I was
living in this world…cope with…the rather shocked or surprised when Answer: Of course there is a difference
Greater Knowledge that is the suddenly there was this woman who in the two cases. And this is what I
Knowledge of God. came close to me. And she told me that explained last night. That we are very
she was my mother. Though at that time I fortunate through the Latihan that our
Sharif: ( I want to apologise – I left out didn't have any feeling of wanting to jiwa is awakened and is given the
something.) Ibu said that this is a secret meet my mother or of looking for my opportunity to wake up and grow and be
of God and, as I said, people generally do mother – it so happened that we were purified and come to life.
not know it. And for us to know it – for given this opportunity.
us who do the Latihan – we have to do This is something that makes a big
the Latihan for a long, long time before And I asked her 'who are you ?' And she difference. Because from this life we
maybe God will give us a taste or some said 'I'm your mother'. But we only spoke already experience the life of our soul.
experience about what life after death what was necessary. We didn't then
will be like. embrace and kiss each other and all Continued on page 9.

8 INNER VOICE - September 2004


it is so easy that people outside Subud
About those who have not been opened .. often don't believe it. And they think
what we do has something to with
hypnotism or spiritism or something like
Continued from page 8. that.
has remained of this Grace that God has
given to His Messengers in the past ?
In the case of people who have not been So this is why it is very important that in
opened and have not yet received this Subud we have testing so that you can
Well – this is something we can only
contact with God's Power – of course it is confirm these things for yourself. You
leave to God. We cannot know for
different. They…of course everyone has can confirm the reality of this for
certain to what extent this has come
a soul. Because every creature has a soul. yourself. Through your own experience.
down to other people through their
But in their case this soul is…it's like religions. But we can see that the
asleep or dormant during their life in this So testing is really very important
evidence is as time has gone on - because
world. because it is your own experience. So if
these Messengers of God lived a very
you don't believe in what you receive in
long time ago - that the extent to which
When someone like that dies, then of the testing it means you don't believe in
people are able to pass down through the
course…at that moment their jiwa will yourself. Because the experience comes
generations this Gift, is very limited due
awake…and will live. But it will be life through your own self.
to the fact of our worldly needs and the
like what we experience when we are pressure of living in this world. There is
first opened. It will be a sort of Asking God’s forgiveness
strong evidence that this ability to
preliminary kind of life. It will be new – receive has become less and less as
it will be a first taste of life. Because Sharif: The question (to Ibu) was 'if we
generations have progressed.
what the situation at that moment will be ask forgiveness from God - and assuming
[is] that the soul will be still in a state that God gives it – how can we perceive
So it is clear that in today's modern world
where it is encapsulated or trapped in God's forgiveness as a reality ?'
Bapak was able to receive…without
these lower forces which have been looking for it and without wanting it…
ruling over it in this world. So they are Ibu said – you cannot ask God for proof
Bapak was given God's Grace and was
not yet free…the soul will not yet be free in this matter because we simply have to
able to receive God's grace in the form of
to grow. So it still has to go through the surrender it to God. In other words when
the Latihan. And he was able to pass it
process of freeing itself from these we ask God for forgiveness we simply
on to all of you today. And for that
forces. surrender to God whether He will forgive
reason Subud is able to receive the
us or not. And we cannot demand proof
members of any religion, providing they
So to continue answering this question – or expect some kind of guarantee.. So
believe in God's Power.
does that mean then that only Subud you have to remember that God is not
people can experience this development our servant. We cannot order God to fit
..So Subud is simply the practical
of the soul during their life-time in this in with our requirements.
application of what was received in those
world ? religions at the very beginning where the
Sharif: Ibu also said something else that
Power of God that is within us - which is
Well – one would think not. Because we she would like me to translate, and that
the life that is within us - is touched or
know that God has given His Grace to is: that when we make a mistake we ask
contacted by the Great Power that
Messengers in the past who received this for forgiveness. Asking forgiveness
envelops the whole Universe. Because
experience and who were able to pass on implies surrender. So we don't demand
we need to understand that we get life
this to their followers. But the question that God forgives us. For our wish for
not from our parents but from God. And
is – to what extent were they able to pass forgiveness to be received we have to
we are able to pass this on in Subud
this on to their followers ? And to what surrender. If we demand forgiveness it
through the opening. But this can only be
extent has it come down to the followers will not get to God.
done through somebody who has already
of the present day ? In other words what received it before. And the way of doing

Paula Blacking remembers... LAST, and of course a hopeless blood with my friend, kept vigil with her that
transfusion. Then an oxygen tent was night. How, in the early hours of the
erected. morning, I started the latihan and felt
Continued from page 7. stretched very high.
“Do the latihan,” Fiona said, which my
God would grant me another child whose Subud friend and I promptly did. I crept “Yes,” says Bapak, “that happened when
inner would be better balanced, and that I into the oxygen tent to assist her to her soul, already very high, touched
may experience a “death” when the child breathe. Then she said: “Go now.” yours’.”
is conceived. This I understood to be her farewell and
that she needed to be on her own. I did Then Bapak continues: “She is now the
I explain the last months of Fiona’s as she said and soon it was all over. responsibility of God.” He says I must no
illness. How several months before she longer dwell on it. But because she died
died, when the blood count was normal, The phone rang. It was a musician, who when she was so small (she was 4½) my
even then, she had told a friend that she has been struggling to finish a latihan would help her. And that it was
would die. How aghast I had been. And composition. Fiona had appeared to him. good that I had come to Indonesia.
how several weeks before she died, also “Is she alright?” he asked.
when she was quite well, she had told her All this time, during the interview with
older sister, Jessica, that she “would go In the interview Bapak says: “All you Bapak, I felt (and I had this same feeling
to heaven, because it is too hard here”. say is true. Her inner knew she was several times again over the years), that
Again I was shocked. dying. And that is why she also the Bapak we saw and talked with,
appeared to your friend.” wasn’t there at all. A most definite
On the last day when things were frantic, feeling that Bapak, the man, was absent.
we were at home. A nurse was present, I have a need to tell Bapak everything.
also a doctor and we were trying a So I go on and tell him how I, together

INNER VOICE - September 2004 9


53 Such are the effects on the human
The Nature of Plants self of the power in plant life. That is
why people are very easily swayed by
Bapak explains more about the nature of plants..act that force, which can lead to their
from SUSILA BUDHI DHARMA downfall from their status as noble
creatures who, in reality, should be the
32 Now, having completed the content to stay where they were born, mainstay of all the creatures on earth.
explanation of how the vegetable forces pleased to live simply and to accept
act on humankind, it is best immediately whatever lot befalls them. 54 Being so easily swayed this way and
to follow this by analysing some plants that by these companions, they can no
one by one. This is necessary in order 43 Thus, eating such food has so longer find the way to fulfil their
that their nature may be understood more affected people’s feelings that they lack commitment to become the teachers of
fully. the capacity to project those feelings all other creatures.
beyond rural life.
33 Take first, as an example, the 55 They should be able to open the way
characteristics of the food called rice. 44 Fortunately, villagers can also feed for these forces within themselves to
Coming from plants grown in paddy on other fare, such as coconut milk and meet their counterparts and enable them
fields, it is the staple food and everyday bamboo shoots – bamboo at a very early to live a sublime life after death.
necessity for many people. stage of its growth – which are used for
seasoning and flavouring, and come from 56 On the face of it, this idea cannot
34 Paddy is a plant that grows in fields the coconut palm and the bamboo cane. possibly be justified, for it is beyond
filled with water, and it needs a great belief that mere plants could have such
amount of water to thrive. Its stalk is 45 Coconut palms can grow anywhere opinions, since they lack minds and there
slender but fairly long and, besides being and without attention, even when is nothing to show that they are capable
hollow, is jointed. It is short-lived, for it surrounded by other vegetation. Their of considering the problems of their life.
ripens fast. trunks are thick and tall, straight and
strong, and branchless. The coconuts 57 That way of thinking is indeed
35 Since, first and foremost, paddy grow at the top of the tree, which bears tenable, when based simply on what the
needs a lot of water, the influence of the them almost without pause. mind knows; but for you, who have had
force of food derived from it makes some experience of your individuality, an
people who eat it unable to withstand 4 So those influenced by them may have opinion like this is not confirmed by your
suffering easily. They just expect to be not only the characteristics mentioned inner feeling.
given quick satisfaction and a sufficiency earlier, but also a broad outlook and great
for their life, and lack the spirit to exert self-reliance, even when conditions of 58 So, in fact, if you fail to order your
themselves to raise their standard of life are disorganised. They may also have life in the right way, you will not escape
living. firmly rooted opinions that are not and will really feel the ill effects this has
readily swayed by other people, and they on your life.
36 Also, their opinions waver, and they are not easily caught by life’s
have no wish to try to broaden their temptations. 59 In general, then, villagers’ feelings
outlook on life. vary little from those mentioned. Usually
47 Furthermore, the position of the fruit these people are content to give way and
37 Rather, if help does not come their and the almost continuous bearing of accept whatever befalls them. This sort
way in life, their feeling is just to put up fruit signify that those who eat it like to of attitude is in fact very praiseworthy if
with things and be left to their lot, simply store away the fruits of their skill and it comes from the human inner feeling,
accepting it, lowly and wretched though knowledge, to stop other people having but if not – that is to say, if it arises
their circumstances may be. access to them. At times, however, if merely from the pressure of the forces of
somebody really wins their confidence, plant life and matter – then this
38 The long, slim stalk of the rice plant they will share with them quite willingness to give in and to put up with
is like a sign that these people, besides unreservedly. whatever happens will only lead them
feeling insecure, will always have a sense astray.
of futility in whatever steps they take, so 48 Other food comes from the bamboo
their hearts will easily become weak- cane, which has a rather slim, long, 60 That is why many villagers always
willed and narrow. straight and pliable stem; it is hollow, live in poor conditions. Easily deceived
divided into sections, and covered with by shrewder people, they are unable to
39 The hollow and jointed nature of the prickly hairs that deter anyone who live free and independent lives, but are
stalk means that those under this wants to touch it. subject throughout their whole life to the
influence are emotionally very simple, will of others who are astute enough to
and are apt to let other people know 49 This food broadens people’s outlook; manipulate them. So however
whatever is on their mind; it causes their but in that breadth of view they often feel painstakingly they work, they reap little
will to be disjointed, which means they indecisive, because they lack the strength benefit for themselves, the profit falling
are always undecided about what they to stand up to the constant pressure of almost entirely to those who know how
want. circumstances. to exploit them.

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IBU RAHAYU’S TALK ceive something from the Power of God, Well, if I were to continue, there would be
Continued from page 6. we have to leave behind the low forces – no end to the explanations about this spiri-
the material forces, the vegetable forces, tual path. In fact, all this can be found in
you're not complete yet, you can be easily the animal forces and so on. Only then Bapak’s talks. However, when we come
misled, or influenced by other people; be- can we receive it. to read them, if we try to read them using
cause your true self is not complete, it's not our mind, if we try to understand them
firm. This kind of receiving is so that you can be with our mind, it’s very hard. But by fol-
a witness. To witness God’s Power that lowing the path of the latihan, little by
Brothers and sisters, when we say that this God is truly All-Powerful, that God truly little, you will be able to understand what
spiritual path is simple, it is! Yet it is dif- exists. And some of you who have done Bapak means in those talks. These talks
ficult to think about. If God wishes to give latihan for a long time have experienced are Bapak’s receiving that he was given
something to you, then no matter when- this. for you. So nobody told Bapak those
ever or wherever you are, you will receive things.
it. But if it is not the time yet to receive This is why we need to hold kejiwaan
something, don’t feel resentful or bored. gatherings. The purpose of a kejiwaan So if somebody tries to simplify or reinter-
Feelings of boredom and resentment come gathering is not for you to boast or show pret Bapak’s talks to make them easier to
from the low forces, low forces that tempt off to each other. We cannot analyse the understand, the result may be that it actu-
you. But if the time comes when God path of the soul with our mind and neither ally deviates from the true meaning God
wants to give you His Grace, regardless of can we debate it. However, by having a gave to humankind. Some people intend
whatever you are doing - whether you are feeling of harmony, by talking about to make the talks simpler to understand,
sitting, or whether you are asleep or just things together, by getting to know about and to them it looks like the talks they
lying around, you will receive it. each other's experiences, you will get the modify are easier to understand, but their
energy or motivation to continue to look modification reduces the true content of
At this point, I want to explain in more for what you seek. the talk.
depth about receiving, because many
Subud members are too quick to say “I just So, brothers and sisters, don't feel satisfied That’s all brothers and sisters, for tonight,
received this. I received that.” Well, I'm just to make movements in latihan. Move- I think this is enough. Should we set aside
not saying this is wrong, because indeed ment isn’t enough. What do your move- time for questions? Okay, with respect to
they feel they received something, but this ments mean? You have to find that out for this talk, I will finish now, but I will give
is what I want to explain more about. yourself. you an opportunity to ask questions, be-
cause tonight is the last night. Ask about
It's true, that the latihan is a receiving. The For instance, you feel sad, but why do you anything you have received in the latihan,
first time we experienced this receiving feel sad? How can you get rid of your but not about personal problems. So I will
was when we were opened. Why do we sadness? That's why, when I test with you, make time now to answer your questions,
call it: receiving? It's because what I say: How is it when you are sad? And, but because the path of the latihan is very
touched you inside, what touched your How can you get rid of your sadness and, broad there may be questions that I can't
soul, was the Power of God and not an- How is it you when you're happy? When answer. If you have questions, I will make
other human being. When a helper opens you feel happy you are open. time for them now.
someone, it is not the helper that does the
opening, but the Power that is in that But if you despair, or you are depressed, Questions and Answers following Ibu’s
helper, that is the Power of God, not the you won't know where to go or what direc- Talk
power of the helper. Because the helper tion to take. You want to find God, but
has received the contact, he or she can in where is God? God is everywhere. Even Question: What’s the purpose of receiving
turn touch other people when in a state of inside you, God is there. There’s no need something if we can’t understand it?
surrender and trust in Almighty God. This to go to some isolated spot to look for
is a receiving, a receiving that opens you. God. Look inside yourself, and pray to Ibu: That’s not what I mean by a receiving
God to help you. - that is just the contact. It’s still....well,
Doing latihan is also a form of receiving, the soul is alive and it is as if the soul
but it is your receiving in latihan, it is the So clearly, what we call receiving is only moves around inside you so, in fact it is
process of your purification and prepara- receiving that you have received from your not a receiving. What I mean by receiving
tion. self in your feelings. That’s why members is when God gives something to you. God
often ask, “Why was my receiving may give you advice, or something that
But a time can come, when you have pro- wrong?” While another will say, “Well, you need.
gressed far enough in the latihan that the my receiving has turned out to be right.”
receiving will be specifically meant for Clearly, if it is not right, if it wrong, it is Question: What does it mean when we
you. However, if you are not prepared you still mixed in with influences from the low bump into people in the latihan? What
will not be able to receive it. Why not? forces, the low forces that make up your should one do if you don’t feel surrendered
Because you are not in the state that is feelings. enough to move freely because you are
ready, you're still cloaked by passions and afraid to bump into someone else – so he
desires. Part of you has still to be touched This is why it is wrong for us to say, “My cannot surrender fully because he is afraid
by the life of your soul. For instance, sup- receiving is right, your receiving is to bump into someone else.
pose God whispers something in your ear, wrong." It is not certain who is right and
but if your ear is not ready, if it is not who is wrong. That’s still a question. So Ibu: Well, it's just an accident. But, if your
alive, then that receiving will not reach at a kejiwaan gathering, we must not latihan truly comes from inside, then when
you. claim, “My receiving is closer to the truth, you are about to bump into someone you
my receiving is better!” Try to feel to- will feel it and you will move away. But if
But there is also receiving that is specifi- gether, what is correct. If you do this, you we're still a state where...well if we do
cally meant for that person once that per- will not only educate other members, you latihan together and we are not united, we
son has been able to set aside their low will also teach yourself to be a better are in a state of confusion, then we will
forces. Well, we can't know when we helper, so that we know that truth is in
have set aside our low forces, or when we God's hands. Continued on page 12.
have put aside the low forces. But to re-

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 11


IBU RAHAYU’S TALK Question: How does one know whether a I’m supposed to be looking for; is it my
Continued from page 11. dream is a true receiving or just a dream? jiwa, my real self?
I won't describe the four dreams I’ve had,
bump into each other. Each person follows but at the end of the dream I had the ex- Ibu: This is just an indication or a sign that
their own way and two people may both perience of seeing Bapak and a very rich the wall or block of your emotions should
want to go in the same direction. But if our ornate building that seemed tropical in be put aside. So, it's just a sign. It is a type
latihan is truly moved from inside then nature. The dream had great meaning for of receiving, but it’s something that you
when you bump into someone it doesn't me and it has been very vivid and remains receive from your own self. It’s a kind of
matter. In fact, it is the helpers’ responsi- with me for years. But how does one know help or assistance from the latihan. Assis-
bility to handle this. When you do latihan, if it is a true receiving, or an extraordinary tance can come to us in many forms - such
you must feel free to move and you dream? as the ruh al-qudus. God sometimes gives
shouldn't restrain yourself. There’s no people help from an external source and
need to be afraid of bumping into some- Ibu: Well, the truth is that a dream is not that is the working of the ruh al-qudus.
one, or afraid to make too much noise. 100% a receiving. What I mean by a re- But if we find our way from our own
There is no need. You have to let go! But ceiving is something that happens when awareness, that is guidance from within,
don't hit other people in latihan, don't do you are in a conscious and in a normal from the ruh ilafi.
that! state. A dream happens when you are
asleep, that’s why I said it is not 100%. Question: Where is Bapak now?
Question: I just want to ask: before we do Sometimes a dream is just a sign, a pic-
latihan should we ask God or something ture. A sign that is just to show you that Ibu: You have to find out for yourself.
before we start, or pray, do you know what Bapak is still alive. Although Bapak is Each of us may find that Bapak is every-
I mean? dead, he is still present, he is still working, where - a member may think that Bapak is
and he still helps Subud members, so you over there, but another says Bapak is here.
Ibu: Yes, ask God to accompany your lati- get a sign. But what I was explaining yes- So I can't tell you where Bapak is. The life
han and to guide you. This is necessary terday about receiving is something that of the soul is different from life here and
because some people arrive at latihan full we receive when we are in conscious state we can’t say whether the soul is here or
of emotion - perhaps you had a fight at and we are fully aware of everything that there. That’s why for instance, somebody
home, or you left home feeling bad. But happens to us. It's not a dream. says “Oh, I feel my soul is close to Bapak”
when you get to the latihan you must put and somebody else in America will say, “I
all that aside by asking God to guide you – Question: Could Ibu say something about did latihan with Bapak.” I can't tell you
that’s what you need to do, then your prihatin? whether Bapak is in America, or whether
movements will be preceded by an inner Bapak is here. Bapak’s soul is alive, and it
movement and not preceded by something Ibu: Well, practising prihatin (asceticism) is very broad.
else. is not part of our spiritual training. Pri-
hatin is to train yourself, to train yourself Question: Can only Subud members re-
Question: Sometimes people ask me what to achieve what you are hoping for. That’s ceive the latihan?
happens when they feel they are picking up prihatin, but it is not part of the latihan.
in latihan how other people are feeling - It’s more of a physical training. But be- Ibu: There are others, but only people who
how they are sad or how they are feeling - cause we are in Subud, it can sometimes are truly blessed by Almighty God. It's
and asked what they should do about this? help, it can help us set aside or reduce our possible that God did not just give God’s
I would like to hear something about that. desires. Blessing to Bapak, but also to other peo-
ple. Yes, it's possible.
Ibu: Well, when your latihan truly comes Question: The question is about the spread
from inside, other people will have no ef- of Subud in the Middle East where people Question: If I can ask you about the ruh
fect on you. Each of you will be protected follow Islam. They are Muslims, and on ilafi and ruh-al-kudus. My understanding
in your latihan, so you won't be affected by the whole they don’t like Subud – but they of the ruh ilafi is that it is completely out
other people. really need the latihan. Does Ibu have any of our hands and whatever help Almighty
comments? God gives us comes by itself. But as for the
Question: I have been opened for about ruh-al-kudus, it is valid to ask that for any
three years now, and there's been a few Ibu: Well, we can't force this. Subud de- endeavour that one might do, that one has
occasions when people who have been velops according to God's Will. We can't the help through the ruh-al-kudus.
recently opened and aren't feeling much or second-guess how it will develop. For
having trouble surrendering have come to instance, we never thought that it could Ibu: Well, help from God that comes
me for help, instead of the helpers, be- spread in Russia, but suddenly it hap- from the ruh al-qudus is granted only if
cause they didn't feel comfortable going to pened. It can only happen if it is God's God Wills, and the help that comes from
the helpers - with the age gap and so on Will. Well, we hope it can happen, but it inside you is also only by God's Will, that
and so forth. I'm just wondering, in these has to be from their will. If they truly want is from the ruh ilafi. So, whether help
situations, if I should just say no and pass to follow Subud, there will be a way for it comes or not depends on God’s Will. We
them on to the helpers and say that they to spread. But, if they are still closed to it, cannot order God. If we could it would be
are the ones you should really be talking there's nothing we can do. easy. For example, somebody has an acci-
to, or, if I should try and impart what little dent in a car and that person miraculously
knowledge I have of the latihan? Question: This didn’t happen in the lati- escapes. That is a Grace from God; the ruh
han, it was actually in the car park. I was al-qudus helped that person. Help from
Ibu: Well, it depends on the individual. If feeling very upset, and I could feel the feel- inside comes from the ruh ilafi, so some-
you feel confident in yourself then there is ing of the emotion, and especially some of thing that is right will be guided by God,
no need to ask others. You can answer the forces, and there was this column just but if it is something that is wrong, then it
questions as long as your explanation is going up like that – or maybe coming won’t be guided by the ruh ilafi .
based on what you have received, and not down, I am not sure which. Anyway, sud-
something you made up. You must answer denly there was this column, and I wasn’t
upset anymore. I could feel the upset try- Continued on page 14.
from your own experience.
ing or wanting to stay. Is this column what

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CRUNCH TIME FOR CULTURAL PROJECT
Funding for the VITALIZATION AND sia. When he saw Ibu Rahayu she
EMPOWERMENT OF CULTURE IN looked at him and said “Kalimantan?”
CENTRAL KALIMANTAN – CONFLICT
PREVENTION AND THE ARTS PRO- So he went to see what was possible.
JECT will be provided by the Indonesian He first met with the University of
government through a loan from the World Palangkaraya to investigate the kinds
Bank. of arts programs they had. And he
found that though they had a Fine Arts
But the World Bank won’t release the program in theory, there wasn’t any-
funds until the initiators and consultants to thing there, no classes or capable Fac-
the project have their first year salaries ulty.
secured. Currently more than half of those
funds have been committed by the Ford It took but one week to sign a Memo-
Foundation and the Muhammad Subuh randum of Understanding with the Uni-
Foundation. versity under the auspices of SICA,
with Bachtiar Lorot then SICA chair
Below is an interview of Riduan Tomkins Riduan Tomkins and Simon Dick.
lending his support and blessing. The
and Simon Dick by Manuel Oliver regard- idea was for Riduan to be an artist in
ing the project and the funding situation.. begin to work among the existing com- residence there with all that entails,
munity groups in the area. teaching and lecturing, having working
A couple of months ago I sat down with space, etc...
Simon Dick and Riduan Tomkins in Ja- The concept and the project proposal
karta to interview them concerning their itself grew organically from contacts Riduan explains his conception of his
social project: Visualization and Empow- with the community and with their input. role with the University , “I’m thor-
erment of culture in Central Kalimantan — oughly institutionalized. The artist as
Conflict Prevention & the Arts. Additionally, Christina Kreps, an anthro- scholar is a concept which the Japanese
pologist and Museumologist from the understand…”
Their Project is at an important stage as University of Denver who did her doc-
they are prepared to accept World Bank toral research in Palangkaraya has given “It has to be tangible: lecturer, re-
funding in a few months (The disbursal of valuable input and will continue as an search, work, teaching… the museum
the funds was scheduled for August 04 advisor as will Indonesian professionals. gives space so context is provided and
but the elections in Indonesia have delayed they have better facilities than the Uni-
it). Essentially the aim is to help all the peo- versity”.
ple of the area to be more aware of their
Through two long years of discussions, the unity rather than their differences. Focus- Meanwhile Simon was living in Jakarta
World Bank has convinced the Indonesian ing on the Madura incident in 2000 and giving tours. He had followed his
government that Simon and Riduan’s pro- would be a mistake. It is still too sensi- wife to Jakarta as she was principal of
ject perfectly dovetails with the cultural tive. the flourishing school in Wisma
program the World Bank would like to see Subud.
advanced in Indonesia. However promoting harmony through
cultural activities and seeking compatible He started organizing tours of Indone-
The World Bank sees the project as a conflict resolution methods is essential. sia prior to the Bali World Congress in
model for what they hope to see imple- It is these issues that brought the World 2001. From those successes he started
mented in other provinces in Indonesia. Bank’s interest to Central Kalimantan. to do the same thing in Kalimantan,
specifically going up river to see the
Central Kalimantan is one of four Indone- Key activities of the project involve in- rain forest and to see the Dayak long
sian provinces on the island of Borneo, its terchanges between the cultures of the houses and other aspects of their tradi-
capital city is Palangkaraya. The Subud area and dialogue within the groups, us- tional culture.
land at Rungan Sari is 36 km north of the ing cultural and artistic performances to
city. facilitate mutual expressions of culture An interest in the rapidly changing
and values. culture naturally followed. During the
The poorest province in Kalimantan, Cen- months following the uprising of some
tral Kalimantan is home to dozens of eth- The Provincial Museum of Central Kali- Dayaks which led to the forced evacua-
nicities from the various islands in the In- mantan will be a central venue for exhib- tion of thousands of Madurese transmi-
donesian archipelago as well as many sub- iting cultural displays and fostering inter- grants, discussion concerning Dayak
groups of Dayaks, the original inhabitants actions. The development of a fine arts culture and its direction were very cur-
of the island. program at the University of Palang- rent topics.
karaya is likewise central to the program.
And as many will remember there was a Riduan suggested that Simon operate
disastrous conflict between the Dayaks It started with a very “Subud” experience tours through the museum, as the mu-
and the Madurese in 2000. Riduan recalls. Three years ago he had seum’s mission is to serve as a cultural
just recently arrived in Jakarta and was showcase for the province. This ulti-
Their project emphasizes strengthening the doing Ramadan. He had an experience mately is how Simon came on board.
society’s own ability to enhance the cohe- about Kalimantan that prompted him to
siveness of the communities in the area. go there. This was coupled with an ex- Continued on page 14.
Their target is the city of Palangkaraya and perience when he first arrived in Indone-
all of its surrounding villages. They will

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 13


KALIMANTAN PROJECT IBU RAHAYU’S TALK within. We have been touched by the cur-
Continued from page 13. Continued from page 12. rent. And because of that, yes, sometimes
it is so gentle it makes us feel we want to
Question: My wife and I sometimes feel cry, or we feel happy, that is also the vi-
Simon first went to Kalimantan in the bration.
80s, to Tewa to implement a rice grow- when we go to the group and we have a
ing project designed by Luqman Leckie gathering after the latihan that when we
get home we feel tired and we have to Question: Sometimes when I do my lati-
and Sharifin Gardiner using an irrigation han, I find that I can't stop thinking and
system the Russians had begun and aban- sleep for a couple of hours. We were won-
dering if that's just a natural consequence my head just won’t shut up. Is there any-
doned. thing that I can do to turn it off?
doing the latihan and being with Subud
Bapak once asked him if he wanted to be people. Is this is a common experience?
It seems to happen when we stay on after Ibu: The fact is, if the latihan truly starts
a pioneer in Kalimantan. At that time his from within, your thinking will stop by
answer was no. But he and his wife latihan.
itself, so you don't need to try to stop it. In
Salamah find themselves among the few fact if you try to think, you can’t. So,
who are involved in increasing Subud’s Ibu: Yes, it happens because of sharing -
sharing feelings, sharing experiences, and when you are about to do latihan, don’t
presence there. start too quickly. Wait first and be quiet
sharing emotions. When there are many
people around, all kinds of things go on, until you feel the vibration I spoke of ear-
The project has been endorsed by the lier. Wait until something comes from in-
Governor of Central Kalimantan and people normally talk about their problems,
and this can be a burden. So, the answer is: side. If your latihan starts from within,
embraced by the community. The your thinking cannot work anymore.
planned ethno-botanical garden is an yes. In fact, if you can, do latihan by
example. yourself at home so that whatever affected
you will quickly go away. I think this is enough for tonight. Thank
you, and see you tomorrow.
Illene Pevec, who has experience in de-
veloping such gardens, initially sug- Question: I’ve been doing latihan for a
gested it and when it was passed on as a number of years, and just recently became
possibility to the community Pak Bajik, a a helper in the group here. I've noticed a
trend with my own latihan becoming more
THAI ISLAND
shaman of the Dayak original beliefs
enthusiastically adopted the program. strained and less easy. I am just wonder-
ing if that's related to testing other peo-
HIDEAWAY
Riduan and Simon use the term “Cultural ple's problems. When I'm doing testing it
Phangan Island, dark green with virgin
Collective” to describe what they are is very intense, but I’ve noticed a decrease
tropical forest, floats in the Gulf of Thai-
doing. in my own latihan. I'm wondering if that's
land, on the opposite side of the southern
a natural progression, or just the ups and
peninsula from Phuket. Here on the cliffs
The Botanical garden is obvious due to downs in my latihan, or if it could be re-
overlooking wineglass-shaped Thansadet
the enormous biodiversity, which is be- lated to the fact that I'm doing lots of test-
Bay, which is fed by a spectacular water-
ing encroached on by the illegal logging ing?
fall, Sofjan (Jo) Vogel has 9 double-bed
happening in the province. and twin-bed bungalows looking out to
Ibu: Yes, that’s just the normal up-and-
sea.
The World Bank will provide funding for down of your latihan. Sometimes it feels
the project by a loan to the Indonesian like that, and at other times you feel a
They cost from only $5 US a night, with a
government. strong spirit, or current. People don’t feel
discount for Subud members and longer
a strong latihan all the time. It goes up-
stays. There are fresh seafood, fruits and
However, the Indonesians will not pay and-down in intensity. That’s okay, that's
vegetables a-plenty, so come to indulge
for foreign consulting fees thus Simon normal. Well, when you do latihan you
yourselves, cheaply.
and Riduan are obligated to find the can ask God, so that you will also make
funds before the funds are disbursed. progress. Then you won’t feel that you just
A comfortable overnight sleeper train ride
do latihan to help other people, but you
from Bangkok then a two-hour ferry cross-
Currently more than half of the consult- also do latihan to help yourself.
ing will get you there.
ing fees/salaries for Riduan and Simon
have been raised through the Ford Foun- Question: Bapak often spoke of the vibra-
Please email your booking to Jo at
dation and MSF. tions of the latihan, could Ibu speak about
gogetjo@hotmail.com or call him on
that?
6692185591, and he will meet you at the
The project has evolved organically, harbour.
from their experiences and not from any Ibu: Well, the vibration will vary, so
theory about why they should be there or sometimes when we do latihan, our latihan
seems ordinary, because the vibration that
what they should be doing.
we feel has spread all over us. Well, when THE LATEST
we were opened we really felt the vibra-
The project foremost, though, is exciting.
tion because it was new, so we were star- SLANG
The multi cultural activities and festivals tled by it. But once we have grown accus-
which will be the force that promotes tomed to it, and the vibration has spread In order to appear to be modern we sug-
harmony among the ethnic groups will all over us, we don't feel it any more. That gest you adopt the following expression,
be up-beat for the community and fun. said, sometimes we feel it like an electric “We’re on the same page.”
shock. If we feel the current, yes - then we
(Individuals who wish to receive a copy feel like we're the only person there, we You can use this in place of old-fashioned
of the proposal and a summary of the feel that we are no longer standing on the sayings such as “I know what you mean”
activities planned may contact ground, or we feel like crying. That means or “I understand what you are saying”. Just
simond2@cbn.net.id or we have been touched from within. If we repeat in a breezy, confident manner, “We
riduant@cbn.net.id ) feel that, it’s a vibration and that vibration are on the same page” and people will
means that we have been touched from think you are very modern.

14 SUBUD VOICE - September 2004


AN IDEA OF SICA
SICA stands for the Subud International title of Human (capital H) life and culture? were importing, that I wanted to make
Cultural Association, and I have always Add all the crime, and the violence, and some simple films with a good moral end-
loved its shortened name for two reasons. the moral break-down of society - and, ing, showing good family life, and that
The first is because you pronounce it well, it all adds up to the fact that the sort of thing.” So she did!
“seeker” - and that after all is what Subud world is in rather a mess. Another ‘Dark
is all about. We are seekers, seeking Age’ perhaps. And no one seems to know And there’s Rachmat Fisher in Indonesia
through our creative work to bring about a where to go, or how to change it. who is writing A Holistic History (of the
better life - the will of God - in our lives world, no less).
and in the world. So what’s needed now is a new Renais-
sance! The re-birth of an authentically This, he says, is “An attempt to find a
And secondly, because the purpose of Human culture. And this is what SICA is voice for human history that is not nation-
SICA is to usher in a second Renaissance. all about. alistic or ethnocentric”. There’s quite a lot
of this ‘work in process’ done already, and
The first Renaissance came about when We - those of us who are creating and you can read it at
people, individuals, began to think for working for a new and more humane cul- www.geocities.com/rachmatfisher
themselves - and not just swallow what- ture - are seeking to bring about a new re-
ever their religion told them. It ended visioning of the whole of human life. It’s The world needs more creative people like
what history calls ‘The Middle Ages’ and a big order, and we SICA people are small Sandya, and Rachmat, who are helping to
even ‘the Dark Ages’. individuals. But I suspect we are more create a more positive vision of real hu-
effective than we know. man life, through real human values. This,
Today, some four or five hundred years to me is what SICA is all about - people
after that amazing flowering of human I can quote you umpteen examples of what who are seeking to create a better, a more
culture, modern life is stuck in a material- SICA people are doing, but perhaps two in fully Human life not just for themselves
istic - a sub-human - worldview. And our Zone is enough. One of the best - that but for others, too. In short, a second Ren-
when you look at ordinary life - with all its is, most creative, and most socially benefi- aissance!
stresses, the constant struggle to earn cial - is what our sister Sandya is doing in
enough to live, let alone all the environ- Sri Lanka. What she said to me was, “I Salamah Pope, SICA Rep, Zones 1-2,
mental problems - does this deserve the got so fed up with all the awful films we salamah@ozemail.com.au

REMEMBERING MICHAEL BRUCE


Dominic Rieu remembers Michael was far from being bellicose; he invariably
Bruce… treated other people, both men and
women, with friendly courtesy and inter-
Michael died on Sunday June 27th of an est. Not surprisingly a great number came
aneurysm, perhaps precipitated by inten- to his funeral.
sive hard work. He fell in his office and
was found there in the evening. It was a pleasure to see Michael and Ellen
with their children. He obviously adored
His body was taken away and returned to them and they, as obviously, adored him.
his family to have him with them for a
day, and then taken to the Slough Crema- One would expect a man like him to find a
torium for the funeral on July 6th. His wife like her, and for them to have chil-
wife, Ellen has asked me to write some- dren like Catherine, Edgar and Leanne.
thing about him for this publication.
The funeral was deeply moving. As the
I first met the Bruces in Windsor when first chord of the hymn ‘The Lord is my
they were members of All Saints Church Shepherd’ burst out at least one of the
and also in Subud at the time of the congregation was visibly sobbing and un-
Anugraha venture, and have kept in touch able to sing much.
while living in Windsor.
His brother gave a lengthy account of Mi- Hamlet the Prince of Denmark at his
Michael was a man of astonishingly good chael’s life, and his son Edgar, looking death: “Good night, sweet Prince, and
looks and when he entered a room one was like the head boy or prefect of a good flights of angels sing thee to thy rest”.
aware of a sense of authority and power. school, gave a very brief, deeply felt but
controlled talk, just what we needed. We pray for Ellen, she has taken the shock
I once amused Ellen when I told her he so well. May she come to feel less grief
appeared to me like a bison, one who After that we stayed talking with the because Michael is still with her.
would have no difficulty in roughing up Bruces and each other, then drove off for
another bison or other jungle animal who refreshments in a smart hotel. Of one thing we can be certain – she and
crossed his path. her family will continue to be a boon to
At this untimely death of so splendid a those around them, and she will continue
It sometimes looked as if he was prowling, man, as the coffin disappeared from us, I helping others, and by helping others help
which enhanced the effect. Actually he thought of the farewell words of Horatio to herself to happiness.

SUBUD VOICE - September 2004 15


EVENTS NEW CHAIR IN MUSIC BY SUBUD ARTISTS
Robert Millard ‘Piano Recital’ £11.00
SEPTEMBER CANADA Hamilton Camp ‘Mardi’s Bard’ £12.50
Mira’nda ‘So Bravely Human’ £12.50
2-7: Spirit in Endeavour—second Global Marius Kahan ‘Tomorrow’s Memories’ £10.00
Congratulations to Matthew Baerveldt
Enterprise Meeting in Vilnius, Lithuania. Isles Theatre Co ‘The Isles’ £10.00
and David Hitchcock in their new posi-
Go to: www.globalenterprisemeeting.com Hamish Barker ‘Natural Culture’ £10.00
tions as Canadian Chair and Vice-
Malarky ‘The Band that Plays at Night’ £10.00
chair.
3-6: Subud Musicians Retreat at Seven Lucas Hille ‘Lost and Found’ £10.00
Circles in California. Please check out Musica - ‘The SICA CD’ £10.00
At the Canada National Congress, Mat-
www.sevencirclesretreat.org The DJC Collection - 16 Track Sampler £5.00
thew retired as Canada's Committee
Councillor only to become the new NEW CDs:
11-14: Ibu Rahayu in Bangalore India
Chair! Later Matthew chose David as Yamba Yamba Orchestra - ‘Rainstorm’ £11.00
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