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void ratio 共i.e., ⌬e / eo ⬍ 0.03兲. Cyclic laboratory testing provides a loading, regardless of the soil’s plasticity index 共PI兲. Soils that
viable means to evaluate the cyclic response of fine-grained soils meet these conditions also typically offer significant challenges
if sample disturbance effects are minimized. The authors contend for static design.
that field sampling and laboratory testing currently offer the most
reliable way to evaluate the liquefaction susceptibility, resistance,
and response of fine-grained soils. Soil Plasticity and Soil Behavior Index
In examining the data developed by Bray et al. 共2004兲, how-
ever, it is clear that fine-grained soils with low penetration resis- Although the authors found that the soil behavior index 共Ic兲 pro-
tances tend to be potentially liquefiable if they satisfy the authors’ posed by Robertson and Wride 共1998兲 was useful in discriminat-
proposed liquefaction susceptibility criteria. Figs. 1共a and b兲 and ing between different soil types preliminarily, it should be
Figs. 2共a and b兲 present the CPT tip penetration resistance 共qt in remembered that it provides merely an indication of soil type. As
MPa兲 and the uncorrected SPT blow counts 共N60兲 for Site F and recommended by Youd et al. 共2001兲, soil samples should be re-
Site A in Adapazari, respectively 共Bray et al. 2004兲. In terms of trieved to confirm its applicability on a site-specific basis. In Ada-
liquefaction, the critical layers at these sites 共depths of 1.5 to pazari, Ic was employed successfully to classify soil preliminarily
3.2 m at Site F and depths of 4.2 to 5.0 m at Site A兲 exhibit qt so that the companion boring and sampling program could focus
ⱕ 2.5 MPa and N60 ⱕ 6 blows/ 30 cm. Consistent ground condi- on retrieving soil from the potentially most critical layers. How-
tions were measured at other locations throughout the city of ever, Ic was not used to evaluate soil susceptibility to liquefaction,
Adapazari 共Bray et al. 2004兲. In the authors’ experience, shallow because it was not reliable. Instead, PI and wc / LL proved to be
共depth⬍ 10 m兲, normally consolidated to slightly overconsoli- the most reliable indices of liquefaction susceptibility.
dated, saturated fine-grained soils will typically have low penetra- Figs. 1共c–e兲 and Figs. 2共c–e兲 present Ic, PI, and wc / LL data for
tion resistance 共qt ⬍ 2 MPa兲 in combination with high values of Site F and Site A, respectively. The soils between depths of 1.6
water content to liquid limit ratio 共wc / LL兲. These soils should be and 5 m at Site F exhibit Ic ⬎ 2.6, but their PIs are typically
carefully studied for their ground failure potential under seismic smaller than 10 and wc / LL⬎ 0.85. At Site A, the soils up to a
Fig. 2. Site A profile: 共a兲 CPT tip resistance; 共b兲 SPT N60; 共c兲 soil behavior index; 共d兲 PI; and 共e兲 wc / LL 共data from Sancio 2003兲
depth of 6.7 m below ground surface have Ic ⬎ 2.6, but their PIs these fine-grained soils were observed. After extensive sampling
are typically between 10 and 15, and wc / LL⬎ 0.85. Four-story and testing, the problem soils were found to generally have PI
buildings at both sites were affected by ground failure as a result ⬍ 12 and wc / LL⬎ 0.85.
of the 1999 Kocaeli 共Mw = 7.5兲 earthquake. Although these values Sites with shallow cohesive soil deposits of sufficient strength
of Ic would have rendered the soil nonsusceptible to liquefaction in Adapazari did not undergo extensive ground failure 共Sancio
according to Robertson and Wride 共1998兲, the PI and wc / LL data et al. 2002兲. However, this is not always the case, and there are
classify the soil as liquefiable according to the criteria proposed cases of weak, saturated cohesive soils that undergo significant
by the authors. Moreover, Ic ⬎ 2.6 at Site F identifies soils with ground deformation as a result of earthquake shaking that could
PI⬍ 10 共Figs. 1共c and d兲兲, whereas Ic ⬎ 2.6 at Site A identifies lead to unsatisfactory building performance. The Martin and
soils with PI⬎ 10 共Figs. 2共c and d兲兲. The difference between the Olgun 共2006兲 paper identifies one case, but there are many other
PI values at Site F and Site A for similar values of Ic highlights cases described in the literature 共e.g., Boulanger et al. 1998;
the importance of incorporating sampling within site investigation Holzer et al. 1999兲. The authors’ proposed liquefaction suscepti-
programs. bility criteria should be used to identify fine-grained soils that
As noted in the paper, evidence of liquefaction was also ob- may undergo a seismic response with characteristics that are simi-
served in Potrero Canyon, California, after the 1994 Northridge lar in many 共but not in all兲 ways to that exhibited by liquefiable
共Mw = 6.7兲 earthquake. Some field and laboratory testing by Ben- clean sands. It should not be used to eliminate from engineering
nett et al. 共1998兲, which is shown in Fig. 3, provides data that consideration soils that are screened by their criteria to not be
again indicates that Ic ⬎ 2.6 should not be used as a strict criterion susceptible to the liquefaction phenomenon.
to evaluate a soil’s liquefaction susceptibility. Over depths from 4
to 5 m, for example, the soil’s PI⬍ 10 and wc / LL⬎ 0.85 even
though its measured Ic values are typically greater than 2.6. Fines Content
The authors emphatically agree with the Youd et al. 共2001兲
recommendation that “. . . all soils with an Ic of 2.4 or greater The second discussion emphasizes the importance of the amount
should be sampled and tested to confirm the soil type and to test of fines in a soil in terms of its cyclic response. The authors agree
the liquefiability with other criteria.” The authors recommend that that the amount of fines is an important consideration. However,
liquefaction susceptibility be evaluated using their proposed PI the soils that the authors tested were fine-grained soils that had
and wc / LL criteria. nearly or in most cases had more than 50% fines. In all cases, the
soil’s fines content was greater than its threshold fines content as
defined by Thevanayagam et al. 共2002兲. Hence the authors’ data
Seismic Response of Clayey Soils do not allow them to comment on the effects of fines for soils
with fines contents that are below and above the threshold fines
The discusser correctly notes that clayey soils that do not satisfy content. For the soils tested, the soil’s interfine void ratio would
the proposed liquefaction susceptibility criteria are not “immune best describe the state of the soil. However, the soils tested con-
to seismic strength and stiffness losses.” The authors stated in the sistently contained about 10 to 30% sand-sized particles, so that
conclusions of the paper that “there may be cases where sensitive global void ratio, or water content, was found to be an adequate
soils with PI⬎ 18 undergo severe strength loss as a result of descriptor of the state of the saturated soils, which also had con-
earthquake-induced straining, so the proposed criteria should be sistent mineralogy.
applied with engineering judgment.” Liquefaction of fine-grained The discussers’ cyclic triaxial test results, which are described
soils as defined by cyclic mobility with limited strain potential for in more detail in Xenaki and Athanasopoulos 共2003兲, indicate that
the shallow soils in Adapazari contributed significantly to ground the amount of fines is important. One way that fines content is
failure and poor building performance during the 1999 Kocaeli important for the two tests shown in their discussion is that vastly
earthquake 共Bray et al. 2004兲. At some sites, sediment ejecta of differing amounts of fines lead to significantly different “effec-