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Why don't you want to see traditional Catholic information?

What do you want to


see? Isn't traditional Catholicism essentially just Catholicism? I don't see what
else we should be striving for? Modernism?
To respond to your question, I created this mess of word soup. Consider these causally organized

notes for a future article I might write someday about why I don’t like traditionalism.

Part 1 Wir sind Ein Kirche

To start I’m going to use a definition of traditionalism summarized by this poem

What Catholics once were, we are. If we are wrong, then Catholics through the ages
have been wrong.
We are what you once were. We believe what you once believed.
We worship as you once worshipped. If we are wrong now, you were wrong then. If
you were right then, we are right now.
Robert DePiante
This is simply not true. The traditionalist way of proceeding is not a privileged path, or the true

path, or the way the Church must return to. Only Catholicism as a whole is the one true path to

salvation. To say this is to ignore what Christianity is about. It is not about the endless

maintaining of the past ways as John Paul II stated in Eccelsia Dei paragraph 4 tradition only

exists as a living thing coming from the Holy Spirit to the Church. Tradition is about right belief

and right praxis connected to our past but not in the way that ignores the present ability to change

and change dramatically as part 2 will now demonstrate.

Part 2 The Not So Old Time Religion

There is in traditionalism a significant drift towards what the old African slave spiritual “give me

that old time religion…It was good enough for Moses it is good enough for me” of course even a

brief knowledge of history will tell you the for example:


The mass underwent significant changes during Pope Georgy’s reign and during Pius V’s reign

equal to if not greater than 1970.

Neo-Scholastism/Manualist theology was only in vogue for 100 years from Arenis Prentis to the

Council and is just one way of doing theology and the creation of this intellectual monoculture

did such great harm a crisis is the time to open up creatively not create a bunker mentality which

dehumanized formation.

Fiddlebacks are just ugly admit it they are not even have a good tradition of use they came from

the laziness of priests who wanted to cut down of the heavy fabric they wore and they just look

ugly.

Verus Populum vs Ad Orientum Communion in the hand EOMC are issues that should be

debated not played out through petty political games as Bishop Marlino and Burke did in

Wisconsin. By forcing traditionalist priests onto communities that did not want them in an

apparent attempt to ‘get a traditionalist beachhead’.

Part 3 The Politics of Toxicity

The most pressing issue for me is the self-absolving of the past and present traditionalist of any

guilt. The following are examples of toxic politics I have witnessed

Blame the Stalinist homo commies’ seminarians for the sex abuse of children. Despite there

existing no evidence

Blaming the folk devil such as Bishop Bugani, Paul VI, John XXIII, Ost Poltik, This or that

bishop etc.
Franco/Salazar crowd did nothing wrong which seems to be very popular amongst the trad crowd

now and in the past.

The Church has nothing to apologize for the Crusades or the inquisition in sure defiance of fact

and evidence.

The love religious affair with Trump has to stop. Ok Trump not Constantine he’s just found a

way to exploit the current political climate for power like every other politician. He’s from a

objective stand point doing some good anti-abortion policies but come on. I’ll leave this point at

that

The past political order of Altar and throne directly lead us to the abuses detailed in many reports

in Ireland and elsewhere. Christendom if it was ever truly a living idea is now dead it is time not

to relive the past but to create a new way forward.

Classical education is not the cornerstone. It’s all well and good but this is the STEM age

weather you like it or not. Scientific literacy is more important today than Latin and Greek

whose day as the cornerstone of education came more from the gentrification of the aristocracy

and the later middle classes then from preparing an educated populace.

Appendix 1

Revolutionary Paper Clips

This article sums up the TFP movement and gave me a laugh

http://www.nobility.org/2017/04/20/21st-century-knight-like/

The problems are quite obvious

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