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Mar 19, 2011 1:11am #13,001

Dishwasher |
Joined Feb 2011

Quoting emene
Myself, I like to enter big bold candles in their faces to the pip, so I often pay the price for this.

Hi emene,

Can you elaborate more on this comment? --- "Myself, I like to enter big bold candles in their faces to the pip, so I often
pay the price for this."

My trigger for going long at support/demand would be a high close doji, or higher close above a hammer or whatever... At
resistance/supply I would look for a low close doji or close below a tombstone doji hammer or whatever. I guess that
would be waiting for confirmation.

I would like to know how you enter in a "big bold candle", and what that means. If you have a chart of that, I would love
to see it. Much respect to you and the other traders in this thread. Straight up no bullshit traders here. I like that.

Mar 19, 2011 2:43am #13,002

Orbital

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Quoting Dishwasher
Hi emene,

Can you elaborate more on this comment? --- "Myself, I like to enter big bold candles in their faces to the pip, so I
often pay the price for this."

My trigger for going long at support/demand would be a high close doji, or higher close above a hammer or
whatever... At resistance/supply I would look for a low close doji or close below a tombstone doji hammer or
whatever. I guess that would be waiting for confirmation.

I would like to know how you enter in a "big bold candle", and what that means. If you have a chart of that, I would...

It basically means if i understand michael correctly and im pretty sure i do since our trading styles are similiar. Its that he
is taking a higher risk by not waiting for PA to confirm and taking the second bounce after a big engulfing candle into
either supply or demand. Ill show you a couple of pictures about this later.

He was basically responding to my question which was implying him taking a risk near a demand area because he was
shorting of his trendlines (something which michael quite frankly is very very good at), read through the dialog and look
at the pictures you will understand it, ill show you in a couple of mins or hours what michael meant by taking a PA trade
from an engulfing bar into demand or supply.

Edited at 4:19am #13,003

Orbital

Its that time of the week again. Analysis for EU, rest to follow, please take under consideration that i only scalp and rarely
enter longer trades, with this and last week being somewhat of exceptions due to the circumstances globally.

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EDIT:

For those of you who like harmonics and confluences:

Theres a lot of shit going on, which is why i signaled that blue zone to be so critical. Fib retracements/extensions, ABCD
Pattern lining up almost perfectly, supply zone and some other funky stuff. Don't care much for it but it is interessting to
note.

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Mar 19, 2011 7:02am #13,004

redsword11

Quoting redsword11
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........... geometry

jlako tech

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Mar 19, 2011 7:08am #13,005

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redsword11

Quoting redsword11
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THE LEFT

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....... THE RIGHT

its taken out the low, but just under the low of the previous rally is a zone, this is a trap - further PA will tell, but l would
say, dx spikes the zone, rejection and off north. It might visit the source of the inverting bull ( refer to left chart ) and

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then off. But we don't guess as PA traders, we simply take it as it develops. Just to be mindfold of this level as its got
good structure and clean PA from the past

........ and it does appear you traders are playing with the market rather than the market playing with you. We will be
legendary in FF

RED ARMY

Mar 19, 2011 8:09am #13,006

redsword11

Quoting dragan53
price is not evrything~!

wasn't going to comment but .......

SUCH A FCUKING PETTY REMARK

whats more important is the content of the thread, many traders have improved their trading dramatically due to this
method - ask them ........

and if you don't like the title - fcuk off

Mar 19, 2011 8:41am #13,007

kaspopsicle |
Membership Revoked

Quoting redsword11
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THE LEFT

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....... THE RIGHT

its taken out the low, but just under the low of the previous rally is a zone, this is a trap - further PA will tell, but l
would say, dx spikes the zone, rejection and off north. It might visit the source of the inverting bull ( refer to left
chart ) and then off. But we don't guess as PA traders, we simply take it as it develops. Just to be mindfold of this
level as its got good structure and clean PA from the past

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........ and it does appear you traders are...

This thread is beautiful...i'd like to join up....such a novice i'll just carry on reading for now.
Thank you....to all of you. .

All systems of divination, like music itself,work through patterns.

Mar 19, 2011 8:56am #13,008

Hawki trader |
Joined Mar 2010

Agree with Kas above,this is the only thread worth reading on FF...

I keep re-reading & learning a bit more each time, hopefully post something useful one day...
hawki

Mar 19, 2011 9:43am #13,009

redsword11

...........right, lets put an end to whats compression ( otherwise known as a finishing triangle ) and what not compression.
Noticed some confusing comments and charts lately with regards to compression. So, below is an entry from the past to
clearly identify the PA

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firstly, we look left and notice a supply zone - supply zone identifed simply by noticing prices fell hard from there before,
therefore sellers exceed buyers. Now we wait for PRICE ARRIVAL

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.......... ok, now price arrival to zone. But notice the manner in which it approaches - its spiking south WHILST RISING
.......... what does this mean?

Rising to find supply, spiking south is doing several things @ the same time. Prices are finding small pockets of demand
and testing them to rise to supply. So, as its spiking south its also consuming those small pockets of demand therefore the
path south is begin cleared of demand @ the same time!

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PA watch and entry, ok now look @ the result. Notice how the bears that dropped through the compressed zone are large
and clean suggesting no demand or resistance, reason? - the demand was already consumed by the SPIKING SOUTH ON
APPROACH TO SUPPLY ZONE ............. this is why l have stated often - PRICES THINK AHEAD OF TIME, prices already
decided to turn because prices cleared the zone of demand by spiking south before they reached supply clearing the path
south for the bears........... so there it is

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another example - some of you have been confusing flags for compression. Why does a BULLFLAG DIP? Its dipping to
consume sellers @ a given level, once the sellers have been consumed, the flag is complete and prices can advance - no
mystery. Then prices leave the flag to advance, then once prices reached supply, the approach to the zone there was
compression, so l sold it

no mystery, nothing random whatsoever

Mar 19, 2011 9:59am #13,010

tjfxtrader |
Membership Revoked

Quoting Orbital
so you bought?

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EDIT: and im asking because its usually quite unclear from your charts where youre entering positions, did you
disable the charts to show your buying positions?

My trades are not placed with MT4.

Mar 19, 2011 10:13am #13,011

kaspopsicle |
Membership Revoked

Quoting redsword11
...........right, lets put an end to whats compression ( otherwise known as a finishing triangle )...

Red...i'm in love. Re-papering the walls as i speak.

All systems of divination, like music itself,work through patterns.

Mar 19, 2011 10:17am #13,012

budak baru

Quoting redsword11
...........right, lets put an end to whats compression ( otherwise known as a finishing triangle )...

bookmarked.take note guys

Mar 19, 2011 11:37am #13,013

FXSurfer

Quoting redsword11
Rising to find supply

dipping to consume sellers

Nice post(s)!

Great, practical descriptions of how to view and follow the markets as they trade along. Real-time. Not just useless
hindsight like most. Learning to read what the market is saying by the information that it's generating.

One damn nice thread out of a hundred shitty, worthless ones! Thanks!

Mar 19, 2011 12:06pm #13,014

redsword11

Quoting redsword11
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your view is also valid and so is this on 5min

ANY PAIR ANY TF - POLES AND FLAGS

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@ first sight the pole was south - it went south to demand zone. Then we get a flag rising from demand but it gathers
momentum and breaks the pole north ........... this is precisely the reason l trade flags - l took the eu flag instead of cable
when this happened

...... trading the flag, it often breaks the pole although my tgs are placed near the high of pole as you don't know its going
to break the pole until after the event, but here is an example of a common trap played by price

so, when what appears to be a flag, ie lower momentum than the pole and then the flag gathers momentum - there is a
trap in play and a momentum switch

Mar 19, 2011 1:51pm #13,015

redsword11

Quoting redsword11
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THE LEFT

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....... THE RIGHT

its taken out the low, but just under the low of the previous rally is a zone, this is a trap - further PA will tell, but l
would say, dx spikes the zone, rejection and off north. It might visit the source of the inverting bull ( refer to left
chart ) and then off. But we don't guess as PA traders, we simply take it as it develops. Just to be mindfold of this
level as its got good structure and clean PA from the past

........ and it does appear you traders are...

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...... price structure - instutional orderflow can be hidden on a chart

there a many other confluences that suggest a market swing this coming week

.......... we will take it as it develops

Mar 19, 2011 2:44pm #13,016

emene |
Commercial Member

Buy the breakout or be patient ?

The News : novice trap number 1


"Some traders actually never pay attention to the news as they figure that price will tell them all they need to know about
the next low risk setup." Haha, I know someone like that !

Hello.

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Mar 19, 2011 3:26pm #13,017

emene |
Commercial Member

The TL often acts like a magnet.

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Hello.

Mar 19, 2011 3:56pm #13,018

anthoniex

EURUSD - Weekly

Quoting emene
The TL often acts like a magnet.

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Mar 19, 2011 4:39pm #13,019

redsword11

Quoting anthoniex

EURUSD - Weekly

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Mar 19, 2011 8:07pm #13,020

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tjfxtrader |
Membership Revoked

Red:

You posted:

"Rising to find supply, spiking south is doing several things @ the same time. Prices are finding small pockets of demand
and testing them to rise to supply. So, as its spiking south its also consuming those small pockets of demand therefore
the path south is begin cleared of demand @ the same time!"

What does "testing them to rise to supply" mean? I understood everything else you posted.

Thank you.

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